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Should We Blame Islam?

Today the editor of the Washingtom Times issued a mild admonishment to
President Bush for calling Islam, "a religion of peace." He said before we
do that Islam must, "look and sound like a religion of peace."
Looking back on the violent history of Christianity might be helpful in
gaining some perspective on what's happening to Islam. It would be easy to
characterize the Christian Crusaders and the Conqistators as terrorists

and

the Spanish Inquisition under the Spanish crown was truly a reign of

terror

for heretics and Jews. Indeed, there are many other historical examples of
what could be described as Christian terrorism but most Christians believe
that the foundation of their their faith is peace and love.
Christianity and Islam are both "religions of peace" that provide a moral
justification for violence and "just war." And as I see it, the root of

all

terrorism is the tension between Islam and Christianity and nationalism is
just the catalyst for that tension to explode into a cultural war that

will

divide the world for the rest of this century.
I never thought I could say such a thing, but maybe the war against
terrorism should really be a war against religion.
More: http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=905

You need to show some scriptural evidence in order to justify "making
war" against of religions and their source literature. For one, you could
lobby to compel Christians to remove the OT from their Bibles, for there is
no religious literature in the world, that founded a religion, as horrific
as the one founding Judaism. See below cause and consequence. There are too
many Christians who will justify their inhumanity to man with OT passages.
Consequently, the world's civilian death toll caused by the USA is far
larger than any other country, and their justification rests solely on the
OT, not on Christian ones.
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded them to "kill all
that breatheth", to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have not sown",
resulting in the below holocaust.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country, and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.
.

User: "Lazarus Cain"
Title: Re: Should We Blame Islam?	19 Sep 2004 11:20:55 AM

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and

the Spanish Inquisition under the Spanish crown was truly a reign of

terror

all

terrorism is the tension between Islam and Christianity and nationalism is
just the catalyst for that tension to explode into a cultural war that

will

You need to show some scriptural evidence in order to justify "making
war" against of religions and their source literature. For one, you could
lobby to compel Christians to remove the OT from their Bibles, for there is
no religious literature in the world, that founded a religion, as horrific
as the one founding Judaism. See below cause and consequence. There are too
many Christians who will justify their inhumanity to man with OT passages.
Consequently, the world's civilian death toll caused by the USA is far
larger than any other country, and their justification rests solely on the
OT, not on Christian ones.

Pastor Frank

CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded them to "kill all
that breatheth", to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have not sown",
resulting in the below holocaust.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country, and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.

PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.

Dear Pastor Frank,
It is amazing how you have so succesfully hit the nail on the head.
I am currently involved with this very same mission in the very same
sense you are talking.
Berar in mind , that in those days sinners will remain sinning, but
the Son of Man will come like a thief.
I am so very deeply involved in the very subject matter you are
discussing that is not even funny.
So in your case, be aware that this is the call for the endurance of
the saints and you, I recognize as a fair witness to our true God,
even though for you it makes nothing but absolute sense. to be that
way.
The blind will still not be able to see this perfect logic.
Lazarus Cain
.

User: "Pastor Fank"
Title: Re: Should We Blame Islam?	19 Sep 2004 07:07:25 PM

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Should We Blame Islam?

Today the editor of the Washingtom Times issued a mild admonishment to
President Bush for calling Islam, "a religion of peace." He said

before we

do that Islam must, "look and sound like a religion of peace."
Looking back on the violent history of Christianity might be helpful

gaining some perspective on what's happening to Islam. It would be

easy to

characterize the Christian Crusaders and the Conqistators as

terrorists

and

the Spanish Inquisition under the Spanish crown was truly a reign of

terror

for heretics and Jews. Indeed, there are many other historical

examples of

what could be described as Christian terrorism but most Christians

believe

that the foundation of their their faith is peace and love.
Christianity and Islam are both "religions of peace" that provide a

moral

justification for violence and "just war." And as I see it, the root

all

terrorism is the tension between Islam and Christianity and

nationalism is

just the catalyst for that tension to explode into a cultural war that

will

You need to show some scriptural evidence in order to justify

"making

war" against of religions and their source literature. For one, you

could

lobby to compel Christians to remove the OT from their Bibles, for there

no religious literature in the world, that founded a religion, as

horrific

as the one founding Judaism. See below cause and consequence. There are

too

many Christians who will justify their inhumanity to man with OT

passages.

Consequently, the world's civilian death toll caused by the USA is far
larger than any other country, and their justification rests solely on

the

OT, not on Christian ones.

Pastor Frank

CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised

land",

as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian

natives.

The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the

Jews,

YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded them to "kill all
that breatheth", to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have not

sown",

resulting in the below holocaust.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the

Lord

thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and

the

Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the

Jebusites

as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill

the

valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains

with

your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye

shall

not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men

and

maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land

you're

about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country,

and

the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he

left

none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the

God

of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy

all

that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman,

infant

and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces

before

their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be

dashed

in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with

him.

But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.

PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the

abomination

above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive

scale)

2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the

night; in

the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the

elements

shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are

therein

shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements

shall

melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing

out

of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give

suck in

those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on

the

sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh

saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains,

Fall

on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the

name

of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to

give

him glory.

Glad you are in agreement, that there is no reason EVER, not even
commands by any god, to be inhumane to anyone. Like the Mennonite
Christians say: It's better that I and mine should be killed, than that we
should do harm to our enemy, even to harming a single hair on our enemy's
head. Now THAT is REAL faith, and I at least stand an awe. I hope you will
keep testifying Christ to a lost world, for presently I am merely a lone
voice here "crying in the wilderness".(Mk 1:3)
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded them to "kill all
that breatheth", to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have not sown",
resulting in the below holocaust.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country, and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.
.

User: "Aaron"
Title: Re: Should We Blame Islam?	16 Sep 2004 10:19:08 PM

On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 14:11:12 -0400, "Pastor Frank" <PF@Christfirst.com>
wrote:
The Threat of Moderate Islam
With what has happened in New York and Washington, I have been shocked
that Christians are still unaware of the danger posed by Islam.
Most Christian Americans try to evaluate the Muslim by Christian
standards. Muslim standards are very different from American
standards.
Many people are confused about Islam. This makes sense because
Muslims are making conflicting statements about their religion. Our
own
news media makes references to "Muslim Extremists" without ever
checking to find out what a Moderate Muslim believes. The only way to
know what they really believe is to check the Koran (their "holy"
book).
I researched in the Koran. I found many verses that are very
disturbing. I was so profoundly troubled by the viciousness of the
hatred found in
the Koran, that I feel compelled to explain the danger to others.
Let me share with you some passages from the Koran that explain the
Muslim's motivations behind the bombings, and the attack of September
11TH. There is also part of a Friday sermon from a mainstream Islamic
religious leader, which explains how they interpret the verses cited,
and
will help you to understand how the Koran shapes the thinking of a
Muslim.

Sura 9, Verse 30
"The Jews said, "Ezra is the son of
GOD," while the Christians said,
"Jesus is the son of GOD!" These
are blasphemies uttered by their
mouths. They thus match the
blasphemies of those who have
disbelieved in the past. Allah condemns them.
They have surely deviated."
Sura 9, Verse 36
"The count of months, as far as
Allah is concerned, is twelve. This
has been Allah's law, since the day
He created the heavens and the
earth. Four of them are sacred.
This is the perfect religion; you shall
not wrong your souls (by fighting)
during the Sacred Months. However,
you may declare all-out Jihad against
the idol worshipers (even during the
Sacred Months), when they declare
jihad against you, and know that
Allah is on the side of the righteous."
(A previous verse (9:30) defines Christians and Messianic Jews as Idol
worshipers. It should also be noted that the Koran teaches that all
Jews
and Christians who are aware of Islam are at "Jihad" with "Allah," and
by extension the Muslims, based on the fact that Jews and Christians
exist
and refuse to convert to Islam. Jews, Christians and Muslims are
referred to as "People of Scripture" in the Koran because all three
religions
received Scripture. Jews and Christians are thought of as living
blasphemies for not becoming Muslim.)

