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User: ". T James"
Date: 07 Jun 2006 11:20:33 PM
Object: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
In article <HomerHomer-0806061017440001@192.168.0.2>,
says...


<SNIP> Pull the plug on the CERM

website - delete everything and do it now.

http://www.cerm.info/faith.htm
STATEMENT OF FAITH
By John Wolf
"I believe the only true basis of Christian fellowship is
Christ's Agape love, which is greater than any differences I
possess and without which I have no right to claim myself Christians[sic].
"I believe worship of God should be intelligent. Therefore, I
value services with a great emphasis upon the teaching of the
Word of God so that He might instruct me how He should be worshipped.
"I believe worship of God should be fruitful. Therefore, I look for His
love in my live[sic] as the supreme manifestation that I have truly been
worshipping Him.
[But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such
there is no law. Gal 5:22-23]
"I believe in all the basic doctrines of historic Christianity. [?]
"I believe in the inherency of Scripture, that the Bible, Old and New
Testaments are the inspired, infallible Word of God. I believe that the
NASB is the most accurate English translation from the original manuscripts,
and I believe that the NIV is the most powerful dynamic equalivence
translation. But I will read just about any translation except the TNIV,
and Message which I believe to be the most corrupt of the English texts.
"I believe that God is eternally existent in three distinct persons: Father,
Son and Holy Spirit.
"I believe that God is the personal, transcendent, and sovereign Creator of
all things.
"I believe that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully human, that He was born
of a virgin, lived a sinless life, provided for the atonement of our sins by
His substitutionary death on the cross, was bodily raised from the dead,
ascended back to the right hand of the Father, and ever lives to make
intercession for me.
"I believe in the personal, visible, and pre-millennial second coming of
Jesus Christ to the earth. He will return with His saints and set up a
kingdom of which there will be no end. After Jesus ascended to Heaven,
He poured out His Holy Spirit on the believers in Jerusalem, enabling
them to fulfill His command to preach the Gospel to the entire world,
an obligation shared by all believers today.
"I believe in total depravity that all people are, by nature, separated
from God and responsible for their own sin, but that salvation, redemption,
and forgiveness are freely offered to all by the grace of our Lord Jesus
Christ. When a person repents of sin and accepts Jesus Christ as personal
Savior and Lord, trusting Him to save, that person is immediately born again
and sealed by the Holy Spirit, all his/her sins are forgiven, and that person
becomes a child of God, destined to spend eternity with the Lord.
I believe that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit mentioned in the Scriptures
(Mark 16) are not valid for today. However I do believe that the other
non-sign gifts are valid for today. I as a believer do not covet the best
gifts, but seek to exercise them in love that the whole Body of Christ might
be edified. I believe that love is more important than the other gifts, and
without this love all exercise of spiritual gifts is worthless."
--
..
"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."
2 Timothy 3:12
.

User: "Zephyros"

Title: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 07 Jun 2006 11:16:33 PM
A missionary was in Africa when a lion pounced on him. He played dead
until the lion got off him and then he knelt down to pray.
While he was praying, the lion got down on his knees and closed his eyes.
The missionary could see the lion's lips moving, and he said, "Hooray!
I've converted the lion!"
The lion said, "Not so fast. I'm saying grace."
++++++++++++++++++++
China
Lions kill teen reveler
An 18-year old student celebrating the end of his school exams was
attacked and killed by three lions in a zoological park in northeastern
Heilongjiang Province, state press said yesterday. The student was one of
10 young men who climbed over the 2m fence surrounding the lion compound
at the Northern Forestry Zoological Park near the provincial capital of
Harbin on Tuesday, the Beijing News said. The students, who had been
drinking following their exams, illegally entered the zoo and climbed over
the fence despite signs warning of the danger, the report said.
=======
Lion kills man who invoked name of God
Associated Press
Jun. 5, 2006 10:27 AM
KIEV, Ukraine - A lion killed a man who climbed into its enclosure at the
Kiev zoo, police said Monday.
The lion attacked the 45-year-old Ukrainian late Sunday after he used a
rope to climb down into an enclosure with four lions, said police
spokesman Volodymyr Polishchuk.
Ukrainian TV channel NTN broadcast interviews with witnesses who said the
man told them that he believed God would not allow the lions to hurt him.
Polishchuk said the man, who was not identified, was acting aggressively
and one of the lions seized him by the throat. The man died at the scene.
Zoo officials could not immediately be reached for comment.
==========================
.

User: "Zephyros"

Title: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 08 Jun 2006 02:58:47 AM
Discussing theology on a CERM/ Bible John Wolf thread merely disguises the
fact that CERM is a fraud - a front for an immature person with an
apparent wish to mistreat women, vilify homosexuals and smack little girls
etc
Basta as the Italians say
ENOUGH!
In article <44879781_1@newspeer2.tds.net>, . (T James) wrote:

In article <HomerHomer-0806061017440001@192.168.0.2>,

HomerHomer@OnTheRanger.com says...


