dear Glenn (Christian Mystic) wrote:

That is what the War On Terrorism is all about, like the Coast Guard
protecting our ports.

these are old fashion assumptions on your part.

you are assuming these organizations are being run corrected and not been
corrupted by the bad
government we have now. the coast guard is amazing yet the people that
fund and run it are also the people that failing in new orleans and new
york city to fix the infrastructure. it's been how many years since
9/11 and we still have a whole the ground in nyc.

dear Glenn (Christian Mystic) wrote:

That is what the War On Terrorism is all about, like the Coast Guard
protecting our ports.

these are old fashion assumptions on your part. you are assuming these
organizations are being run corrected and not been corrupted by the bad
government we have now. the coast guard is amazing yet the people that
fund and run it are also the people that failing in new orleans and new
york city to fix the infrastructure. it's been how many years since
9/11 and we still have a whole the ground in nyc.

Iraq is only one front, you forget Afghanistan ?

iraq is not war has never been a war, it is an insurgency fight and a
major civil war that does involve in the united state. where
afghanistan is a real war we walked away from and now are thinking
about restarting cause the talis have retaken the terrority in our
absense.

It
has been a major success story.

where? you are making poor assumptions here. there is no success in
the middle east at the moment. the insurgency has retaken most of iraq
and afganistan.

Look at security at our air ports,

it is none existant. searching people for fluids in bottles does not
capture terrorists.

government buildings and etc.

so the senators feel safe? the president feels safe while us yookles
have to worry every time we take public transportation?

you are not out in the world glenn, you are tucked away safely in your
own home, which you have managed the raydon merlin is hoping.

pour all those trillions of dollars into america's infrastructure and
improve things
for americans, schools public transport etc.

It is all being done.

it isn't glenn. look around, go for a ride in philadelphia, in parts
of any major city. no child left behind is so underfunded that
minorities are falling even further behind in education.

They are over there, and we are over here.

since when hon?

Since the war started.

there is no war, you are being lied to. there is no government or
organization we can declare war on..... who are we officially at war
with? beside bush mistakes?

what we are doing is allowing the terrorists to practice while we
fiddle and
not secure our own port, trains, buses and mail system.

Not everything the media throws at you is true.

the ports are not protected.

The port of Houston is protected. Why not where you are ?

cause no monies have been spent to creat the infrastructure that would
protect us. please discribe what you call port safety? is every box
check for radiation? that is merlin's big worry now.

the schools in america are not protected.

The schools here in Houston are protected, why aren't they where you are
?

how do you know? you are saying every school has metal protectors?
and search each student for weapons? doubt that in texas.

the bus system is not protected.

Our bus system isn't threatened

you don't know. you are assuming cause nothing has happened that your
public transport is safe? in nyc they warn constantly about all of us
watching for strange packages etc. that means there is no way of
protecting people when the people have to do the watching. that means
they expect a problem. when the system is shut down for security
purposes form fear.

when they shut down your local system cause of fear you will then
realize how unprotected you will feel. yet you do not take mass
transport now do you? like the rich and power don't even in nyc, so
they don't care about public transport, that is for the poor.

we have an enemy in our midst and we
are not focusing on how to protect the father/mother/land.

No enemy is in our midst, they are too busy elsewhere.

that is making the assumption 'they' can't be everywhere, lol. you are
not talking about ten people, we are talking about hundreds of unhappy
people ready to take up arms.

it's like the gay bashing going on all over america, we are constantly
watching our backs to make sure we do not put ourselves in harms way
even in what may be considered gay neighborhoods and the police are
never there when you need them for protection, they will be there to
write up the incident later however. each time we go out we watch
everyone and everything to make sure we are safe. when you do less
than that you may be indanger.

While they are busy over
there, two things are happening here, one improving security, and two
less
real need for security (as they are too busy at home to bother us)

who is too busy?

The terrorists

you are talking about terrorists like they all go shopping at the same
malls. you are not seein the greater picture. the college boys that
blew up the london trains had never been to the middle east. we not
talking about full blown pirates in matching outfits going off to do
battle we are talking about unhappy disgruntled men and women that want
to strike aback at anything for revenge to take down power and make
people pay attention no matter the message. there is no monolith like
with hitler or a feeling that should we ever get osama the war would
end like if we get hitler the war did end.

who is not able to imagrate here?

