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Religions > Bible |
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"Pastor Dave" |
| Date: |
31 Jul 2007 10:56:44 PM |
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Re: PING: JUDE - Words |
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:02:38 -0500, "Jude_*_Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
"Žandy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:10:30 -0400,
in article Gunny Freedom wrote:
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
You are a troll! And the first thing you did was jump on
me again, out of the blue, in your very first post to me
after popping up in the group again! Now who's hating
whom, Jude?! Who is the biased bigot here?
You don't seem to understand...
Bias and bigotry is OKAY, so long as it's "anti-fundie"
any other kind, of course, is evil. {:-)
Do they think their hypocrisy is not evident?
THAT is the PREMIER statemetn of hypocrisy.
You call me in a day or so ago "toilet mouth
JA" and "troll" and you were talking to DAVE
who ranks the HIGHEST of a toiletry nasty speak!
You are lying on all counts, once again Jude.
And you prove your hypocrisy, by dodging the post
that started this thread, which shows your lying
hypocrisy! Why didn't either of you respond?
**************************************************
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:58:34 -0500, "Jude_*_Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
"Žandy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jj1sa31cmchg73hjegor843sutra55dsgr@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:35:59 -0400,
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
As I have told you, I do not recall using that "c" word.
We have been over this. I have been impersonated
before and it doesn't even seem like my writing style.
I have looked at the messages that you claimed were
proof and I wasn't the only one who didn't think it was
me, Jude and you know that. I even offered an apology,
"just in case" it was me. But you're not going to care
about that. You are only interested in spreading hate
toward me.
Not that I support the toilet mouthed troll JA, but things
like this are what makes you appear dishonest and
unbelievable. That you try to blame your actions on an
impersonator, then pretend like your "if" I did anything
wrong statement amounts to an apology or you accepting
responsibility, is a deceitful copout.
Aren't you sweet? I use the word *****. Dave and Bada
have used much worst and been much more hateful. Sorry
that you have shown you're incapable of good and righteous
judgment of others.
Wouldn't "have used" (past tense) be the key phrase here,
when you point your finger at me?
If YOU were using righteous judgment, then you would
know that someone else using worse language, does not
excuse your bad language! You're like a little child whining!
And why would I rely on your claim of who used worse?
Especially when you keep bringing up the same "C" word
issue, as if nothing had ever been said about it, when you
know that I said I do not believe it was me and that I do
believe that I was impersonated! You intentionally leave
that out and act as if you proved it was me, even though
you know that I have been impersonated before, especially
since YOU are one of those who impersonated me and
used foul language, to make it appear as if it were me!
You are a troll! And the first thing you did was jump on
me again, out of the blue, in your very first post to me
after popping up in the group again! Now who's hating
whom, Jude?! Who is the biased bigot here?
Randy also lied, since he's one of the ones who caught people
impersonating me. Yet when he has his own little war going
on against me, then, all of the sudden, no one could have
impersonated me and I'm lying for saying someone did.
Gee, how convenient for his little war that he's having all
by himself against me!
Of course, you won't confess to my having been impersonated
either Jude, because you're one of the one's Randy caught
impersonating me. I guess this makes you both complicit
in a lie together. (:
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
****************************************************
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.
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| User: "Žandy" |
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| Title: Re: PING: JUDE - Words |
01 Aug 2007 12:26:08 AM |
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:56:44 -0400,
in article <9310b39ot4ae36lnarci527q54d29ekc36@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Randy also lied, since he's one of the ones who caught people
impersonating me.
You have yet to quote this, and I remember no such thing.
Yet when he has his own little war going
on against me, then, all of the sudden, no one could have
impersonated me and I'm lying for saying someone did.
Gee, how convenient for his little war that he's having all
by himself against me!
I don't ever remember you having someone impersonating you.
Your name is on the posts. Your exact outdated version of
Agent is the news reader. Your news server is the source of
the post. You did not dispute having written the posts, until
someone called you on it. On the other side, we have you
telling us you don't remember posting the articles, and
claiming someone impersonated you, which I don't ever remember
anyone doing, and for which you have not as of yet produced a
quote.
Of course, you won't confess to my having been impersonated
either Jude, because you're one of the one's Randy caught
impersonating me. I guess this makes you both complicit
in a lie together. (:
Why don't you produce a quote that demonstrates what you are
claiming?
On the other hand, I don't understand why you don't have Jude
in your kill-file. I seldom fail to regret reading anything
he writes, and he almost always comes across like a juvenile.
Entertaining and dignifying his posts with a response is
usually a mistake.
Š2007 www.pulpitfire.net www.pulpitfire.org www.pulpitfire.com
--
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
Join the Glenn-free media-rich forum: www.pulpitfire.net/news
or http://groups.google.com/group/Pulpitfire
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| User: "Jude + Alexander cajun@the bayou.LA" |
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| Title: Re: PING: JUDE - Words |
01 Aug 2007 06:14:45 PM |
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"Žandy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:j060b3t22ublblkbfk6mt5pjg99vlpsi9c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:56:44 -0400,
in article <9310b39ot4ae36lnarci527q54d29ekc36@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Randy also lied, since he's one of the ones who caught people
impersonating me.
Dave, YOU said that Randy caught ME impersonating you. THAT is a lie. I've
neverly secretively tried or impersonated you.
You have yet to quote this, and I remember no such thing.
Yet when he has his own little war going
on against me, then, all of the sudden, no one could have
impersonated me and I'm lying for saying someone did.
Gee, how convenient for his little war that he's having all
by himself against me!
I don't ever remember you having someone impersonating you.
Your name is on the posts. Your exact outdated version of
Agent is the news reader. Your news server is the source of
the post. You did not dispute having written the posts, until
someone called you on it. On the other side, we have you
telling us you don't remember posting the articles, and
claiming someone impersonated you, which I don't ever remember
anyone doing, and for which you have not as of yet produced a
quote.
Of course, you won't confess to my having been impersonated
either Jude, because you're one of the one's Randy caught
impersonating me. I guess this makes you both complicit
in a lie together. (:
This is a lie. Let Randy say that he did such a thing. It's absolutely
impossible.
Why don't you produce a quote that demonstrates what you are
claiming?
On the other hand, I don't understand why you don't have Jude
in your kill-file. I seldom fail to regret reading anything
he writes, and he almost always comes across like a juvenile.
Entertaining and dignifying his posts with a response is
usually a mistake.
Why don't you kill file Glenn and give him some peace also?
Š2007 www.pulpitfire.net www.pulpitfire.org www.pulpitfire.com
--
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. ?2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
Join the Glenn-free media-rich forum: www.pulpitfire.net/news
or http://groups.google.com/group/Pulpitfire
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: PING: JUDE - YOUR IMPERSONATOR CONFESSION |
01 Aug 2007 07:00:48 PM |
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:14:45 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
I am not going to debate this. As I said, I am done with you.
But I just happened to run across this, while looking for a
quote that I provided for Randy and thought I would post it.
