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"James" |
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19 Nov 2006 11:31:30 AM |
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Re: Simple Question (9) |
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net>
Re: Simple Question
In article <y_AZg.3646$4T6.1070@trnddc02>,
Gilbertus Albans <primemenstat@world.net> wrote:
How do you identify a false religion?
That would be the religion of anyone who doesn't agree with me. {;-)
Hello,
As to a more serious note, here was my response to the poster. See if
it makes any Scriptural sense to you:
"Many are easily identified by their "fruit"- by their conduct, etc.
Jesus explained it this way at Mt 7:15-20,
"15. "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
16. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes
from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
17. Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears
bad fruit.
18. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear
good fruit.
19. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown
into the fire.
20. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." (NIV)
For example, if a religion professes to be Christian, and yet supports
the wars of this world, they are directly going against Jesus' words
at Mt 5:44,
"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you," (NASB)
Instead of 'loving' their enemies, they try to spread out his guts on
a battlefield. (or worse) Their 'fruit' shows them to be just what
they are; a false religion.
Of course when one is in the true religion (like Jesus' disciples were
in the first century), it is easier to recognize false religions that
are much different than yours. (like the pagan religions around those
first century Christians)
At any rate, there are some things to look for than one would
logically expect of a true religion. For instance, if God wanted
everyone to follow Him, then He would make sure that everyone would
get the opportunity to hear about Him and learn about Him etc.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book. As the World Book Encyclopedia puts it:
"The Bible is the most widely distributed book in history. It has also
been translated more times, and into more languages, than any other
book."
Sincerely, James
***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************"
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
19 Nov 2006 11:36:20 AM |
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"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
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*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net>
Re: Simple Question
In article <y_AZg.3646$4T6.1070@trnddc02>,
Gilbertus Albans <primemenstat@world.net> wrote:
How do you identify a false religion?
That would be the religion of anyone who doesn't agree with me. {;-)
Hello,
As to a more serious note, here was my response to the poster. See if
it makes any Scriptural sense to you:
"Many are easily identified by their "fruit"- by their conduct, etc.
Jesus explained it this way at Mt 7:15-20,
"15. "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
16. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes
from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
17. Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears
bad fruit.
18. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear
good fruit.
19. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown
into the fire.
20. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." (NIV)
For example, if a religion professes to be Christian, and yet supports
the wars of this world, they are directly going against Jesus' words
at Mt 5:44,
"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you," (NASB)
Instead of 'loving' their enemies, they try to spread out his guts on
a battlefield. (or worse) Their 'fruit' shows them to be just what
they are; a false religion.
Of course when one is in the true religion (like Jesus' disciples were
in the first century), it is easier to recognize false religions that
are much different than yours. (like the pagan religions around those
first century Christians)
At any rate, there are some things to look for than one would
logically expect of a true religion. For instance, if God wanted
everyone to follow Him, then He would make sure that everyone would
get the opportunity to hear about Him and learn about Him etc.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book. As the World Book Encyclopedia puts it:
"The Bible is the most widely distributed book in history. It has also
been translated more times, and into more languages, than any other
book."
Sincerely, James
***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************"
Why do you keep asking the same simple question? Are you one of those
people who, when they don't like the answer they get, ask it again until
they get one that they do like?
God bless,
David
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| User: "Jim07D6" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
19 Nov 2006 12:11:10 PM |
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James <bireda@allvantage.com> said:
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net>
Re: Simple Question
In article <y_AZg.3646$4T6.1070@trnddc02>,
Gilbertus Albans <primemenstat@world.net> wrote:
How do you identify a false religion?
That would be the religion of anyone who doesn't agree with me. {;-)
Hello,
<...>
Of course when one is in the true religion (like Jesus' disciples were
in the first century), it is easier to recognize false religions that
are much different than yours. (like the pagan religions around those
first century Christians)
<...>
That is what nemo said, James.
-- Jim07D6
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
19 Nov 2006 05:33:51 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net>
Re: Simple Question
How do you identify a false religion?
That would be the religion of anyone who doesn't agree with me. {;-)
As to a more serious note, here was my response to the poster. See if
it makes any Scriptural sense to you:
"Many are easily identified by their "fruit"- by their conduct, etc.
Jesus explained it this way at Mt 7:15-20,
That would make Christianity the religion of child rapists. I don't
think you want to go there.
For example, if a religion professes to be Christian, and yet supports
the wars of this world, they are directly going against Jesus' words
Matthew 10:34
Of course when one is in the true religion (like Jesus' disciples were
in the first century), it is easier to recognize false religions that
are much different than yours.
Only if a false religion "would be the religion of anyone who doesn't
agree with" yours.
(like the pagan religions around those first century Christians)
The first century Christos were Jews. ("Anointed ones" = "chosen
people".)
