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"Ananias917" |
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08 Dec 2005 05:16:41 AM |
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Re: Some Serious Questions |
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:42:42 -0800, oldwetdog
<oldwetdog@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
Seriously, these are serious questions.
First Serious Question, "Who should we believe?"
a) If some man or woman tells us they have been granted special
understanding by God; should we then believe them?
That's what YOU say. You claim to know that we are the
generation that will see Jesus return and a lot of
other things, like Europe is in the Bible and so are
nuclear weapons AND you claim these things ARE FACT
and also that you do NOT INTERPRET.
And now you have the nerve to post this?!
q) If Preterism, A-millennialism, Post- millennialism and Pre_
millennialism all prove each other wrong, and if each of these
contradict His Word, then what is the correct explanation of End Time
Prophecy?
Preterism is not proved wrong by other doctrines and
you think your claim that it is, is God Himself
speaking!
You think that what YOU say is truth and YOU have
said that before! Your ego is larger than the building
I live in!
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: Some Serious Questions |
08 Dec 2005 03:07:00 PM |
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All religion is based on myths, fables and irrational thinking. Religion is
a mental problem caused by an uncontrollable fear of death and what comes
after.
"Ananias917" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:42:42 -0800, oldwetdog
<oldwetdog@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
Seriously, these are serious questions.
First Serious Question, "Who should we believe?"
a) If some man or woman tells us they have been granted special
understanding by God; should we then believe them?
That's what YOU say. You claim to know that we are the
generation that will see Jesus return and a lot of
other things, like Europe is in the Bible and so are
nuclear weapons AND you claim these things ARE FACT
and also that you do NOT INTERPRET.
And now you have the nerve to post this?!
q) If Preterism, A-millennialism, Post- millennialism and Pre_
millennialism all prove each other wrong, and if each of these
contradict His Word, then what is the correct explanation of End Time
Prophecy?
Preterism is not proved wrong by other doctrines and
you think your claim that it is, is God Himself
speaking!
You think that what YOU say is truth and YOU have
said that before! Your ego is larger than the building
I live in!
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "Jani" |
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| Title: Re: Some Serious Questions |
08 Dec 2005 05:11:10 PM |
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What about religions which incorporate reincarnation? Or ancestor worship?
Spiritualism? I think you're being a bit simplistic there ...
Jani
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:zd1mf.19462$cA2.19355@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
All religion is based on myths, fables and irrational thinking. Religion
is a mental problem caused by an uncontrollable fear of death and what
comes after.
"Ananias917" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9g5gp15evkbd52cibo7gubbfiei7s5eers@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:42:42 -0800, oldwetdog
<oldwetdog@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
Seriously, these are serious questions.
First Serious Question, "Who should we believe?"
a) If some man or woman tells us they have been granted special
understanding by God; should we then believe them?
That's what YOU say. You claim to know that we are the
generation that will see Jesus return and a lot of
other things, like Europe is in the Bible and so are
nuclear weapons AND you claim these things ARE FACT
and also that you do NOT INTERPRET.
And now you have the nerve to post this?!
q) If Preterism, A-millennialism, Post- millennialism and Pre_
millennialism all prove each other wrong, and if each of these
contradict His Word, then what is the correct explanation of End Time
Prophecy?
Preterism is not proved wrong by other doctrines and
you think your claim that it is, is God Himself
speaking!
You think that what YOU say is truth and YOU have
said that before! Your ego is larger than the building
I live in!
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "\ a m d g " |
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| Title: Reincarnation was Re: Some Serious Questions |
08 Dec 2005 11:38:26 PM |
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"Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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What about religions which incorporate reincarnation? Or ancestor worship?
Spiritualism? I think you're being a bit simplistic there ...
Jani
(I knew a Baptist pastor back in the early 1980s - First Baptist Church
Seattle - forgotten his name (Rodney someone... scratching my head for
recall, but that's not helping), who believed in reincarnation. Anyone else
come across this oxymoronic association :-)?
--
Shalom! Rowland Croucher
amdg
Snoopy was typing a manuscript, up on his kennel.
Charlie Brown: 'What are you doing Snoopy?'
Snoopy: 'Writing a book about theology.'
Charlie Brown: 'Good grief. What's its title?'
Snoopy (thoughtfully): 'Have You Ever Considered You Might Be Wrong?'