This proves that you know very well that you did impersonate
me and others as well.
"Žandy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:j060b3t22ublblkbfk6mt5pjg99vlpsi9c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:56:44 -0400,
in article <9310b39ot4ae36lnarci527q54d29ekc36@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Randy also lied, since he's one of the ones who caught people
impersonating me.
Dave, YOU said that Randy caught ME impersonating you.
THAT is a lie. I've neverly secretively tried or impersonated you.
I just love the way you try to throw the word "secretly"
in there. :)
You did impersonate both Vera and I. And you admitted
to it. You just, by your own admission, did a bad job at it.
The following are your words...
JUDE:
**********************************************
I, in response to somebody else, pretended to be you
and Vera (a long time ago) and when I did THAT I
did it was an OBVIOUS joke with NO pretense to hide
my true identity.
**********************************************
The truth is, you did pretend to be me and you did not
sign your own name to the posts, so to claim that you
made no pretense to hide your identity, is ridiculous!
And whether you wish to call it a joke or not, the point is,
that you had denied doing it at all. And now, here you are,
claiming that you never "seriously" did it. But the fact is,
that no, it was not "an obvious joke". You started saying
that afterward, to try to cover for yourself.
The truth is, that your remarks, while pretending to be me,
were very harmful and weren't funny at all. And anyone
who thinks they were funny, has a seriously dark heart!
You proved that I have been impersonated and you did
use foul language in those posts in which you pretended
to be me and the fact is, that while you may not have
done a very good job of hiding your trail when you chose
to impersonate me, you did try to. I know this, since
I know you were looking for help to do a better job.
You didn't think I knew about that, huh? And you can
claim it was a joke all you want and that you never tried
to hide it, but the reality is, that you kept going with it
and you did not tell people it was you while you were
doing it.
And the bottom line is, that for those who do not know
how to check these things out, what they see, is what
looks like a message from me, with you as the actual
writer, saying things that I would not say and even
saying things like I'm not really a believer, etc.. I didn't
forget Jude. So you and Randy can deny your roles all
you want. The bottom line is, that you both did do exactly
what I said you both did. And thank you for admitting
your role in it.
Thanks for proving that I did not lie about what you did
and that you did lie about it.
And you can also deny that I was impersonated by someone
very well, right down to the headers if you want to, but
the quote of your words that I provided above, is from
a message in which you were discussing that very thing
with Feather. Of course, you slammed me some more,
but the point is, that you knew it happened and did
acknowledge that it was happening to me!
Here is the entire post, which was from you. And let's note
Jude, aside from your lies about me, since for example,
it was Sharon attacking me all along, just like you do,
that you did say that there was more than one doing it
and let us note that it wasn't so easy to tell that it was
an imposter and that it was noted that even the headers
matched mine.
So I find it interesting that you and Randy now make
all of these claims about me being a liar when I say
I was impersonated at various times and yet, here
you are, admitting that it happened.
And let us note one thing... No one knew who it was
at the point in time that you wrote the message below,
which shows that they did do a very good job of
forging the headers!
And contrary to Randy's claim, which he knows very well
is a lie, it is not difficult to match the reader version, nor
the headers, nor the path the message takes, etc., if you
know what you're doing. And contrary to Randy trying
to pretend that the same time zone means I'm not being
impersonated, that is a very easy thing to forge and isn't
even necessary, if the impersonator is already in the
same time zone!
Anyway, here's your message Jude...
JUDE:
*****************************************************
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:42:29 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Feather Forestwalker <feat...@NOSPAM.net>
pontificated:
HeLovesYou wrote:
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:45:22 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "JPF" <f8thn...@nospam.net> pontificated:
Excuse this interruption......but...
There have been some posts lately under Pastor Dave's
name but they are not his. Subject Apology to Griz.....
some interesting recipes. Found the same posts in CC
under the name of Magnus. They are cross posted all
over the place, but if you try to reply, it immediately
addresses it to net.admin.abuse. I thought this was
interesting and thought you mind find it interesting also.
We will now return to our regular programming.....
Yea, thanks to Sharon.
Sorry, Dave,
Whoever it was also used Mark T's name and spoofed
the headers of same.
Whoever it was spoofed SEVERAL headers and impersonated
SEVERAL people here, not just you.
And the recipes they posted were, simply, rather sickening.
I doubt it was your shadow. . .whoever that person may be.
Not this time.
God bless,
Feather
=======
really? you mean I wasn't speaking with the real
Mark????????????????????????
Feather, how do you know when it isn't the realy Mccoy?
*scratching my head*
Well, there are parts of the header that gave it away:
the parts that said "Approved By" and then who "approved" them. In one
of the headers, it seemed to suggest that Vera had approved the post. In
another, it suggested that Mark had approved it. In yet another, it
suggested that Pastor Dave had. Since this is an umoderated forum,
there's no way anyone could have "approved" the posts, see what I mean?
That part was added by someone who has software that will allow them to
edit their headers and thereby deflect being found out. Some hacker has
waaaay too much time on their hands. . .
And Sharon can do it, since she has done it and has
admitted to impersonating me.
Question:
WHY then, would she go to the lengths of impersonating
OTHER PEOPLE, including yourself?
Makes NO sense to me. . .
seems like there's someone else out there doing this, and not her. .
.then again, IF the person who is / was impersonating you was
Sharon, I guess my question would be: WHY impersonate Mark
Tindall, Jude, and others here?
Whoever is doing it ALSO did it with another guy and me on
a moderated bible study ng. It's obviously someone who either
regularly posts on christian ngs and/or a lurker who decided
to some some exceptionally grotesque trolling.
As far as that woman Sharon, Dave NEVER let's up on anything
or let's ANYTHING die down. He's going be hammering at Sharon
till who knows when. I think the woman did pretend to be him
as a kind of mocking and came clean about it but THAT'S not
good enough for Dave. He hammers and hammers and he just
doesn't quit. She's NOW (because she was trusting enough to
be honest with Dave and admit her joke) the WHOLE entity
behind all the obnoxious fraudulent posts.
There is somebody who has been falsifying Dave for awhile now.
Either this persona has expanded his/her posts to other people
or we have (which is what I think) yet ANOTHER more devious
troll making fraudulent posts. The two imposters, to me, are
different. One just mocked Dave's post and changes them
around a little. This other persona is doing the sick
recipes. It's appears to be 2 different people BUT
appearances CAN be deceiving like they say...
********************************************************
And there are plenty more. But this one suffices to show
what a liar you are!
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.
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| User: "Jude + Alexander cajun@the bayou.LA" |
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| Title: Re: JUDE - YOUR IMPERSONATOR CONFESSION |
02 Aug 2007 07:23:03 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:bd52b3tude6tl3q8k1n2pa5ju7cfvcj221@4ax.com...
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:14:45 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
I am not going to debate this. As I said, I am done with you.
But I just happened to run across this, while looking for a
quote that I provided for Randy and thought I would post it.
This proves that you know very well that you did impersonate
me and others as well.
