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In article <rqCdndF0do6ilP7anZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

December 6, 2007
The Huckabee of Old
Mike Huckabee's rapid ascent in the polls has come as a surprise to
many.
It
began with his performance and win at the Values Voter Debate,
where
he
assured a bevy of second and third-tier right-wing activists that
he
was
different from the other candidates - for while they simply come
"to"
them
seeking support, he comes "from" them.

Huckabee rode the wave from the Debate into the Value Voter Summit
where
he
wooed the audience by telling them everything they longed to hear
from
a
presidential candidate and walked away with the majority of votes
of
those
in attendance in the straw poll.

Since then, Huckabee has been racking up endorsements from
right-wing
figures like Janet Folger, Rick Scarborough, and Tim and Beverly
LaHaye
and
been transformed into a viable front-runner.

In addition, Huckabee has undoubtedly benefited from the fact that
many
in
the press seem smitten with his affability, humor, and "ah shucks"
demeanor - but, as we noted in a report we recently released, they
are
ignoring his "a long record of rhetoric and actions that reveal an
ideologue's
agenda and a zealot's intolerance for differing opinions."

For example, in this recent profile of Huckabee, the New York Times
undertook no real investigation of any of Huckabee's past work or
inflammatory remarks, stating simply:


Mr. Huckabee served as Mr. [James] Robison's announcer, advance
man
and
public relations representative, drumming up attendance and
coverage
for
his
prayer meetings and appearing on broadcasts. (The organization was
based
near Dallas, which is how Mr. Huckabee came to work on the 1980
Reagan
rally). Mr. Robison could be harsh - he yelled in the pulpit and
referred
to
gay people as perverts - but Mr. Huckabee was a genial ambassador

That is all well and good, until you realize just who Huckabee was
working
for:

Likewise, the Times goes on to perfunctorily recount Huckabee's
failed
1992
Senate campaign:


Mr. Huckabee ran largely on social issues like abortion,
portraying
his
opponent, Senator Dale Bumpers, a Democrat who was virtually an
Arkansas
institution, as a pornographer because he supported the National
Endowment
for the Arts. But attacking the popular veteran backfired; Mr.
Huckabee
was
badly beaten.

Of course, there is more to it than that - such as the positions he
put
forward during his campaign, which he discussed with the Associated
Press:

Having gays and lesbians in the military would be a disgrace for
the
nation, according to Huckabee.

"I agree with the leadership of our military, who believe it is
not
in
the
best interest of the armed forces to have homosexuals serving on
active
duty," he said. "I believe to try to legitimize that which is
inherently
illegitimate would be a disgraceful act of government. I feel
homosexuality
is an aberrant, unnatural and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it
can
pose
a dangerous public health risk."

.

Q: Do you approve of a man and a woman living together out of
marriage?

Huckabee: Whether or not I approve of a man and woman living
together
is
not as much of an issue as whether or not it is right and whether
or
not
God
approves of it. The "living together" relationship is demeaning to
the
highest expression of human love and commitment. I reject it as an
alternate
lifestyle, because it robs people of the highest possible
relationship
one
can experience: marriage. We should always strive to encourage
every
human
being to experience his or her full potential and possibilities.

Huckabee also shared his views regarding the proper treatment of
people
who
are infected with HIV:

"It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the
carriers
of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general
population,"
he
said. "This deadly disease, for which there is no cure, is being
treated
as
a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it
represents.

"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something
with
the
AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers
of
this
plague."

This was 1992 - four years after the federal government distributed
a
pamphlet penned by then Surgeon General C. Everett Koop entitled
"Understanding AIDS" which explained that the disease could not be
contracted through everyday contact. And is not as if Huckabee
just
didn't
see the pamphlet, since it "was sent to all 107 million households
in
the
United States in 1988, the largest public health mailing ever
done."

Huckabee likes to portray himself as a different kind of right-wing
leader,
one who is conservative but "is not angry about it." But judging by
his
past
remarks, he appears far more like his right-wing allies than he
would
like
the nation to believe.