They are too busy to think about coming here.

they are here, have no idea where. have no idea how many. they are
here and can come thru canada with no fuss at all as the last time.

who not able to travel anywhere in the world?

They are caught before they can get here.

hope you are right in your wishfilled dreaming. who has been caught?
a crazy guy with a bomb in his shoes, some nuts shaking down an arab
for costumes and money, a several guys that can never be tried as they
were arrested illegally and/or tortured.

start seeing terrorism as the individuals it is.

Can't them, they aren't here.

where are they not? it isn't a group, terrorism is small bands of
individuals that talk others into hurting themselves while killing
others. there is no over riding organization, there is not religious
church either sponsoring all this, it is one guy deciding to do
something or several guys deciding to harm people for a political
statement.

it is not an easily identifiable group. the entire
group that destroyed wtc came into america thru canada took flying
lessons legally and then did their deed.

Yet nothing has happened in the USA since, interesting, huh ?

scary. how many years was it between the two world trade center
incidents? they waited all those years to try again. and next time
they want to be just as impress as the last. not into small targets am
guessing.

we are still not protecting our borders nor do we have control of
imigration.

Hear about the wall ?

a communist iron curtain for america? LOL. now tell us how well that
same wall worked for the soviet union? tell us how well that wall
worked for the east germans, neither group exists today after spending
billions over 50 years to build and mainatain that wall? where is the
berlin wall today?

and you say walls makes good neighbors? LOL>

and merlin is not talking about mexicans comming across the border.

Nor am I.

yet you seem not to see the porous nature of our nothern border where
the first group crossed over to get to the planes in the first place.
had we applied the rules back then that we say we are using now we
would have stopped those men before they got on planes.

all the security you speak about here, is busy stuff to keep the public
active and worried and still do nothing in general. the security used
to be colors they spouted to warn us, well where is that warning system
now? they stopped using it after the last elections didn't they 2
years ago?

the entire electrical network in america needs an upgrade we can't
afford not to
do and can't afford to do.

All the more reason to keep them busy in their own backyard.

there is no backyard.

Yet they are stuck in theirs !

who are you talking about? yes there are iraqi terrorist in iraq,
there are london terrrorists in london, there are madrid terrorists in
madrid there are even new dehli terrorists in new dehli, so which group
or terrorist are you talking about when you say there are no terrorists
in america?

the world is their stage. tho the violence in
iraq is local. the violence in iraq is between reglious factions in
iraq not just people comming in from the outside. and the practice
everyone is getting and the confidence they are building from the
inability of america to stablize anything. this whole affair weakens
america and make people see us as more vulenerable and easier to
attack.

Yeah that must be why no such attacks are happening :-)

so don't prepare? gawd will the world end soon enough?

the great america at it's knees to a couple of terrorists is not a good
place to be.

So why do you want them to have the free time to be able to come here ?

who are you talking about comming here?

all the nuclear power plants need more security.

All the more reason to keep them busy in their own backyard.

how do you see them being kept busy? killing each other?

Exactly !

it's a fanatasy. these guys don't need to call anywhere home. you can
get into a cab in nyc and meet a guy that just got off the plane from
the middle east who had been working in another country as a truck
driver in the middle east before he decides to come to nyc and be a cab
driver..... so he is in the states one week and is driving a
cab......... that happens.

and can happen anywhere in america.

don't think so. they are creating networks and working relationships
that
can be
moved to any theatre of violence they so choose.

If the Democrats

this is not political. stop making it a political thing. it is
dangerous to talk in terms of political parties when dealing with
terrorism, cause what you saying is we need to get rid of democracy to
save america.

give them the free time to be able to do so, this may well
become a reality, but for now, they are kept occupide at home (over
there)

you have just condemned yourself by making all this about politically
parties and not about practicle things american could do to protect the
father/mudder land.

what do you feel safer at glenn?

I feel safer while they are kept busy in their own back yard.

this is scary.

Can't see how being safe is "scary"

it is your belief system that is scary, cause you not basing anything
you say on reality.

We are safe, everything is inspected

you sound like a parrot.

So do you.

where is merlin being a parrot? merlin says you are parrot for your
friendly happy quotable learned messages about your safety. you are
not repeating slogans not discussing someone's real worries.

why do you see merlin as aparrot of someone else's words? show us
where merlin is parroting someone.