<SNIP> Pull the plug on the CERM

website - delete everything and do it now.


http://www.cerm.info/faith.htm

STATEMENT OF FAITH
By John Wolf

"I believe the only true basis of Christian fellowship is
Christ's Agape love, which is greater than any differences I
possess and without which I have no right to claim myself Christians[sic].

"I believe worship of God should be intelligent. Therefore, I
value services with a great emphasis upon the teaching of the
Word of God so that He might instruct me how He should be worshipped.

"I believe worship of God should be fruitful. Therefore, I look for His
love in my live[sic] as the supreme manifestation that I have truly been
worshipping Him.

[But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such
there is no law. Gal 5:22-23]

"I believe in all the basic doctrines of historic Christianity. [?]

"I believe in the inherency of Scripture, that the Bible, Old and New
Testaments are the inspired, infallible Word of God. I believe that the
NASB is the most accurate English translation from the original manuscripts,
and I believe that the NIV is the most powerful dynamic equalivence
translation. But I will read just about any translation except the TNIV,
and Message which I believe to be the most corrupt of the English texts.

"I believe that God is eternally existent in three distinct persons: Father,
Son and Holy Spirit.

"I believe that God is the personal, transcendent, and sovereign Creator of
all things.

"I believe that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully human, that He was born
of a virgin, lived a sinless life, provided for the atonement of our sins by
His substitutionary death on the cross, was bodily raised from the dead,
ascended back to the right hand of the Father, and ever lives to make
intercession for me.

"I believe in the personal, visible, and pre-millennial second coming of
Jesus Christ to the earth. He will return with His saints and set up a
kingdom of which there will be no end. After Jesus ascended to Heaven,
He poured out His Holy Spirit on the believers in Jerusalem, enabling
them to fulfill His command to preach the Gospel to the entire world,
an obligation shared by all believers today.

"I believe in total depravity that all people are, by nature, separated
from God and responsible for their own sin, but that salvation, redemption,
and forgiveness are freely offered to all by the grace of our Lord Jesus
Christ. When a person repents of sin and accepts Jesus Christ as personal
Savior and Lord, trusting Him to save, that person is immediately born again
and sealed by the Holy Spirit, all his/her sins are forgiven, and that person
becomes a child of God, destined to spend eternity with the Lord.

I believe that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit mentioned in the Scriptures
(Mark 16) are not valid for today. However I do believe that the other
non-sign gifts are valid for today. I as a believer do not covet the best
gifts, but seek to exercise them in love that the whole Body of Christ might
be edified. I believe that love is more important than the other gifts, and
without this love all exercise of spiritual gifts is worthless."


--
.
"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."
2 Timothy 3:12

.
User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 09 Jun 2006 08:59:33 AM
"Zephyros" <HomerHomer@OnTheRanger.com> wrote in message
news:HomerHomer-0806061759020001@192.168.0.2...

In article <44879781_1@newspeer2.tds.net>, . (T James) wrote:

In article <HomerHomer-0806061017440001@192.168.0.2>,

HomerHomer@OnTheRanger.com says...

http://www.cerm.info/faith.htm

STATEMENT OF FAITH
By John Wolf

"I believe the only true basis of Christian fellowship is
Christ's Agape love, which is greater than any differences I
possess and without which I have no right to claim myself
Christians[sic].
"I believe worship of God should be intelligent. Therefore, I
value services with a great emphasis upon the teaching of the
Word of God so that He might instruct me how He should be worshipped.
"I believe worship of God should be fruitful. Therefore, I look for His
love in my live[sic] as the supreme manifestation that I have truly been
worshipping Him.
[But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such
there is no law. Gal 5:22-23]
"I believe in all the basic doctrines of historic Christianity. [?]
"I believe in the inherency of Scripture, that the Bible, Old and New
Testaments are the inspired, infallible Word of God. I believe that the
NASB is the most accurate English translation from the original
manuscripts,
and I believe that the NIV is the most powerful dynamic equalivence
translation. But I will read just about any translation except the TNIV,
and Message which I believe to be the most corrupt of the English texts.
"I believe that God is eternally existent in three distinct persons:
Father,
Son and Holy Spirit.
"I believe that God is the personal, transcendent, and sovereign Creator
of
all things.
"I believe that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully human, that He was
born
of a virgin, lived a sinless life, provided for the atonement of our sins
by
His substitutionary death on the cross, was bodily raised from the dead,
ascended back to the right hand of the Father, and ever lives to make
intercession for me.
"I believe in the personal, visible, and pre-millennial second coming of
Jesus Christ to the earth. He will return with His saints and set up a
kingdom of which there will be no end. After Jesus ascended to Heaven,
He poured out His Holy Spirit on the believers in Jerusalem, enabling
them to fulfill His command to preach the Gospel to the entire world,
an obligation shared by all believers today.
"I believe in total depravity that all people are, by nature, separated
from God and responsible for their own sin, but that salvation,
redemption,
and forgiveness are freely offered to all by the grace of our Lord Jesus
Christ. When a person repents of sin and accepts Jesus Christ as personal
Savior and Lord, trusting Him to save, that person is immediately born
again
and sealed by the Holy Spirit, all his/her sins are forgiven, and that
person
becomes a child of God, destined to spend eternity with the Lord.
I believe that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit mentioned in the
Scriptures
(Mark 16) are not valid for today. However I do believe that the other
non-sign gifts are valid for today. I as a believer do not covet the best
gifts, but seek to exercise them in love that the whole Body of Christ
might
be edified. I believe that love is more important than the other gifts,
and
without this love all exercise of spiritual gifts is worthless."
"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer
persecution."
2 Timothy 3:12


