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"Pastor Steve Winter" |
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27 May 2007 10:17:00 PM |
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Re: THE ONENESS OF GOD |
"jondandino" <jcs135@blueyonder.co.uk> spake thusly and wrote:
What they do not realise, overlook or ignore is that the Oneness of God is
through unity and not number.
Well I suppose it is good when polytheists will proudly admit
their polytheism.
But why stop at just three gods in your god squad?
Why do trinitos stop with just 3 godlets in their squad?
If I follow their doctrinal theory that each manifestation of God
theologically requires a personager, I find myself in a quandary.
For it leads me to a larger quantity of personagers, even
including the plant and animal kingdoms. A couple of examples
come to mind, and if manifestation does imply personager, I
certainly would not want to bypass such a personager as a
theological deity, and theoretically thereby possibly
incur the potential wrath of an offended co-equal, god squad
personager.
Here are some of the examples that I have found:
Exodus 3:4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God
called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses,
Moses. And he said, Here [am] I.
Exodus 3:5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes
from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy
ground.
Exodus 3:6 Moreover he said, I [am] the God of thy father, the
God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses
hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
* Wow! a plant personager. Why do the trintos ignore the "plant
person"? If they teach that one god rides on another god's right
hand, how can they reject the "bush" person that clearly was
God?? *
Numbers 22:28 And the LORD opened the mouth of the *****, and she
said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast
smitten me these three times?
* an animal personager * How can the trintos ignore that?
Exodus 13:21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of
a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire,
to give them light; to go by day and night:
Exodus 13:22 He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor
the pillar of fire by night, [from] before the people.
Exodus 40:38 For the cloud of the LORD [was] upon the tabernacle
by day, and fire was on it by night, in the sight of all the
house of Israel, throughout all their journeys.
Here, there appears to be two more personagers, one for the day
and one for the night; or possibly one personager with more than
one manifestation...but that would conflict with the theory that
each manifestation demands personality.. so I'll count 2
personagers here.
I believe that adds up to a total so far (if I add the three
to the ones I found) of 8 full fledged personagers! Except, to
be perfectly honest I have not had the time to do an in depth
search for other personagers, so I do not at all present this
list as complete.
Nor am I presenting the manifestation=personager theory to be
truth, just a theory that I have found interesting to explore
since so many are teaching a 3 person god squad. Just exploring
the trinitarian mind set here (or lack thereof).
So if each "Spirit" demands personality, I found seven more
persons!
Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write;
These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the
seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou
livest, and art dead.
* So here are seven more personagers. *
Revelation 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and
thunderings and voices: and [there were] seven lamps of fire
burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
* Another seven "lamp personagers" *
Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne
and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a
Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes,
which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
* Seven more "eye personagers" *
As I look at these verses I perceive that we may even have 14
more, or maybe even 21! Which would be fascinating if it turned
out that we had over "thirty separate personagers co-equal and
co-eternal" instead of just the aforementioned "three separate
personagers".
I find it fascinating that the different personagers encompass
such great diversity from "spirits to plants, animals and clouds,
to furniture" I had no idea that there were so many
manifestations demanding personality (assuming, of course that
each manifestation is a "separate personager").
I look back in wonder at the old hymn, how it would rhyme?
"Gawwddd in thirty two peerrrrsons blessed '??????'" I am at a
loss as to what the term would be. If 3 personagers = "trinity",
what would 32 personagers equal? I guess it might be best to
wait and see just how many co-equal, co-eternal personagers that
we can find, first. And of course after all that, the disclaimer:
"These 32 are one"
I can't imagine why the "Catholic lite"™ trinity cults stop at
just 3 gods in their "god committee" (but only "one" committee).
Pastor sTeve Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
"That's factual; but not true."- deceiver Robert Sowle 2007
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| Title: Re: THE ONENESS OF GOD |
28 May 2007 12:50:25 AM |
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Could you please stop with the fake redirects they are childish and
you know it.
On May 27, 8:17?pm, Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--S...@-prime.org>
wrote:
"jondandino" <jcs...@blueyonder.co.uk> spake thusly and wrote:
What they do not realise, overlook or ignore is that the Oneness of God is
through unity and not number.
Well I suppose it is good when polytheists will proudly admit
their polytheism.
snip out of context bible verses, history logic etc.
Frankly any deity that would send someone to hell for not
understanding such grey areas is not worth worshipping and that
includes the psyco deity that you have running around your head. With
that being said the concept of the "trinity' has biblical mandate
unlike your make believe deity
http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-text-triadic.htm
Oh and yes the Catholic church has a great deal of defense of the
trinity, and you would not have a bible with out the Catholic church.
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| User: "Pastor Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: THE ONENESS OF GOD |
28 May 2007 11:27:14 PM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
snip out of context bible verses, history logic etc.
You are an ignorant Satanic gutless, obsessed anon coward.
Filthy, cowardly, Satanic trash with nothing to contribute but
lies and whining.
You should be ashamed of your name, little scum, very ashamed!
Pastor Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
"That's factual; but not true."- deceiver Robert Sowle 2007
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: THE ONENESS OF GOD |
30 May 2007 01:51:57 AM |
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On May 28, 9:27?pm, Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--S...@-prime.org>
wrote:
look_another_anon_net_s...@yahoo.com spake thusly and wrote:
snip out of context bible verses, history logic etc.
You are an ignorant Satanic gutless, obsessed anon coward.
LOL compare my posts to yours by sheer number and see who is obsessed
Annon yes as for coward look in the mirror
Filthy, cowardly, Satanic trash with nothing to contribute but
lies and whining.
LOL that is ironic as for whining you do it constantly but I did not
try to sue 20 some odd people because they did not give me my way.
You should be ashamed of your name, little scum, very ashamed!
Not ashamed frankly I dont trust you and that is backed up by over a
decade of your antics.
Pastor Winter
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Your not a pastor
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