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"Steve Winter" |
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05 Oct 2004 11:17:40 PM |
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Re: Tritheism |
"brachypodium" <brachypodium@ntlworld.com> spake thusly and
wrote:
The only Bibles in common use that can support a 'Trinity' is the 'King
James', and, to its translators' deepest shame, the NKJV, but that is only
because they contain a forgery.
What makes you think that the KJV supports the filthy,
polytheistic trinity doctrine?
Whether Satan's servants call their polytheistic philosophies
"trinitarianism", "triunity", or whatever smokescreen or
deception.. Whether they philosophize about pies being sliced
or apples being diced...
The bottom line is that they REJECT Jesus name baptism for the
remission of sins as preached and practiced by the Apostles and
ALL real Christians since then.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Jesus name baptism remits sins!
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Those that really receive the Word of God are baptized in Jesus
name.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were
baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three
thousand souls.
We have all of these proofs that the Apostles baptised using the
Name of Jesus. It astounds me how these trinity preachers can
deceive souls into believing that their filthy false preacher
knows more than the Apostles!
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things
concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they
were baptized, both men and women.
Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they
were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be
baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of
the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye
baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Paul told them to believe on Jesus and what did they immediately
understand that meant?
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.
Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into
Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Paul taught baptism in Jesus Name, but he found that he should
let the local preachers do the baptizing. They were not
baptised in the name of Paul, but rather, in the Name of Jesus.
But we can gain insight from this that a singular NAME was used
in baptism.
1 Corinthians 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for
you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
1 Corinthians 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but
Crispus and Gaius;
1 Corinthians 1:15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in
mine own name.
1 Corinthians 1:16 And I baptized also the household of
Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
The Bible is so clear in it's warning against trinitarianism.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and
vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of
the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all
principality and power:
Trinitarian filth like to publish page after page of their
garbage polytheistic philosophies.
Guess what? Satanic preachers do not want you to put on Christ
by being baptized in Jesus NAME!
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.
Why do Satanic preachers want you to reject the name of Jesus in
baptism?
Well....
2 Cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Cor 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed
into an angel of light.
2 Cor 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers
also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end
shall be according to their works.
2 Tim 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse,
deceiving, and being deceived.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "Robert" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
06 Oct 2004 06:20:40 PM |
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[My apologies... I meant to send this reply to all groups; OE6 only sent
it to alt.christnet.public, which I don't read :)]
I do not at this time want to enter into a debate about the Trinity; I am
just interested in your interpretation of two specific verses (one of which
you quoted below).
The verses (NIV) are:
1. The great commission - Matthew 28:19 -
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name
of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"
2. Philip's ministry in Samaria - Acts 8:15-16 -
"[15] When they arrived, they prayed for them that they might receive the
Holy Spirit, [16] because the Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them;
they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus."
Is Luke not saying in Acts 8:16 that baptism into [exclusively] the name of
the Lord Jesus is not sufficient? Does Jesus not imply that the [singular]
name of all three people should be used in baptism? I would like to know
what your understanding of these verses is.
When Paul claims we must be baptised into the name of the Lord Jesus (Acts
19:4-6), he seems to be exalting the name of Jesus for His redemptive work
(cf. Philippians 2:6-11, and Acts 22:16 as you also quoted), Paul does not
teach a baptism *exclusively* in the name of Jesus.
Many thanks for your time to reply,
Robert
"Steve Winter" <steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org> wrote in message
news:7bs6m09vkc5lr9srfsmgm6cveq2okmppog@4ax.com...
"brachypodium" <brachypodium@ntlworld.com> spake thusly and
wrote:
The only Bibles in common use that can support a 'Trinity' is the 'King
James', and, to its translators' deepest shame, the NKJV, but that is only
because they contain a forgery.
What makes you think that the KJV supports the filthy,
polytheistic trinity doctrine?
Whether Satan's servants call their polytheistic philosophies
"trinitarianism", "triunity", or whatever smokescreen or
deception.. Whether they philosophize about pies being sliced
or apples being diced...
The bottom line is that they REJECT Jesus name baptism for the
remission of sins as preached and practiced by the Apostles and
ALL real Christians since then.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Jesus name baptism remits sins!
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Those that really receive the Word of God are baptized in Jesus
name.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were
baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three
thousand souls.
We have all of these proofs that the Apostles baptised using the
Name of Jesus. It astounds me how these trinity preachers can
deceive souls into believing that their filthy false preacher
knows more than the Apostles!
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things
concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they
were baptized, both men and women.
Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they
were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be
baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of
the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye
baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Paul told them to believe on Jesus and what did they immediately
understand that meant?
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.
Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into
Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Paul taught baptism in Jesus Name, but he found that he should
let the local preachers do the baptizing. They were not
baptised in the name of Paul, but rather, in the Name of Jesus.
But we can gain insight from this that a singular NAME was used
in baptism.
1 Corinthians 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for
you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
1 Corinthians 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but
Crispus and Gaius;
1 Corinthians 1:15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in
mine own name.
1 Corinthians 1:16 And I baptized also the household of
Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
The Bible is so clear in it's warning against trinitarianism.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and
vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of
the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all
principality and power:
Trinitarian filth like to publish page after page of their
garbage polytheistic philosophies.
Guess what? Satanic preachers do not want you to put on Christ
by being baptized in Jesus NAME!
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.
Why do Satanic preachers want you to reject the name of Jesus in
baptism?
Well....
2 Cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Cor 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed
into an angel of light.
2 Cor 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers
also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end
shall be according to their works.
2 Tim 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse,
deceiving, and being deceived.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
06 Oct 2004 10:07:05 PM |
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"Robert" <dontreplybyemail@please.com.au> spake thusly and wrote:
I do not at this time want to enter into a debate about the Trinity; I am
just interested in your interpretation of two specific verses (one of which
you quoted below).
The verses (NIV) are:
1. The great commission - Matthew 28:19 -
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name
of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"
2. Philip's ministry in Samaria - Acts 8:15-16 -
"[15] When they arrived, they prayed for them that they might receive the
Holy Spirit, [16] because the Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them;
they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus."
Jesus is the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy
Ghosts. Real monotheists don't have a problem with that, but
polytheists stumble all over it because it appears to them to
be a contradiction since they really don't know the Jesus Christ
of the Bible but rather worship a man made trinity idol god
squad.
Is Luke not saying in Acts 8:16 that baptism into [exclusively] the name of
the Lord Jesus is not sufficient? Does Jesus not imply that the [singular]
name of all three people should be used in baptism? I would like to know
what your understanding of these verses is.
He was saying that they had not yet received the baptism of the
Holy Ghost. They had the birth of the water but not the birth of
the Spirit.
In Acts 8 you simply could have read the next verse that answers
your question.
Acts 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that
they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were
baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the
Holy Ghost.
That also shows yet again that the Apostles baptised in Jesus
Name. (The Catholic trinity hadn't been invented yet.)
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
07 Oct 2004 09:36:16 PM |
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"Franklin Tennyson" <ftennyson@comcast.net> spake thusly and
wrote:
there is one hugh problem. Jesus never claimed for
himself divinity.
The devil and his filth sure are some brazen liars!
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Before Abraham was, I am.
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you.
Matthew 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they
seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they
understand.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
12 Oct 2004 12:29:51 AM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
Jesus is the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy
Ghosts.
No it is not. The Father was NEVER called "Jesus," and just HOW MANY
Holy "Ghosts" do you believe in?
It is good when false-christian scum like
affirm their polytheism.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the
Father?
False-christian scum like don't know
Jesus at all.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
14 Oct 2004 12:38:14 AM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
And I have CORRECTED you regarding your LIE that I am a polytheist. I
have NEVER believed in more than ONE GOD EVER.
Many of the false-christian scum like
will deny their polytheism even as they labor desperately to
defend it for their pride's sake.
Let's have another good Bible study then!
Though we humans (created in God's image) have body, soul and
spirit we are not each "three separate persons". Though God
manifested Himself as "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" he is not
"three separate persons".
1) God is a Spirit.
John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must
worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
2) God is holy.
I Samuel 2:2 [There is] none holy as the LORD: for [there is]
none beside thee: neither [is there] any rock like our God.
3) God is a "Holy Spirit".
4) Jesus is the "Spirit of truth"
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
5) Jesus was "dwelling with them" and promised to be "in them".
John 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot
receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye
know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
6) The "comforter" is the "Spirit of Christ"
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
7) The "Spirit of Christ" is the "Holy Spirit" is the "Spirit of
Truth"
John 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the
Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and
bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto
you.
8) The Spirit of God visited His creation robed in flesh as the
"Son".
I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the
Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on
in the world, received up into glory.
9) The fullness of God is in Jesus Christ
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of
all principality and power:
10) Jesus IS the "everlasting Father".
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
Father, The Prince of Peace.
11) Those who believe that Jesus is a "separate person" from the
"Father" don't really know Jesus at all.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?
False-christian dirt like "hast not known
Him".