Posted by Kyle at 6:30 PM

The more I learn about Huckabee, the less I like it and the more
worried
I become. There is no way that I want to see this fundy preacher man
become president.

Remember Timothy LaHaye, the guy who wrote
the "Left Behind" series and likes to talk about
Armagedden and rivers of blood four feet deep?
He's a big buddy pal of Huckabee.

Oh good grief!

Huckabee
believes in the same violent theist nonsense as
LaHaye and would do his damndest to see that
it happens.

If current occupant doesn't get the ball rolling first.

Hucksterbee is trying to sell everyone
a bill of goodies, but what he really wants is to
continue the Dominionist program in which they
take over the country and force a Dominionist
dictatorship on everyone. Sound crazy? It isn't.
I wouldn't trust Huckabee as far as I could
throw him. And, that wouldn't just affect Jews,
Hindus, Muslims, agnostics, atheists, etc.; it
would affect every other Christian religion that
doesn't agree with the Dominionists. No freedom
of religious choice for anyone. Bush was a big
disappointment to them, but Huckabee is their
man.Think about it. What a pander faced liar
Huckabee is. He scares the hell out of me.

Me too. I think it would be horrific if he got in. The US would become
another Iran. The truth is, I never heard of Huckabee until the present
campaign started. And I don't think that he would be in the position
that he is now if Romney, Rudy, McCain, and the others were so bad. I
just hope that whoever Democrats choose doesn't screw up. At my age, I
wouldn't want to leave the country.

Maybe it's time to take a vacation trip or two to
Canada and England to check out the territory?
Or maybe to the moon which Joseph Smith said
was full of short people in Victorian dress?

I wonder what old Joe Smith was drinking, or smoking.

I've thought of other countries myself, but at my age, I don't know if
I'm up to expatriating. If I have to flee, however, I live only about
25 minutes from the Mexican border. That's assuming that I can get
through.

Yeah. The traffic seems to be one way (from there
to here), unless you're a college student.

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<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <d--dnfmiiJs2vfvanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

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In article <rqCdndF0do6ilP7anZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

December 6, 2007
The Huckabee of Old
Mike Huckabee's rapid ascent in the polls has come as a surprise to
many.
It
began with his performance and win at the Values Voter Debate,
where
he
assured a bevy of second and third-tier right-wing activists that
he
was
different from the other candidates - for while they simply come
"to"
them
seeking support, he comes "from" them.

Huckabee rode the wave from the Debate into the Value Voter Summit
where
he
wooed the audience by telling them everything they longed to

hear from

a
presidential candidate and walked away with the majority of votes
of
those
in attendance in the straw poll.

Since then, Huckabee has been racking up endorsements from
right-wing
figures like Janet Folger, Rick Scarborough, and Tim and Beverly
LaHaye
and
been transformed into a viable front-runner.

In addition, Huckabee has undoubtedly benefited from the fact that
many
in
the press seem smitten with his affability, humor, and "ah shucks"
demeanor - but, as we noted in a report we recently released, they
are
ignoring his "a long record of rhetoric and actions that reveal an
ideologue's
agenda and a zealot's intolerance for differing opinions."

For example, in this recent profile of Huckabee, the New York Times
undertook no real investigation of any of Huckabee's past work or
inflammatory remarks, stating simply:


Mr. Huckabee served as Mr. [James] Robison's announcer, advance
man
and
public relations representative, drumming up attendance and
coverage
for
his
prayer meetings and appearing on broadcasts. (The organization was
based
near Dallas, which is how Mr. Huckabee came to work on the 1980
Reagan
rally). Mr. Robison could be harsh - he yelled in the pulpit and
referred
to
gay people as perverts - but Mr. Huckabee was a genial ambassador

That is all well and good, until you realize just who Huckabee was
working
for:

Likewise, the Times goes on to perfunctorily recount Huckabee's
failed
1992
Senate campaign:


Mr. Huckabee ran largely on social issues like abortion,
portraying
his
opponent, Senator Dale Bumpers, a Democrat who was virtually an
Arkansas
institution, as a pornographer because he supported the National
Endowment
for the Arts. But attacking the popular veteran backfired; Mr.
Huckabee
was
badly beaten.