The next passage tells that Jews and Christians cannot be friends of
Muslims unless they accept the validity of Islam. To put it more
directly if a
Jew or Christian is religious and believes that Judaism or
Christianity is true and thus better than Islam, he is an enemy of the
Muslims.
Sura 5, verse 51:
"O you who believe, do not take certain Jews and Christians as allies;
these are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves
with these belong with them. Allah does not guide the transgressors."
Verse 57 explains the word "certain."
Sura 5, verse 57:
"O you who believe, do not befriend those among the recipients
of previous scripture who mock and ridicule your religion,
nor shall you befriend the disbelievers (in this Holy Quran).
You shall reverence Allah, if you are really believers."
(A Christian or Jew who refuses to convert to Islam is effectively
mocking Islam and claiming that Christianity or Judaism is superior to
Islam.
Note: the parenthetical specification is a Muslim addition, found in
the translation of the Koran that I used, it is not my addition.)
The next passage tells of what a Muslim is allowed to do to anyone
whom they encounter who does not believe in the Koran, and the rewards
for
those who die thus serving "Allah." Verse 4 is particularly sick;
apparently, "Allah" wants people to fight in his name. The Sura
discusses the end
of the world and the war between "Allah" and the "evil" non-Muslims.
Sura 47, verses 2-6
"2. Those who believe and work righteousness, and believe in what was
sent down to Muhammad - which is the truth from their Lord - He
remits their sins, and blesses them with contentment.
3. This is because those who disbelieve are following falsehood, while
those who believe are following the truth from their Lord. Allah thus
cites
for the people their examples.
4. If you encounter those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks.
If you take them as captives you may set them free or ransom them,
until
the war ends. Had Allah willed, He could have granted you victory,
without war. But He thus tests you by one another. As for those who
get
killed in the cause of Allah, He will never put their sacrifice to
waste.
5. He will guide them, and bless them with contentment.
6. He will admit them into Paradise, that He described to them."
How could any Christian think that the Muslims are not dedicated to
the murder of all Christians and Jews? The only answer is:
"ignorance!" If
Christians, and all Americans were aware of the evil of Islam, we
would be a lot safer! We would be able to stop is Racist,
totalitarian enemy
before events like September 11TH occur.
Sura 3, Verse 82:
"Those who reject this (Quranic prophecy) are the evil ones."
NOTE: The parenthetical specification was in the translation of the
Koran that I used, not my own addition.
This verse goes beyond simply claiming that Islam is superior to other
religions. All religious people believe that their
religion/sect/denomination is
in some way better than others, but very few condemn all other faiths
as "evil." Since the Koran gives the Muslim permission to do horrible
things to the "evil people," it is important to see that these "evil
people" are all non-Muslims.

Sura 47, verses 2-6
"2. Those who believe and work righteousness, and believe in what was
sent down to Muhammad - which is the truth from their Lord - He remits
their sins, and blesses them with contentment.
3. This is because those who disbelieve
are following falsehood, while those
who believe are following the truth
from their Lord. Allah thus cites for
the people their examples.
4. If you encounter those who
disbelieve, you may strike the necks.
If you take them as captives you may
set them free or ransom them, until
the Jihad ends. Had Allah willed, He
could have granted you victory, with-
out war. But He thus tests you by
one another. As for those who get
killed in the cause of Allah, He will
never put their sacrifice to waste.
5. He will guide them, and bless them
with contentment.
6. He will admit them into Paradise,
that He described to them."
In the following passage, there is more denouncing belief in the
divine nature of Yshua. As the text continues, the Koran claims that
at the final
judgment Yshua will be the Accuser who condemns all Christians to
damnation for not becoming Muslim.
Sura 4, verses 157-159.
"157. And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus,
son of Mary, the messenger of Allah. In fact,
they never killed him, they never
crucified him-they were made to think that they did.
All factions who are disputing in
this matter are full of doubt
concerning this issue. They possess
no knowledge; they only conjecture.
For certain, they never killed him.
158. Instead, Allah raised him to Him;
Allah is Almighty, Most Wise.
159. Everyone among the people of
the scripture was required to
believe in him before his death.
On the Day of Resurrection, he
will be a witness against them."
Of course there are many verses that make the usual Islamic claim that
all Christians (All who believe in the divinity of the Messiah) are
idol-worshipers.

How do these verses effect the actions of the Muslims?
They have prompted the Arab invasion of Israel. These invaders call
themselves "palestinian" and claim that they were displaced from
Israel in
1948. Historically Israel was 60% Jewish in 1920 under the British
occupancy of Israel, before Jewish immigration back to Israel began.
The following excerpts, broadcasted on PA TV, are from the Friday
sermon [August 3, 2001] given by Sheik Ibrahim Madhi at the Sheik
'Ijlin
Mosque in Gaza:
"Let the Mujaheedin saturate this blessed land with their pure and
untainted blood. Then, the Jews will see miracles from us."
"A young man said to me: 'I am 14 years old, and I have four years
left before I blow myself up amongst the Jews.' I said to him: Oh
son, I ask
Allah to give you and myself Martyrdom...'"
"The Koran is very clear on this: 'The greatest enemies of the Islamic
nation are the Jews, may Allah fight them...'"
"Whoever can fight them with his weapons, should go out [to the
battle]; whoever can fight them with a machine-gun, should go out;
whoever
can fight them with a sword or a knife, should go out; whoever can
fight them with his hands, should go out; This is our destiny."
"We blow them up in Hadera, we blow them up in Tel Aviv and in
Netanya, and in this way, Allah establishes us as rulers over these
gangs of
vagabonds."
"In several years, Allah willing, we will enter Jerusalem as
conquerors, to Jaffa as conquerors. To Haifa as conquerors, to
Ashkelon as
conquerors. We are certain that victory is near..."
"Blessings for whoever assaulted a soldier... Blessings for whoever
has raised his sons on the education of Jihad and Martyrdom;
blessings for
whoever has saved a bullet in order to stick it in a Jew's head..."
This is what passes for an "uplifting" message in the Mosque.
Christians and Jews worship the same God. Some Jews do not
acknowledge the Messiah - some do, but we all understand the morality
taught by
God. The God of the Bible is defined by His personality, His love,
His ethics, and His perfection. The "Allah" of the Koran is shown to
lie to
the Jews, make a mistake about sending Jesus who was incompetent
according to the Koran (They claim that His mission was to convert all
humanity to Islam), and who promotes violence against people who do
not worship him. The Koran says that "Allah" dissolved the covenants
made with the Jews and with the Christians. The "Allah" of Islam is
NOT the God of Judaism and Christianity.

Sura 5, Verses 12-14
"12. Allah had taken a covenant
from the Children of Israel,
and we raised among them twelve
patriarchs. And Allah said,
"I am with you, so long as you
observe the Contact Prayers (Salat),
give the obligatory charity (Zakat),
and believe in My messengers and
respect them, and continue to lend
Allah a loan of righteousness.
I will then remit your sins,
and admit you into gardens with
flowing streams. Anyone who
disbelieves after this, has indeed
strayed off the right path.
[CENTER] Consequences of Violating God's Covenant
13. It was a consequence of their
violating the covenant that we
condemned them, and we caused their hearts
to become hardened. Consequently,
they took the words out of context,
and disregarded some of the commandments
given to them. You will continue to witness
betrayal from them, excepting a few of them.
You shall pardon them, and disregard them.
Allah loves those who are benevolent."
Note that Allah must be bribed with favors in order to keep his word,
But God keeps His word even if all mankind become liars. Also notice
that
only Jews who abandon belief in God and accept Islam may be forgiven
for being born Jewish.