At any rate, there are some things to look for than one would
logically expect of a true religion. For instance, if God wanted
everyone to follow Him, then He would make sure that everyone would
get the opportunity to hear about Him and learn about Him etc.
No, he would make sure that everyone HEARD HIM. A god doesn't need
your kind to tell people what he wants, he's perfectly capable of
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
21 Nov 2006 09:10:53 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net>
Re: Simple Question
How do you identify a false religion?
That would be the religion of anyone who doesn't agree with me. {;-)
As to a more serious note, here was my response to the poster. See if
it makes any Scriptural sense to you:
"Many are easily identified by their "fruit"- by their conduct, etc.
Jesus explained it this way at Mt 7:15-20,
That would make Christianity the religion of child rapists. I don't
think you want to go there.
And it would make Islam the religion of terrorists.
Michael
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
26 Dec 2006 11:12:11 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so sane that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion. In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God. If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
26 Dec 2006 12:05:55 PM |
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<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1167153131.279621.104600@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so sane that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
26 Dec 2006 02:29:42 PM |
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If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
No, it's not, loubert. It is a rejection of almighty God for the love of sin.
That makes you an agnostic, not an atheist.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
The area is already crowded with your bullsh_t.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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27 Dec 2006 12:01:47 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
No, it's not, loubert.
Yes it is, Dukey-poo. I am one, and you're not, so you can shut the ***** up
since you don't know jack ***** about it.
It is a rejection of almighty God for the love of sin.
I don't know a single atheist that matches that description.
That makes you an agnostic, not an atheist.
Nope, atheism addresses one's state of belief, not one's state of knowedge.
But you're too stupid to remember that.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
The area is already crowded with your bullsh_t.
I have my ***** in HIS *****? How the ***** did it get THERE?
Good grief, Duke, you're a fucking moron.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Dec 2006 02:16:56 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:01:47 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
Good grief, Duke, you're a fucking moron.
I agree with the noun, but I doubt the adjective.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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27 Dec 2006 03:55:41 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:01:47 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
Good grief, Duke, you're a fucking moron.
I agree with the noun, but I doubt the adjective.
Granted, but I'm just too revolted to do the research.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Steve O" |
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27 Dec 2006 05:52:03 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:01:47 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
Good grief, Duke, you're a fucking moron.
I agree with the noun, but I doubt the adjective.
Granted, but I'm just too revolted to do the research.
No need for research.
He's unmarried.
He avoids sin.
His church declares extra marital sex a sin.
He doesn't *****
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
"Faith doen't move mountains - it levels buldings."
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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27 Dec 2006 08:37:53 PM |
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"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:01:47 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
Good grief, Duke, you're a fucking moron.
I agree with the noun, but I doubt the adjective.
Granted, but I'm just too revolted to do the research.
No need for research.
He's unmarried.
He avoids sin.
His church declares extra marital sex a sin.
He doesn't *****
But if he's a filthy hypocrite, that all collapses!
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "bob young" |
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27 Dec 2006 06:38:01 AM |
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duke wrote:
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
No, it's not, loubert. It is a rejection of almighty God for the love of sin.
Love, compassion and sin existed for millions of years before some banal nitwit
invented gods Dookie !
Forget 'sin' you people have milked it to death, nobody takes any notice any
more.
That makes you an agnostic, not an atheist.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
The area is already crowded with your bullsh_t.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Steve O" |
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27 Dec 2006 06:47:54 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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duke wrote:
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
No, it's not, loubert. It is a rejection of almighty God for the love of
sin.
It's not all about your particular God.
Atheists reject all gods.
It has nothing to do with sin, either, moron.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
"Faith doen't move mountains - it levels buldings."
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| User: "" |
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26 Dec 2006 01:38:54 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1167153131.279621.104600@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so sane that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement. So
how is lack of a belief supposed to accomplish anything?
If there was anything to atheism, it would be a belief.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
26 Dec 2006 11:57:02 PM |
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<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1167153131.279621.104600@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an
old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so sane that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
But since profanity has nothing to do with the truth of a position, you can
suck my *****.
So
how is lack of a belief supposed to accomplish anything?
Well, if the 9/11 terrorists had had a lack of belief in Allah, there'd be
two big skyscrapers still standing in New York.
If there was anything to atheism, it would be a belief.
It provides no rationale for atrocities.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
27 Dec 2006 12:41:57 AM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1167161934.494283.282250@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1167153131.279621.104600@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an
old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so sane that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
But since profanity has nothing to do with the truth of a position, you can
suck my *****.
So
how is lack of a belief supposed to accomplish anything?
Well, if the 9/11 terrorists had had a lack of belief in Allah, there'd be
two big skyscrapers still standing in New York.
