Re: some say homosexuality is okay cuz it's found in nature. what about pedophilia and bestiality--or interspecism?



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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Lars Eighner"
Date: 26 Jan 2008 06:44:40 AM
Object: Re: some say homosexuality is okay cuz it's found in nature. what about pedophilia and bestiality--or interspecism?
In our last episode,
<b2933fdc-77c2-4ba2-8b96-e46bafc894a7@m34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, the
lovely and talented RDog broadcast on alt.politics.homosexuality:

On Jan 25, 10:26 pm, ScottyFLL <Scotty...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 25, 8:54 pm, RDog <r.do...@yahoo.com> wrote:



On Jan 25, 8:35 pm, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


On Jan 25, 5:23 pm, LMC Society <aegisi...@hotmail.com> wrote:


some pro-gay agenda people argue that homosexuality is normal


Wanna define "normal"? Like, wanna give us a percentage of people who
engage in a certain behavior in order for it to be considered
"normal"? And then you wanna prove to us that things that are not
"normal" are "bad"?


since it
can
be observed in nature. supposedly, some whales have been spotted
practicing 'gay' behavior


We don't have to look outside the human species. Humans are creations
of nature.


We are incapable of doing ANYTHING "unnatural".


Perhaps, but there are some, including many of the most prominent
evolutionary biologists, who believe that human cultural changes after
the agricultural revolution are not "natural" in the sense that they
weren't determined by natural selection within the (paleolithic)
environment in which we evolved.


I think they're talking about natural selection and evolution there.
And if some are saying that human cultural changes are not "natural"
after an agricultural revolution, I'd like to see how their arguments
work.

Yes, all we do is indeed "natural" in that sense, but our
environmental circumstances have been so different after the
agricultural revolution, and the post-agricultural revolution period
has been so brief relative to the several million year long
environment from which we evolved, that it can justifiably be argued
that our behavior over the past 10,000 years is *not* representative
of what would have occurred had we not made the move into
"civilization".

Ah! The if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle argument.
If human were non-human to the extent that they did not develop
civilizations, they might be something different from human!
Or in other words, there could have been a different species who would not
have developed civilizations and some different might have happened to them,
but in fact the species that exists is the civilizing species, and the big
difference between it and the noncivilizing species is that human beings
actually exist, whereas the species that does not civilize is speculative
fantasy.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/>

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