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
14 Oct 2004 09:15:36 AM |
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Hello Steve Winter <steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.pentecostal :
spake thusly and wrote:
And I have CORRECTED you regarding your LIE that I am a polytheist. I
have NEVER believed in more than ONE GOD EVER.
Many of the false-christian scum like
will deny their polytheism even as they labor desperately to
defend it for their pride's sake.
Let's have another good Bible study then!
<snipped out your cut and paste "bible study." Coming from a liar (as
you clearly show above that you are), and a self-styled "pastor" who
does not meet the Biblical qualifications, (NOT above reproach, NOT
having faithful children, NOT EVEN A CHRISTIAN),
we have no interest in you.
In the Name of Jesus Christ,
Christian
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
14 Oct 2004 01:41:41 PM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
<snipped out your cut and paste "bible study."
False-christian scum like don't like to
see Bible studies that expose them for the sham fakes they are.
Let's look at another Bible study:
JD> So other than speaking in tongues, what would you say a
JD>person must do to be able to go to heaven???
Well, the question really needs to be "What does the Bible say?",
because a true preacher's job is to show you things that the
Bible teaches. God commands a preacher:
II Timothy 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God,
and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:
II Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly
furnished unto all good works.
II Timothy 4:1 I charge [thee] therefore before God, and the Lord
Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his
appearing and his kingdom;
II Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.
II Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears;
II Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the
truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
So it is my job as a preacher to "preach the word" and expose
popular "fables". Satanic false-christian scum like
don't like anyone messing with the fables
they are so comfortable with.
In the Bible when sinners asked "what shall we do?" the Apostles
responded (with Peter as the spokesman) and said:
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
They were told to repent, be water baptised in Jesus name to have
their past sins remitted, and to receive the gift of the Holy
Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Then Peter went on to say that this was the plan for "as many as
the Lord our God shall call".
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.
Then about 3000 that received the "word" were water baptised in
Jesus name to have all of their past sins remitted. Sins are
actually washed away when people are baptised using the NAME of
the Lord (His name is Jesus).
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
The other "epistles" like Romans and Ephesians are letters to
people who were already Christians telling them how to "stay
Christian". Acts 2:38 tells you how to BECOME a Christian, then
you need the other books to learn what God expects of Christians.
Unless you first become a Christian by obeying Acts 2:38, the
other epistles aren't really addressed to you and the promises
aren't for you.
Notice how the Apostles founded the churches and what they told
people to do to become Christians.
** Jews when they received the Holy Ghost **
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began
to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
** Samaritans when they received the Holy Ghost **
Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard
that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them
Peter and John:
Acts 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that
they might receive the Holy Ghost:
Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they
were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 8:17 Then laid they [their] hands on them, and they received
the Holy Ghost.
** There was a clear instant sign so that the Apostles knew that
they had received the same Holy Ghost that the Apostles had *
** Gentiles when they received the Holy Ghost **
Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were
astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the
Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify
God. Then answered Peter,
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be
baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of
the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
** John the Baptist's disciples had to be RE- baptised and then
they received the same Holy Ghost **
Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost
since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as
heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized?
And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid [his] hands upon them, the Holy
Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Jews, gentiles, Samaritans; all baptised in JESUS name, all spoke
in tongues when they received the Holy Ghost.
False-christian scum like are not part of
the religion of the Bible.
Pastor Steve Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
14 Oct 2004 07:23:00 PM |
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Hello Steve Winter <steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org>,
you posted in alt.religion.christianity :
spake thusly and wrote:
<snipped out your cut and paste "bible study."
False-christian scum like don't like to
see Bible studies that expose them for the sham fakes they are.
I <snipped> everything else from the false "pastor" who is not
qualified to "pastor" anything but a garbage truck.
You are not above reproach, you do not have faithful children
apparently (you DID say your son was arrested and in jail for
molesting a little girl, didn't you?).
No steve, we just don't like false "preachers" pretending to represent
the God of the Bible, OUR God, but contradicting and lying about
everything they can to discredit the God of the Bible.
I pray for you, steve. We all do, I think.
In the Name of Jesus Christ,
Christian
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| User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
14 Oct 2004 11:19:44 PM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
False-christian scum like don't like to
see Bible studies that expose them for the sham fakes they are.
I <snipped> everything else from the false "pastor" who is not
qualified to "pastor" anything but a garbage truck.
It is good to see the devil's filth like
upset and railing. Let's have yet another Bible study that
exposes him for the sham fake that he is!