Anything can happen, even with the very best security in opperation,

we don'thave the best money can buy.

Your arguments are getting weak.

getting tired of your phony happy face when it comes to all our
personal safety.

but it far less likely while the terrorists aren't here, because they
are
too busy
at home.

this is not answering any questions are waylaying any fears.

Unlike you, I lack your unneccessary paranoia. I am very safe.

good for you, now what about the rest of us?

america is turning into a country of 'i got mine' you can find your
own. this post is a mememe post about your wonderful safe life while
even one of us feels unsafe taking subway to work everyday and walking
next to the empire state building even with all the cop cars out front.

what's the tallest building where you live or work? who close do you
ever get to a large economic centered that might be threatened as all
of nyc feels threatened?

this is making merlin feel more creepy as this propaganda styled
response
to
our safety does not make us safe.

Nor does your liberal propaganda evidently.

this is not a political complaint. our personal social and public
safety is paramount, our need to discuss safety and future plans is
important, yet it isnot happening and that is on purpose to leave us
all out. what is liberal about discussing real safety?

please glenn, list some of the policies that make you feel safe. list
what you feel is making us safe in your eyes.

I know, because they atre too busy protecting themselves at home.

you are lumping them into one pile. it isn't the great them. it is a
group of individuals set on violence and as we have seen in europe they
can be middle class school kids pissed at the government too.

Europe is too soft on them,

who is them? when we have child gun men in american schools killing
people cause our schools can't develope safety procedures.

so they get what they allow to happen to
themselves. These Fanatics Moslems are mostly in the middle-east.

. they can create havoc is all.

Thanks to our War On Terrorism.

it isn't a war,

More liberal non-sense, it is a war.

where? what war you talking about? are we fighting for or against the
iraqi peoples?

so what is a liberal? you calling merlin a homosexual lover? what
with the insults glenn?

that is the phoney part, by elevating this struggle to
war, you elevated the importance of seldom done tho terrible incidence.

When you get the chance watch The Road To 911

nope.

this declaring war on terrorism is a big mistake.

It is the only logical choice.

we are not talking about logical people. you are fighting nasty people
logic? and nice things to say about your safety while others worry?

rather than just secure our travel we choose to declare war?

We have done both.

where have we done this? name something that is better now then before
9/11.

that will not solve anything in the long run as this phoney war has not
solved one problem
yet.

Nor will it if you and yours have your way and pull the troops out.

you are accussing merlin of talking military stragedy? LOL. you are
blaming merlin for the war?
you have already called merlin a homosexaul lover how much worse can
you get?

Scared of what ? They aren't *here*, we have them trapped *over there*

who is trapped? people are traveling

But they aren't able to get here.

who is trapped? the borders of iraq have never been protected since we
took over the country. the border is so porous at least 100 people a
day can cross and join the fighting.

When Terrorism is proven ineffective, and is no longer used as a
weapon
of
change.

bush can arrest people for any reason he makes up and torture
them. this is not america tho it be american gulag.

Security has a price.

your personal freedom is the price for security?

Any security is a loss of freedom, freedom is a total lack of security,
as
everything is allowed...

when we put our heads together we can come up with a better security
plan then can't we? one that does not take our rights away? one that
works with us to keep our rights while we get better protection? it is
not safer to loose our freedom for security, ask any one who ever had a
family member that was enslaved. you would never choose slavery for
yourself to feel safe when a big daddy type comes to tell you you are
safe under big daddy's wing?

You can't have total freedom, or total security.

you can't have a democracy when there are no personal rights for
everyone.

But if you are dead, freedom is worthless

people have died to make your freedoms work. people have died
defending the same freedoms you give up so easily.

you giving away every citizen in america's rights away make you feel
safer?

Until terrorism is defeated ?

when did power ever give up power without a fight? when you give up
democracy for safety who is safe?

YES

have you ever been arrested or held against your will? have you ever
been taken into custody wrongly and had to wait for it to get
straightened out before you were released? it isn't any fun.

We have been under marchal law many times in our history,

we haven't, the country has. and most acts of that kind were deemed
unconstitutional after the fact.

and once the
crises was over, freedom returned,

lol tell that to the japanese americans that lost everything during
world war two cause they were sent to concentration camps. tell that
to the american indians as they fight today to regain some of the land
lost over the last 300 years.