"[CENTER] Christians, too, Must Obey Allah's Messenger [Muhammad]
14. Also from those who said, "We are Christian,"
we took their covenant.
But they disregarded some of
the commandments given to them.
Consequently, we condemned them
to animosity and hatred among themselves,
until the Day of Resurrection.
Allah will then inform them
of everything they had done."
So, according to the Koran both Christianity and Judaism have been
abolished by Allah.

The Koran breaks up humanity in two ways:
Spiritually: "The People of Scripture" (Jews Christians and Muslims),
and the "People without Scripture" (everyone else). Physically: "the
Children of Abraham" (Jews and Arabs), and the "Other Peoples"
(Everyone else).
According to the Koran a person who has a reason for becoming Islamic
and does not convert to Islam is a walking blasphemy and an idolater.
By their breakdown of humanity, Jews have two reasons for converting
to Islam and Christians have one. Thus Jews are their first target,
and
Christians are their second target
Adolf Hitler lost WWII because he made war on too many of his targets
at the same time. The Muslims have been more clever; they are taking
their targets one at a time. We must realize the danger and protect
our selves from further terrorist attacks.
All Christians and Jews must stand together against those who would
take away our freedom to worship the
One True God.

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User: "Frank & Esther Schierenberg"
Title: Re: Should We Blame Islam?	21 Sep 2004 03:52:56 AM

"Aaron" <anon@home.net> wrote in message
news:vllkk0he78p5438a9kpf70dn9vch002qqf@4ax.com...

Sure are. Many of them justify the unjustifiable like you do. See below
cause and consequence.
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded them to "kill all
that breatheth", to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have not sown",
resulting in the below holocaust.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country, and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.
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User: "Roy Jose Lorr"
Title: Re: Should We Blame Islam?	21 Sep 2004 10:09:06 AM

Frank & Esther Schierenberg wrote:

"Aaron" <anon@home.net> wrote in message
news:vllkk0he78p5438a9kpf70dn9vch002qqf@4ax.com...

Sure are. Many of them justify the unjustifiable like you do. See below
cause and consequence.

Sparing a mortal enemy like you'd like to do is unjustifiable immorality.

--
The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.
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User: "Icarus"
Title: Re: Should We Blame Islam?	17 Sep 2004 05:59:54 AM

Aaron wrote:

Good stuff, Aaron. I'll help out your anti-religion campaign by
pointing out some of the viciousness and hatred in the Bible too
(with thanks to the Skeptic's Annotated Bible at
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/):
Genesis:
God punishes Eve, and all women after her, with the pains of
childbirth and subjection to men. 3:16
God likes Abel's dead animals better than Cain's fruits and
vegetables. Why? Well, no reason is given, but it probably has
something to do with the amount of pain, blood, and gore
involved. 4:3-5
God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping
things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life."
He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17
God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ...
from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the
innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It
seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4
God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to
koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God
drowned them all. 7:21-23
"Into your hand are they (the animals) delivered." God gave the
animals to humans, and they can do whatever they please with
them. This verse has been used by bible believers to justify all
kinds of cruelty to anmials and environmental destruction. 9:2
The "just and righteous" Noah (6:9, 7:1) plants a vineyard, gets
drunk, and lies around naked in his tent. His son, Ham, happens
to see his father in this condition. When Noah sobers up and
hears "what his young son had done unto him" (what did he do
besides look at him?), he curses not Ham, who "saw the nakedness
of his father," but Ham's son, Canaan. "A servant of servants
shall he [Canaan] be unto his brethren." This is a typical case
of biblical justice, and is one of many Bible passages that have
been used to justify slavery. 9:20-25
God sends a plague on the Pharaoh and his household because the
Pharaoh believed Abram's lie. 12:17
Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to
Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her,
she fled." 16:6
The angel tells Hagar to return and submit to her abusive
owner,Sarai. 16:8-9
God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan
"forever". This promise is still used to justify the the unending
battles over the land in the Middle East. 13:14-15, 17:8
God tells Abram that all males must be circumcised, even those
whom Abram had bought with money. There isn't the slightest
evidence in this passage, or in any other in the Bible, that the
biblical God disapproves of slavery. 17:12-13, 23, 27
Abraham begs God not to kill everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah.
[Which is odd, since later (Gen.22:2-10) Abraham doesn't even
question God's request that he kill his own son.] asks God two
good questions: "Wilt thou destroy the righteous with the
wicked?" and "Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?"
18:23-25
Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering
his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel
rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes."
This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2
Pet.2:7-8. 19:8
God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in
Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord
out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and
righteous" Lot and his family.19:24
Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar
of salt. 19:26
God gets angry with king Abimelech, though the king hasn't even
touched Sarah. He says to the king, "Behold, thou art but a dead
man," and threatens to kill him and all of his people. To
compensate for the crime he never committed, Abimelech gives
Abraham sheep, oxen, slaves, silver, and land. Finally, after
Abraham "prayed unto God," God lifts his punishment to Abimelech,
"for the Lord had fast closed up all the wombs of the house of
Abimelech, because of Sarah." 20:3-18
Sarah, after giving birth to Isaac, gets angry again at Hagar
(see Gen.16:5-6) and tells Abraham to 'cast out this bondwoman
and her son." God commands Abraham to "hearken unto her voice."
So Abraham abandons Hagar and Ishmael, casting them out into the
wilderness to die. 21:10-14
God orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham
shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But
finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat
to kill instead. 22:2-13
God blessed Abraham by giving him lots of slaves. 24:35
God blessed Isaac (like his father Abraham before him) with many
slaves. 26:12-14
Jacob, with coaching from his mother, obtains Isaac's blessing by
lying. God seems to have been fooled as well. 27:19
Jacob offers to work for seven years to pay for Rachel. As it
turns out, he is tricked into having sex with her sister, Leah,
instead, so he has to work for another seven years so in order to
pay for them both. 29:18-30
As part of the deal with Jacob, Zilpah and Bilhah (Laban's
slaves) are handed over to Leah and Rachel. 29:24, 29
Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to
love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town
and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and then
take their wives and children captive. 34:1-31
"The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about
them." I don't know what the "terror of God" is, but I'll bet it
isn't pleasant. 35:5
"And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord;
and the Lord slew him." What did Er do to elicit God's wrath? The
Bible doesn't say. Maybe he picked up some sticks on Saturday.
38:7
After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto they
brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his;
and ... when he went in unto his brother's wife ... he spilled it
on the ground.... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord;
wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom
read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian
doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and
birth control. 38:8-10
After Judah pays Tamar for her services, he is told that she
"played the harlot" and "is with child by whoredom." When Judah
hears this, he says, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt."
38:24
Exodus
Moses murders an Egyptian after making sure that no one is
looking. 2:11
Why are some people born with disabilities? Because God
deliberately makes them that way. 4:11
God begins the process of "hardening Pharaoh's heart", thus
making it impossible for any of the plagues that God sends to
have any beneficial effect. 4:21
(see also Ex.7:3, 13, 9:12, 10:1, 20, 27, 11:10, 14:4, 8)
"And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD." Who else could
be so cruel and unjust? 7:5, 17
God threatens to kill the Pharaoh's firstborn son. 4:23
God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been
circumcised. 4:24-26
God will make sure that Pharaoh does not listen to Moses, so that
he can kill Egyptians with his armies. 7:4
God tells Moses and Aaron to smite the river and turn it into
blood. This is the first of the famous 10 plagues of Egypt.
7:17-24
The fifth plague: all cattle in Egypt die. 9:2-6
The sixth plague: boils and blains upon man and beast. 9:9-12
"For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart,
and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know
that there is none like me in all the earth." Who else but the
biblical god could be so cruel? 9:14
God kills all Egyptian cattle with hail. 9:19-20
The seventh plague is hail. "And the hail smote throughout the
land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast."
9:22-25
These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent
children by God was premeditated. 11:4-6 (see 12:29-30)
God will kill the Egyptian children to show that he puts "a
difference between the Egyptians and Israel." 11:7
God explains to Moses that he intends to "smite all the firstborn
in the land of Egypt, both man and beast. 12:12
After God has sufficiently hardened the Pharaoh's heart, he kills
all the firstborn Egyptian children. When he was finished "there
was not a house where there was not one dead." Finally, he runs
out of little babies to kill, so he slaughters the firstborn
cattle, too. 12:29-30
God encourages the Israelites to steal from the Egyptians.
12:35-36
No stranger, foreigner, or uncircumcised person can eat the
passover. 12:43, 45, 48
"But every man's servant that is bought for money...." Once
again, God shows his approval of slavery. 12:44
To commemorate the divine massacre of the Egyptian children,
Moses instructs the Israelites to "sacrifice to the Lord all that
openeth the matrix" -- all the males, that is. God has no use for
dead, burnt female bodies. 13:2, 12, 15
After hardening Pharaoh's heart a few more times, God drowns
Pharaoh's army in the sea 14:4-28
God favors Israelites "above all people." 19:5
Any person or animal that touches Mt. Sinai shall be stoned to
death or "shot through." Did Moses impose such severe penalties
because he feared that someone might see him fake his meeting
with God? 19:12-13
"I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of
the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth
generation." Any god that would make such a statement is worse
than jealous, although that would be bad enough. He is cruel and
unjust as well. 20:5
"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ... manservant, nor his
maidservant, nor his ox, nor his *****, nor any thing that is thy
neighbour's." In the Bible, slaves (servants in the KJV) are the
rightful property of slaveowners; they are his possessions --
like an ox or an *****. 20:17
God gives instructions for killing and burning animals. He says
that if we will make such "burnt offerings," he will bless us for
it. What kind of mind would be pleased by the killing and burning
of innocent animals? 20:24
God sets down the rules regarding Hebrew slaves. You can buy one,
but you must set him free on the seventh year. But if you have
"given" him a wife and she bears children, then you get to keep
the wife and kids. If he refuses to leave his family when his
seven years are up, then bore a hole though his ear and keep him
forever. (That sounds fair!) 21:2-6
How to sell your daughter -- and what to do if she fails to
please her new master. 21:7-8
A child who hits or curses his parents must be executed. 21:15,
17
Slavery is approved by God, and those who steal slaves must be