AIN'T THAT CONVENIENT. You are done with me when I ask for proof which IS
impossible.
Way to go, Dave.
"Žandy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:j060b3t22ublblkbfk6mt5pjg99vlpsi9c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:56:44 -0400,
in article <9310b39ot4ae36lnarci527q54d29ekc36@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Randy also lied, since he's one of the ones who caught people
impersonating me.
Dave, YOU said that Randy caught ME impersonating you.
THAT is a lie. I've neverly secretively tried or impersonated you.
I just love the way you try to throw the word "secretly"
in there. :)
You did impersonate both Vera and I. And you admitted
to it. You just, by your own admission, did a bad job at it.
The following are your words...
JUDE:
**********************************************
I, in response to somebody else, pretended to be you
and Vera (a long time ago) and when I did THAT I
did it was an OBVIOUS joke with NO pretense to hide
my true identity.
**********************************************
The truth is, you did pretend to be me and you did not
sign your own name to the posts, so to claim that you
made no pretense to hide your identity, is ridiculous!
And whether you wish to call it a joke or not, the point is,
that you had denied doing it at all. And now, here you are,
claiming that you never "seriously" did it. But the fact is,
that no, it was not "an obvious joke". You started saying
that afterward, to try to cover for yourself.
The truth is, that your remarks, while pretending to be me,
were very harmful and weren't funny at all. And anyone
who thinks they were funny, has a seriously dark heart!
You proved that I have been impersonated and you did
use foul language in those posts in which you pretended
to be me and the fact is, that while you may not have
done a very good job of hiding your trail when you chose
to impersonate me, you did try to. I know this, since
I know you were looking for help to do a better job.
You didn't think I knew about that, huh? And you can
claim it was a joke all you want and that you never tried
to hide it, but the reality is, that you kept going with it
and you did not tell people it was you while you were
doing it.
And the bottom line is, that for those who do not know
how to check these things out, what they see, is what
looks like a message from me, with you as the actual
writer, saying things that I would not say and even
saying things like I'm not really a believer, etc.. I didn't
forget Jude. So you and Randy can deny your roles all
you want. The bottom line is, that you both did do exactly
what I said you both did. And thank you for admitting
your role in it.
Thanks for proving that I did not lie about what you did
and that you did lie about it.
And you can also deny that I was impersonated by someone
very well, right down to the headers if you want to, but
the quote of your words that I provided above, is from
a message in which you were discussing that very thing
with Feather. Of course, you slammed me some more,
but the point is, that you knew it happened and did
acknowledge that it was happening to me!
Here is the entire post, which was from you. And let's note
Jude, aside from your lies about me, since for example,
it was Sharon attacking me all along, just like you do,
that you did say that there was more than one doing it
and let us note that it wasn't so easy to tell that it was
an imposter and that it was noted that even the headers
matched mine.
So I find it interesting that you and Randy now make
all of these claims about me being a liar when I say
I was impersonated at various times and yet, here
you are, admitting that it happened.
And let us note one thing... No one knew who it was
at the point in time that you wrote the message below,
which shows that they did do a very good job of
forging the headers!
And contrary to Randy's claim, which he knows very well
is a lie, it is not difficult to match the reader version, nor
the headers, nor the path the message takes, etc., if you
know what you're doing. And contrary to Randy trying
to pretend that the same time zone means I'm not being
impersonated, that is a very easy thing to forge and isn't
even necessary, if the impersonator is already in the
same time zone!
Anyway, here's your message Jude...
JUDE:
*****************************************************
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:42:29 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Feather Forestwalker <feat...@NOSPAM.net>
pontificated:
HeLovesYou wrote:
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:45:22 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "JPF" <f8thn...@nospam.net> pontificated:
Excuse this interruption......but...
There have been some posts lately under Pastor Dave's
name but they are not his. Subject Apology to Griz.....
some interesting recipes. Found the same posts in CC
under the name of Magnus. They are cross posted all
over the place, but if you try to reply, it immediately
addresses it to net.admin.abuse. I thought this was
interesting and thought you mind find it interesting also.
We will now return to our regular programming.....
Yea, thanks to Sharon.
Sorry, Dave,
Whoever it was also used Mark T's name and spoofed
the headers of same.
Whoever it was spoofed SEVERAL headers and impersonated
SEVERAL people here, not just you.
And the recipes they posted were, simply, rather sickening.
I doubt it was your shadow. . .whoever that person may be.
Not this time.
God bless,
Feather
=======
really? you mean I wasn't speaking with the real
Mark????????????????????????
Feather, how do you know when it isn't the realy Mccoy?
*scratching my head*
Well, there are parts of the header that gave it away:
the parts that said "Approved By" and then who "approved" them. In one
of the headers, it seemed to suggest that Vera had approved the post. In
another, it suggested that Mark had approved it. In yet another, it
suggested that Pastor Dave had. Since this is an umoderated forum,
there's no way anyone could have "approved" the posts, see what I mean?
That part was added by someone who has software that will allow them to
edit their headers and thereby deflect being found out. Some hacker has
waaaay too much time on their hands. . .
And Sharon can do it, since she has done it and has
admitted to impersonating me.
Question:
WHY then, would she go to the lengths of impersonating
OTHER PEOPLE, including yourself?
Makes NO sense to me. . .
seems like there's someone else out there doing this, and not her. .
.then again, IF the person who is / was impersonating you was
Sharon, I guess my question would be: WHY impersonate Mark
Tindall, Jude, and others here?
Whoever is doing it ALSO did it with another guy and me on
a moderated bible study ng. It's obviously someone who either
regularly posts on christian ngs and/or a lurker who decided
to some some exceptionally grotesque trolling.
As far as that woman Sharon, Dave NEVER let's up on anything
or let's ANYTHING die down. He's going be hammering at Sharon
till who knows when. I think the woman did pretend to be him
as a kind of mocking and came clean about it but THAT'S not
good enough for Dave. He hammers and hammers and he just
doesn't quit. She's NOW (because she was trusting enough to
be honest with Dave and admit her joke) the WHOLE entity
behind all the obnoxious fraudulent posts.
There is somebody who has been falsifying Dave for awhile now.
Either this persona has expanded his/her posts to other people
or we have (which is what I think) yet ANOTHER more devious
troll making fraudulent posts. The two imposters, to me, are
different. One just mocked Dave's post and changes them
around a little. This other persona is doing the sick
recipes. It's appears to be 2 different people BUT
appearances CAN be deceiving like they say...
********************************************************
And there are plenty more. But this one suffices to show
what a liar you are!
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: JUDE - YOUR IMPERSONATOR CONFESSION |
02 Aug 2007 11:48:18 AM |
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 07:23:03 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:bd52b3tude6tl3q8k1n2pa5ju7cfvcj221@4ax.com...
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:14:45 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
I am not going to debate this. As I said, I am done with you.
But I just happened to run across this, while looking for a
quote that I provided for Randy and thought I would post it.
This proves that you know very well that you did impersonate
me and others as well.