More - http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/2975.htm
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| User: "Daniel & Annette Halligan" |
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| Title: Re: Reincarnation was Re: Some Serious Questions |
09 Dec 2005 10:26:30 AM |
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"( a m d g )" <email@contact.button.on.website> wrote in message
news:4399184c$0$30065$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:I8-dnfGBdfaPIAXenZ2dnUVZ8qmdnZ2d@pipex.net...
What about religions which incorporate reincarnation? Or ancestor
worship?
Spiritualism? I think you're being a bit simplistic there ...
Jani
(I knew a Baptist pastor back in the early 1980s - First Baptist Church
Seattle - forgotten his name (Rodney someone... scratching my head for
recall, but that's not helping), who believed in reincarnation. Anyone
else
come across this oxymoronic association :-)?
--
Shalom! Rowland Croucher
amdg
Snoopy was typing a manuscript, up on his kennel.
Charlie Brown: 'What are you doing Snoopy?'
Snoopy: 'Writing a book about theology.'
Charlie Brown: 'Good grief. What's its title?'
Snoopy (thoughtfully): 'Have You Ever Considered You Might Be Wrong?'
More - http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/2975.htm
I hope not. Sounds like the new cult Scientology. Beware of such teaching.
It is not of God. Absent from the body, Present with the Lord.
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| User: "Jani" |
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| Title: Re: Reincarnation was Re: Some Serious Questions |
10 Dec 2005 04:56:16 AM |
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"( a m d g )" <email@contact.button.on.website> wrote in message
news:4399184c$0$30065$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:I8-dnfGBdfaPIAXenZ2dnUVZ8qmdnZ2d@pipex.net...
What about religions which incorporate reincarnation? Or ancestor
worship? Spiritualism? I think you're being a bit simplistic there ...
Jani
(I knew a Baptist pastor back in the early 1980s - First Baptist Church
Seattle - forgotten his name (Rodney someone... scratching my head for
recall, but that's not helping), who believed in reincarnation. Anyone
else come across this oxymoronic association :-)?
Yeahbut the OP was generalising about *religion*, not about christianity :)
Jani
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| User: "*Peace of Christ*" |
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| Title: Re: Reincarnation was Re: Some Serious Questions |
10 Dec 2005 10:45:14 AM |
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In article <4399184c$0$30065$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, "\( a m d g
\)" <email@contact.button.on.website> wrote:
-"Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
-news:I8-dnfGBdfaPIAXenZ2dnUVZ8qmdnZ2d@pipex.net...
-> What about religions which incorporate reincarnation? Or ancestor worship?
-> Spiritualism? I think you're being a bit simplistic there ...
->
-> Jani
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-(I knew a Baptist pastor back in the early 1980s - First Baptist Church
-Seattle - forgotten his name (Rodney someone... scratching my head for
-recall, but that's not helping), who believed in reincarnation. Anyone else
-come across this oxymoronic association :-)?
I have often wondred about the few times I have met someone for the first
time , and yet we both have the feeling that we have had a relationship
before.
--
*Peace of Christ*
http://grace.break.at
To send e-mail, remove "youhat" from address
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| User: "oldwetdog" |
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| Title: Re: Some Serious Questions |
09 Dec 2005 12:08:34 AM |
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Ananias917 wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:42:42 -0800, oldwetdog
<oldwetdog@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
Seriously, these are serious questions.
First Serious Question, "Who should we believe?"
a) If some man or woman tells us they have been granted special
understanding by God; should we then believe them?
That's what YOU say. You claim to know that we are the
generation that will see Jesus return and a lot of
other things, like Europe is in the Bible and so are
nuclear weapons AND you claim these things ARE FACT
and also that you do NOT INTERPRET.
And now you have the nerve to post this?!
q) If Preterism, A-millennialism, Post- millennialism and Pre_
millennialism all prove each other wrong, and if each of these
contradict His Word, then what is the correct explanation of End Time
Prophecy?
Preterism is not proved wrong by other doctrines and
you think your claim that it is, is God Himself
speaking!
You think that what YOU say is truth and YOU have
said that before! Your ego is larger than the building
I live in!
Lies and False Accusations by Pastor Dave, (aka Ananias917)
(See post "Pastor Dave is Invisable to me" alt.christnet.christianlife,
11/19/05)
Brandon said: "I have lost count on how many posts you have called
people names, and cused even. You return insult for insult, and rudness
for rudness, how can you stand on your soap box and say you have a
shepards heart for the flock. You do not answer questions when asked,
and avoid any evidence when presented it. Your a mean person that does
dishoner to God's good name by calling yourself a Pastor.