If there was anything to atheism, it would be a belief.
It provides no rationale for atrocities.
You are certainly an evil little person. So who was behind all of the
60,000,000 homicides of American children by abortion? I have never
seen an abortion doctor who claimed to be other than an atheist.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
27 Dec 2006 02:20:36 AM |
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<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely
distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not
an
old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not,
and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent
in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so sane
that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
But since profanity has nothing to do with the truth of a position, you
can
suck my *****.
So
how is lack of a belief supposed to accomplish anything?
Well, if the 9/11 terrorists had had a lack of belief in Allah, there'd
be
two big skyscrapers still standing in New York.
If there was anything to atheism, it would be a belief.
It provides no rationale for atrocities.
You are certainly an evil little person. So who was behind all of the
60,000,000 homicides of American children by abortion? I have never
seen an abortion doctor who claimed to be other than an atheist.
Robert B. Winn
Way to change the subject, you little dipshit!
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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27 Dec 2006 11:12:18 AM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely
distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not
an
old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not,
and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent
in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so sane
that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
But since profanity has nothing to do with the truth of a position, you
can
suck my *****.
So
how is lack of a belief supposed to accomplish anything?
Well, if the 9/11 terrorists had had a lack of belief in Allah, there'd
be
two big skyscrapers still standing in New York.
If there was anything to atheism, it would be a belief.
It provides no rationale for atrocities.
You are certainly an evil little person. So who was behind all of the
60,000,000 homicides of American children by abortion? I have never
seen an abortion doctor who claimed to be other than an atheist.
Robert B. Winn
Way to change the subject, you little dipshit!
Same subject. You were saying that atheists were never involved in
atrocities.
Robert B. Winn
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
27 Dec 2006 03:51:12 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
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Denis Loubet wrote:
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Denis Loubet wrote:
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James
<bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely
distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is
not
an
old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is
not,
and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is
magnificent
in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world
of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so sane
that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is
people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established
on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
But since profanity has nothing to do with the truth of a position,
you
can
suck my *****.
So
how is lack of a belief supposed to accomplish anything?
Well, if the 9/11 terrorists had had a lack of belief in Allah,
there'd
be
two big skyscrapers still standing in New York.
If there was anything to atheism, it would be a belief.
It provides no rationale for atrocities.
You are certainly an evil little person. So who was behind all of the
60,000,000 homicides of American children by abortion? I have never
seen an abortion doctor who claimed to be other than an atheist.
Robert B. Winn
Way to change the subject, you little dipshit!
Same subject. You were saying that atheists were never involved in
atrocities.
No, I said atheism provides no rationale for atrocities. Even if abortion
was a homicide, which it isn't, no one gets or performs an abortion BECAUSE
they're an atheist.
You little dipshit.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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28 Dec 2006 05:51:03 AM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James
<bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely
distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom.
Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is
not
an
old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is
not,
and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is
magnificent
in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world
of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so sane
that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is
people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda established
on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
But since profanity has nothing to do with the truth of a position,
you
can
suck my *****.
So
how is lack of a belief supposed to accomplish anything?
Well, if the 9/11 terrorists had had a lack of belief in Allah,
there'd
be
two big skyscrapers still standing in New York.
If there was anything to atheism, it would be a belief.
It provides no rationale for atrocities.
You are certainly an evil little person. So who was behind all of the
60,000,000 homicides of American children by abortion? I have never
seen an abortion doctor who claimed to be other than an atheist.
Robert B. Winn
Way to change the subject, you little dipshit!
Same subject. You were saying that atheists were never involved in
atrocities.
No, I said atheism provides no rationale for atrocities. Even if abortion
was a homicide, which it isn't, no one gets or performs an abortion BECAUSE
they're an atheist.
You little dipshit.
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion because atheists in Europe
had enforced the practice there. For instance, in the Soviet Union,
the average woman was having five abortions in her lifetime. What
atheists always seek is state sponsored homicide of some kind. So you
claim abortion is not homicide. Homicide is the killing of one human
being by another. What you are saying is that a pregnant woman has
something other than another human being inside her. I have already
discussed the reasoning of atheists with them. They believe that a
pregnant woman has a parasite inside her which changes to a child when
it is born.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Simple Question (9) |
28 Dec 2006 12:28:00 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
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Denis Loubet wrote:
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Denis Loubet wrote:
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Denis Loubet wrote:
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James
<bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely
distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is
freedom.
Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the
religious
mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is
not
an
old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is
not,
and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is
magnificent
in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a
world
of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so
sane
that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is
people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda
established
on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong
statement.
But since profanity has nothing to do with the truth of a position,
you
can
suck my *****.
So
how is lack of a belief supposed to accomplish anything?