I have faith in the American People,

they are not leading us.

when
the emergency has passed, the freedom will return.

merlin has been a tenant organizer in nyc for many years. it is
amazing to watch the new people comming to nyc that don't care about
tenant rights for everyone and only care about themselves. watch laws
change that protect the poor while the rich just keep getting richer.

for anything that happens to anyone under the flag of the united states
will ulitmately happen to us. every evil our apponents did during ww2
was visited back on the citizenery in bombings imprisonment and poverty
during and after the war. we cannot escape the monster the monster we
are making, it will turn on us.

We didn't make the monster we are fighting.

yes we did. we used to pay osama to fight the russians in afganistan,
did you know that? we used to funnel money to osama during the russian
occupation. that helped begin is operations.

I sleep peacefully every night knowing I am safe from the terrorists,
so
far
anyway... as Bush seems to be getting cold feet.

he is doing unconstitutional things.

Actually, no, he isn't,

the supreme court has ruled that he as honey.

the Constitutions allows these things in times of
crises,

no they don't allow much of what is happening. that is why bush is
worried and had congress change the rules on holding prisoners. every
dictator that has done what bush has done has been brought up on war
crimes later.

such is why the libbers calls for impeachment falls on deaf ears.

here you go with the i hate gays speach again. anyone that calls
someone a liberal is using the world as others use the homosexaul and
gay as liberal concept.

your insult is that great and deep. as you call merlin a homosexaul
lover. as merlin has been called a lover of many minorities in the
past in a negative way.

he is breaking the law, and merlin expects him to be brought up on war
crimes in the next 10
years for the laws he has broken.

Jesus will come first :-)

jesus said he would not come again. that the one that sent him will
come, and that person is here now glenn, have been waiting for you to
find that person. as your whole demeanor would change.

when the government ignores the constitution nothing is safe in
america.

I am safe, so are my cats.

yes make your world safe for you. this is your selfish response, glenn
is fine so no one else need worry?

I can't help it that you are worried about *nothing* !

you have not lived thru a terrorist attack glenn. you have not watched
out your window while three thousand people perished before your eyes
in your own home town. when that happens to you, you see safety in a
different light.

yes we need to find out what needs
to be done and not be like birds with our heads buried in the sand.

Then pull your head out of the sand...

it isn't in the sand glenn. merlin is sadly reading every ginoistic
insult you can sling.

How do you breath with your head
buried like that ??

another insult? this goes along with the other insults above?

how do these insults help a fellow traveler feel any safer in your
world?

yes we need find out where we are vulnerable even, and yet we get none
of this from glenn nor george bush.

George Bush isn't the issue,

yes glenn, gb is the one not giving us security for our hard earned
money he is spending.

our security is.
(These idiots are so blinded by their hate for Bush, that the have lost
touch with reality)

who you calling an idiot now glenn? merlin never realized how
insulting and mean you are. merlin never thought you would use the 'L'
word either. sad.

we need better protection for the money we are borrowing to fight in
iraq.

we have a president that is breaking the laws and you feel safer
for
it?
LOL>

He isn't breaking any laws. But yes, I feel very safe !

he is breaking the constitution the surpreme court even said.

Sure, that must be why he hasn't been impeached :-)

cause the repubs contol everything. and are not watching out for
interest. there has been no review of the war spending. the repubs
have elimitated the entire review process.

he is breaking international laws and will be held in account someday
for
that. and go ahead and say you feel safe while a brother is telling
you we are not safe.

My eyes are open, but yours are closed by propaganda.

you are the one spouting insults at merlin. merlin is saying what he
sees and what is in his heart about these matters, you are insulting
and belittling someone to prove yourself right?

your jingoisms are not comforting when facts are
needed to improve our security.

My grandpa used to say "If it ain't broken, there is no need to fix it"

look around america is broken. new orleans is broken. the economy is
broken for the poor. one of the major problems with building in
houston is the lack of codes.

in love,

merlin

taking people's rights away might make you more afraid than less glenn.

Not at all, I obey,

wish you would take jesus teachings to heart and obey them. for jesus
once said do onto others as you would have them do onto you. merlin
refuses to insult you back glenn, merlin refuses to demean you back
glenn.

and agree with the law, and thus have nothing to fear.

a critical eye would be a good investment about right now glenn.

But I can understand your fear

Glenn

concern for others is important.

in love with the living jesus.

merlin