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"James" |
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19 Nov 2006 11:31:30 AM |
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Re: Simple Question (9) |
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net>
Re: Simple Question
In article <y_AZg.3646$4T6.1070@trnddc02>,
Gilbertus Albans <primemenstat@world.net> wrote:
How do you identify a false religion?
That would be the religion of anyone who doesn't agree with me. {;-)
Hello,
As to a more serious note, here was my response to the poster. See if
it makes any Scriptural sense to you:
"Many are easily identified by their "fruit"- by their conduct, etc.
Jesus explained it this way at Mt 7:15-20,
"15. "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
16. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes
from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
17. Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears
bad fruit.
18. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear
good fruit.
19. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown
into the fire.
20. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." (NIV)
For example, if a religion professes to be Christian, and yet supports
the wars of this world, they are directly going against Jesus' words
at Mt 5:44,
"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you," (NASB)
Instead of 'loving' their enemies, they try to spread out his guts on
a battlefield. (or worse) Their 'fruit' shows them to be just what
they are; a false religion.
Of course when one is in the true religion (like Jesus' disciples were
in the first century), it is easier to recognize false religions that
are much different than yours. (like the pagan religions around those
first century Christians)
At any rate, there are some things to look for than one would
logically expect of a true religion. For instance, if God wanted
everyone to follow Him, then He would make sure that everyone would
get the opportunity to hear about Him and learn about Him etc.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book. As the World Book Encyclopedia puts it:
"The Bible is the most widely distributed book in history. It has also
been translated more times, and into more languages, than any other
book."
Sincerely, James
***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
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05 Jan 2007 05:11:29 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
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05 Jan 2007 05:34:25 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.(pending)
"Faith doesn't move mountains - it levels buildings."
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05 Jan 2007 02:15:20 PM |
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Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Steve O" |
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05 Jan 2007 03:10:47 PM |
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<> wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did return.
Typical.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.(pending)
"Faith doesn't move mountains - it levels buildings."
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06 Jan 2007 05:42:32 AM |
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Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did return.
Typical.
Well, if it troubles you so much, just take an opportunity to discuss
it with Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
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06 Jan 2007 11:49:11 AM |
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<> wrote in message
news:1168083752.317757.144790@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was
wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him
eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did
return.
Typical.
Well, if it troubles you so much,
It doesn't trouble me at all.
just take an opportunity to discuss
it with Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
There are people who try to discuss things with imaginary beings.
They are usually found in mental health institutions, or churches.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
"Faith doesn't move mountains - it levels buildings."
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06 Jan 2007 04:35:11 PM |
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Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168083752.317757.144790@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was
wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him
eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did
return.
Typical.
Well, if it troubles you so much,
It doesn't trouble me at all.
just take an opportunity to discuss
it with Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
There are people who try to discuss things with imaginary beings.
They are usually found in mental health institutions, or churches.
Well, some of them are found in alt.atheism.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "bob young" |
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08 Jan 2007 04:51:02 AM |
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wrote:
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168083752.317757.144790@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was
wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him
eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did
return.
Typical.
Well, if it troubles you so much,
It doesn't trouble me at all.
just take an opportunity to discuss
it with Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
There are people who try to discuss things with imaginary beings.
They are usually found in mental health institutions, or churches.
Well, some of them are found in alt.atheism.
Robert B. Winn
[Are ALL Christians 'Smart Alecs' or just some of them?]
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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08 Jan 2007 01:21:04 PM |
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On 8 Jan 2007 04:51:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:
rbwinn3@juno.com wrote:
Steve O wrote:
There are people who try to discuss things with imaginary beings.
They are usually found in mental health institutions, or churches.
Well, some of them are found in alt.atheism.
Robert B. Winn
[Are ALL Christians 'Smart Alecs' or just some of them?]
Robert is that special class, a Stupid Alec.
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| User: "bob young" |
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09 Jan 2007 10:54:02 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 04:51:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:
rbwinn3@juno.com wrote:
Steve O wrote:
There are people who try to discuss things with imaginary beings.
They are usually found in mental health institutions, or churches.
Well, some of them are found in alt.atheism.
Robert B. Winn
[Are ALL Christians 'Smart Alecs' or just some of them?]
Robert is that special class, a Stupid Alec.
Thought you meant me then for a second
Bob
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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06 Jan 2007 11:53:08 PM |
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On 6 Jan 2007 14:35:11 -0800, wrote:
Steve O wrote:
There are people who try to discuss things with imaginary beings.
They are usually found in mental health institutions, or churches.
Well, some of them are found in alt.atheism.
And you're one of them, Robert. Now if all you deluded Christians
would stop posting here ...
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08 Jan 2007 07:51:39 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 6 Jan 2007 14:35:11 -0800, wrote:
Steve O wrote:
There are people who try to discuss things with imaginary beings.
They are usually found in mental health institutions, or churches.