AIN'T THAT CONVENIENT. You are done with me
when I ask for proof which IS impossible.
Way to go, Dave.
Lying won't help you. The proof was provided below.
So it obviously isn't impossible. And trying to cut off
the message before the proof, only makes you look
foolish.
You keep changing your tune. You claim you didn't
impersonate me, then you admit it, then you claim
you didn't, etc., etc..
As I said, the proof that you did it and that you knew
that others were doing it, is quoted below and it is
your words that are quoted admitting to both of these
facts. Here it is again for you.
"Žandy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:j060b3t22ublblkbfk6mt5pjg99vlpsi9c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:56:44 -0400,
in article <9310b39ot4ae36lnarci527q54d29ekc36@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Randy also lied, since he's one of the ones who caught people
impersonating me.
Dave, YOU said that Randy caught ME impersonating you.
THAT is a lie. I've neverly secretively tried or impersonated you.
I just love the way you try to throw the word "secretly"
in there. :)
You did impersonate both Vera and I. And you admitted
to it. You just, by your own admission, did a bad job at it.
The following are your words...
JUDE:
**********************************************
I, in response to somebody else, pretended to be you
and Vera (a long time ago) and when I did THAT I
did it was an OBVIOUS joke with NO pretense to hide
my true identity.
**********************************************
The truth is, you did pretend to be me and you did not
sign your own name to the posts, so to claim that you
made no pretense to hide your identity, is ridiculous!
And whether you wish to call it a joke or not, the point is,
that you had denied doing it at all. And now, here you are,
claiming that you never "seriously" did it. But the fact is,
that no, it was not "an obvious joke". You started saying
that afterward, to try to cover for yourself.
The truth is, that your remarks, while pretending to be me,
were very harmful and weren't funny at all. And anyone
who thinks they were funny, has a seriously dark heart!
You proved that I have been impersonated and you did
use foul language in those posts in which you pretended
to be me and the fact is, that while you may not have
done a very good job of hiding your trail when you chose
to impersonate me, you did try to. I know this, since
I know you were looking for help to do a better job.
You didn't think I knew about that, huh? And you can
claim it was a joke all you want and that you never tried
to hide it, but the reality is, that you kept going with it
and you did not tell people it was you while you were
doing it.
And the bottom line is, that for those who do not know
how to check these things out, what they see, is what
looks like a message from me, with you as the actual
writer, saying things that I would not say and even
saying things like I'm not really a believer, etc.. I didn't
forget Jude. So you and Randy can deny your roles all
you want. The bottom line is, that you both did do exactly
what I said you both did. And thank you for admitting
your role in it.
Thanks for proving that I did not lie about what you did
and that you did lie about it.
And you can also deny that I was impersonated by someone
very well, right down to the headers if you want to, but
the quote of your words that I provided above, is from
a message in which you were discussing that very thing
with Feather. Of course, you slammed me some more,
but the point is, that you knew it happened and did
acknowledge that it was happening to me!
Here is the entire post, which was from you. And let's note
Jude, aside from your lies about me, since for example,
it was Sharon attacking me all along, just like you do,
that you did say that there was more than one doing it
and let us note that it wasn't so easy to tell that it was
an imposter and that it was noted that even the headers
matched mine.
So I find it interesting that you and Randy now make
all of these claims about me being a liar when I say
I was impersonated at various times and yet, here
you are, admitting that it happened.
And let us note one thing... No one knew who it was
at the point in time that you wrote the message below,
which shows that they did do a very good job of
forging the headers!
And contrary to Randy's claim, which he knows very well
is a lie, it is not difficult to match the reader version, nor
the headers, nor the path the message takes, etc., if you
know what you're doing. And contrary to Randy trying
to pretend that the same time zone means I'm not being
impersonated, that is a very easy thing to forge and isn't
even necessary, if the impersonator is already in the
same time zone!
Anyway, here's your message Jude...
JUDE:
*****************************************************
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:42:29 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Feather Forestwalker <feat...@NOSPAM.net>
pontificated:
HeLovesYou wrote:
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:45:22 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "JPF" <f8thn...@nospam.net> pontificated:
Excuse this interruption......but...
There have been some posts lately under Pastor Dave's
name but they are not his. Subject Apology to Griz.....
some interesting recipes. Found the same posts in CC
under the name of Magnus. They are cross posted all
over the place, but if you try to reply, it immediately
addresses it to net.admin.abuse. I thought this was
interesting and thought you mind find it interesting also.
We will now return to our regular programming.....
Yea, thanks to Sharon.
Sorry, Dave,
Whoever it was also used Mark T's name and spoofed
the headers of same.
Whoever it was spoofed SEVERAL headers and impersonated
SEVERAL people here, not just you.
And the recipes they posted were, simply, rather sickening.
I doubt it was your shadow. . .whoever that person may be.
Not this time.
God bless,
Feather
=======
really? you mean I wasn't speaking with the real
Mark????????????????????????
Feather, how do you know when it isn't the realy Mccoy?
*scratching my head*
Well, there are parts of the header that gave it away:
the parts that said "Approved By" and then who "approved" them. In one
of the headers, it seemed to suggest that Vera had approved the post. In
another, it suggested that Mark had approved it. In yet another, it
suggested that Pastor Dave had. Since this is an umoderated forum,
there's no way anyone could have "approved" the posts, see what I mean?
That part was added by someone who has software that will allow them to
edit their headers and thereby deflect being found out. Some hacker has
waaaay too much time on their hands. . .
And Sharon can do it, since she has done it and has
admitted to impersonating me.
Question:
WHY then, would she go to the lengths of impersonating
OTHER PEOPLE, including yourself?
Makes NO sense to me. . .
seems like there's someone else out there doing this, and not her. .
.then again, IF the person who is / was impersonating you was
Sharon, I guess my question would be: WHY impersonate Mark
Tindall, Jude, and others here?
Whoever is doing it ALSO did it with another guy and me on
a moderated bible study ng. It's obviously someone who either
regularly posts on christian ngs and/or a lurker who decided
to some some exceptionally grotesque trolling.
As far as that woman Sharon, Dave NEVER let's up on anything
or let's ANYTHING die down. He's going be hammering at Sharon
till who knows when. I think the woman did pretend to be him
as a kind of mocking and came clean about it but THAT'S not
good enough for Dave. He hammers and hammers and he just
doesn't quit. She's NOW (because she was trusting enough to
be honest with Dave and admit her joke) the WHOLE entity
behind all the obnoxious fraudulent posts.
There is somebody who has been falsifying Dave for awhile now.
Either this persona has expanded his/her posts to other people
or we have (which is what I think) yet ANOTHER more devious
troll making fraudulent posts. The two imposters, to me, are
different. One just mocked Dave's post and changes them
around a little. This other persona is doing the sick
recipes. It's appears to be 2 different people BUT
appearances CAN be deceiving like they say...
********************************************************
And there are plenty more. But this one suffices to show
what a liar you are!
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.
