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24 Jun 2007 07:48:24 PM |
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Re: THE JESUS MYTH? |
Rest assured that Jesus isn't a myth.
"For we have not followed cunningly devised fables,
when we made known unto you the power and coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his
majesty" (2 Peter 1:16).
"That which was from the beginning, which we have
heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we
have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the
Word of life. For the life was manifested, and we
have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you
that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was
manifested unto us. That which we have seen and heard
declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship
with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father,
and with his Son Jesus Christ" (1 John 1:1-3).
Without Jesus we would have no hope.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and
the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me"
(John 14:6).
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there
is none other name under heaven given among men,
whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).
"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel
which I preached unto you, which also ye have
received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are
saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you,
unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto
you first of all that which I also received, how that
Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
and that he was buried, and that he rose again the
third day" (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
"God so loved the world, that he gave his only
begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should
not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16).
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| User: "RedFox" |
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| Title: Re: THE JESUS MYTH? |
25 Jun 2007 01:30:52 AM |
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Few Americans know that Thomas Jefferson wrote, in a letter to John Adams:
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the
supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be
classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain
of Jupiter."
Or that Albert Einstein wrote in The New York Times in 1930:
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of
his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God,
in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I
believe that the individual survives the death of his body,
although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or
ridiculous egotism."
Or that Mark Twain wrote in his journal:
"I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous perception
can ever be religious -- unless he purposely shut the eyes of his
mind & keep them shut by force."
Or that Emily Bronte wrote in 1846:
"Vain are the thousand creeds that move men's hearts, unutterably
vain, worthless as wither'd weeds."
Or that Sigmund Freud wrote, in a letter to a friend:
"Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a
secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever."
Or that Thomas Paine wrote in The Age of Reason:
"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian
or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to
terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
Or that Thomas Edison told The New York Times in 1910:
"I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this
talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is
wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life -- our desire to go on
living -- our dread of coming to an end."
Or that Voltaire wrote, in a letter to Frederick the Great:
"Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd, and bloody
religion that has ever infected the world."
Or that Beethoven shunned religion and scorned the clergy.
Or that Abraham Lincoln never joined a church, and once wrote a skeptical
treatise, which friends burned in a stove, to save him from wrecking his
political career.
Or that the motto of Margaret Sanger's birth-control newsletter was: "No
gods, no masters."
Or that Clarence Darrow said, in a 1930 speech in Toronto:
"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose."
Or that President William Howard Taft said, in a letter declining the
presidency of Yale University: "I do not believe in the divinity of Christ,
and there are many other of the postulates of the orthodox creed to which I
cannot subscribe."
Or that Luther Burbank told a newspaper interviewer in 1926:
"As a scientist, I cannot help feeling that all religions are on a
tottering foundation.... I am an infidel today. I do not believe
what has been served to me to believe. I am a doubter, a
questioner, a skeptic. When it can be proved to me that there is
immortality, that there is resurrection beyond the gates of death,
then I will believe. Until then, no."
Or that Bertrand Russell wrote in 1930:
"My own view of religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a
disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human
race."
Or that George Bernard Shaw wrote, in the preface to one of his plays:
"At present there is not a single credible established religion in
the world."
Or that Leo Tolstoy wrote, in response to his excommunication by the Holy
Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church:
"To regard Christ as God, and to pray to him, are to my mind the
greatest possible sacrilege."
Or that Charles Darwin said:
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us,
and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic."
Or that Kurt Vonnegut said:
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith,
I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile."
Or that Gloria Steinem said:
"By the year 2000, we will, I hope, raise our children to believe
in human potential, not God."
Many, perhaps most, of the world's outstanding thinkers, scientists,
writers, reformers -- people who changed Western life -- have been religious
skeptics. But this fact is little known in America. Why?
Because our nation has one last taboo, one unmentionable topic: religious
doubt.
In the daily tumult, it's permissible to challenge any idea, save one.
Supernatural religion -- invisible gods and devils, heavens and hells -- is
off limits. It's acceptable to write that Elvis is alive on a UFO, but not
that God is a figment of the imagination. A few "freethought" journals do
so, but mainstream media mostly stay mum.
There's an unspoken consensus that the subject is too touchy, that it's
"impolite" to question anyone's religion. In a nation of 100 million church
members, with an upsurge of fundamentalism, too many feelings would be hurt.
Why are some believers angered by disbelief? Bertrand Russell offered this
explanation:
"There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man
who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable
myths. Almost inevitably, some part of him is aware that they are
myths, and that he believes them only because they are comforting.