Discussing theology on a CERM/ Bible John Wolf thread merely disguises the
fact that CERM is a fraud - a front for an immature person with an
apparent wish to mistreat women, vilify homosexuals and smack little girls
etc

You have Satan's minions howling in protest, John!! Bravo!! Well done!!
We Bible-believing Christian in our pristine and hallowed Christian NGs
salute you. Keep up the good work and may God bless you abundantly!!!
.
User: "Zephyros"

Title: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 10 Jun 2006 02:07:41 AM
In article <25fed$448a2c11$d1d89aaa$1956@PRIMUS.CA>, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.org> wrote:


You have Satan's minions howling in protest, John!! Bravo!! Well done!!
We Bible-believing Christian in our pristine and hallowed Christian NGs
salute you. Keep up the good work and may God bless you abundantly!!!

You like spanking little girls too perhaps
Do all Christians like spanking little girls
Chorale Text
German:
Nun danket alle Gott
mit Herzen, Mund und Händen,
der grosse Dinge tut
an uns und allen Enden;
der uns von Mutterleib und Kindesbeinen an
unzählig viel zugut,
und noch jetzund getan!
--Martin Rinkert, 1636
English GERM Text
Now spank we all dear God
With hands and Christian brothers
A wondrous think to do
To little girls and others
We spank the little boys
And bless them on their way
And then we seek relief
With five friends every day
.
User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 11 Jun 2006 06:23:44 AM
"Zephyros" <HomerHomer@OnTheRanger.com> wrote in message
news:HomerHomer-1006061707570001@192.168.0.3...

In article <25fed$448a2c11$d1d89aaa$1956@PRIMUS.CA>, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.org> wrote:


You have Satan's minions howling in protest, John!! Bravo!! Well
done!!
We Bible-believing Christian in our pristine and hallowed Christian NGs
salute you. Keep up the good work and may God bless you abundantly!!!


You like spanking little girls too perhaps
Do all Christians like spanking little girls
Chorale Text
German:
Nun danket alle Gott
mit Herzen, Mund und Händen,
der grosse Dinge tut
an uns und allen Enden;
der uns von Mutterleib und Kindesbeinen an
unzählig viel zugut,
und noch jetzund getan!
--Martin Rinkert, 1636

English GERM Text
Now spank we all dear God
With hands and Christian brothers
A wondrous think to do
To little girls and others
We spank the little boys
And bless them on their way
And then we seek relief
With five friends every day

So you like spoofing? Your post is non sequitur and your English version
of the German hymn above is not a translation.
Keep it up just a little longer and even the most slow-witted Christians
here will recognise a clown badly in need of Christ. I think you are looking
for someone to proselytize you.
.
User: "Zephyros"

Title: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 11 Jun 2006 11:13:09 PM
In article <3a88f$448c606f$d1d894f2$31132@PRIMUS.CA>, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.org> wrote:

"Zephyros" <HomerHomer@OnTheRanger.com> wrote in message
news:HomerHomer-1006061707570001@192.168.0.3...

In article <25fed$448a2c11$d1d89aaa$1956@PRIMUS.CA>, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.org> wrote:


You have Satan's minions howling in protest, John!! Bravo!! Well
done!!
We Bible-believing Christian in our pristine and hallowed Christian NGs
salute you. Keep up the good work and may God bless you abundantly!!!