Well, if the 9/11 terrorists had had a lack of belief in Allah,
there'd
be
two big skyscrapers still standing in New York.
If there was anything to atheism, it would be a belief.
It provides no rationale for atrocities.
You are certainly an evil little person. So who was behind all of
the
60,000,000 homicides of American children by abortion? I have never
seen an abortion doctor who claimed to be other than an atheist.
Robert B. Winn
Way to change the subject, you little dipshit!
Same subject. You were saying that atheists were never involved in
atrocities.
No, I said atheism provides no rationale for atrocities. Even if abortion
was a homicide, which it isn't, no one gets or performs an abortion
BECAUSE
they're an atheist.
You little dipshit.
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion because atheists in Europe
had enforced the practice there.
What? You're saying that atheists have such political clout that they can
sway public opinion towards what you view as mass murder, yet at the same
time are so distrusted that they can't get elected to public office? That's
one impressive 7% to 15% of the population!
I think your problem is that you're caught up in your own conspiracy theory
where the illuminati is composed of a secret cabal of atheists that control
everything.
For instance, in the Soviet Union,
the average woman was having five abortions in her lifetime. What
atheists always seek is state sponsored homicide of some kind. So you
claim abortion is not homicide. Homicide is the killing of one human
being by another.
Yes, and an embryo is not a human being.
What you are saying is that a pregnant woman has
something other than another human being inside her.
Yes. It is something that is becoming human.
I have already
discussed the reasoning of atheists with them.
You've discussed the reasoning of atheists with embryos? That explains a
lot.
They believe that a
pregnant woman has a parasite inside her which changes to a child when
it is born.
So when you eat an egg, do you say you're eating a chicken?
I'll have the scrambled chickens, please.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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30 Dec 2006 03:55:55 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Denis Loubet wrote:
<rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:31:30 -0500, James
<bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
doing that himself. MORE capable than you are, in fact.
Interestingly, the Bible is in more languages and widely
distributed
than any other religious book.
Using the conclusion to prove the premise?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is
freedom.
Atheism
is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the
religious
mind
cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is
not
an
old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is
not,
and
never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is
magnificent
in
its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a
world
of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
Well, what I do not see happening, Al, is atheists being so
sane
that
other people would want to be like them. What does occur is
people
proclaiming atheism as a form of rebellion against established
religion.
*****.
In the meantime, other atheists come up with an endless
agenda designed to destroy all moral values and faith in God.
*****. *****.
If
atheism is so great, why not come up with an agenda
established
on
building up instead of tearing down?
Because atheism is only the lack of a belief.
If you need an agenda, try humanism.
But take your ***** and shove it up your *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong
statement.
But since profanity has nothing to do with the truth of a position,
you
can
suck my *****.
So
how is lack of a belief supposed to accomplish anything?
Well, if the 9/11 terrorists had had a lack of belief in Allah,
there'd
be
two big skyscrapers still standing in New York.
If there was anything to atheism, it would be a belief.
It provides no rationale for atrocities.
You are certainly an evil little person. So who was behind all of
the
60,000,000 homicides of American children by abortion? I have never
seen an abortion doctor who claimed to be other than an atheist.
Robert B. Winn
Way to change the subject, you little dipshit!
Same subject. You were saying that atheists were never involved in
atrocities.
No, I said atheism provides no rationale for atrocities. Even if abortion
was a homicide, which it isn't, no one gets or performs an abortion
BECAUSE
they're an atheist.
You little dipshit.
When I was born, abortion was a crime except when approved by competent
legal and medical authority, something that does not exist today.
Atheists in this country promoted abortion because atheists in Europe
had enforced the practice there.
What? You're saying that atheists have such political clout that they can
sway public opinion towards what you view as mass murder, yet at the same
time are so distrusted that they can't get elected to public office? That's
one impressive 7% to 15% of the population!
I think your problem is that you're caught up in your own conspiracy theory
where the illuminati is composed of a secret cabal of atheists that control
everything.
For instance, in the Soviet Union,
the average woman was having five abortions in her lifetime. What
atheists always seek is state sponsored homicide of some kind. So you
claim abortion is not homicide. Homicide is the killing of one human
being by another.
Yes, and an embryo is not a human being.
What you are saying is that a pregnant woman has
something other than another human being inside her.
Yes. It is something that is becoming human.
I have already
discussed the reasoning of atheists with them.
You've discussed the reasoning of atheists with embryos? That explains a
lot.
They believe that a
pregnant woman has a parasite inside her which changes to a child when
it is born.
So when you eat an egg, do you say you're eating a chicken?
I'll have the scrambled chickens, please.
--
Denis Loubet
Very good, Denis. That is an amazing leap of logic for an atheist.
Yes, an egg is a chicken at an early stage of development. In the
Philippines they wait until the egg has developed into a little
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