But he dares not face this thought! Moreover, since he is aware,
however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes
furious when they are disputed."
Maybe that's the reason why, for many centuries, you could be killed for
doubting dogmas. Believers killing non-believers was a pattern long before
the Ayatollah Khomeini ordered a holy hit on Salman Rushdie. For example:
In the fifth century B.C., the Greek teacher Protagoras wrote:
"As to the gods, I have no way of knowing either that they exist
or do not exist, or what they are like."
Protagoras was charged with impiety, as were other Greek thinkers. Unlike
Socrates and Anaxagoras, who were sentenced to death, Protagoras merely was
banished from Athens, and his books were burned. As he sailed into exile, he
drowned.
In the year 415, the woman scientist Hypatia, head of the legendary
Alexandria library, was beaten to death by Christian monks who considered
her a pagan. The leader of the monks, Cyril, was canonized a saint.
In the 11th century, Omar Khayyam wrote his exquisite Persian verses on the
futility of trying to discern any purpose of life. He scoffed at believers
yearning for heaven -- "Fools, your reward is neither here nor there" -- and
belittled divine prophecies:
"The revelations of the devout and learn'd / Who rose before us
and as prophets burn'd / Are all but stories, which, awoke from
sleep / They told their comrades, and to sleep return'd."
How did Omar escape execution in the Muslim world, which is known for
beheading "blasphemers"? Actually, Omar is a mystery, and the verses
attributed to him didn't begin surfacing until two centuries after his
death.
In the 1500s, Michel de Montaigne, who created the essay as a literary form,
wrote comments such as:
"Man is certainly stark mad: he cannot make a worm, yet he will
make gods by the dozen."
Although Montaigne lived at a time when "heretics" were burned, he eluded
prosecution. Other thinkers weren't so lucky. In 1553, the physician Michael
Servetus, who discovered the pulmonary circulation of blood, was burned
alive in John Calvin's Geneva for doubting the Trinity. (In my Unitarian
church, the youth group holds a yearly "Michael Servetus wiener roast" in
his memory.)
In 1600, the philosopher Giordano Bruno was burned for teaching that the
earth circles the sun, and that the universe is infinite. He was among
thousands of Inquisition victims.
Later in the 1600s, the Englishman Thomas Hobbes, generally deemed the first
major thinker in what is now called the Age of Reason, wrote:
"Opinion of ghosts, ignorance of second causes, devotion to what
men fear, and taking of things casual for prognostics, consisteth
the natural seeds of religion."
A bishop accused Hobbes of atheism. Parliament ordered an investigation.
Hobbes hastily burned his manuscripts, and escaped with only a ban against
future writings.
Baruch Spinoza, a Jew in Amsterdam, doubted theological dogmas and wrote
lines such as:
"Popular religion may be summed up as a respect for
ecclesiastics."
He was excommunicated by the Dutch synagogue, and lived as a semi-outcast.
Gradually, the iron fist of religion lost its grip in the West, and
disbelief became a bit safer. But there were relapses. For example, a French
teen-ager was beheaded and burned in 1766 for marring a crucifix, singing
irreverent songs and wearing his hat while a church procession passed.
Voltaire tried to save him, but the clergy demanded death, and the French
parliament decreed it.
And Denis Diderot, creator of the first encyclopedia, was jailed for
skepticism, and his writings burned. And English publishers who printed
Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason were jailed for blasphemy.
Despite the risks, thinkers kept on questioning, and the right to doubt
gradually was established -- in the West, but not in the Muslim world, where
"blasphemers" still face death today.
Although the right was won, it remains partly muzzled in America. What
schoolchild is taught that Thomas Jefferson wrote many sneers at
"priestcraft" -- that he was denounced as a "howling atheist" -- and that
his famous vow of "eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the
mind of man," which is engraved in his memorial in Washington, was written
of the clergy?
What student hears scientific explanations of religion, such as this one:
Sigmund Freud said the widespread belief in a father-god arises from
psychology. Each tiny child is awed by his or her father as a seemingly
all-powerful protector and punisher. As maturity comes, the real father
grows less awesome. But the infantile image remains hidden in the
subconscious, and becomes attached to an omnipotent, magical father in an
invisible heaven. Unknowingly, Freud said, believers worship the
long-forgotten toddler impression of the biological father, "clothed in the
grandeur in which he once appeared to the small child."