killed. 21:16
It's OK with God if you slowly beat your slaves to death. After
all, they are your money. 21:20-21
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 21:24-25
It's okay to beat your slaves; even if they die you won't be
punished, just as long as they survive a day or two after the
beating (see verses 21:20-21). But avoid excessive damage to
their eyes or teeth. Otherwise you may have to set them free. Oh
well, it's a heck of a lot better than what would happen to you
if you did it to a non-slave. (See verses 21:24-25) 21:26-27
If an ox gores someone, then both the ox and his owner must die.
21:28
If a thief is caught and is too poor to make a complete
restitution, then he is to be sold to pay for his theft. 22:3
If you "entice" an "unmarried maid" to "lie" with you, then you
must marry her, unless the father refuses to give her to you, in
which case you must pay him the going price for virgins. 22:16
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent
women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse.
22:18
"Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death." Is
it really necessary to kill such people? Couldn't we just send
them to counseling or something? 22:19
"He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he
shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then
the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god
must be killed. 22:20
If you make God angry enough, he will kill you and your family
with his own sword. 22:24
"The firstborn of thy sons thou shalt give unto me." (As a burnt
offering?) 22:29
God promises to "send his fear before the Israelites" and to kill
everyone that they encounter when they enter the promised land.
23:27
God has hornets that bite and kill people. 23:28
Wash up or die. 30:20-21
Whoever puts holy oil on a stranger shall be "cut off from his
people." 30:33
And whoever uses God's favorite perfume will be exiled. 30:37-38
Those who break the Sabbath are to be executed. 31:14
Aaron makes a golden calf and tells the people to take off their
clothes and dance around naked. God then punishes them
mercilessly for following their divinely appointed religious
leader. 32:1-35
"And the Lord repented of the evil which he though to do unto his
people." But how could a good God even consider doing evil to
anyone? 32:14
God orders the sons of Levi (Moses, Aaron, and the other members
of their tribe that were "on the Lord's side") to kill "every man
his neighbor." "And there fell of the people that day about 3000
men." 32:27-28
But God wasn't satisfied with the slaughter of the 3000, so he
killed some more people with a plague. 32:35
God says that he visits "the iniquity of the fathers upon the
children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and
fourth generation." 34:7
God drives out the pagan tribes and commands the Israelites to
destroy their altars and places of worship. 34:11-14
If you can't redeem him, then just "break his neck." Hey, it's
all for the glory of God. 34:20
Whoever works, or even kindles a fire, on the Sabbath "shall be
put to death." 35:2-3
Leviticus
According to these verses it's possible to sin without even
knowing that you've done something wrong 5:15, 17, 6:7
Two of the sons of Aaron "offered strange fire before the Lord"
and "there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and
they died before the Lord." 10:1-2
If priests misbehave at the tabernacle by uncovering their heads,
tearing their clothes, leaving with holy oil on them, or by
drinking "wine or strong drink", then God will kill them and send
his wrath on "all the people." 10:6-9
God explains the use of scapegoats. It goes like this: Get two
goats. Kill one. Wipe, smear, and sprinkle the blood around seven
times. Then take the other goat, give it the sins of all the
people, and send it off into the wilderness. 16:6-28
If a man has sex with an engaged slave woman, scourge the woman,
but don't punish the man. (Even if he raped her?) 19:20-22
Kill anyone who "gives his seed" to Molech. If you refuse, God
will cut you and your family off. 20:2-5
Stay away from people with familiar spirits and don't "go a
whoring" after them either. 20:6
"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall surely
be put to death." Couldn't we try spanking first? 20:9
Both parties in adultery shall be executed. 20:10
"And the man that lieth with his father's wife ... both of them
shall be put to death." Which? The man and his father? The father
and his wife? Or the man and his father's wife? Oh heck, just
kill all three. 20:11
If a man "lies" with his daughter-in-law, then both must be
killed. 20:12
Homosexuals must be executed. 20:13
If you "lie" with your wife and your mother-in-law (now that
sounds fun!), then all three of your must be burned to death.
20:14
If a man or woman "lie with a beast" both the person and the poor
animal are to be killed. 20:15-16
People with "familiar spirits" are to be stoned to death. But how
can we be sure that a person's spirit is too familiar? The good
book doesn't say, it just says to kill them. 20:27
A priest's daughter who "plays the *****" is to be burned to
death. 21:9
Handicapped people cannot approach the altar of God. They would
"profane" it. 21:16-23
Anyone with a "flat nose, or any thing superfluous" must stay
away from the altar of God. 21:18
A man who is unclean, or is a leper, or has a "running issue", or
"whose seed goeth from him", or who touches any dead or "creeping
thing" ... "shall not eat of the holy things, until he be clean."
22:3-5
No stranger or slave can "eat of the holy thing." 22:10
"But if the priest buy any soul with his money ..." It must be OK
to buy slaves; even priests do it. 22:11
Don't do any work on the day of atonement or God will destroy
you. 23:29-30
A man curses and blasphemes while disputing with another man.
Moses asks God what to do about it. God says that the whole
community must stone him to death. "And the children of Israel
did as the Lord and Moses commanded." 24:10-23
Anyone who blasphemes or curses shall be stoned to death by the
entire community. 24:16
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. If we apply this rule
then we'll all wind up toothless and blind. 24:20
God's instructions for buying your brother for a slave. 25:39
God tells the Israelites to make slaves out of their neighbors.
The "heathens" and "strangers" are to be their possessions
forever. 25:44-46
God describes torments that he has planned for those who
displease him. The usual stuff: plagues, burning fevers that will
consume the eyes, etc. but he reserves the worst for the little
children. He says "ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your
enemies shall eat it", "I will send wild beasts among you, which
shall rob you of your children", and "ye shall eat the flesh of
your sons .. daughters." 26:16-39
God estimates the value of human life in dollars and cents. Of
course, to God, females are worth considerably less than males --
but neither are worth much. 27:3-7
All "devoted" things (both man and beast) "shall surely be put to
death." 27:28-29
Numbers
God displays his hospitality with the admonition: "The stranger
that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 1:51
Two of Aaron's sons are killed by God for "offering strange fire
before the Lord." 3:4
God repeats his order (see 1:51) to kill any strangers who happen
to come near. 3:10
Once again (see 1:51 and 3:10) God tells his favorite people to
kill any strangers that come near. 3:38
Don't touch or "go in to see when the holy things are covered."
God kills people who touch or look at uncovered holy things.
4:15, 4:20
God tells the people to expel from camp "every leper, every one
that hath an issue, and whoever is defiled by the dead." So by
God's instructions, the sick are abandoned and left to suffer and
die alone. 5:1-4
The Law of Jealousies. If a man suspects his wife of being
unfaithful, he reports it to the priest. The priest then makes
her drink some "bitter water." If she is guilty, the water makes
her thigh rot and her belly swell. If innocent, no harm done --
the woman is free and will "conceive seed." In any case, "the man
shall be guiltless from iniquity, and this woman shall bear her
iniquity." 5:11-31
If you don't keep the Passover you'll be "cut off" from your
people. 9:13
"And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the
Lord heard it." (He had his hearing aid on.) He then burns the
complainers alive. That'll teach them. 11:1
God promises to give them "flesh to eat," not for just a few
days, but "for a whole month, until it come out of your nostrils,
and it be loathsome to you." Yuck. 11:20
"And while the flesh [of the quails] was yet between their teeth,
ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the
people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague.
"The Bible isn't too clear about what these poor folks did to
upset God so much; all it says is that they had "lusted." 11:33
Miriam and Aaron (Moses' brother and sister) criticize Moses for
marrying an Egyptian woman and thus breaking the law of God (see
Ex.34:16, Dt.7:31, 1 Kg.11:2). But God makes it clear that his
rules don't apply to his favorites, and he strikes Miriam with
leprosy. Notice that only Miriam is punished, though both she and
Aaron complained. God just doesn't like women much, does he?
12:1, 9-10
More plagues and pestilence sent by God. God repeats one of his
favorite promises: "your carcasses shall fall in this
wilderness." 14:12, 29, 14:32-37
God punishes the children for the failings of their great-great
grandfathers. Bible-believers call this justice. 14:18
"If any soul sin through ignorance ..." but how can someone sin
through ignorance? Don't you have to know that an action is wrong
for it to be sinful? Oh well, if you do happen to sin through
ignorance, you can be forgiven by God if you kill some animals.
15:27-30
The Israelites find a man picking up sticks on the sabbath. God
commands them to kill him by throwing rocks at him. 15:32-36
Because of a dispute between Korah and Moses, God has the ground
open up and it swallows Korah and his family. And then, just for
the hell of it, God has a fire burn 250 men (friends of Korah?)
to death. 16:20-49
After God killed Korah, his family, and 250 innocent bystanders,
the people complained saying, "ye have killed the people of the
Lord." So God, who doesn't take kindly to criticism, sends a
plague on the people. And "they that died in the plague were
