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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Pastor Frank"
Date: 04 Apr 2005 02:02:33 AM
Object: Re: the God belief Challenge
"wmech" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Carl Rooker" <rookerc@dnx.net> wrote in message
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"wmech" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Who out there has factual objective data that refutes the following;

Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent
Gods

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?


On the contrary;
2PE 3:8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a

day

is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord

is

not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is

patient

with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to

repentance.

NIV

Then he is malevolent.


No, He is good, and waits patiently for us to turn to Him, and give up

that

which is destroying us, our sin.

Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him a God?


Because He is the Creator, who sent His Son for us, and raised Him from

the

dead.
Your diatribe has no basis in reality, just a nonsense argument.

What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth,
folklore and legend.


But Faith in the One true God is based upon historical fact. Just some

not

willing to admit it use all sorts of silly arguments to refute it.

God bless
Carl


What historical fact??? You have offered nothing more that a religous
fanatics
myths and opinion. What is your objective evidence that there is any one
true God?

God is not an object but a quality, and qualities are matters of belief
and faith, not of objective evidence. I.e. Our christian "God is love" (1
John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in Jesus Christ. What "objective fact"
is there in regards to love, other than putting your life on the line for
the benefit of others, as Jesus did? See below
Pastor Frank
LOVE
Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one
another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples,
if ye have love one to another.
Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another,
as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down
his life for his friends.
.

User: "xeno"

Title: A Big Deal About Nothing 04 Apr 2005 06:09:58 AM
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Pastor Frank wrote:

God is not an object but a quality,

Then God is nothingness.
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