You like spanking little girls too perhaps
Do all Christians like spanking little girls
Chorale Text
German:
Nun danket alle Gott
mit Herzen, Mund und Händen,
der grosse Dinge tut
an uns und allen Enden;
der uns von Mutterleib und Kindesbeinen an
unzählig viel zugut,
und noch jetzund getan!
--Martin Rinkert, 1636

English GERM Text
Now spank we all dear God
With hands and Christian brothers
A wondrous think to do
To little girls and others
We spank the little boys
And bless them on their way
And then we seek relief
With five friends every day

So you like spoofing? Your post is non sequitur and your English version
of the German hymn above is not a translation.
Keep it up just a little longer and even the most slow-witted Christians
here will recognise a clown badly in need of Christ. I think you are looking
for someone to proselytize you.

I'm looking to you idiots to sort yourselves out!!!!!!!
You are hailing a would be schoolgirl bottom spanker as a Christian
It shlould not have to be just me saying NO - never ever!
nuff said
.
User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 12 Jun 2006 07:33:01 AM
"Zephyros" <HomerHomer@OnTheRanger.com> wrote in message
news:HomerHomer-1206061413250001@192.168.0.3...

In article <3a88f$448c606f$d1d894f2$31132@PRIMUS.CA>, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.org> wrote:

"Zephyros" <HomerHomer@OnTheRanger.com> wrote in message
news:HomerHomer-1006061707570001@192.168.0.3...

In article <25fed$448a2c11$d1d89aaa$1956@PRIMUS.CA>, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.org> wrote:


You have Satan's minions howling in protest, John!! Bravo!! Well
done!!
We Bible-believing Christian in our pristine and hallowed Christian
NGs
salute you. Keep up the good work and may God bless you abundantly!!!


You like spanking little girls too perhaps
Do all Christians like spanking little girls
Chorale Text
German:
Nun danket alle Gott
mit Herzen, Mund und Händen,
der grosse Dinge tut
an uns und allen Enden;
der uns von Mutterleib und Kindesbeinen an
unzählig viel zugut,
und noch jetzund getan!
--Martin Rinkert, 1636

English GERM Text
Now spank we all dear God
With hands and Christian brothers
A wondrous think to do
To little girls and others
We spank the little boys
And bless them on their way
And then we seek relief
With five friends every day

So you like spoofing? Your post is non sequitur and your English
version
of the German hymn above is not a translation.
Keep it up just a little longer and even the most slow-witted
Christians
here will recognise a clown badly in need of Christ. I think you are
looking
for someone to proselytize you.


I'm looking to you idiots to sort yourselves out!!!!!!!
You are hailing a would be schoolgirl bottom spanker as a Christian
It shlould not have to be just me saying NO - never ever!
nuff said

"You idiots"? Are you a naughty school girl in need of spanking by any
chance, and who is keen on telling us, that she is NOT an idiot? Tell us, in
whose opinion are you NOT an idiot, nor in need of a good spanking? Let me
guess, I think it's just your very own personal and private opinions. Isn't
that so?
Which btw tells us, you need someone to proselytize you to meet Christ
as your Lord and Saviour. For once you have met Christ you will need no
longer compare yourself to "idiots". You will join us instead, proud to be a
MOROS DIA CHRISTON.
.






User: "Aaron"

Title: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 08 Jun 2006 02:29:02 AM
On 7 Jun 2006 22:20:33 CST, . (T James) wrote:

In article <HomerHomer-0806061017440001@192.168.0.2>,

says...


<SNIP> Pull the plug on the CERM

website - delete everything and do it now.

My new news server does not get John Wolf's postings.
They are usually anti-biblical self promotion anyways.
I had thiough he had drifted to a new scam like "buying houses for
cash" (a dishionest scam that frequently leave victims homeless and in
debt for the house that they "sold" to the con-man which he bought
with the money from their new mortgage.) But I guess that would be
too much like work when John can just beg for donations for spreading
false doctrines.
***SNIP***
.
User: "Zephyros"

Title: Re: PING BIBLE JOHN WOLF _ CERM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 08 Jun 2006 03:00:48 AM
In article <a4kf82hgbhamjij34rfi50noh5pkim4dej@4ax.com>, Aaron
<anon@home.net> wrote:

On 7 Jun 2006 22:20:33 CST, . (T James) wrote:

In article <HomerHomer-0806061017440001@192.168.0.2>,

HomerHomer@OnTheRanger.com says...


<SNIP> Pull the plug on the CERM

website - delete everything and do it now.


My new news server does not get John Wolf's postings.
They are usually anti-biblical self promotion anyways.
I had thiough he had drifted to a new scam like "buying houses for
cash" (a dishionest scam that frequently leave victims homeless and in
debt for the house that they "sold" to the con-man which he bought
with the money from their new mortgage.) But I guess that would be
too much like work when John can just beg for donations for spreading
false doctrines.

***SNIP***

Exactly
This is a matter true Christians can define themselves as such by dealing
with it
And with the JW matters
.



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