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| User: "Jude Alexander" |
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| Title: Re: JUDE - YOUR IMPERSONATOR CONFESSION |
02 Aug 2007 12:58:15 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:gm24b393gbogdnqnnp25hrbe4iks0plihj@4ax.com...
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 07:23:03 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:bd52b3tude6tl3q8k1n2pa5ju7cfvcj221@4ax.com...
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:14:45 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
I am not going to debate this. As I said, I am done with you.
But I just happened to run across this, while looking for a
quote that I provided for Randy and thought I would post it.
This proves that you know very well that you did impersonate
me and others as well.
AIN'T THAT CONVENIENT. You are done with me
when I ask for proof which IS impossible.
Way to go, Dave.
Lying won't help you. The proof was provided below.
So it obviously isn't impossible. And trying to cut off
the message before the proof, only makes you look
foolish.
You keep changing your tune. You claim you didn't
impersonate me, then you admit it, then you claim
you didn't, etc., etc..
As I said, the proof that you did it and that you knew
that others were doing it, is quoted below and it is
your words that are quoted admitting to both of these
facts. Here it is again for you.
"Žandy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:j060b3t22ublblkbfk6mt5pjg99vlpsi9c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:56:44 -0400,
in article <9310b39ot4ae36lnarci527q54d29ekc36@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Randy also lied, since he's one of the ones who caught people
impersonating me.
Dave, YOU said that Randy caught ME impersonating you.
THAT is a lie. I've neverly secretively tried or impersonated you.
I just love the way you try to throw the word "secretly"
in there. :)
You did impersonate both Vera and I. And you admitted
to it. You just, by your own admission, did a bad job at it.
The following are your words...
JUDE:
**********************************************
I, in response to somebody else, pretended to be you
and Vera (a long time ago) and when I did THAT I
did it was an OBVIOUS joke with NO pretense to hide
my true identity.
**********************************************
But you keep referring to a SERIOUS impersonation that you said Randy caught
me doing.
Also the LAST time you posted the above you you cut it at the end of "(a
long time ago)." Why? You cut off the part where I'm REPEATEDLY OVER YEARS
have said so and BOTH TIMES WERE OBVIOUS FROM THE GET GO!!!
The truth is, you did pretend to be me and you did not
sign your own name to the posts, so to claim that you
made no pretense to hide your identity, is ridiculous!
You're just bone level sick, Dave. lol
And whether you wish to call it a joke or not, the point is,
that you had denied doing it at all. And now, here you are,
claiming that you never "seriously" did it. But the fact is,
that no, it was not "an obvious joke". You started saying
that afterward, to try to cover for yourself.
The truth is, that your remarks, while pretending to be me,
were very harmful and weren't funny at all. And anyone
who thinks they were funny, has a seriously dark heart!
You proved that I have been impersonated and you did
use foul language in those posts in which you pretended
to be me and the fact is, that while you may not have
done a very good job of hiding your trail when you chose
to impersonate me, you did try to. I know this, since
I know you were looking for help to do a better job.
You didn't think I knew about that, huh? And you can
claim it was a joke all you want and that you never tried
to hide it, but the reality is, that you kept going with it
and you did not tell people it was you while you were
doing it.
And the bottom line is, that for those who do not know
how to check these things out, what they see, is what
looks like a message from me, with you as the actual
writer, saying things that I would not say and even
saying things like I'm not really a believer, etc.. I didn't
forget Jude. So you and Randy can deny your roles all
you want. The bottom line is, that you both did do exactly
what I said you both did. And thank you for admitting
your role in it.
Thanks for proving that I did not lie about what you did
and that you did lie about it.
And you can also deny that I was impersonated by someone
very well, right down to the headers if you want to, but
the quote of your words that I provided above, is from
a message in which you were discussing that very thing
with Feather. Of course, you slammed me some more,
but the point is, that you knew it happened and did
acknowledge that it was happening to me!
Here is the entire post, which was from you. And let's note
Jude, aside from your lies about me, since for example,
it was Sharon attacking me all along, just like you do,
that you did say that there was more than one doing it
and let us note that it wasn't so easy to tell that it was
an imposter and that it was noted that even the headers
matched mine.
So I find it interesting that you and Randy now make
all of these claims about me being a liar when I say
I was impersonated at various times and yet, here
you are, admitting that it happened.
And let us note one thing... No one knew who it was
at the point in time that you wrote the message below,
which shows that they did do a very good job of
forging the headers!
And contrary to Randy's claim, which he knows very well
is a lie, it is not difficult to match the reader version, nor
the headers, nor the path the message takes, etc., if you
know what you're doing. And contrary to Randy trying
to pretend that the same time zone means I'm not being
impersonated, that is a very easy thing to forge and isn't
even necessary, if the impersonator is already in the
same time zone!
Anyway, here's your message Jude...
JUDE:
*****************************************************
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:42:29 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Feather Forestwalker <feat...@NOSPAM.net>
pontificated:
HeLovesYou wrote:
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:45:22 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "JPF" <f8thn...@nospam.net> pontificated:
Excuse this interruption......but...
There have been some posts lately under Pastor Dave's
name but they are not his. Subject Apology to Griz.....
some interesting recipes. Found the same posts in CC
under the name of Magnus. They are cross posted all
over the place, but if you try to reply, it immediately
addresses it to net.admin.abuse. I thought this was
interesting and thought you mind find it interesting also.
We will now return to our regular programming.....
Yea, thanks to Sharon.
Sorry, Dave,
Whoever it was also used Mark T's name and spoofed
the headers of same.
Whoever it was spoofed SEVERAL headers and impersonated
SEVERAL people here, not just you.
And the recipes they posted were, simply, rather sickening.
I doubt it was your shadow. . .whoever that person may be.
Not this time.
God bless,
Feather
=======
really? you mean I wasn't speaking with the real
Mark????????????????????????
Feather, how do you know when it isn't the realy Mccoy?
*scratching my head*
Well, there are parts of the header that gave it away:
the parts that said "Approved By" and then who "approved" them. In one
of the headers, it seemed to suggest that Vera had approved the post. In
another, it suggested that Mark had approved it. In yet another, it
suggested that Pastor Dave had. Since this is an umoderated forum,
there's no way anyone could have "approved" the posts, see what I mean?
That part was added by someone who has software that will allow them to
edit their headers and thereby deflect being found out. Some hacker has
waaaay too much time on their hands. . .
And Sharon can do it, since she has done it and has
admitted to impersonating me.
Question:
WHY then, would she go to the lengths of impersonating
OTHER PEOPLE, including yourself?
Makes NO sense to me. . .
seems like there's someone else out there doing this, and not her. .
.then again, IF the person who is / was impersonating you was
Sharon, I guess my question would be: WHY impersonate Mark
Tindall, Jude, and others here?
Whoever is doing it ALSO did it with another guy and me on
a moderated bible study ng. It's obviously someone who either
regularly posts on christian ngs and/or a lurker who decided
to some some exceptionally grotesque trolling.
