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Religions > Bible |
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"James" |
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19 Nov 2006 11:31:30 AM |
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Re: Simple Question (9) |
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net>
Re: Simple Question
In article <y_AZg.3646$4T6.1070@trnddc02>,
Gilbertus Albans <primemenstat@world.net> wrote:
How do you identify a false religion?
That would be the religion of anyone who doesn't agree with me. {;-)
Hello,
As to a more serious note, here was my response to the poster. See if
it makes any Scriptural sense to you:
"Many are easily identified by their "fruit"- by their conduct, etc.
Jesus explained it this way at Mt 7:15-20,
"15. "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
16. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes
from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
17. Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears
bad fruit.
18. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear
good fruit.
19. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown
into the fire.
20. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." (NIV)
For example, if a religion professes to be Christian, and yet supports
the wars of this world, they are directly going against Jesus' words
at Mt 5:44,
"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you," (NASB)
Instead of 'loving' their enemies, they try to spread out his guts on
a battlefield. (or worse) Their 'fruit' shows them to be just what
they are; a false religion.
Of course when one is in the true religion (like Jesus' disciples were
in the first century), it is easier to recognize false religions that
are much different than yours. (like the pagan religions around those
first century Christians)
At any rate, there are some things to look for than one would
logically expect of a true religion. For instance, if God wanted
everyone to follow Him, then He would make sure that everyone would
get the opportunity to hear about Him and learn about Him etc.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book. As the World Book Encyclopedia puts it:
"The Bible is the most widely distributed book in history. It has also
been translated more times, and into more languages, than any other
book."
Sincerely, James
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Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
03 Jan 2007 01:02:19 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
03 Jan 2007 02:29:15 PM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual cabbage>
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
03 Jan 2007 09:38:44 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
04 Jan 2007 09:39:47 AM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:4f9u64-q542.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual
cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Shoot, why would you make it the regular way? :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
04 Jan 2007 06:07:03 PM |
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:39:47 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:4f9u64-q542.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual
cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Shoot, why would you make it the regular way? :P
At least it wouldn't have boiled cabbage in it. And you, being a
vegetarian, wouldn't eat it at all.
When it comes to haggis, this is a Good Thing.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
05 Jan 2007 10:22:10 AM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:7eh074-h3l2.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:39:47 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:4f9u64-q542.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual
cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Shoot, why would you make it the regular way? :P
At least it wouldn't have boiled cabbage in it. And you, being a
vegetarian, wouldn't eat it at all.
When it comes to haggis, this is a Good Thing.
LOL. Thank you, Martha Stewart ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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04 Jan 2007 09:26:11 PM |
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:07:03 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
When it comes to haggis, this is a Good Thing.
Haggis and "good thing" don't belong in the same language.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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04 Jan 2007 11:38:16 AM |
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:38:44 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Because.... SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing,
it is still a foolish thing" - Anatole France
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
04 Jan 2007 06:11:17 PM |
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:38:16 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:38:44 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Because.... SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Build a bridge out of 'er!
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
05 Jan 2007 10:22:39 AM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:5mh074-h3l2.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:38:16 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:38:44 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual
cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Because.... SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Build a bridge out of 'er!
Not now; I have a headache ;P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
05 Jan 2007 07:28:56 AM |
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:11:17 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:38:16 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:38:44 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Because.... SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Build a bridge out of 'er!
Is there anything else that floats?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"There is something feeble and a little contemptible about
a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of
comfortable myths. Almost inevitably some part of him is
aware that they are myths and that he believes them only
because they are comforting. But he dare not face this
thought! Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his
opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are
disputed." - Bertrand Russell
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
05 Jan 2007 10:23:05 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:hPCdnYrg6qIFzwPYnZ2dnUVZ_q3inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:11:17 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:38:16 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:38:44 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual
cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Because.... SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Build a bridge out of 'er!
Is there anything else that floats?
V's posts? (Well, they ARE *****)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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05 Jan 2007 02:17:45 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:23:05 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:hPCdnYrg6qIFzwPYnZ2dnUVZ_q3inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:11:17 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:38:16 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:38:44 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual
cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Because.... SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Build a bridge out of 'er!
Is there anything else that floats?
V's posts? (Well, they ARE *****)
Build a bridge out of them!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing,
it is still a foolish thing" - Anatole France
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
05 Jan 2007 02:58:40 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnQGbeLH0LwPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:23:05 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:hPCdnYrg6qIFzwPYnZ2dnUVZ_q3inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:11:17 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:38:16 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:38:44 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:29:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist
today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual
cabbage>
Eeeew! Even if you could, why _would_ you?
Because.... SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Build a bridge out of 'er!
Is there anything else that floats?
V's posts? (Well, they ARE *****)
Build a bridge out of them!
Eeeeeewwwww!
No thank you!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "" |
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03 Jan 2007 02:54:20 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual cabbage>
--
She doesn't have much of an attention span. Nice lady, though.
