I can kind of feel for ya dog, but then who would really respect the
opinion
of someone who includes the whole long original thread in their terse
little
negative message??? While you may be right <sigh> I think most of us tend
to
want to cling to the dream nonetheless if ya know what I mean.

Perhaps though there is a third option and things are not always either
black nor white but the many shades of grey? I suggest you try the
swingers
group or perhaps the BDSM group. A combination of those two seems to be
working for my wife/slave and I although we do have our ups and downs.
Still
it is to me more plausible to share your wife with another man and share
his
wife with him than to play musical beds like the rest of the vanilla
world.
Why get a divorce when you can swap around and have an open marriage???
Works for us!

Why seek long-term relationships at all ? Most of the people on this
planet are seriously fucked up and have all kinds of crazy ***** issues..
Why do people (especially women) assume that there is some perfect
mate for them who is going to be romantic, funny, and loveable for
their entire life ? To me it seems like when you hold this
expectation you set yourself up for failure.

--dcnstrct