14,700." 16:41-50
God threatens to kill those who murmur. To which the people
reply, "Behold, we die, we perish, we all perish .... Shall we be
consumed with dying?" 17:12-13
According to this verse, it is wise to stay away from holy things
and places -- like churches. God will kill you if you get too
close. 18:3
God shows us how to make new friends by saying : "The stranger
that cometh nigh shall be put to death."
Don't get near holy things or "pollute" them. If you do, God will
kill you. 18:22, 32 18:7
Bad news for undertakers: Whoever touches a dead body shall be
"cut off from Israel." 19:13
"And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up
the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their
cities." This verse demonstrates the power of prayer: If you ask
God, he will destroy entire cities for you. 21:3
God delivers the Amorites into Moses' hands. (You're in God hands
with Moses.) So Moses does the usual thing, killing everyone
"until their was none left alive." 21:34-35
God says to Balaam, "If men come to call thee, rise up, and go
with them." Men come, and Balaam goes with them, just as God had
commanded." And God's anger was kindled because he went" -- but
he was just following God's instructions! 22:20-22
After the people "commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab,"
Moses has them all killed. Then God tells Moses to hang their
dead bodies up in front of him; God says that this will satisfy
him. 25:1-5
When one of the Israelite men brings home a foreign woman,
"Phinehas (Aaron's grandson) sees them and throws a spear
"through the man .. and the woman through her belly." This act
pleases God so much that "the plague was stayed from the children
of Israel." But not before 24,000 had died. 25:6-9
God tells Moses how to care for his neighbors by saying: "Vex the
Midianites, and smite them." 25:16-17
The ground swallow Korah and his companions and a fire consumes
250 men. 26:10
"And Nadab and Abihu died when they offered strange fire before
the Lord." When you go camping avoid making any unusual fires.
26:61
Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They
kill all the adult males, but take the women and children
captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily
says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a
man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went
back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing
everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000
virgins -- Wow! [Even God gets some of the booty -- including the
virgins. (31:28-29)] 31:1-54
God killed all the Egyptian firstborn. 33:4
"The revenger of blood" must murder the murderer just as soon as
he sees him. 35:19, 21
Deuteronomy
"The Lord destroyed them before them" -- the general treatment of
the people who were supposedly displaced by the Israelites.
2:21-22
God hardened the heart of the king of Heshbon and so that he
could have him and all of his people killed. 2:30
At God's instructions, the Israelites "utterly destroyed the men,
women, and the little ones" leaving "none to remain." 2:33-36
Again the Israelites kill everyone: "men, women, and children, of
every city." 3:3,6
When going to war, don't be afraid. God is on your side; "he
shall fight for you." 3:22
God destoyed the followers of Baalpeor. 4:3
God is "a consuming fire, even a jealous God." 4:24
God, by his own admission, is a jealous God who unjustly punishes
great-great grandchildren for the failings of their long-dead
ancestors. 5:9
"Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's ... manservant, or his
maidservant, his ox, or his *****, or any thing that is thy
neighbour's." In the Bible, slaves (servants in the KJV) are the
rightful property of slaveowners; they are his possessions --
like an ox or an *****. 5:21
If you worship the wrong god, God will get jealous and kill you.
6:15
God instructs the Israelites to kill, without mercy, all the
inhabitants (strangers) of the land that they conquer. 7:2
If you do show any mercy to such strangers, "give your daughters
to any of them, or "take" any of their daughters, then you'll get
God so angry that he'll "destroy thee suddenly." 7:4
God prefers the Israelites to everyone else. It's not that he's
prejudiced, he just like them better. 7:6
God will kill those who hate him. 7:10
Those who do as God says will never be infertile (neither will
their cows!) and will never get sick. (God will send infertility
and diseases on the other guys.) 7:14-15
God commands his people to "consume all the people which the Lord
thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity on
them." 7:16
God will send hornets to kill your enemies, "for the Lord thy God
is among you, a mighty God and terrible." 7:20-23
God is "a consuming fire" that destroys people. 9:3
Prophets and dreamers are to be executed if they say or dream the
wrong things. 13:1-5
If your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend tries to get you
to worship another god, "thou shalt surely kill him, thine hand
shall be first upon him to put him to death." If Bible-believers
followed this one, they would have to kill many of their own
family and friends. 13:6-10
If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then
destroy everyone in the city (even the cattle) and burn it down.
(Watch out Salt Lake!) 13:12-16
Don't eat any dead animals that you find lying around. But it's
okay to give it to strangers or sell it to foreigners. 14:21
Instructions for buying your brother. 15:12-17
Kill everyone who has religious beliefs that are different from
your own. 17:2-7
Anyone who will not listen to a priest or a judge must be
executed. 17:12-13
False prophets are to be (you guessed it) executed. How do you
know who is a false prophet? By whether or not their predictions
come true. (Watch out Jehovah's Witnesses!) 18:20
Murderers and perjurers are to be executed -- "and thine eye
shall not pity" them. 19:11-13, 18-21
God travels with people and fights in their wars. 20:4
God tells the Israelites to enslave the people that they conquer
in war. 20:10-11
In the cities that god "delivers into thine hands" you must kill
all the males (including old men, boys, and babies) with "the
edge of the sword .... But the women ... shalt thou take unto
yourself." 20:13
"But of the cities ... which the Lord thy God doth give thee for
an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth."
Kill the old men and women, the sick and the dying, the blind and
the lame, pregnant mothers, nursing mothers, infants, toddlers,
and babies. 20:16
If you find a dead body and don't know the cause of death, then
get all the elders together, cut off the head of a heifer, wash
your hands over its body, and say our hands have not shed this
blood. (That'll do it!) 21:1-8
If you have a "stubborn and rebellious son," then you and the
other men in your neighborhood "shall stone him with stones that
he die." 21:18-21
Hang on trees the bodies of those who are "accursed of God." They
make nice decorations. 21:22
If a man marries, then decides that he hates his wife, he can
claim she wasn't a virgin when they were married. If her father
can't produce the "tokens of her virginity" (bloody sheets), then
the woman is to be stoned to death at her father's doorstep.
22:13-21
"If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then
they shall both of them die." 22:22
If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn't cry out
loud enough, then "the men of the city shall stone her to death."
22:23-24
If a man rapes an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay her father 50
shekels of silver and then marry her. 22:28-29
You can't go to church if your testicles are damaged or your
penis has been cut off. 23:1
God won't let bastards attend church. Neither can the sons or
daughters of bastards "even to the tenth generation." So if you
plan to attend church next Sunday be ready to prove that your
genitals are intact and don't forget your birth certificate and
genealogical records for at least the last ten generations. Don't
laugh. This stuff is important to God. 23:2
No Moabite will ever be allowed into the congregation of the
Lord. 23:3, 6
God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house
of the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord."
Sodomites and dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
If a man marries a woman and later finds "some uncleanness in
her," then he can divorce her and kick her out of his house. If
another man marries her and then dies, the first husband cannot
marry her again. "For that is an abomination before the Lord."
24:1-4
"Remember what the Lord thy God did unto Miriam." (He struck her
with leprosy for rightly accusing Moses of breaking God's laws
regarding marriage [Num.12:10]). 24:9
If a man dies before his wife has a child, then the widow must
marry her husband's brother -- whether she likes him or not, and
whether she wants to or not. 25:5
If two men fight and the wife of one grabs the "secrets" of the
other, "then thou shalt cut off her hand" and "thy eye shall not
pity her." 25:11-12
God commands the Israelites to "blot out the rembrance of Amalek
from under heaven." A few hundred years later God orders Saul to
kill of the Amalekites "both man and woman, infant and suckling."
(1 Sam.15:2-3) 25:19
If you don't obey all of the laws that are given in the Old
Testament, God shower you with the curses that are given in the
the next 52 verses (28:16-68). 28:15
"Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in
the field." I guess you'll be cursed just about wherever you go.
28:16
"Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body." 28:18
"Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou
be when thou goest out." 28:19
If you misbehave, god will send you "cursing, vexing, the
pestilence, consumption, fever, inflammation, extreme burning,
the sword, blasting, and mildew." 28:20-22
"And thy carcass shall be meat to all the fowls of the air."
28:25-26
"The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and the
emerods [hemorrhoids], and with the scab, and with the itch,
whereof thou canst be healed. The Lord will smite thee with
madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart." 28:27-28
"Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her."
28:30
"Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes." 28:31
Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people."
28:32