Robert B. Winn
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03 Jan 2007 02:54:27 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:r6bt64-o4t1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by
competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Is it possible to make vegetarian Haggis? <goes looking for unusual cabbage>
--
She doesn't have much of an attention span. Nice lady, though.
Robert B. Winn
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03 Jan 2007 02:49:38 PM |
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Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Cheer up, lads. Only a thousand miles left to go.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
03 Jan 2007 10:51:53 PM |
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On 3 Jan 2007 12:49:38 -0800, wrote:
Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Cheer up, lads. Only a thousand miles left to go.
A thousand miles of you not being able to refute the facts.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
04 Jan 2007 05:17:02 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 3 Jan 2007 12:49:38 -0800, wrote:
Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:30:20 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:58:38 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:51:03 -0800, wrote:
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion
Legalization of abortion was pushed for by a Christian woman.
Well, no, it was actually done by lawyers
Who were Christians.
Methinks I hear the pipes in the distance...
Cheer up, lads. Only a thousand miles left to go.
A thousand miles of you not being able to refute the facts.
How are you doing with those equations, Al?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
04 Jan 2007 09:58:01 PM |
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On 4 Jan 2007 15:17:02 -0800, wrote:
How are you doing with those equations, Al?
The ones you claim Einstein got wrong?
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
05 Jan 2007 09:32:42 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 15:17:02 -0800, wrote:
How are you doing with those equations, Al?
The ones you claim Einstein got wrong?
What I claim has no bearing on what Einstein did. He either got the
equations right or he got them wrong. That is the way mathematics
works.
So how are you doing at working the problem, Al?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
05 Jan 2007 02:51:28 PM |
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On 5 Jan 2007 07:32:42 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 15:17:02 -0800, wrote:
How are you doing with those equations, Al?
The ones you claim Einstein got wrong?
What I claim has no bearing on what Einstein did. He either got the
equations right or he got them wrong. That is the way mathematics
works.
The way it works is that no mathematician is going to discuss a claim
that Einstein was wrong with an Alzheimer's patient.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
05 Jan 2007 07:04:51 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 5 Jan 2007 07:32:42 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 15:17:02 -0800, wrote:
How are you doing with those equations, Al?
The ones you claim Einstein got wrong?
What I claim has no bearing on what Einstein did. He either got the
equations right or he got them wrong. That is the way mathematics
works.
The way it works is that no mathematician is going to discuss a claim
that Einstein was wrong with an Alzheimer's patient.
As far as I can see, mathematicians are free to discuss whatever they
want to discuss with whoever they want to discuss it. Or do you claim
to be making up rules that mathematicians have to follow now also?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
27 Dec 2006 01:12:53 PM |
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On 27 Dec 2006 09:12:18 -0800, wrote:
Same subject. You were saying that atheists were never involved in
atrocities.
No, he was saying that atheism is never the cause of an atrocity. It
isn't. No one commits an atrocity BECAUSE OF what he doesn't believe
in.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
28 Dec 2006 05:39:53 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 27 Dec 2006 09:12:18 -0800, wrote:
Same subject. You were saying that atheists were never involved in
atrocities.
No, he was saying that atheism is never the cause of an atrocity. It
isn't. No one commits an atrocity BECAUSE OF what he doesn't believe
in.
Well, once again we disagree. Josef Stalin was a famous atheist who
did not believe in Satan, just as you say you do not believe in Satan.
Satan tempted Josef Stalin to commit atrocities, and twelve million
people were put to death. If Josef Stalin had believed that Satan
existed, maybe he would have been more careful.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
28 Dec 2006 07:01:34 PM |
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On 28 Dec 2006 03:39:53 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 27 Dec 2006 09:12:18 -0800, wrote:
Same subject. You were saying that atheists were never involved in
atrocities.
No, he was saying that atheism is never the cause of an atrocity. It
isn't. No one commits an atrocity BECAUSE OF what he doesn't believe
in.
Well, once again we disagree. Josef Stalin was a famous atheist
He was famous, he wasn't an atheist.
Satan tempted Josef Stalin to commit atrocities
Then he would be a man who committed atrocities because of
Christianity, since Satan is part of the Christian myth. "Satan" is
just another bunch of meaningless letters to an atheist.
and twelve million people were put to death.
Due, by your logic, to Christianity - the Christian Satan.
If Josef Stalin had believed that Satan
existed, maybe he would have been more careful.
Now you're contradicting yourself. First you claim that his belief in
Satan caused him to kill 12 million people, then you claim that he
didn't believe in Satan. Which is it?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
30 Dec 2006 03:49:15 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 03:39:53 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 27 Dec 2006 09:12:18 -0800, wrote:
Same subject. You were saying that atheists were never involved in
atrocities.
No, he was saying that atheism is never the cause of an atrocity. It
isn't. No one commits an atrocity BECAUSE OF what he doesn't believe
in.
Well, once again we disagree. Josef Stalin was a famous atheist
He was famous, he wasn't an atheist.