Although open agnosticism is a no-no in America -- and although
fundamentalism is booming -- supernatural religion is fading among educated
people. America's mainline Protestant churches, formerly the domain of the
elite, have lost millions of members since the 1960s. Intelligent people
don't take miracles seriously, and realize there's no evidence of a spirit
realm.
The old church "thou shalt nots" against sex, liquor, gambling, birth
control, dancing, Sunday shopping, etc., have subsided in our lifetime.
Fundamentalism may be rising, but so is secularism. Educated Americans are
becoming like Europeans, who have mostly abandoned religion. In England, for
example, only a tiny fringe attends church today.
Soon it may be acceptable to challenge the supernatural, as so many great
figures have done. The tacit code of silence -- the last taboo -- may be
near an end. I certainly hope so.
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(Sources of quotations, in sequence as they appear)
Thomas Jefferson - letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823.
Albert Einstein - New York Times commentary, Nov. 9, 1930.
Mark Twain - Mark Twain's Notebooks and Journals, edited by Frederick
Anderson, 1979, notebook 27, August 1887-July 1888.
Emily Bronte - No Coward Soul, January 1846.
Sigmund Freud - letter to Charles Singer.
Thomas Paine - The Age of Reason, 1794.
Thomas Edison - interview in The New York Times, Oct. 2, 1910, front of
Magazine Section, by Edward Marshall.
Voltaire - letter to Frederick the Great, quoted in the Encyclopedia of
Unbelief, Prometheus Books, 1985, p. 715.
Margaret Sanger - masthead of her newsletter, The Woman Rebel, quoted in the
1994 Women of Freethought Calendar, by Carole Gray, Columbus, Ohio.
Clarence Darrow - speech at Toronto, 1930, cited in The Great Quotations. by
George Seldes, Lyle Stuart publisher, 1960, p. 190.
William Howard Taft - The Life and Times of William Howard Taft, by Harry F.
Pringle, Farrar & Rinehart Inc., New York, 1939, p. 373.
Luther Burbank - San Francisco Bulletin, Jan. 22, 1926, page 1, by Edgar
Waite, headline: "I'm an Infidel, Declares Burbank, Casting Doubt on Soul
Immortality Theory."
Bertrand Russell - opening lines of "Has Religion Made Useful Contributions
to Civilization," essay, 1930.
George Bernard Shaw - Major Barbara, preface, final paragraph.
Leo Tolstoy - letter April 4, 1901, to the Holy Synod of the Russian
Orthodox Church, in response to his excommunication, cited in Tolstoy, by
Henri Troyat, Doubleday, 1967, p. 591 - and in The Life of Lyof N. Tolstoi,
by Nathan Haskell Dole, Scribner's, 1923, p. 371-2
Charles Darwin - Life and Letters, cited in Peter's Quotations, by Laurance
J. Peter, Wm. Morrow & Co., 1977, p. 45.
Kurt Vonnegut - Peter's Quotations, p. 191
Gloria Steinem - Peter's Quotations, p. 103.
Russell again - Human Society in Ethics and Politics, 1954.
Protagoras - On the Gods
Omar Khayyam - The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, translated by Edward
FitzGerald, fifth translation, 1889, verse 65, reprinted by Dover Thrift
Editions, 1990, p. 41.
Michel de Montaigne - Apology to Raimond Sebond, 1580, Essays book 2,
chapter 12.
Thomas Hobbes - quoted by Rufus K. Noyes in Views of Religion, L.K. Washburn
publisher, Boston, 1906, p. 30.
Baruch Spinoza - quoted by Eugene Brussell in The Dictionary of Quotable
Definitions, Prentice-Hall, 1970, p. 490.
Jefferson again - vow against tyranny, letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, Sept.
23, 1800.
Freud again - father-God explanation from The Future of an IIllusion, in The
Freud Reader, edited by Peter Gay, W.W. Norton, 1989, p. 694-6 -- quote is
from New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis, cited by Seldes in The
Great Quotations, p. 261.
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"Breaking the Last Taboo" is copyright © 1996, 1997 by James A. Haught. All
rights reserved.
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| User: "bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica" |
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| Title: Re: THE JESUS MYTH? |
25 Jun 2007 01:34:49 AM |
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On Jun 24, 11:30 pm, (RedFox) wrote:
Few Americans know that Thomas Jefferson wrote, in a letter to John Adams:
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the
supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be
classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain
of Jupiter."
Or that Albert Einstein wrote in The New York Times in 1930:
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of
his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God,
in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I
believe that the individual survives the death of his body,
although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or
ridiculous egotism."