As far as that woman Sharon, Dave NEVER let's up on anything
or let's ANYTHING die down. He's going be hammering at Sharon
till who knows when. I think the woman did pretend to be him
as a kind of mocking and came clean about it but THAT'S not
good enough for Dave. He hammers and hammers and he just
doesn't quit. She's NOW (because she was trusting enough to
be honest with Dave and admit her joke) the WHOLE entity
behind all the obnoxious fraudulent posts.
There is somebody who has been falsifying Dave for awhile now.
Either this persona has expanded his/her posts to other people
or we have (which is what I think) yet ANOTHER more devious
troll making fraudulent posts. The two imposters, to me, are
different. One just mocked Dave's post and changes them
around a little. This other persona is doing the sick
recipes. It's appears to be 2 different people BUT
appearances CAN be deceiving like they say...
********************************************************
And there are plenty more. But this one suffices to show
what a liar you are!
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: JUDE - YOUR IMPERSONATOR CONFESSION |
02 Aug 2007 01:37:36 PM |
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:58:15 -0500, "Jude Alexander"
<dibbitydoda@myohmy.com> spoke thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:gm24b393gbogdnqnnp25hrbe4iks0plihj@4ax.com...
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 07:23:03 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:bd52b3tude6tl3q8k1n2pa5ju7cfvcj221@4ax.com...
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:14:45 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
I am not going to debate this. As I said, I am done with you.
But I just happened to run across this, while looking for a
quote that I provided for Randy and thought I would post it.
This proves that you know very well that you did impersonate
me and others as well.
AIN'T THAT CONVENIENT. You are done with me
when I ask for proof which IS impossible.
Way to go, Dave.
Lying won't help you. The proof was provided below.
So it obviously isn't impossible. And trying to cut off
the message before the proof, only makes you look
foolish.
You keep changing your tune. You claim you didn't
impersonate me, then you admit it, then you claim
you didn't, etc., etc..
As I said, the proof that you did it and that you knew
that others were doing it, is quoted below and it is
your words that are quoted admitting to both of these
facts. Here it is again for you.
"Žandy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:j060b3t22ublblkbfk6mt5pjg99vlpsi9c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:56:44 -0400,
in article <9310b39ot4ae36lnarci527q54d29ekc36@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Randy also lied, since he's one of the ones who caught people
impersonating me.
Dave, YOU said that Randy caught ME impersonating you.
THAT is a lie. I've neverly secretively tried or impersonated you.
I just love the way you try to throw the word "secretly"
in there. :)
You did impersonate both Vera and I. And you admitted
to it. You just, by your own admission, did a bad job at it.
The following are your words...
JUDE:
**********************************************
I, in response to somebody else, pretended to be you
and Vera (a long time ago) and when I did THAT I
did it was an OBVIOUS joke with NO pretense to hide
my true identity.
**********************************************
But you keep referring to a SERIOUS impersonation that you said Randy caught
me doing.
Lying will not help you.
The truth is, you did pretend to be me and you did not
sign your own name to the posts, so to claim that you
made no pretense to hide your identity, is ridiculous!
You're just bone level sick, Dave. lol
The truth is, you're ignoring the fact that you lied
when you said that you never impersonated me.
You later changed it to "seriously".
You also lied when you claimed that I had not
been impersonated by others.
The proof of both being done, is below and
you keep ignoring it and pretending it
doesn't exist.
Everyone here, including you, knows what
you're trying to do here, Jude. And it isn't
working.
And whether you wish to call it a joke or not, the point is,
that you had denied doing it at all. And now, here you are,
claiming that you never "seriously" did it. But the fact is,
that no, it was not "an obvious joke". You started saying
that afterward, to try to cover for yourself.
The truth is, that your remarks, while pretending to be me,
were very harmful and weren't funny at all. And anyone
who thinks they were funny, has a seriously dark heart!
You proved that I have been impersonated and you did
use foul language in those posts in which you pretended
to be me and the fact is, that while you may not have
done a very good job of hiding your trail when you chose
to impersonate me, you did try to. I know this, since
I know you were looking for help to do a better job.
You didn't think I knew about that, huh? And you can
claim it was a joke all you want and that you never tried
to hide it, but the reality is, that you kept going with it
and you did not tell people it was you while you were
doing it.
And the bottom line is, that for those who do not know
how to check these things out, what they see, is what
looks like a message from me, with you as the actual
writer, saying things that I would not say and even
saying things like I'm not really a believer, etc.. I didn't
forget Jude. So you and Randy can deny your roles all
you want. The bottom line is, that you both did do exactly
what I said you both did. And thank you for admitting
your role in it.
Thanks for proving that I did not lie about what you did
and that you did lie about it.
And you can also deny that I was impersonated by someone
very well, right down to the headers if you want to, but
the quote of your words that I provided above, is from
a message in which you were discussing that very thing
with Feather. Of course, you slammed me some more,
but the point is, that you knew it happened and did
acknowledge that it was happening to me!
Here is the entire post, which was from you. And let's note
Jude, aside from your lies about me, since for example,
it was Sharon attacking me all along, just like you do,
that you did say that there was more than one doing it
and let us note that it wasn't so easy to tell that it was
an imposter and that it was noted that even the headers
matched mine.
So I find it interesting that you and Randy now make
all of these claims about me being a liar when I say
I was impersonated at various times and yet, here
you are, admitting that it happened.
And let us note one thing... No one knew who it was
at the point in time that you wrote the message below,
which shows that they did do a very good job of
forging the headers!
And contrary to Randy's claim, which he knows very well
is a lie, it is not difficult to match the reader version, nor
the headers, nor the path the message takes, etc., if you
know what you're doing. And contrary to Randy trying
to pretend that the same time zone means I'm not being
impersonated, that is a very easy thing to forge and isn't
even necessary, if the impersonator is already in the
same time zone!
Anyway, here's your message Jude...
JUDE:
*****************************************************
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:42:29 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Feather Forestwalker <feat...@NOSPAM.net>
pontificated:
HeLovesYou wrote:
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:45:22 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "JPF" <f8thn...@nospam.net> pontificated:
Excuse this interruption......but...
There have been some posts lately under Pastor Dave's
name but they are not his. Subject Apology to Griz.....
some interesting recipes. Found the same posts in CC
under the name of Magnus. They are cross posted all
over the place, but if you try to reply, it immediately
addresses it to net.admin.abuse. I thought this was
interesting and thought you mind find it interesting also.
We will now return to our regular programming.....
Yea, thanks to Sharon.
Sorry, Dave,
Whoever it was also used Mark T's name and spoofed
the headers of same.
Whoever it was spoofed SEVERAL headers and impersonated
SEVERAL people here, not just you.
And the recipes they posted were, simply, rather sickening.
I doubt it was your shadow. . .whoever that person may be.
Not this time.
God bless,
Feather
=======
really? you mean I wasn't speaking with the real
Mark????????????????????????
Feather, how do you know when it isn't the realy Mccoy?