I pray for you,
Brandon
Pastor Dave said, "Find me telling one lie." (11/26)
a) On more than one occasion Dave accused owd, "Now you go ahead and
keep pasting links to the daily news.."
Dave, please post a link to any post or statement of where I (owd) "keep
pasting links to the daily news..."
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
b) Dave posted, "The simple fact is, that what you bombard us with, is
day after day of news reports, with claims that they're in the Bible.
Dave, please post a those links where I (owd) have "bombard you with, is
day after day of news reports, with claims that they're in the Bible."
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
c) Dave posted, "Btw, have you written a letter of apology to Saddam
Hussein yet? Have you taken the time to apologize to him, for calling
him, "The AntiChrist"?
Dave, please post the link to where I (owd) stated, said, or calling
him, "The AntiChrist"?
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
d) Hey, thanks for being a "good Christian" and continuing this thread...
Dave, this is another false accusation-- because, YOU POSTED into this
thread _19 TIMES_ to my (owd) SIX (6) posts. There are about eight
people who posted to this thread, and you OUT POSTED them all! YOU ARE
THE ONE WHO KEPT THE THREAD GOING!
Proving (again) that you are a false accuser.
e) Dave accused, "You practice newspaper prophecy, trying to wrap your
Bible around the daily news. Everything that happens in the news,
suddenly becomes, "Bible prophecy being fulfilled before our eyes".
Dave, please post links to any post or statement where I claim
"Everything that happens in the news, suddenly becomes, "Bible prophecy
being fulfilled before our eyes".
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
(See Post "Knowing When" by oldwetdog, alt.christnet.christainlife 11/26/05)
f) Dave said: "Thank you for proving that you cannot deal with my words.
Yet, of course, you claim to be refuting my supposedly, "false
doctrine"." First, note that "Pastor Dave" refused to respond to the
content or subject of the post.
Second, "Pastor Dave" accused 'futurists' of "saying no one can know
when, then claiming it will be in this generation."
The post (which Dave posted into *FOUR* times) was an explanation of the
lie that no one can know when. This post explained that there is a
difference between knowing the Day and Hour, and recognizing the
generation. Dave "top posted" (the act of a Troll) his false
accusations, but refused to consider the subject of the post.
(See "A Time for Everything" by oldwetdog alt.christnet.christianlife
11/28/05)
g) Dave: "Well, you said it's all about YOU and YOUR time and that YOU
have the answers, didn't YOU?"
Dave, please post the link where I (owd) said, "it's all about YOU (me)
and YOUR (my) time and that YOU (I) have the answers, didn't YOU (I)?"
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
(See "Some Serious Questions" by oldwetdog, alt.christnet.christianlife
12/6/05)
h) Dave, you accused: "That's what YOU say. You claim to know that we
are the generation that will see Jesus return and a lot of other things,
like Europe is in the Bible and so are nuclear weapons AND you claim
these things ARE FACT and also that you do NOT INTERPRET.
Dave, please post a link to the post or statement where I said that I
"do NOT INTERPRET."
If you cannot or will not or do not then you are a false accuser.
Now let us hear the conclusion of the matter:
Pastor Dave (aka Ananias917) is a liar and false accuser.
owd
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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| Title: Re: Some Serious Questions |
09 Dec 2005 02:58:49 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:08:34 -0800, oldwetdog
<oldwetdog@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
Ananias917 wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:42:42 -0800, oldwetdog
<oldwetdog@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
Seriously, these are serious questions.
First Serious Question, "Who should we believe?"
a) If some man or woman tells us they have been granted special
understanding by God; should we then believe them?
That's what YOU say. You claim to know that we are the
generation that will see Jesus return and a lot of
other things, like Europe is in the Bible and so are
nuclear weapons AND you claim these things ARE FACT
and also that you do NOT INTERPRET.
And now you have the nerve to post this?!
q) If Preterism, A-millennialism, Post- millennialism and Pre_
millennialism all prove each other wrong, and if each of these
contradict His Word, then what is the correct explanation of End Time
Prophecy?
Preterism is not proved wrong by other doctrines and
you think your claim that it is, is God Himself
speaking!
You think that what YOU say is truth and YOU have
said that before! Your ego is larger than the building
I live in!