Or that Mark Twain wrote in his journal:
"I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous perception
can ever be religious -- unless he purposely shut the eyes of his
mind & keep them shut by force."
Or that Emily Bronte wrote in 1846:
"Vain are the thousand creeds that move men's hearts, unutterably
vain, worthless as wither'd weeds."
Or that Sigmund Freud wrote, in a letter to a friend:
"Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a
secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever."
Or that Thomas Paine wrote in The Age of Reason:
"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian
or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to
terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
Or that Thomas Edison told The New York Times in 1910:
"I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this
talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is
wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life -- our desire to go on
living -- our dread of coming to an end."
Or that Voltaire wrote, in a letter to Frederick the Great:
"Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd, and bloody
religion that has ever infected the world."
Or that Beethoven shunned religion and scorned the clergy.
Or that Abraham Lincoln never joined a church, and once wrote a skeptical
treatise, which friends burned in a stove, to save him from wrecking his
political career.
Or that the motto of Margaret Sanger's birth-control newsletter was: "No
gods, no masters."
Or that Clarence Darrow said, in a 1930 speech in Toronto:
"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose."
Or that President William Howard Taft said, in a letter declining the
presidency of Yale University: "I do not believe in the divinity of Chris=
t,
and there are many other of the postulates of the orthodox creed to which=
I
cannot subscribe."
Or that Luther Burbank told a newspaper interviewer in 1926:
"As a scientist, I cannot help feeling that all religions are on a
tottering foundation.... I am an infidel today. I do not believe
what has been served to me to believe. I am a doubter, a
questioner, a skeptic. When it can be proved to me that there is
immortality, that there is resurrection beyond the gates of death,
then I will believe. Until then, no."
Or that Bertrand Russell wrote in 1930:
"My own view of religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a
disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human
race."
Or that George Bernard Shaw wrote, in the preface to one of his plays:
"At present there is not a single credible established religion in
the world."
Or that Leo Tolstoy wrote, in response to his excommunication by the Holy
Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church:
"To regard Christ as God, and to pray to him, are to my mind the
greatest possible sacrilege."
Or that Charles Darwin said:
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us,
and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic."
Or that Kurt Vonnegut said:
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith,
I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile."
Or that Gloria Steinem said:
"By the year 2000, we will, I hope, raise our children to believe
in human potential, not God."
Many, perhaps most, of the world's outstanding thinkers, scientists,
writers, reformers -- people who changed Western life -- have been religi=
ous
skeptics. But this fact is little known in America. Why?
Because our nation has one last taboo, one unmentionable topic: religious
doubt.
In the daily tumult, it's permissible to challenge any idea, save one.
Supernatural religion -- invisible gods and devils, heavens and hells -- =
is
off limits. It's acceptable to write that Elvis is alive on a UFO, but not
that God is a figment of the imagination. A few "freethought" journals do
so, but mainstream media mostly stay mum.
There's an unspoken consensus that the subject is too touchy, that it's
"impolite" to question anyone's religion. In a nation of 100 million chur=
ch
members, with an upsurge of fundamentalism, too many feelings would be hu=
rt.
Why are some believers angered by disbelief? Bertrand Russell offered this
explanation:
"There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man
who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable
myths. Almost inevitably, some part of him is aware that they are
myths, and that he believes them only because they are comforting.
But he dares not face this thought! Moreover, since he is aware,
however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes
furious when they are disputed."
Maybe that's the reason why, for many centuries, you could be killed for
doubting dogmas. Believers killing non-believers was a pattern long before
the Ayatollah Khomeini ordered a holy hit on Salman Rushdie. For example:
In the fifth century B.C., the Greek teacher Protagoras wrote:
"As to the gods, I have no way of knowing either that they exist
or do not exist, or what they are like."
Protagoras was charged with impiety, as were other Greek thinkers. Unlike
Socrates and Anaxagoras, who were sentenced to death, Protagoras merely w=
as
banished from Athens, and his books were burned. As he sailed into exile,=
he
drowned.
In the year 415, the woman scientist Hypatia, head of the legendary
Alexandria library, was beaten to death by Christian monks who considered
her a pagan. The leader of the monks, Cyril, was canonized a saint.