Well, some of them are found in alt.atheism.
And you're one of them, Robert. Now if all you deluded Christians
would stop posting here ...
I do not post anywhere except in alt.bible. If you do not want to see
my posts, don't put alt.atheism in the header.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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08 Jan 2007 01:55:21 PM |
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On 8 Jan 2007 05:51:39 -0800, wrote:
I do not post anywhere except in alt.bible.
WHAT A LIAR!
You just posted this post to alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.atheism, alt.bible and alt.religion.christian!
If you do not want to see my posts, don't put alt.atheism in the header.
*I* don't put it in the header of YOUR* posts - YOU do.
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08 Jan 2007 11:26:52 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 05:51:39 -0800, wrote:
I do not post anywhere except in alt.bible.
WHAT A LIAR!
You just posted this post to alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.atheism, alt.bible and alt.religion.christian!
If you do not want to see my posts, don't put alt.atheism in the header.
*I* don't put it in the header of YOUR* posts - YOU do.
I don't even look at the posts unless google says that there are too
many. Then I take alt. atheism out along with other irrelevant
newsgroups.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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09 Jan 2007 05:24:40 PM |
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On 8 Jan 2007 21:26:52 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 05:51:39 -0800, wrote:
I do not post anywhere except in alt.bible.
WHAT A LIAR!
You just posted this post to alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.atheism, alt.bible and alt.religion.christian!
If you do not want to see my posts, don't put alt.atheism in the header.
*I* don't put it in the header of YOUR* posts - YOU do.
I don't even look at the posts
So if your post says "alt.atheism", you post it without looking. Then
you blame ME for posting your post to alt.atheism?
You claim to know more than Einstein about relativity, but you can't
even figure out how Usenet works.
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10 Jan 2007 06:47:05 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 21:26:52 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 05:51:39 -0800, wrote:
I do not post anywhere except in alt.bible.
WHAT A LIAR!
You just posted this post to alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.atheism, alt.bible and alt.religion.christian!
If you do not want to see my posts, don't put alt.atheism in the header.
*I* don't put it in the header of YOUR* posts - YOU do.
I don't even look at the posts
So if your post says "alt.atheism", you post it without looking. Then
you blame ME for posting your post to alt.atheism?
You claim to know more than Einstein about relativity, but you can't
even figure out how Usenet works.
I know how it works. If you do not want to see my posts in alt.
atheism, just ignore them.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "bob young" |
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06 Jan 2007 04:08:03 AM |
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Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did return.
Typical.......
......and pathetic IMO
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.(pending)
"Faith doesn't move mountains - it levels buildings."
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06 Jan 2007 06:07:24 AM |
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bob young wrote:
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did return.
Typical.......
.....and pathetic IMO
If it offends you so much, just take an opportunity to discuss it with
Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
06 Jan 2007 09:57:03 PM |
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wrote:
bob young wrote:
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did return.
Typical.......
.....and pathetic IMO
If it offends you so much, just take an opportunity to discuss it with
Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
Buffoon
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| User: "Rich Corinthian Leather" |
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06 Jan 2007 09:35:49 AM |
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wrote:
bob young wrote:
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did return.
Typical.......
.....and pathetic IMO
If it offends you so much, just take an opportunity to discuss it with
Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
He's about 2,000 years late in returning. I wouldn't hold my breath for
it if I were you!
RCL
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06 Jan 2007 10:57:02 AM |
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Rich Corinthian Leather wrote:
wrote:
bob young wrote:
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did return.
Typical.......
.....and pathetic IMO
If it offends you so much, just take an opportunity to discuss it with
Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
He's about 2,000 years late in returning. I wouldn't hold my breath for
it if I were you!
RCL
Well, why are atheists so anxious to prove they have not read the
Bible? The Bible says that no man knoweth the day and the hour, no,
not the angels in heaven. So how is it that atheists claim to know the
exact time this event was supposed to take place?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Steve O" |
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06 Jan 2007 01:13:50 PM |
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<> wrote in message
news:1168102622.636996.42160@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Rich Corinthian Leather wrote:
wrote:
bob young wrote:
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives
of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was
wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him
eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John
would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive
today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character
being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth
about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie
to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he
would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up
some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did
return.
Typical.......
.....and pathetic IMO
If it offends you so much, just take an opportunity to discuss it with
Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
He's about 2,000 years late in returning. I wouldn't hold my breath for
it if I were you!
RCL
Well, why are atheists so anxious to prove they have not read the
Bible? The Bible says that no man knoweth the day and the hour, no,
not the angels in heaven. So how is it that atheists claim to know the
exact time this event was supposed to take place?
Robert B. Winn
Because Jesus claimed he would return to resurrect the Kingdom of Heaven and
begin the Day of Judgement within the lifetimes of those around him.
Read your bible if you don't believe me.
