Religions > Bible > Re: Temple Whores - Sex as Religion Re: Is your wife [or are you] a prostitute?
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27 Jun 2003 04:57:10 AM |
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Re: Temple Whores - Sex as Religion Re: Is your wife [or are you] a prostitute? |
"what a joke" <laughing@you> wrote in message
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"Shéhérazade" <n_nazreenremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In pre-muslim and pre-British India prostitutes were not seen as
lowly- in fact they were revered to the point of having festivals in
their honour. They were often the most educated and wealthy women
around.
In fact, Maharishi Vatsayan observed prostitutes and courtesans
before he described many of the sexual positions of the Kamasutra.
It would appear that you have failed to discern the differences between
religion and a fertility cult.
Hello again, Savonarola. Tell us, how do you distinguish the difference
between religion and a fertility cult?
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| User: "Gregory" |
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| Title: Re: Temple Whores - Sex as Religion Re: Is your wife [or are you] a prostitute? |
01 Jul 2003 03:27:21 PM |
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"Sue Bilstein" <sue_bilstein@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In pre-muslim and pre-British India prostitutes were not seen as
lowly- in fact they were revered to the point of having festivals in
their honour. They were often the most educated and wealthy women
around.
In fact, Maharishi Vatsayan observed prostitutes and courtesans
before he described many of the sexual positions of the Kamasutra.
It would appear that you have failed to discern the differences between
religion and a fertility cult.
Hello again, Savonarola. Tell us, how do you distinguish the difference
between religion and a fertility cult?
Both Greek and Latin Catholicism definitely tend to the fertility or
'Mother' theme though admitedly not to the exclusion of everything else,
though it can almost seem that way in much of rural Ireland.
Moslems do tend to the fairly traditional gender defined roles of Motherhood
as well though I suspect their representation in the NZ parliament is not
even theoretical these days.
New Zealand today has much more in common with Israel.
Gregory
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| User: "Steve B" |
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| Title: Re: Temple Whores - Sex as Religion Re: Is your wife [or are you] a prostitute? |
02 Jul 2003 09:49:36 AM |
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:27:21 +0100, "Gregory"
<gregory.humanitas@ntlworld.com> wrote:
"Sue Bilstein" <sue_bilstein@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"what a joke" <laughing@you> wrote in message
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"Shéhérazade" <n_nazreenremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In pre-muslim and pre-British India prostitutes were not seen as
lowly- in fact they were revered to the point of having festivals in
their honour. They were often the most educated and wealthy women
around.
In fact, Maharishi Vatsayan observed prostitutes and courtesans
before he described many of the sexual positions of the Kamasutra.
It would appear that you have failed to discern the differences between
religion and a fertility cult.
Hello again, Savonarola. Tell us, how do you distinguish the difference
between religion and a fertility cult?
Both Greek and Latin Catholicism definitely tend to the fertility or
'Mother' theme though admitedly not to the exclusion of everything else,
though it can almost seem that way in much of rural Ireland.
You can hardly call the cult of a virgin who allegedly had one child
only a fertility cult.
Of the three traditional goddess images, Catholicism venerates the
Virgin (Melusine, Luna, Yesod). In the frighteningly intense image of
the Mother of Sorrows, black-robed with her heart pierced by seven
swords, in venerates the "crone" (Hecate, Saturn, Binah); but that's
an image even most Catholics, outside the influence of the Servite
order, wouldn't have been exposed to. The fertile mother (Demeter,
Habondia) is notably absent from the Catholic Marian tradition, as I
see it.
Moslems do tend to the fairly traditional gender defined roles of Motherhood
as well though I suspect their representation in the NZ parliament is not
even theoretical these days.
My information on the religious veneration of the women associated
with the founders of Islam is patchy, but I gather the veneration
accorded them is a significant cause of schism within Islam.
As for Islam's reaction to the surviving worship of goddesses, that's
what "The Satanic Verses" was all about. A fascinating book. It does
seem that those excised Qur'anic verses do show some evidence of
tolerance of goddess worship by Muhammed; but they were, in any case,
suppressed by Islam's founders, so they were not a lasting influence
on the faith.
New Zealand today has much more in common with Israel.
How so?
Gregory
Steve B.
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| User: "Gregory" |
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| Title: Re: Temple Whores - Sex as Religion Re: Is your wife [or are you] a prostitute? |
02 Jul 2003 02:47:57 PM |
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"Steve B" <s.bell@nospam-iecho.co.nz> wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:27:21 +0100, "Gregory"
<gregory.humanitas@ntlworld.com> wrote:
New Zealand today has much more in common with Israel.
How so?
Gregory
Steve B.
Actually it hasn't, I just wanted to post something controversial. New
Zealand was a model utopia for many Ulster people but those days are gone
for both NZ and Ulster.
Gregory
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| User: "Absolute" |
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| Title: Re: False "religions" worship the flesh |
27 Jun 2003 08:16:28 AM |
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"Sue Bilstein" <sue_bilstein@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"what a joke" <laughing@you> wrote in message
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"Shéhérazade" <n_nazreenremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In pre-muslim and pre-British India prostitutes were not seen as
lowly- in fact they were revered to the point of having festivals in
their honour. They were often the most educated and wealthy women
around.
In fact, Maharishi Vatsayan observed prostitutes and courtesans
before he described many of the sexual positions of the Kamasutra.
It would appear that you have failed to discern the differences between
religion and a fertility cult.
Hello again, Savonarola. Tell us, how do you distinguish the difference
between religion and a fertility cult?
False religions/fertility cults worship the flesh ie that which is transient
or temporal, worldly.
An interesting short article dealing with the topic of Sexually Transmitted
Diseases can be found at Jack's Web Cult and Subculture Research page;
http://members.aol.com/jackmroper/std.htm
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| User: "Bible Studies with Satan" |
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27 Jun 2003 12:30:59 PM |
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Absolute wrote:
"Sue Bilstein" <sue_bilstein@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"what a joke" <laughing@you> wrote in message
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"Shéhérazade" <n_nazreenremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In pre-muslim and pre-British India prostitutes were not seen as
lowly- in fact they were revered to the point of having festivals in
their honour. They were often the most educated and wealthy women
around.
In fact, Maharishi Vatsayan observed prostitutes and courtesans
before he described many of the sexual positions of the Kamasutra.
It would appear that you have failed to discern the differences between
religion and a fertility cult.
Hello again, Savonarola. Tell us, how do you distinguish the difference
between religion and a fertility cult?
False religions/fertility cults worship the flesh ie that which is
transient or temporal, worldly.
The Catholics and Mormons are fertility cults.
An interesting short article dealing with the topic of Sexually
Transmitted Diseases can be found at Jack's Web Cult and Subculture
Research page; http://members.aol.com/jackmroper/std.htm
--
If you're not corporate, you're little people!
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| User: "Evil Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: False "religions" worship the flesh |
27 Jun 2003 08:02:58 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 01:16:28 +1200, Absolute wrote:
False religions/fertility cults worship the flesh ie that which is transient
or temporal, worldly.
And other false religions deny the fruits of the world, and push a notion
of separatin of flesh and spirit, akin to the grape being separate from
the vine.
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