Satan tempted Josef Stalin to commit atrocities
Then he would be a man who committed atrocities because of
Christianity, since Satan is part of the Christian myth. "Satan" is
just another bunch of meaningless letters to an atheist.
and twelve million people were put to death.
Due, by your logic, to Christianity - the Christian Satan.
If Josef Stalin had believed that Satan
existed, maybe he would have been more careful.
Now you're contradicting yourself. First you claim that his belief in
Satan caused him to kill 12 million people, then you claim that he
didn't believe in Satan. Which is it?
No, Al, I said Satan tempted him. Satan told Josef Stalin, There is no
Satan, kill all of these people. So Josef Stalin said, There is no
Satan, kill twelve million people.
But maybe he would have been a harmless chicken farmer like Heinrich
Himmler if Satan had not tempted him.
Notice that after Heinrich Himmler left his honest vocation as a
chicken farmer, he fell into the same kind of temptation.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
03 Jan 2007 12:26:21 AM |
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On 30 Dec 2006 13:49:15 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Now you're contradicting yourself. First you claim that his belief in
Satan caused him to kill 12 million people, then you claim that he
didn't believe in Satan. Which is it?
No, Al, I said Satan tempted him. Satan told Josef Stalin, There is no
Satan, kill all of these people. So Josef Stalin said, There is no
Satan, kill twelve million people.
Since he didn't believe in Satan, he wouldn't have believed anything
someone, claiming to be Satan, told him. (Satan DOESN'T exist, except
in your religion's delusions, so "Satan told him" is nonsense.)
But maybe he would have been a harmless chicken farmer like Heinrich
Himmler if Satan had not tempted him.
Notice that after Heinrich Himmler left his honest vocation as a
chicken farmer, he fell into the same kind of temptation.
Next you'll claim that "Gott mit Uns" has nothing to do with
Christianity.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
03 Jan 2007 04:26:02 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:49:15 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Now you're contradicting yourself. First you claim that his belief in
Satan caused him to kill 12 million people, then you claim that he
didn't believe in Satan. Which is it?
No, Al, I said Satan tempted him. Satan told Josef Stalin, There is no
Satan, kill all of these people. So Josef Stalin said, There is no
Satan, kill twelve million people.
Since he didn't believe in Satan, he wouldn't have believed anything
someone, claiming to be Satan, told him. (Satan DOESN'T exist, except
in your religion's delusions, so "Satan told him" is nonsense.)
But maybe he would have been a harmless chicken farmer like Heinrich
Himmler if Satan had not tempted him.
Notice that after Heinrich Himmler left his honest vocation as a
chicken farmer, he fell into the same kind of temptation.
Next you'll claim that "Gott mit Uns" has nothing to do with
Christianity.
Reminds me of WWII when I was a school boy. We were taken to church once a
week to pray for the glorious victory of our soldiers fighting on The Front
in Europe . [The German kids were doing the same, only this time, they were
praying for 'their' soldiers]
Then there is that TV program coming up here next week, "Soldiers of
Christ"
Not to mention WWI when Padres on both sides prayed with the troops before
they went 'over the top' to die in a hail of bullets. What was combatant
loss tally for these two wars?
WWI fifteen million. WWII nineteen million.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
03 Jan 2007 02:35:20 PM |
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bob young wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 30 Dec 2006 13:49:15 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Now you're contradicting yourself. First you claim that his belief in
Satan caused him to kill 12 million people, then you claim that he
didn't believe in Satan. Which is it?
No, Al, I said Satan tempted him. Satan told Josef Stalin, There is no
Satan, kill all of these people. So Josef Stalin said, There is no
Satan, kill twelve million people.
Since he didn't believe in Satan, he wouldn't have believed anything
someone, claiming to be Satan, told him. (Satan DOESN'T exist, except
in your religion's delusions, so "Satan told him" is nonsense.)
But maybe he would have been a harmless chicken farmer like Heinrich
Himmler if Satan had not tempted him.
Notice that after Heinrich Himmler left his honest vocation as a
chicken farmer, he fell into the same kind of temptation.
Next you'll claim that "Gott mit Uns" has nothing to do with
Christianity.
Reminds me of WWII when I was a school boy. We were taken to church once a
week to pray for the glorious victory of our soldiers fighting on The Front
in Europe . [The German kids were doing the same, only this time, they were
praying for 'their' soldiers]
Then there is that TV program coming up here next week, "Soldiers of
Christ"
Not to mention WWI when Padres on both sides prayed with the troops before
they went 'over the top' to die in a hail of bullets. What was combatant
loss tally for these two wars?
WWI fifteen million. WWII nineteen million.
Well, I don't know whether you were in the military during a war. I
was. I personally did not want to go "over the top". There were
people in the opposing military who did not want to go "over the top".
I do not begrudge people in the military whatever spiritual guidance
they might receive, regardless of what military they are in. But if
you atheists want to try to stop military people from praying, that
would be up to you to try to do. Maybe you will be able to get some
soldiers together to help you enforce this rule you have made. What
are you going to do if some of your soldiers start praying?
Robert B. Winn
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