In the 11th century, Omar Khayyam wrote his exquisite Persian verses on t=
he
futility of trying to discern any purpose of life. He scoffed at believers
yearning for heaven -- "Fools, your reward is neither here nor there" -- =
and
belittled divine prophecies:
"The revelations of the devout and learn'd / Who rose before us
and as prophets burn'd / Are all but stories, which, awoke from
sleep / They told their comrades, and to sleep return'd."
How did Omar escape execution in the Muslim world, which is known for
beheading "blasphemers"? Actually, Omar is a mystery, and the verses
attributed to him didn't begin surfacing until two centuries after his
death.
In the 1500s, Michel de Montaigne, who created the essay as a literary fo=
rm,
wrote comments such as:
"Man is certainly stark mad: he cannot make a worm, yet he will
make gods by the dozen."
Although Montaigne lived at a time when "heretics" were burned, he eluded
prosecution. Other thinkers weren't so lucky. In 1553, the physician Mich=
ael
Servetus, who discovered the pulmonary circulation of blood, was burned
alive in John Calvin's Geneva for doubting the Trinity. (In my Unitarian
church, the youth group holds a yearly "Michael Servetus wiener roast" in
his memory.)
In 1600, the philosopher Giordano Bruno was burned for teaching that the
earth circles the sun, and that the universe is infinite. He was among
thousands of Inquisition victims.
Later in the 1600s, the Englishman Thomas Hobbes, generally deemed the fi=
rst
major thinker in what is now called the Age of Reason, wrote:
"Opinion of ghosts, ignorance of second causes, devotion to what
men fear, and taking of things casual for prognostics, consisteth
the natural seeds of religion."
A bishop accused Hobbes of atheism. Parliament ordered an investigation.
Hobbes hastily burned his manuscripts, and escaped with only a ban against
future writings.
Baruch Spinoza, a Jew in Amsterdam, doubted theological dogmas and wrote
lines such as:
"Popular religion may be summed up as a respect for
ecclesiastics."
He was excommunicated by the Dutch synagogue, and lived as a semi-outcast.
Gradually, the iron fist of religion lost its grip in the West, and
disbelief became a bit safer. But there were relapses. For example, a Fre=
nch
teen-ager was beheaded and burned in 1766 for marring a crucifix, singing
irreverent songs and wearing his hat while a church procession passed.
Voltaire tried to save him, but the clergy demanded death, and the French
parliament decreed it.
And Denis Diderot, creator of the first encyclopedia, was jailed for
skepticism, and his writings burned. And English publishers who printed
Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason were jailed for blasphemy.
Despite the risks, thinkers kept on questioning, and the right to doubt
gradually was established -- in the West, but not in the Muslim world, wh=
ere
"blasphemers" still face death today.
Although the right was won, it remains partly muzzled in America. What
schoolchild is taught that Thomas Jefferson wrote many sneers at
"priestcraft" -- that he was denounced as a "howling atheist" -- and that
his famous vow of "eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over t=
he
mind of man," which is engraved in his memorial in Washington, was written
of the clergy?
What student hears scientific explanations of religion, such as this one:
Sigmund Freud said the widespread belief in a father-god arises from
psychology. Each tiny child is awed by his or ...
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In article <1182732504.168800.294310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Read
The Bible <bibleverse2@yahoo.com> wrote:
Rest assured that Jesus isn't a myth.
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"The writings in the New Testament were not written by eyewitnesses of an
overpowering divine appearance in the midst of human history. That is the
impression created by the final formation of the New Testament. Dismantled
and given back to the people who produced them, the writings of the New
Testament are the record of three hundred years of intellectual labor in
the interest of a thoroughly human construction.
The effect of the studied selection and arrangement of these texts must
therefore be seen as remarkable. Mythic rationalizations for very
different social notions and community traditions were forged into a
concerted testimony for the one true gospel and its single story line.
Differences among the various traditions represented in this selection
were erased. Mark could be read through the eyes of Paul, and Paul could
be read as a witness to the gospel according to Matthew, and so on. When
combined with the Jewish scriptures, moreover, for the reasons we have
been able to identify, the Christian Bible turns out to be a masterpiece
of invention. It is charged with the intellectual battles and resolutions
of untold numbers of persons who invested in a grand project three
centuries in the making. It finally reads as the epic they imagined to
sustain them, the history of God's plan to establish his kingdom on earth.
To be quite frank about it, the Bible is the product of very energetic and
successful mythmaking on the part of those early Christians.