Everyone from 33A.D. is now dead
Still no show.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
"Faith doesn't move mountains - it levels buildings."
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| User: "" |
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06 Jan 2007 04:48:41 PM |
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Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168102622.636996.42160@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Rich Corinthian Leather wrote:
wrote:
bob young wrote:
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1168028120.656661.152480@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1167995489.661458.51630@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 07:43:24 -0800, wrote:
Why don't we just wait until after the resurrection
We did - "Jesus" promised that it would happen during the lives
of
some of those listening to him. They're all dead, so he was
wrong -
it's not going to happen.
Well, if Jesus had power to give some of those listening to him
eternal
life, then he was not wrong. Anyway, he said the apostle John
would
tarry on earth until he returned.
Robert B. Winn
Hey, wait a minute.
You sincerely believe that a biblical character is still alive
today?
Over 2000 years old?
Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from?
Wait, don't tell me.
I can guess.
OK, go ahead and guess.
Robert B. Winn
Errr.. The bible, right?
It's interesting that you mention the idea of a biblical character
being
alive today.
Christian apologists have been doing that for years- hence the myth
about
the Wandering Jew.
It amazes me watching theists twist , distort and plain outright lie
to
defend their faith or try to prove Jesus was right when he said he
would
return within the lifetime of those around him.
He never returned after the supposed resurrection, so they make up
some
story about a guy being cursed to wander the earth until Jesus did
return.
Typical.......
.....and pathetic IMO
If it offends you so much, just take an opportunity to discuss it with
Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn
He's about 2,000 years late in returning. I wouldn't hold my breath for
it if I were you!
RCL
Well, why are atheists so anxious to prove they have not read the
Bible? The Bible says that no man knoweth the day and the hour, no,
not the angels in heaven. So how is it that atheists claim to know the
exact time this event was supposed to take place?
Robert B. Winn
Because Jesus claimed he would return to resurrect the Kingdom of Heaven and
begin the Day of Judgement within the lifetimes of those around him.
Read your bible if you don't believe me.
Everyone from 33A.D. is now dead
Still no show.
Well, you are welcome to your own interpretation. Sorry, but what the
Bible actually says is that no man will know the day and the hour.
Neither will the angels in heaven, but the Father only. But you, as an
atheist, claim to have knowledge of the exact time.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
06 Jan 2007 11:52:04 PM |
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On 6 Jan 2007 14:48:41 -0800, wrote:
Well, you are welcome to your own interpretation. Sorry, but what the
Bible actually says is that no man will know the day and the hour.
You are welcome to your own interpretation, but what your own Bible
actually says is, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not
pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Evidently not so "verily",
since that generation is LONG passed (and past).
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| User: "" |
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08 Jan 2007 07:48:41 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 6 Jan 2007 14:48:41 -0800, wrote:
Well, you are welcome to your own interpretation. Sorry, but what the
Bible actually says is that no man will know the day and the hour.
You are welcome to your own interpretation, but what your own Bible
actually says is, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not
pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Evidently not so "verily",
since that generation is LONG passed (and past).
He also specifically said that the apostle John would tarry on earth
until he returned. I guess you did not read the gospel of John.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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08 Jan 2007 03:39:22 PM |
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wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 6 Jan 2007 14:48:41 -0800, wrote:
Well, you are welcome to your own interpretation. Sorry, but what the
Bible actually says is that no man will know the day and the hour.
You are welcome to your own interpretation, but what your own Bible
actually says is, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not
pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Evidently not so "verily",
since that generation is LONG passed (and past).
He also specifically said that the apostle John would tarry on earth
until he returned. I guess you did not read the gospel of John.
===>And what does THAT prove to you?
It only reinforces what AK wrote.
"that generation is LONG passed",
and, of course, old Johnny also died,
plus millions of other expecting Christians.
And it is still a NO SHOW after some 19 centuries. -- L.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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08 Jan 2007 01:53:52 PM |
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On 8 Jan 2007 05:48:41 -0800, wrote:
He also specifically said that the apostle John would tarry on earth
until he returned.
And, since John is dead, that's another failed prophesy.
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08 Jan 2007 11:23:44 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 05:48:41 -0800, wrote:
He also specifically said that the apostle John would tarry on earth
until he returned.
And, since John is dead, that's another failed prophesy.
So who killed him, Al? We had not received the news yet.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
09 Jan 2007 05:23:17 PM |
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On 8 Jan 2007 21:23:44 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 05:48:41 -0800, wrote:
He also specifically said that the apostle John would tarry on earth
until he returned.
And, since John is dead, that's another failed prophesy.
So who killed him, Al? We had not received the news yet.
His telomeres running out, if nothing else.
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| User: "Rich Corinthian Leather" |
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06 Jan 2007 10:02:55 PM |
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wrote:
Rich Corinthian Leather wrote:
wrote:
bob young wrote:
Steve O wrote:
< > wrote in message
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