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Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"James" |
| Date: |
28 Oct 2006 10:25:44 AM |
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Re: The preexistence of Jesus |
Bosh10@webtv.net
Re: The preexistence of Jesus
Many passages of Scripture refer to the existence of Jesus before his
human life
began. However, the Bible does not teach us that he existed separate and
apart from the Father. On the contrary, in his deity he is the Father
and Creator. The Spirit of Jesus existed from all eternty because He is
God himself.
Let us apply these concepts to various verses of Scripture that speak of
the preexistence of Christ. We can understand John 8:58 ('Before Abraham
was, I am') to be reference to the to the preexistence of Jesus as the
God of the Old Testament. We can understand John 6:62 (" What and if ye
shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before") in the same
way, with Jesus using the phrase "Son Of Man" as the equivalent of "I'
or "me' rather than to emphasize His humanity. In John 16:38 Jesus said,
I came forth from the Father." This, too,
refers to His preexistence as God. The divine nature of Jesus was God
the Father, so the dual-natured Christ could say,"I came forth from the
Father.". This statement may also describe the Word, the mind of God,
becoming the flesh, and being sent into the world.
For those that have a chance to go to your nearest Library or purchase
the book. The Oneness Of God by, David K. Bernard. You will be so happy
that you did. It makes prefectly good sense "Hear, O Israel; the Lord
our God is one Lord" (Deutereronomy 6:4). "God is one" ( Galations
3:20). Amen Have a good day.
Hello,
Actually, the Bible shows that God and Jesus did exist "separate and
apart" from each other. That is because the Bible says that Jesus once
never existed at all, but was eventually created by God. However, God
always existed.
Jesus created by God. Col 1:15,
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
(NASB)
God always existed. Ps 90:2,
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the
world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (NIV)
Sincerely, James
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: The preexistence of Jesus |
29 Oct 2006 01:38:54 PM |
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Hello,
Actually, the Bible shows that God and Jesus did exist "separate and
apart" from each other. That is because the Bible says that Jesus once
never existed at all, but was eventually created by God. However, God
always existed.
jesus and the god are just fairy tales, and not very good ones at that
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: The preexistence of Jesus -- THE BIG LIE |
28 Oct 2006 09:56:36 PM |
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James wrote:
Bosh10@webtv.net
Re: The preexistence of Jesus
Many passages of Scripture refer to the existence of Jesus before his
human life
began. However, the Bible does not teach us that he existed separate and
apart from the Father. On the contrary, in his deity he is the Father
and Creator. The Spirit of Jesus existed from all eternty because He is
God himself.
Let us apply these concepts to various verses of Scripture that speak of
the preexistence of Christ. We can understand John 8:58 ('Before Abraham
was, I am') to be reference to the to the preexistence of Jesus as the
God of the Old Testament. We can understand John 6:62 (" What and if ye
shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before") in the same
way, with Jesus using the phrase "Son Of Man" as the equivalent of "I'
or "me' rather than to emphasize His humanity. In John 16:38 Jesus said,
I came forth from the Father." This, too,
refers to His preexistence as God. The divine nature of Jesus was God
the Father, so the dual-natured Christ could say,"I came forth from the
Father.". This statement may also describe the Word, the mind of God,
becoming the flesh, and being sent into the world.
For those that have a chance to go to your nearest Library or purchase
the book. The Oneness Of God by, David K. Bernard. You will be so happy
that you did. It makes prefectly good sense "Hear, O Israel; the Lord
our God is one Lord" (Deutereronomy 6:4). "God is one" ( Galations
3:20). Amen Have a good day.
Hello,
Actually, the Bible shows that God and Jesus did exist "separate and
apart" from each other. That is because the Bible says that Jesus once
never existed at all, but was eventually created by God. However, God
always existed.
Jesus created by God. Col 1:15,
===>No one wasever "created" by any "god".
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
(NASB)
===>Pauline fantasy.
God always existed. Ps 90:2,
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the
world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (NIV)
===>The Hebrew poet's fantasy.
Sincerely, James
===>The Bible is a collection of ideas, opinions, speculations and
fantasies written by HUMANS.
Of course you can get all sorts of mutually contradictory statements
from it.
The claim that is tis the "word of God" is a BIG LIE!. -- L.
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