taught, either implicitly or explicitly, in the Bible.

Carl wrote:

"Glenn" <gamcclary@spiritone.com> wrote in message
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TRINITY DOCTRINE CONTRADICTS SCRIPTURE

No. The Bible, taken in totality and via sola scriptura teaches the Trinity.

this is a false statement: By Sola Scriptura, the doctrine of a triune
god is not taught in the Word of God.

No contradiction.

Yes, your statement is a contradiction.

Quote*:
Among Bible verses cited by opponents of Trinitarianism are those that
claim there is only one God, the Father. Other verses state that Jesus
Christ was a man. Trinitarians explain these apparent contradictions by
reference to the mystery and paradox of the Trinity itself [which is a
circular argument]. This is a partial list of verses implying opposition
to Trinitarianism:

I went ahead and checked your source which turns out to be a Wikipedia entry
which is not a reliable source. Furthermore, the quote above is innacurate
on its own. But you've never bothered to check for accuracy and reliability
in the past so it's no surprise that you've decided to ignore it now since
it suits your purposes.

Regardless if you think the statement is accurate or not, it is, in
fact, completely accurate. The fact is, that trinity doctrine is NOT
taught, either implicitly or explicitly, in the Bible.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia, for example, says, "The doctrine of the
Holy Trinity is not taught [explicitly] in the [Old Testament]"

The quote from the NCE is woefully taken out of context

The entire doctrine of the Trinity is supported by quotes taken out of
context!!

clip trash.

A BRIEF HISTORY OF TRINITY DOCTRINE

Your "brief history" is factually incorrect ...

clip trash again.

Your statement proves nothing.

If you have any facts to prove the following history incorrect, you will
present it.

Your denial of Biblical doctrine ...

clip trash yet again.

Trinity is not "Biblical Doctrine."

What follows IS Biblical:
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ONE GOD
* Matthew 4:10: "Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is
written: "Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only."'"
* John 17:3: "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the
only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
* 1Corinthians 8:5-6: "For even if there are so-called gods, whether
in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many
"lords"), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all
things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus
Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."
* 1Timothy 2:5: "For there is one God, and one mediator between God
and men, the man Christ Jesus"
* James 2:19: "You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the
demons believe that—and shudder."


SON AND FATHER
* Mark 13:32:"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the
angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
* John 5:19: "Jesus gave them this answer: "I tell you the truth,
the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his
Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does."
* John 14:28: "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming
back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the
Father, for the Father is greater than I."
* John 17:20-23: "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for
those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may
be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be
in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given
them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: I
in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the
world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."
* Colossians 1:15: "He is the image of the invisible God, the
firstborn over all creation."
* 1stCorinthians 15:24-28: "Then the end will come, when he hands
over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion,
authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies
under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he "has put
everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been
put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who
put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself
will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God
may be all in all."


OLD TESTAMENT
* John 2:16: And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things
hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
* Acts 3:13: The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God
of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up...
* John 20:17: Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet
ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I
ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God.
* Daniel 7:13: I saw in the night visions, and, behold, [one] like
the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient
of days, and they brought him near before him.
* Psalms 110:1: Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right
hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool.


ONTOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES
* John 17:1-3 Jesus prays to God.
* Hebrews 2:17,18 Hebrews 3:2 Jesus has faith in God.
* Acts 3:13 Jesus is a servant of God.
* Mark 13:32 Revelation 1:1 Jesus does not know things God knows.
* John 4:22 Jesus worships God.
* Revelation 3:12 Jesus has one who is God to him.
* 1stCorinthians 15:28 Jesus is in subjection to God.
* 1stCorinthians 11:1 Jesus' head is God.
* Hebrews 5:7 Jesus has reverent submission, fear, of God.
* Acts 2:36 Jesus is given lordship by God.
* Acts 5:31 Jesus is exalted by God.
* Hebrews 5:10 Jesus is made high priest by God.
* Philippians 2:9 Jesus is given authority by God.
* Luke 1:32,33 Jesus is given kingship by God.
* Acts 10:42 Jesus is given judgment by God.
* Acts 2:24, Romans 10.9, 1 Cor 15:15 "God raised [Jesus] from the
dead".
* Mark 16:19, Luke 22:69, Acts 2:33, Romans 8:34 Jesus is at the
right hand of God.
* 1 Tim 2:5 Jesus is the one human mediator between the one God and man.
* 1 Cor 15:24-28 God put everything, except Himself, under Jesus.

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A BRIEF HISTORY OF TRINITY DOCTRINE

The growth of the doctrine of a triune God, is briefly but plainly, set
forth in the following facts:

A.D. 29 Jesus said, "The Lord our God is one Lord" (Mark 12:29).

A.D. 57 Paul said, "To us there is but one God" (1 Cor. 8:6).

A.D. 96 Clement said, "Christ was sent by God".

A.D. 120 "Apostles' Creed": "I believe in God the Father".

A.D. 150 Justin Martyr, introduces Greek Philosophy.

A.D. 170 The word "Trias", appears first in Christian literature.

A.D. 200. "Trinitas" is first introduced by Tertullian.

A.D. 280 Origen, opposes prayers to Christ.

A.D. 260 Sabellius: "Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three names for the
same God".

A.D. 300 Trinitarian prayers unknown in the Church.

A.D. 325 "Nicene Creed" afflrms Christ to be "Very God of Very God".

A.D. 370 Doxology composed.

A.D. 381. Council of Constantinople invents "Three persons in One God".

A.D. 388 Emperor Theodosius threatens punishment to all who won't
worship the Trinity.

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