On 4 Aug 2003 16:32:16 -0700, (jsm) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<jdvrivcrdn1u9t8h2i31q4hmgtncd0cgj2@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 22:41:39 -0400, ? <nospam@noway.period> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 15:08:00 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> spake
thusly in these here little old news 'froups:
Finally Pope St. Innocent I approved
the 73 book canons in 405AD and closed the Bible to further debate.
As long as any pope claimed there was no room for debate, Christians
everywhere would be all the wiser TO debate it.
Catholic Church was there from the beginning, Popes and
all, and if it had not been, we would not have Any "debate"
on the Old or New Testament
And THEN you awoke from your dream. I see no mention of "Catholic" in
the Bible, no mention of "Popes". And I see MUCH debate in the 1st C
churches. So if there's no Catholic church as of the end of the
writing of the Bible (AD 70 or so) how can you POSSIBLY be so GULLIBLE
to believe your cult was there from the beginning?
I find the Baptists, I find the Church of Christ, and I find the
Christians mentioned; not ONE WORD about any "Catholics".
What is a mere pope? A figurehead... as symbolic as a puppet-king.
To you, but God left the first "Pope/Head Bishop/ in charge
of His Church.
Only in your delusion. There's no mention of a "pope" in the Bible. So
you are wrong.
John W
And elected manmade 'office' the title of pope means nothing,
Christ Himself elected Peter (meaning Rock) to head the Church.
and as
such, NO mere pope has the right, capability or authority to claim
ownership or definitive rights to God's Word, given to us ALL who
believe...........
The Pope has the authority granted to him by God as Scripture
says.
The very fact that the Bible non-Romans use does not contain 73 books
indicates that only the Romans consider the 73 book Bible "final."
It also shows he Catholic Church was there at the time of
Christ and His apostles, and kept All of the Word whether oral
or written.
The Jews reject the Christian books because they reject
Jesus Christ, Martin Luther rejected the books because they
didn't support his views.
(John the Baptist)
10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom,
and knowledge of the Holy one is understanding.
Prov 9:10
NIV
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