*scratching my head*
Well, there are parts of the header that gave it away:
the parts that said "Approved By" and then who "approved" them. In one
of the headers, it seemed to suggest that Vera had approved the post. In
another, it suggested that Mark had approved it. In yet another, it
suggested that Pastor Dave had. Since this is an umoderated forum,
there's no way anyone could have "approved" the posts, see what I mean?
That part was added by someone who has software that will allow them to
edit their headers and thereby deflect being found out. Some hacker has
waaaay too much time on their hands. . .
And Sharon can do it, since she has done it and has
admitted to impersonating me.
Question:
WHY then, would she go to the lengths of impersonating
OTHER PEOPLE, including yourself?
Makes NO sense to me. . .
seems like there's someone else out there doing this, and not her. .
.then again, IF the person who is / was impersonating you was
Sharon, I guess my question would be: WHY impersonate Mark
Tindall, Jude, and others here?
Whoever is doing it ALSO did it with another guy and me on
a moderated bible study ng. It's obviously someone who either
regularly posts on christian ngs and/or a lurker who decided
to some some exceptionally grotesque trolling.
As far as that woman Sharon, Dave NEVER let's up on anything
or let's ANYTHING die down. He's going be hammering at Sharon
till who knows when. I think the woman did pretend to be him
as a kind of mocking and came clean about it but THAT'S not
good enough for Dave. He hammers and hammers and he just
doesn't quit. She's NOW (because she was trusting enough to
be honest with Dave and admit her joke) the WHOLE entity
behind all the obnoxious fraudulent posts.
There is somebody who has been falsifying Dave for awhile now.
Either this persona has expanded his/her posts to other people
or we have (which is what I think) yet ANOTHER more devious
troll making fraudulent posts. The two imposters, to me, are
different. One just mocked Dave's post and changes them
around a little. This other persona is doing the sick
recipes. It's appears to be 2 different people BUT
appearances CAN be deceiving like they say...
********************************************************
And there are plenty more. But this one suffices to show
what a liar you are!
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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| Title: Re: JUDE - YOUR IMPERSONATOR CONFESSION |
02 Aug 2007 03:58:51 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:58:15 -0500, "Jude Alexander"
<dibbitydoda@myohmy.com> spoke thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 07:23:03 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:14:45 -0500, "Jude + Alexander"
<cajun@the bayou.LA> spoke thusly:
I am not going to debate this. As I said, I am done with you.
But I just happened to run across this, while looking for a
quote that I provided for Randy and thought I would post it.
This proves that you know very well that you did impersonate
me and others as well.
AIN'T THAT CONVENIENT. You are done with me
when I ask for proof which IS impossible.
Way to go, Dave.
Lying won't help you. The proof was provided below.
So it obviously isn't impossible. And trying to cut off
the message before the proof, only makes you look
foolish.
You keep changing your tune. You claim you didn't
impersonate me, then you admit it, then you claim
you didn't, etc., etc..
As I said, the proof that you did it and that you knew
that others were doing it, is quoted below and it is
your words that are quoted admitting to both of these
facts. Here it is again for you.
"Žandy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:56:44 -0400,
in article <9310b39ot4ae36lnarci527q54d29ekc36@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Randy also lied, since he's one of the ones who caught people
impersonating me.
Dave, YOU said that Randy caught ME impersonating you.
THAT is a lie. I've neverly secretively tried or impersonated you.
I just love the way you try to throw the word "secretly"
in there. :)
You did impersonate both Vera and I. And you admitted
to it. You just, by your own admission, did a bad job at it.
The following are your words...
JUDE:
**********************************************
I, in response to somebody else, pretended to be you
and Vera (a long time ago) and when I did THAT I
did it was an OBVIOUS joke with NO pretense to hide
my true identity.
**********************************************
But you keep referring to a SERIOUS impersonation that you said Randy
caught
me doing.
Lying will not help you.
I don't need any help, Dave. It's you who are bone level dishonest. When
you posted what I said you either paraphrased it incorrectly and when you
posted it the first time, you left off the part where it was an obvious
spoof. You have acted somewhere in the number of 7/8 times like we've never
had this covnersation before and that I've never outlined to you how I
spoofed you and Vera each once and that they were both made to be OBVIOUS
spoofs.
It's not a lie that you claim that Randy told you that he caught me
seriously impersonating you trying to smirch you character.
You're a toad of a man, much less a "man of God.
Keep denying. ANYBODY who has even kept up just a little about this
impersonation claim can see through your lies, exaggerations, mis-directions
and smoke screen.
Oh, and BTW, did you notice that I didn't bother to answer the reduntant
posts about the same subject while you're madly running around answering
each one with the same bs? Seems like you would want to have one thread,
one subject but you guys are incredible how you make multiple posts
regarding the same subject.
The truth is, you did pretend to be me and you did not
sign your own name to the posts, so to claim that you
made no pretense to hide your identity, is ridiculous!
You're just bone level sick, Dave. lol
The truth is, you're ignoring the fact that you lied
when you said that you never impersonated me.
You later changed it to "seriously".
This is a lie. I never changed anything I said regarding this issue.
You also lied when you claimed that I had not
been impersonated by others.
I never said you were never impersonated by others. Another complete lie.
What's completely hilarious is that there's proof of that in this post that
you posted to show ME up as a liar! LOL ROTFLMAO. Look below when Feather
& I are talking about Sharon. I'm talking about Sharon impersonating you!
In fact, I say so TWICE!!! Smile, you're on Candid Camera. Thank you, God,
for showing Dave up for what he truly is.... Amen. :)
The proof of both being done, is below and
you keep ignoring it and pretending it
doesn't exist.
What proof, Dave? That you lied when you said you were never impersonated?
:) he he he
Also below is me talking about how both YOU and RANDY dennied anyone's ever
impersonated me (for one person I know is called BobandCarole)! See how
that works!
DAVE, RE-READ THE WHOLE cut and paste job below that YOU included in this
post!!!! lol
Everyone here, including you, knows what
you're trying to do here, Jude. And it isn't
working.
And whether you wish to call it a joke or not, the point is,
that you had denied doing it at all. And now, here you are,
claiming that you never "seriously" did it. But the fact is,
that no, it was not "an obvious joke". You started saying
that afterward, to try to cover for yourself.
The truth is, that your remarks, while pretending to be me,
were very harmful and weren't funny at all. And anyone
who thinks they were funny, has a seriously dark heart!
You proved that I have been impersonated and you did
use foul language in those posts in which you pretended
to be me and the fact is, that while you may not have
done a very good job of hiding your trail when you chose
to impersonate me, you did try to. I know this, since
I know you were looking for help to do a better job.
You didn't think I knew about that, huh? And you can
claim it was a joke all you want and that you never tried
to hide it, but the reality is, that you kept going with it
and you did not tell people it was you while you were
doing it.
