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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"
Date: 22 Jun 2005 11:11:42 AM
Object: Re: Saved people in hell?
The name of the newsgroup, should, and does for many of us, say it all,
"alt" means unmoderated (originally used to say that it was an alternitive
to an existing moderated group), and thus without "posting guidelines",
meaning that any claimed "posting guidelines" can be totally *ignored*.
"christnet" points to the family newsgroups it has joined
"christianlife" tells us that the group is *open* to **ANYTHING** and
**EVERYTHING** that *might* and / or *is* EXPERIENCED IN CHRISTIAN LIFE,
this includes...
dealing with, and confronting *non-christians* (thus welcomes the same into
the group);
dealing with Christians (all groups / churches / sects / cults which *think*
themselves to be Christians) which disagree with whatever other Christians
may believe;
dealing with the needs of prayer, help, encouragement, and / or reproof
the giving of testimonies, witnessing
the politics of life which relates in most anyway to living as a Christian
family life
ETC.
"Griz" <griz@cois.no-no.on.ca> wrote in message
news:10urclp2gq5sbf0@corp.supernews.com...

Rowland said:

After all (as I'll be saying - but without names - in a workshop in an
American conference in a couple of months) people trying to establish a
church on a Usenet newsgroup with some 'in' and others 'preferred out' has
not ever happened before, to my knowledge. It was simply a matter of
noting
that phenomenon that motivated those articles on our website...


Actually Rowland, the process was like this:

We had a group of people that wished to help others as they walked towards
Christ. And for a while the ministry was working. In time however,
others
came along who had no interest in this process and even proceeded to work
against it in any an all ways that came to mind. The 'ins' were simply
those who wished to be a part. The 'preferred outs' were those who didn't
and who's constant efforts to the contrary were becoming significant
stumbing blocks to some.
Perhaps you only became aware of the process after several of us had
regrettably, stepped outside of our original purpose to try to deal with
the
few loudest dissemblers? The focus was temporarily lost because so much
time was spent coming against those who clearly wanted no part of what was
happening.

Maybe rather than focussing on the 'ins' and 'preferred outs' that it
degraded into (which simply started as a means to deal with those who's
only
ministry was opposition), you could focus on the original theme we were
reaching for, as stated in the ACC posting guidelines?
Why focus on were it stepped outside of Christ, when our collective focus
should be Christ?

Yours in Christ,

Griz


.

User: "Mark T wh@tfunwithfundies0128"

Title: Re: Saved people in hell? 22 Jun 2005 06:22:19 PM
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" wrote:

The name of the newsgroup, should, and does for many of us, say it all,

"alt" means unmoderated (originally used to say that it was an alternitive
to an existing moderated group), and thus without "posting guidelines",
meaning that any claimed "posting guidelines" can be totally *ignored*.

"christnet" points to the family newsgroups it has joined

"christianlife" tells us that the group is *open* to **ANYTHING** and
**EVERYTHING** that *might* and / or *is* EXPERIENCED IN CHRISTIAN LIFE,
this includes...

dealing with, and confronting *non-christians* (thus welcomes the same
into the group);

dealing with Christians (all groups / churches / sects / cults which
*think* themselves to be Christians) which disagree with whatever other
Christians may believe;

dealing with the needs of prayer, help, encouragement, and / or reproof

the giving of testimonies, witnessing

the politics of life which relates in most anyway to living as a Christian

family life

ETC.

Amen!

"Griz"

Ignore the former Fuehrer's rants.
The Griz cult is dead.
Long live freedom!
.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Saved people in hell? 25 Jun 2005 11:28:37 AM
Thank you for agreeing with me. Forgive me, but I cannot resist posting here
why I posted this post, please see below...
"Mark T" <wh@tfunwithfundies0128> wrote in message
news:42b9f2b3@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" wrote:

The name of the newsgroup, should, and does for many of us, say it all,
"alt" means unmoderated (originally used to say that it was an
alternitive to an existing moderated group), and thus without "posting
guidelines", meaning that any claimed "posting guidelines" can be totally
*ignored*.

I was long ago, accused of breaking these invalid "guide-lines", and pretty
much ordered to take my posts elsewhere, by a certian clique within ACC,
because I shared many of my Jewish-Christian, and mystical sect. Mystical as
in secretive, so much so that to be a member of my sect one must be born
into, or married into certian family lines; and on top of that so secretive
that most doctorated theologians believe the sect long dead (gasping for its
last breath in the third century); and so much so that my own sect members
impressed on me to cease openly stating some of our somewhat controversial
beliefs; since then, I have silenced mentioning those things, and have been
pretty much been accepted by a good number of that same clique which wanted
me to leave (truth is I don't post to ACC as regularly as I used to)

"christnet" points to the family newsgroups it has joined

As I, because of some of my non-mainline Christian beliefs, was trying to
find where I would best fit in, I had made myself (unwitingly) a bit of a
troll, as I was cross-posting with every one of my posts to roughly a dozen
newsgroups{ngs} (I now regularly post to only three;
alt.bible,alt.christnet,alt.christnet.bible), most but not all being in the
"christnet family", after cutting them down to only the family(which brought
the number down to 8 / 9 ngs), I was still irritated at being told
consistantly *STOP CROSS-POSTING* (my three remaining ngs are all within the
same family)

"christianlife" tells us that the group is *open* to **ANYTHING** and
**EVERYTHING** that *might* and / or *is* EXPERIENCED IN CHRISTIAN LIFE,
this includes...

dealing with, and confronting *non-christians* (thus welcomes the same
into the group);

As my sect holds to some beliefs which can be seen as "Gnostic", that
forementioned clique kept asking (sometimes ordering) me to post elsewhere.

dealing with Christians (all groups / churches / sects / cults which
*think* themselves to be Christians) which disagree with whatever other
Christians may believe;

I was also oft accused of "lying" about being a Christian ! Which was a bit
unsettling, to say the least.

dealing with the needs of prayer, help, encouragement, and / or reproof

the giving of testimonies, witnessing

the politics of life which relates in most anyway to living as a
Christian

family life

ETC.


Amen!


"Griz"


Ignore the former Fuehrer's rants. The Griz cult is dead.

The clique I was talking about.

Long live freedom!

Amen !!
.



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