You will be enslaved and driven mad in another country. 28:33-24
"The Lord will smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a
sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto
the top of thy head." 28:35
You will be ruled by other nations, forced to serve other gods,
become a laughingstock among your neighbors, have your crops
destroyed by locusts, your vines eaten by worms, and have
fruitless olive trees. 28:36-40
"Thou shalt begat sons and daughters, but thou shall not enjoy
them; for they shall go into captivity." 28:41
Locusts will destroy your trees and fruit. 28:42
"All these curses shall come upon thee ... and upon thy seed for
ever." 28:48-49
God will enslave you and destoy you with hunger, thirst,
hardship, and all kinds of deprivation. 28:48-52
"And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy
sons and of thy daughters." 28:53-55
"The tender and delicate woman" will be forced to eat her own
children "that cometh out from between her feet." 28:56-57
If you don't do as God says he'll send plagues to torment and
destroy you. 28:58-67
God will have you sold to your enemies -- but even they won't buy
you. 28:68
God, in his jealousy, "will not spare him and will smite him with
"all the curses that are in this book." 29:20
"And the Lord will put all these curses upon thine enemies." See
Dt.28:16-64 for some of the curses God has in mind. 30:7
When God gets mad -- watch out! He'll starve you to death, burn
you with fire, and send vicious beasts to devour you. He'll
"destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also
with the man of gray hairs." Not even the helpless and innocent
are spared by this psychotic God. 32:21-26
God says, "To me belongeth vengeance, and recompense ... for the
day of their destruction is at hand." God's attitude seems to be:
"Go ahead, make my day." 32:35
God says, "I kill ... I wound ... I will make my arrows drunk
with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh." Someone should take
his sword and arrows away, at least until he's feeling better.
32:39-43
Joshua
"And the city shall be accursed ... and all that therein, to the
Lord: only Rahab the harlot shall live." God explains that Rahab
is to be spared since she hid Joshua's spies and lied to those
who were searching for them (2:4-5). But why was everyone else
killed? Some of them were probably liars too. 6:17
Keep yourselves from "the accursed thing". Whatever that is. But
be sure to save all the silver and gold for God! 6:18-19
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man
and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and *****, with the
edge of the sword." 6:21
After killing everyone, "they burnt the city with fire, and all
that was therein." Only the valuables (silver, gold, brass, and
iron) did they keep to "put into the treasury of the house of the
Lord." 6:24
Joshua says that those who try to rebuild Jericho will be
accursed by God, and will have to sacrifice both their oldest and
their youngest sons in its construction. Well, Jericho still
exists today, and is often considered to be the world's oldest,
continuously occupied city. 6:26
If you happen to see "the accursed thing," don't touch it. If you
do, you, your family, and all of your animals must be burned.
7:15
"And Joshua ... took Achan ... and his sons, and his daughters,
and his oxen, and his sheep... And all of Israel stoned them with
stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them
with stones." This is because Achan "took of the accursed
thing" -- whatever that means. But why would God require that
Achan's sons and daughters (and even his animals) be stoned to
death along with him? The Bible doesn't say. But it does tell us
that "the Lord turned from the fierceness of his anger" when
Achan, his children, and his animals were stoned to death and
their dead bodies burned. This story tells us about the loving
kindness of the biblical God. 7:24-16
"When ye have taken the city [Ai] ... ye shall set the city on
fire: according to the commandment of the LORD. 8:8
Joshua and his army, per God's instructions, slaughter "all the
inhabitants of Ai." 8:22-26
God curses the Gibeonites to be slaves of the Jews forever.
9:21-27
God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way"
as they try to escape. Then he sends down huge hailstones and
kills even more of them. 10:10-11
In a divine type of daylight savings time, God makes the sun
stand still so that Joshua can get all his killing done before
dark. 10:12-13
"The Lord fought for Israel." 10:14
God tells Joshua to "pursue after your enemies and smite the
hindmost of them." (Kick their butts.) Don't let any of them
escape "for the Lord your God hath delivered them into your
hand." 10:19
Joshua tells his captains to "put your feet upon the necks of
these kings." He says, "thus shall the Lord do to all of your
enemies." Then Joshua kills the kings and hangs them on trees.
10:24-26
Joshua, at God's command, kills everyone and everything that he
can find (including babies and little children)-- or, as the
Bible puts it, he "utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the
Lord commanded." 10:28-32
God delivers the Hazorites into Joshua's hand, and he knows just
what to do with them: he smites them all with (you guessed it)
the edge of the sword until "there was not any left to breathe."
11:6-17
"For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should
come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them
utterly." Notice that God hardens their hearts so that he can
have an excuse to kill them. 11:20
"Did not Achan son of Zerah commit a trespass in the accursed
thing, and wrath fell on all the congregation of Israel?" To find
out see Joshua 7:1-26. 22:20
God is jealous and will never forgive you for your sins. "He will
turn and do you hurt, and consume you." 24:19-20
Judges
God appoints Judah to succeed Joshua. The Lord delivers his foes
into his hands and another 10,000 are slain. In the process, they
capture Adonibezek and "cut off his thumbs and great toes." Nice
guys. 1:2-7
Caleb offers to give his daughter to anyone who conquers the city
of Debir. Caleb's nephew wins the contest and is given his cousin
for a prize. 1:12-13
"They slew the Canaanites that inhabited Zephath, and utterly
destroyed it ... And the Lord was with Judah." (You can tell by
the number of innocent people he killed.) 1:17, 19
God anger "was hot against Israel, and he sold them." Well, I
hope he got a good price. 2:14, 4:2
God anger "was hot against Israel, and he sold them." 3:8
The spirit of the Lord comes upon Othniel and causes him to go to
war. 3:10
God "delivers" more folks into the hands of his chosen people.
"And they slew of Moab ... about 10,000 men ... and their escaped
not a man." 3:28-29
"The Lord discomfited Sisera ... with the edge of the sword ...
and there was not a man left." 4:15-16
Jael (our heroine) offers food and shelter to a traveler (Sisera,
Jabin's captain), saying "turn in my Lord ... fear not." Then
after giving him a glass of milk and tucking him in, she drives a
tent stake through his head. "So God subdued on that day Jabin by
Jael." 4:17-23
For murdering her guest while he slept, Jael is "blessed above
women." (Hail Jael, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed
art thou among women....?) 5:24-26
"Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two?"
5:30
"So let all thine enemies perish, O Lord." (Let them all have
their temples pierced by blessed women.) 5:31
When Gideon and his water-lapping companions blow their trumpets,
God forces all the enemy soldiers to kill each other. 7:22
Two princes are killed and their heads are brought to Gideon.
7:25
For refusing to feed him and his army, Gideon tears the flesh off
the elders of Succoth and kills the men of the city. 8:7, 16
Gideon orders his son to kill two kings, but he refuses. So
Gideon has to do it himself since his son isn't "man" enough to
do it. 8:20
Abimelech kills 70 brothers "upon one stone." (He was trying to
get in the Guinness Book of World Records.) 9:5
God sends evil spirits that cause humans to deal treacherously
with each other. 9:23-24
God is angry at Israel so he sells them to the Philistines. He
had previously sold them to the kings of Mesopotamia (3:8) and
Canaan (4:2). He's such a shrewd businessman! 10:7
God smites Sihon and all his people and gives their land to
Israel. 11:21
"Whomsoever the LORD our God shall drive out from before us, them
will we [the Israelites] possess." 11:24
When "the spirit of the Lord" comes upon Jephthah, he makes a
deal with God: If God will help him kill the Ammonites, then he
(Jephthah) will offer to God as a burnt offering whatever comes
out of his house to greet him. God keeps his end of the deal by
providing Jephthah with "a very great slaughter." But when
Jephthah returns, his nameless daughter comes out to greet him
(who'd he expect, his wife?). Well, a deal's a deal, so he
delivers her to God as a burnt offering -- after letting her
spend a couple of months going up and down on the mountains
bewailing her virginity. 11:29-39
The Israelites "did evil in thesight of the Lord," so he
"delivered them into the hand of the Philistines forty years."
13:1
"And the spirit of the Lord came upon him [Samson], and he ...
slew thirty men." (Samson might have been a decent person if he
could have kept the spirit of the Lord off him.) 14:19
Samson catches 300 foxes, ties their tails together, and sets
them on fire; the Philistines burn Samson's ex-wife and
father-in-law; and Samson smites them "hip and thigh with a great
slaughter." 15:4-8
After taking in a traveling Levite, the host offers his virgin
daughter and his guest's concubine to a mob of perverts (who want
to have sex with his guest). The mob refuses the daughter, but
accepts the concubine and they "abuse her all night." The next
morning she crawls back to the doorstep and dies. The Levite puts
her dead body on an ***** and takes her home. Then he chops her
body up into twelve pieces and sends them to each of the twelve
tribes of Israel. 19:22-30
Finally, God enters the fray and kills 25,100 Benjamites. 20:35,
37
To find wives for the Benjamites (they were unwilling to use
their own daughters), the other tribes attacked and killed all
occupants of a city except for the young virgins. These virgins
were then given to the Benjamites for wives. 21:7-23
1 Samuel
"The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; out of
heaven shall he thunder upon them." If God doesn't like you,