And the bottom line is, that for those who do not know
how to check these things out, what they see, is what
looks like a message from me, with you as the actual
writer, saying things that I would not say and even
saying things like I'm not really a believer, etc.. I didn't
forget Jude. So you and Randy can deny your roles all
you want. The bottom line is, that you both did do exactly
what I said you both did. And thank you for admitting
your role in it.
Thanks for proving that I did not lie about what you did
and that you did lie about it.
And you can also deny that I was impersonated by someone
very well, right down to the headers if you want to, but
the quote of your words that I provided above, is from
a message in which you were discussing that very thing
with Feather. Of course, you slammed me some more,
but the point is, that you knew it happened and did
acknowledge that it was happening to me!
Here is the entire post, which was from you. And let's note
Jude, aside from your lies about me, since for example,
it was Sharon attacking me all along, just like you do,
that you did say that there was more than one doing it
and let us note that it wasn't so easy to tell that it was
an imposter and that it was noted that even the headers
matched mine.
So I find it interesting that you and Randy now make
all of these claims about me being a liar when I say
I was impersonated at various times and yet, here
you are, admitting that it happened.
And let us note one thing... No one knew who it was
at the point in time that you wrote the message below,
which shows that they did do a very good job of
forging the headers!
And contrary to Randy's claim, which he knows very well
is a lie, it is not difficult to match the reader version, nor
the headers, nor the path the message takes, etc., if you
know what you're doing. And contrary to Randy trying
to pretend that the same time zone means I'm not being
impersonated, that is a very easy thing to forge and isn't
even necessary, if the impersonator is already in the
same time zone!
Anyway, here's your message Jude...
JUDE:
*****************************************************
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:42:29 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, Feather Forestwalker <feat...@NOSPAM.net>
pontificated:
HeLovesYou wrote:
"Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAM.net> wrote
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:45:22 GMT, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "JPF" <f8thn...@nospam.net> pontificated:
Excuse this interruption......but...
There have been some posts lately under Pastor Dave's
name but they are not his. Subject Apology to Griz.....
some interesting recipes. Found the same posts in CC
under the name of Magnus. They are cross posted all
over the place, but if you try to reply, it immediately
addresses it to net.admin.abuse. I thought this was
interesting and thought you mind find it interesting also.
We will now return to our regular programming.....
Yea, thanks to Sharon.
Sorry, Dave,
Whoever it was also used Mark T's name and spoofed
the headers of same.
Whoever it was spoofed SEVERAL headers and impersonated
SEVERAL people here, not just you.
And the recipes they posted were, simply, rather sickening.
I doubt it was your shadow. . .whoever that person may be.
Not this time.
God bless,
Feather
=======
really? you mean I wasn't speaking with the real
Mark????????????????????????
Feather, how do you know when it isn't the realy Mccoy?
*scratching my head*
Well, there are parts of the header that gave it away:
the parts that said "Approved By" and then who "approved" them. In one
of the headers, it seemed to suggest that Vera had approved the post.
In
another, it suggested that Mark had approved it. In yet another, it
suggested that Pastor Dave had. Since this is an umoderated forum,
there's no way anyone could have "approved" the posts, see what I
mean?
That part was added by someone who has software that will allow them
to
edit their headers and thereby deflect being found out. Some hacker
has
waaaay too much time on their hands. . .
And Sharon can do it, since she has done it and has
admitted to impersonating me.
Question:
WHY then, would she go to the lengths of impersonating
OTHER PEOPLE, including yourself?
Makes NO sense to me. . .
seems like there's someone else out there doing this, and not her. .
.then again, IF the person who is / was impersonating you was
Sharon, I guess my question would be: WHY impersonate Mark
Tindall, Jude, and others here?
Whoever is doing it ALSO did it with another guy and me on
a moderated bible study ng. It's obviously someone who either
regularly posts on christian ngs and/or a lurker who decided
to some some exceptionally grotesque trolling.
As far as that woman Sharon, Dave NEVER let's up on anything
or let's ANYTHING die down. He's going be hammering at Sharon
till who knows when. I think the woman did pretend to be him
as a kind of mocking and came clean about it but THAT'S not
good enough for Dave. He hammers and hammers and he just
doesn't quit. She's NOW (because she was trusting enough to
be honest with Dave and admit her joke) the WHOLE entity
behind all the obnoxious fraudulent posts.
There is somebody who has been falsifying Dave for awhile now.
Either this persona has expanded his/her posts to other people
or we have (which is what I think) yet ANOTHER more devious
troll making fraudulent posts. The two imposters, to me, are
different. One just mocked Dave's post and changes them
around a little. This other persona is doing the sick
recipes. It's appears to be 2 different people BUT
appearances CAN be deceiving like they say...
********************************************************
And there are plenty more. But this one suffices to show
what a liar you are!
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: JUDE - YOUR IMPERSONATOR CONFESSION |
02 Aug 2007 05:13:46 PM |
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:58:51 -0500, "Jude Alexander"
<dibbitydoda@myohmy.com> spoke thusly:
I don't need any help, Dave. It's you who are bone level dishonest. When
you posted what I said you either paraphrased it incorrectly and when you
posted it the first time, you left off the part where it was an obvious
spoof.
That's not true. you added that later, as I said.
And I did not "paraphrase". I quoted you directly.
Fact: You claimed not to have impersonated me.
Fact: You claimed no one else was doing it.
Fact: I quoted you admitting that both happened.
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.
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| User: "Jude Alexander" |
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| Title: Re: JUDE - YOUR IMPERSONATOR CONFESSION |
02 Aug 2007 08:20:52 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:58:51 -0500, "Jude Alexander"
<dibbitydoda@myohmy.com> spoke thusly:
I don't need any help, Dave. It's you who are bone level dishonest. When
you posted what I said you either paraphrased it incorrectly and when you
posted it the first time, you left off the part where it was an obvious
spoof.
That's not true. you added that later, as I said.
And I did not "paraphrase". I quoted you directly.
Fact: You claimed not to have impersonated me.
Fact: You claimed no one else was doing it.
Fact: I quoted you admitting that both happened.
See how you clipped the proof that you lied? You're a FREAKING joke, Dave.
ANYBODY who is fooled by you hasn't watched you very long... :z0
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| User: "leo sgouros" |
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02 Aug 2007 08:51:04 PM |
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On Aug 2, 8:20 pm, "Jude Alexander" <dibbityd...@myohmy.com> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:58:51 -0500, "Jude Alexander"
<dibbityd...@myohmy.com> spoke thusly:
I don't need any help, Dave. It's you who are bone level dishonest. When
you posted what I said you either paraphrased it incorrectly and when you
posted it the first time, you left off the part where it was an obvious
spoof.
That's not true. you added that later, as I said.
And I did not "paraphrase". I quoted you directly.
Fact: You claimed not to have impersonated me.
Fact: You claimed no one else was doing it.
Fact: I quoted you admitting that both happened.
See how you clipped the proof that you lied? You're a FREAKING joke, Dave.
ANYBODY who is fooled by you hasn't watched you very long... :z0
Anybody who writes so much and says nothing can be ignored.
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