Religions > Bible > Re: Theological Question - when does a Man's "Soul" get created?
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24 Oct 2006 01:11:19 PM |
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Re: Theological Question - when does a Man's "Soul" get created? |
"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com>
Re: Theological Question - when does a Man's "Soul" get created?
"gaffo" <gaffo@usenet.net> wrote in message
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any Church writtings on this matter?
created at conception?
created when the World (abam) was created?
which?
just thinking about this a few days ago and was wondering if there was
an Official Doctrine on this.
Why should there be an official doctrine on this. How about using your own
knowledge and what your senses show you.
I would say the soul is created at conception, and that the soul is
developed as the person grows.
Hello,
If by "soul" you mean the popular 'immoral soul' teaching, then please
note my response to gaffo:
"You are assuming a human has an 'immortal soul'. The Bible does not
teach that. You can see this for yourself. The first use of the word
"soul" in relation to a human (its first use is with fish and animals)
is with Adam. When God created Adam, notice what he became when God
made him come to life. Ge 2:7,
"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
(KJV)
Notice here that Adam BECAME a soul, he wasn't 'given' a soul or had
one created for him. As for the other part of that false teaching,
that it is 'immortal', since a "soul" is a whole person, then a "soul"
can die. Eze 18:4,
"Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the
soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." (KJV)
If you hit the library, you will find that the 'immortal soul'
teaching is based on the teachings of Plato and Aristotle. Here is a
sample from the Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia,
"Early Judaism considered the human personality as a whole, without
making a sharp distinction between body and soul....The Christian
doctrine of the soul has been strongly influenced by the philosophies
of Plato and Aristotle."
Thus to answer you question above, the Bible shows that a man IS a
soul, he wasn't 'given' one.
When humans die they go to "hell". (sheol, hades). Both the good and
bad. This "hell" place is the common grave of dead mankind. They have
no conscience existence while there. (see Ec 9:5; Ps 146:3,4) Their
hope is in the upcoming resurrection of the dead, both the good and
the bad. Ac 24:15,
"and I have the same hope in God as these men, that there will be a
resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked." (NIV)
These are the Bible's teachings. And true servants of God go by the
Bible, not the philosophies of men etc.
Sincerely, James
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| Title: Re: Theological Question - when does a Man's "Soul" get created? |
24 Oct 2006 01:38:06 PM |
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"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
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"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com>
Re: Theological Question - when does a Man's "Soul" get created?
"gaffo" <gaffo@usenet.net> wrote in message
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any Church writtings on this matter?
created at conception?
created when the World (abam) was created?
which?
just thinking about this a few days ago and was wondering if there was
an Official Doctrine on this.
Why should there be an official doctrine on this. How about using your own
knowledge and what your senses show you.
I would say the soul is created at conception, and that the soul is
developed as the person grows.
Hello,
If by "soul" you mean the popular 'immoral soul' teaching, then please
note my response to gaffo:
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you at least in part.
Matt. 10:28 - "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill
the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and
body in hell."
This passage would imply that the soul does not cease to exist unless it is
destroyed in hell by God.
"You are assuming a human has an 'immortal soul'. The Bible does not
teach that. You can see this for yourself. The first use of the word
"soul" in relation to a human (its first use is with fish and animals)
is with Adam. When God created Adam, notice what he became when God
made him come to life. Ge 2:7,
"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
(KJV)
Notice here that Adam BECAME a soul, he wasn't 'given' a soul or had
one created for him. As for the other part of that false teaching,
that it is 'immortal', since a "soul" is a whole person, then a "soul"
can die. Eze 18:4,
"Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the
soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." (KJV)
If you hit the library, you will find that the 'immortal soul'
teaching is based on the teachings of Plato and Aristotle. Here is a
sample from the Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia,
"Early Judaism considered the human personality as a whole, without
making a sharp distinction between body and soul....The Christian
doctrine of the soul has been strongly influenced by the philosophies
of Plato and Aristotle."
Thus to answer you question above, the Bible shows that a man IS a
soul, he wasn't 'given' one.
When humans die they go to "hell". (sheol, hades). Both the good and
bad. This "hell" place is the common grave of dead mankind. They have
no conscience existence while there. (see Ec 9:5; Ps 146:3,4) Their
hope is in the upcoming resurrection of the dead, both the good and
the bad. Ac 24:15,
"and I have the same hope in God as these men, that there will be a
resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked." (NIV)
These are the Bible's teachings. And true servants of God go by the
Bible, not the philosophies of men etc.
Sincerely, James
***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************"
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