We are the heirs of that legacy, as we are of the mythmaking of myriad
Christians from that time to this who worked with these texts to produce
yet other cultural configurations. As if taking a jewel in hand to catch
the light in yet another facet, Christians have manipulated the biblical
myths and symbols time and again to see themselves reflected anew
somewhere in its story. The image of the Christ has shifted with each new
epoch of that history, as has the shape of the basilicas and cathedrals
built to rehearse the biblical story. God's universe also had to expand in
order to encompass the vast horizons of the Bible's story of creation and
redemption. And the music of those cosmic spheres has been captured in a
glorious history of Western chants, masses, anthems, and symphonies. The
emergence of the distinctively Christian sense of awe, called worship, was
another inculcation of the biblical epic, as were the Books of Days for
private devotion, the first flowering of Christian art, and the Western
orientation to texts and publications.
These creations of Christian culture have shaped our Western souls, though
some archaic features linger only as a haunting resonance. And we also
know something of the struggle to be emancipated from the cosmic
encasement of the biblical world in our medieval past. From Petrarch's
"discovery" of beauty in the natural world, through the Copernican
revolution, Galileo's science, Renaissance art, the Reformation's revision
of history, the emergence of "secular" theater, the founding of
universities, Enlightenment literature, the industrial revolution, and the
modern history of political theory and the nation-state, the "birth" was
from the biblical womb and the struggle to be free was repeatedly
adolescent. No wonder the Bible is still among us. No wonder the effect of
the biblical epic can still be discerned in our nation's myths, our
leaders'policies, and the people's dreams and attitudes.
But the world is spinning faster now, and the times have changed our hopes
and fears and circumstances as never before. We face a situation in
America, and predicaments around the world, that call for serious
reflection, honest conversation, and hard intellectual labor. Shooting
from the political hip will no longer do. Harking back to the
Judeo-Christian tradition without spelling out what one means does not
help. Facile references to the Bible are sounding shrill. We are very
close to entertaining a public discourse about our nation's Christian
heritage that does not rise above the level of demagoguery.
Thus this book may help. There are, in fact, two ways in which it might
help, both of them due to its description of the historical and
intellectual process of the Bible's formation. One benefit would be to
help us see early Christian history as a chapter in the larger history of
human social formation and mythmaking. That alone would take the edge off
the Bible's mystique and let us analyze its logic just as we do with that
of all other myths, religions, and their cultures.
We have learned, for instance, that the Bible was produced in the process
of social change and that the process included the mythmaking that
eventually produced the Bible. Our study also tells us that mythmaking is
hard work, requires the best intelligence a society can muster, uses lots
of time and energy, and is in the last analysis a collective enterprise
linked to shared interests in (re)making a social construction. And one
more thing. Looking at early Christianity this way tells us that
mythmaking is born both of new ideas and of the rearranging of traditional
images already at hand. Some early Christians (but not all!) did want to
think that they were starting with a big bang, but even to imagine this
they had to work with old myths and models.
Mythmakers never start completely from scratch. But if that is so, if
early Christianity was a human labor in the bricolage (handicraft) of
creating something new from the bits and pieces of ideas at hand, some
new, some old, don't we also have to be circumspect as we do our own
rethinking of what we are about? Thus, a second benefit might be the sense
of distance from the Christian myth that results from such a redescription
of that early history. Seeing that the early Christians had their reasons
for imagining the world the way they did should come as a relief to any
thoughtful person who has wondered about the helpfulness of the gospel
story when tackling the social issues of our time.
Understanding those reasons lets us appreciate the mythmaking of those
early Christians even as we recognize that their reasons for telling their
stories are not good enough to be our reasons for continuing to tell the
stories just as they told them."
Burton Mack "Who Wrote The New Testament" 1995
Posted in the interests of recommendation and review
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Welcome back!
In news:1182732504.168800.294310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
Read The Bible <bibleverse2@yahoo.com> typed:
Rest assured that Jesus isn't a myth.
"For we have not followed cunningly devised fables,
when we made known unto you the power and coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his
majesty" (2 Peter 1:16).
"That which was from the beginning, which we have
heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we
have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the
Word of life. For the life was manifested, and we
have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you
that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was
manifested unto us. That which we have seen and heard
declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship
with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father,
and with his Son Jesus Christ" (1 John 1:1-3).
Without Jesus we would have no hope.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and
the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me"
(John 14:6).
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there
is none other name under heaven given among men,
whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).
"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel
which I preached unto you, which also ye have
received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are
saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you,
unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto
you first of all that which I also received, how that
Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
and that he was buried, and that he rose again the
third day" (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
"God so loved the world, that he gave his only
begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should
not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16).
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