he'll send a thunderstorm your way to break your body into little
pieces. 2:10
If you're not careful God will cut off your arm, consume your
eyes, grieve your heart, and kill your sons and grandfathers.
2:31-34
God smites the people of Ashdod with hemorrhoids "in their secret
parts." 5:6, 9, 12
for there was a deadly destruction throughout all the city; the
hand of God was very heavy there. 5:11
God delivers the Philistines into Johathan's hand. And his very
"first slaughter ... was about twenty men." Not bad for a first
slaughter. 14:12
Under God's influence, the Philistines killed each other. 14:20
God orders Saul to kill all of the Amalekites: men, women,
infants, sucklings, ox, sheep, camels, and asses. Why? Because
God remembers what Amalek did hundreds of years ago. What did
this have to do with the present situation? Nothing. God just
wanted to some more innocent people killed. 15:2-3
Saul killed everyone but Agag (the king) and the best of the
animals. But still God was furious with Saul for not killing
everything as he had been told to do. He said, "it repenteth me
that I have se Saul up to be king." 15:7-26
To please God, Samuel hacks Agag in pieces "before the Lord" [I
bet God enjoyed that!] -- after Agag pleads with him saying,
"surely the bitterness of death has past." 15:32-34
"The evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied."
18:10
David kills 200 Philistines and brings their foreskins to Saul to
buy his first wife (Saul's daughter Michal). Saul had only asked
for 100 foreskins, but David was feeling generous. 18:25-27
And the evil spirit from the Lord was upon Saul." Poor guy, he
just can't keep God's evil spirit off of himself. 19:9
"And it came to pass about ten days after, that the Lord smote
Nabal, that he died." This was convenient for David who then
stole his property and his wife, Abigail. 25:38
So David takes his second wife (Abigail) after God killed he
husband (Nabal). He also, at the same time, took another wife
(#3), Abinam. In the meantime, Saul gave Michal (his daughter and
David's first wife) to another man. 25:41-44
"And David smote the land and left neither man nor woman alive."
(No wonder God liked David so much!) 27:8-11
Saul visits a woman with a "familiar spirit" and she brings
Samuel back from the dead. Samuel once again explains that God is
angry at Saul for not killing all of the Amelekites. He says God
is going to deliver all of Israel into the hands of the
Philistines. (Since Saul refused to slaughter innocent people,
God will slaughter the Israelites. Fair is fair.) 28:8-19
2 Samuel
David tells one of his "young men" to kill the Amalekite
messenger who claimed to have mercifully killed Saul at Saul's
own request. 1:15
When Joab (David's captain) kills Abner (by smiting him under the
fifth rib of course), David says that he and his kingdom are not
responsible. The blame, he says, lays with Joab. So David curses
Joab, his family, and their descendants forever. Let them all be
plagued with venereal diseases and leprosy, starve to death,
commit suicide, or lean on staves. (The Revised Standard Version
translates "leaneth on a staff" as "holds a spindle," apparently
meaning effeminate -- real men don't spin or weave.) 3:27-29
Some of David's men kill Saul's son (by smiting him under the
fifth rib, of course) and bring his head to David, thinking that
he'll be pleased. But he wasn't. David has the assassins killed,
their hands and feet chopped off, and their bodies hung up (for
decorations?) over the pool in Hebron. 4:6-7
Whoever kills the lame and the blind will be David's "chief and
captain." 5:8
David asks God if he should kill some more Philistines. God says
yes, and he'll even help. So David and God "smote the
Philistines" again. 5:19, 25
Uzzah tries to keep the ark from falling off the cart, and God
kills him for it. I guess it was God's way of saying Thanks. God
is so taken with this story that he records it twice in the
Bible: here and in 1 Chr.13:9-10. But in the 1 Samuel story, God
kills Uzzah at "Nachon's threshingfloor", while in 1 Chronicles
it happens near the "threshingfloor of Chidon." 6:6-7
David kills and tortures thousands of people, "and the Lord
preserved David withersoever he went." 8:6, 14
God is angry at David for having Uriah killed. As a punishment,
he will have David's wives raped by his neighbor while everyone
else watches. It turns out that the "neighbor" that God sends to
do his dirty work is David's own son, Absalom (16:22). 12:11-12
To punish David for having Uriah killed, God kills Bathsheba's
baby boy. 12:14-18
A famine is sent on David's kingdom for three years. When David
asks God why, God answers: "It is for Saul, and his bloody house,
because he slew the Gibeonites. "So God sent a famine to punish a
kingdom for something that a former king had done. 21:1
"He teacheth my hands to war." Might as well learn from an
expert. 22:35
"Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies." 22:41
God tempts David to take a survey. 24:
God offers David a choice of punishments for having conducted the
census: 1) seven years of famine ( 1 Chr.21:1 says three years),
2) three months fleeing from enemies, or 3) three days of
pestilence. David can't decide, so God chooses for him and sends
a pestilence, killing 70,000 men (and probably around 200,000
women and children). 24:13
Even David can see the injustice of God's punishment (killing
hundreds of thousands of people because David took a census). He
pleads with God saying, "I have sinned ... but these sheep, what
have they done?" 24:17
1 Kings
Solomon justifies the murder of Joab by saying that Joab also was
a murderer, and that the blood of Joab's victims "shall therefore
return upon the head of Joab, and upon the head of his seed for
ever." 2:33
God is angry with Solomon, but decides to punish Solomon's son
rather than Solomon himself, because he liked Solomon's father
(David) so darned much. 11:11-12
Asa "did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD" by
expelling homosexuals (or "sodomites", as the good book calls
them). 15:12
Baasha kills "all of the house of Jeroboam" leaving none "to
breath." This slaughter was done "according to the word of the
Lord." 15:29
Zimri kills everyone "that pisseth against a wall ... according
to the word of the Lord." 16:11-12
When Hiel rebuilds Jericho, he lays the foundation with the body
of his oldest son and sets up the gates with his youngest son's
body "according to the word of the Lord." 16:34
Elijah orders the people to kill all prophets of Baal. 18:40
God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites hands, and 100,000
were killed in one day. Of those that escaped, 27,000 were
crushed by a falling wall. (Hey it can happen.) 20:28-30
God sends a lion to devour a man for refusing to strike another
man. 20:35
The prophet tells king Ahab that he, and his people, shall be
punished for releasing Ben-ha'dad: "Your life shall go for his
life, and your people for his people." 20:42
Naboth is stoned to death for blaspheming god and the king. 21:13
God promises to "bring evil upon thee" and to "cut off" all those
"that pisseth against the wall." God becomes furious when he sees
people urinating on walls. 21:21
Jezebel (Ahab's "strange" wife) "stirred up" Ahab to "work
wickedness in the sight of the Lord." to punish her, God vows
that "the dogs shall eat Jezebel." 21:23, 25
Since Ahab humbles himself before the Lord, God decides not to
bring evil on him; he'll bring it on Ahab's son instead. 21:29
Jehoshaphat "did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord"
and "took" the homosexuals (sodomites) "out of the land," or as
the RSV says, "he exterminated" them. 22:43, 46
2 Kings
Ahaziah was sick and sent messengers to Baalzebub to ask if he
would recover. God was jealous of the attention given to his
competitor and tells Ahaziah that he will die for asking the
wrong god. 1:4, 17
Elijah shows that he is "a man of God" by burning 102 men to
death. 1:10, 12
God sends two bears to rip up 42 little children for making fun
of Elisha's bald head. 2:23-24
God instructs the the Israelites, through the prophet Elisha, to
implement a scorched earth policy on the Moabites. "Strike every
fortified city and every choice city, and fell every good tree
and stop all springs of water, and mar every good piece of land
with stones." 3:19-25
Elisha prays that God will make his adversaries blind, and God
smites "them with blindness according the word of Elisha." 6:18
God sends a famine on the people that lasts for seven years. 8:1
God says that the "whole house of Ahab shall perish," and that he
"will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall." 9:8
Jehu shows off his zeal for the Lord by murdering "all that
remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him
according to the word of the Lord." 10:16-17
Jehu lied to the followers of Baal so that he could trap and kill
them. 10:19
Jehu warns his guards saying, "If any of the men escape, he that
letteth him go, his life shall be for the life of him." 10:24
Jehu, when he finishes his animal sacrifices, orders his men to
"Go in, and slay them, let none come forth. And they smote them
with the edge of the sword." 10:25
God is greatly pleased with all of Jehu's killings, saying
"because thou hast done well in executing that which is right in
mine eyes, and hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all
that was in mine heart [Jehu murdered them all], thy children of
the fourth generation shall sit on the throne of Israel." 10:30
God strikes king Azariah with leprosy "unto the day of his death"
for not removing the high places. 15:5
God sent lions to devour the foreigners in Samaria because "they
feared not the Lord," and even worse "they knew not the manner of
the God of the land." Well that'll teach them about God's
manners. 17:25-26
An "angel of the Lord" kills 185,000 men while they sleep. "And
when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead
corpses." I guess they all woke up and said, "Shucks, I'm dead."
19:35
God threatens to "bring such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that
whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle." 21:12
Even though Josiah did all that God asked of him, God still
punished him and all Jerusalem for the acts of his grandfather.
23:26
1 Chronicles
God killed Er for being "evil in the sight of the Lord." 2:3
God kills Uzza for trying to keep the ark from falling. 13:9-10
David tortures all the inhabi