Of course, there is more to it than that - such as the positions he
put
forward during his campaign, which he discussed with the Associated
Press:

Having gays and lesbians in the military would be a disgrace for
the
nation, according to Huckabee.

"I agree with the leadership of our military, who believe it is
not
in
the
best interest of the armed forces to have homosexuals serving on
active
duty," he said. "I believe to try to legitimize that which is
inherently
illegitimate would be a disgraceful act of government. I feel
homosexuality
is an aberrant, unnatural and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it
can
pose
a dangerous public health risk."

.

Q: Do you approve of a man and a woman living together out of
marriage?

Huckabee: Whether or not I approve of a man and woman living
together
is
not as much of an issue as whether or not it is right and whether
or
not
God
approves of it. The "living together" relationship is demeaning to
the
highest expression of human love and commitment. I reject it as an
alternate
lifestyle, because it robs people of the highest possible
relationship
one
can experience: marriage. We should always strive to encourage
every
human
being to experience his or her full potential and possibilities.

Huckabee also shared his views regarding the proper treatment of
people
who
are infected with HIV:

"It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the
carriers
of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general
population,"
he
said. "This deadly disease, for which there is no cure, is being
treated
as
a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it
represents.

"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something
with
the
AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers
of
this
plague."

This was 1992 - four years after the federal government distributed
a
pamphlet penned by then Surgeon General C. Everett Koop entitled
"Understanding AIDS" which explained that the disease could not be
contracted through everyday contact. And is not as if Huckabee
just
didn't
see the pamphlet, since it "was sent to all 107 million households
in
the
United States in 1988, the largest public health mailing ever
done."

Huckabee likes to portray himself as a different kind of right-wing
leader,
one who is conservative but "is not angry about it." But judging by
his
past
remarks, he appears far more like his right-wing allies than he
would
like
the nation to believe.

Posted by Kyle at 6:30 PM

The more I learn about Huckabee, the less I like it and the more
worried
I become. There is no way that I want to see this fundy preacher man
become president.

Remember Timothy LaHaye, the guy who wrote
the "Left Behind" series and likes to talk about
Armagedden and rivers of blood four feet deep?
He's a big buddy pal of Huckabee.

Oh good grief!

Huckabee
believes in the same violent theist nonsense as
LaHaye and would do his damndest to see that
it happens.

If current occupant doesn't get the ball rolling first.

Hucksterbee is trying to sell everyone
a bill of goodies, but what he really wants is to
continue the Dominionist program in which they
take over the country and force a Dominionist
dictatorship on everyone. Sound crazy? It isn't.
I wouldn't trust Huckabee as far as I could
throw him. And, that wouldn't just affect Jews,
Hindus, Muslims, agnostics, atheists, etc.; it
would affect every other Christian religion that
doesn't agree with the Dominionists. No freedom
of religious choice for anyone. Bush was a big
disappointment to them, but Huckabee is their
man.Think about it. What a pander faced liar
Huckabee is. He scares the hell out of me.

Me too. I think it would be horrific if he got in. The US would become
another Iran. The truth is, I never heard of Huckabee until the present
campaign started. And I don't think that he would be in the position
that he is now if Romney, Rudy, McCain, and the others were so bad. I
just hope that whoever Democrats choose doesn't screw up. At my age, I
wouldn't want to leave the country.

Maybe it's time to take a vacation trip or two to
Canada and England to check out the territory?
Or maybe to the moon which Joseph Smith said
was full of short people in Victorian dress?

I wonder what old Joe Smith was drinking, or smoking.

** BoM witness Martin Harris said it was distilled spirits - and in no
small amount. .