Lies and False Accusations by Pastor Dave, (aka Ananias917)
Let it be noted that I answered your statement directly
and you did not respond on point, but instead, try to
smear me.
Lies and False Accusations by Pastor Dave, (aka Ananias917)
Oh look, the guy who doesn't have the courage to deal
with me head on so he....
(See post "Pastor Dave is Invisable to me" alt.christnet.christianlife,
11/19/05)
....starts threads about me and then wants to point his
finger at me, claiming that I am attacking him.
And here, you have posted the same attack
MULTIPLE TIMES! Why is that? Because
of that "good Christian love" you display?
You criticize me and then do this?
Does the word, "hypocrite" ring a bell with you?
As for what you pasted in below, do you have the
courage to deal with them point by point, to see
if you're telling the whole truth here? Or will you
perform another hit & run like you usually do,
refusing to be corrected about your claims?
Brandon said: "I have lost count on how many posts you have called
people names, and cused even. You return insult for insult, and rudness
for rudness, how can you stand on your soap box and say you have a
shepards heart for the flock. You do not answer questions when asked,
and avoid any evidence when presented it. Your a mean person that does
dishoner to God's good name by calling yourself a Pastor.
I pray for you,
Brandon
Pastor Dave said, "Find me telling one lie." (11/26)
a) On more than one occasion Dave accused owd, "Now you go ahead and
keep pasting links to the daily news.."
Dave, please post a link to any post or statement of where I (owd) "keep
pasting links to the daily news..."
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
b) Dave posted, "The simple fact is, that what you bombard us with, is
day after day of news reports, with claims that they're in the Bible.
Dave, please post a those links where I (owd) have "bombard you with, is
day after day of news reports, with claims that they're in the Bible."
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
c) Dave posted, "Btw, have you written a letter of apology to Saddam
Hussein yet? Have you taken the time to apologize to him, for calling
him, "The AntiChrist"?
Dave, please post the link to where I (owd) stated, said, or calling
him, "The AntiChrist"?
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
d) Hey, thanks for being a "good Christian" and continuing this thread...
Dave, this is another false accusation-- because, YOU POSTED into this
thread _19 TIMES_ to my (owd) SIX (6) posts. There are about eight
people who posted to this thread, and you OUT POSTED them all! YOU ARE
THE ONE WHO KEPT THE THREAD GOING!
Proving (again) that you are a false accuser.
e) Dave accused, "You practice newspaper prophecy, trying to wrap your
Bible around the daily news. Everything that happens in the news,
suddenly becomes, "Bible prophecy being fulfilled before our eyes".
Dave, please post links to any post or statement where I claim
"Everything that happens in the news, suddenly becomes, "Bible prophecy
being fulfilled before our eyes".
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
(See Post "Knowing When" by oldwetdog, alt.christnet.christainlife 11/26/05)
f) Dave said: "Thank you for proving that you cannot deal with my words.
Yet, of course, you claim to be refuting my supposedly, "false
doctrine"." First, note that "Pastor Dave" refused to respond to the
content or subject of the post.
Second, "Pastor Dave" accused 'futurists' of "saying no one can know
when, then claiming it will be in this generation."
The post (which Dave posted into *FOUR* times) was an explanation of the
lie that no one can know when. This post explained that there is a
difference between knowing the Day and Hour, and recognizing the
generation. Dave "top posted" (the act of a Troll) his false
accusations, but refused to consider the subject of the post.
(See "A Time for Everything" by oldwetdog alt.christnet.christianlife
11/28/05)
g) Dave: "Well, you said it's all about YOU and YOUR time and that YOU
have the answers, didn't YOU?"
Dave, please post the link where I (owd) said, "it's all about YOU (me)
and YOUR (my) time and that YOU (I) have the answers, didn't YOU (I)?"
If you cannot or will not, then you are proven to be a liar and false
accusar.
(See "Some Serious Questions" by oldwetdog, alt.christnet.christianlife
12/6/05)
h) Dave, you accused: "That's what YOU say. You claim to know that we
are the generation that will see Jesus return and a lot of other things,
like Europe is in the Bible and so are nuclear weapons AND you claim
these things ARE FACT and also that you do NOT INTERPRET.
Dave, please post a link to the post or statement where I said that I
"do NOT INTERPRET."
If you cannot or will not or do not then you are a false accuser.
Now let us hear the conclusion of the matter:
Pastor Dave (aka Ananias917) is a liar and false accuser.
owd
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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