Salvation. All churches claim to have it, but if we look at what
they are teaching we see that many of them have starkly different
requirements for salvation. Can two groups of people saying
opposite things both be right? If two groups are teaching
opposite things then at least one and possibly both of them are
wrong. What is a person to do to secure true Biblical
salvation?
I believe that the safest path would be to simply obey what the
Apostles preached and practiced, to obey the Bible.
Now I know the devil has a lot of his PR folks teaching that the
Bible is so complicated that you cannot know it so you might as
well not try. If you fall for that then he gotcha!
Isaiah 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it
shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass
over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though
fools, shall not err therein.
God did not give his Word to confuse or alienate people. He gave
it to show us the way and give us true light and understanding.
Psalms 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light
unto my path.
If we want true salvation then we must look at what was taught by
Jesus Christ, then preached upon His authority by Peter, and then
practiced by the apostles consistently. If we do that then we see
two essential elements that make up the Christian new birth.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except
a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into
the kingdom of God.
Those essential elements are: WATER and SPIRIT. We should take
note that a grown man was told by God manifest in the flesh that
he had to be born of water and that he had to be born of the
Spirit.
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of
eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
I believe it is important that we remember who was being
addressed and why by Jesus. Jesus told a grown man that he still
needed to be born of water and of Spirit. We who are
"Apostolic" or in other words teach what the Apostles taught know
that the "birth of water" is Jesus Name water baptism.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.
The devil's PR folks who fight against the importance of Jesus
Name baptism are not being honest with you or themselves.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
he that believeth not shall be damned.
Yet even with that verse we still have the devil's crowd
deceiving souls. Look at that verse. Is it telling you to do
one thing or two things? I will give you a hint, please
carefully note God's choice of words when he said the word "and".
Let me try to really break this down. If mama sends you to go
to the store and says to buy eggs and milk does that mean that
she only wants eggs?
We know that Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of God.
Why reject what Peter did with those keys. I have actually had
some of the more ignorant of the devil's PR guys try to teach
people that Peter disobeyed Jesus. He said something like, "Well
I will take Jesus's words over Peter's any day." as he was
trying to justify his defiance of the Bible. The devil sure is
fishing for fools in this hour.
If we can't trust the Apostles we have a big problem. Just who
do the devil's PR guys think it was that kept track of what Jesus
said? Do they really think people are stupid enough to believe
that Jesus just penned in the red words Himself?
Speaking of the devil's servants, I feel I should point out
something here. Note that the Word of God does not teach
tolerance towards ministers of Satan.
2 Cor 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off
occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they
glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming
themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel
of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be
transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be
according to their works.
Notice also what role that Satan's crew will try to play. They
will pretend to be teaching righteousness. Let's get back to
talking about Peter and Jesus.
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and
upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell
shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in
heaven.
How can the devil's servants figure that people will be so stupid
that they think they can somehow reject Peter's teachings because
their modern Satanic preacher knows Jesus better? Satan's boys
are really fishing for fools these days.
Anyway, back to our topic of salvation. Peter preached the
"Apostolic" salvation on the Day of Pentecost and the Apostles
adhered to it from then on. That is where we get the concept
"Apostolic Pentecostal". It is really very simple. Those who
are preaching the Pentecostal message that the Apostles preached
are ta da, "Apostolic Pentecostal". I know there are liars who
claim to be who aren't preaching the original message but why
would we be surprised that Satan's crew would lie? Is he not the
father of it? Jesus said to some people:
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your
father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and
abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he
speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the
father of it.
So we don't need to be surprised when the devil's servants lie,
OK?
Back to our salvation topic. We have established that one can't
reject Peter without rejecting the one who gave Peter the keys to
the kingdom of heaven. So let's have a look at what Peter
taught.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both
Lord and Christ.
37 ¶ Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart,
and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and
brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one
of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and
ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all
that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
How can someone in their wildest imagination think that they are
among the "called of God" when they reject the Acts 2:38
salvation that Peter preached on the authority of the Lord Jesus
Christ?
Let me also point out something else here. We see that baptism
is to be done in Jesus Name. Monotheists have no problem with
that, but Satan's polytheistic PR guys really stumble on that and
so often expose themselves that they truly are polytheistic and
really are teaching three god squad members. Something else to
consider is that when people receive the Holy Ghost, they speak
with other tongues.
I know a lot of people fight against this because the devil's PR
guys have found that the best way to keep people from seeking the
baptism of the Holy Ghost is to convince them they already have
it and then just hold them by their pride. But why would someone
desiring and claiming a true Biblical experience be so adamantly
against such a basic Bible principle.
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began
to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy
Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied
I have heard the devil's PR guys teaching that Paul didn't
believe in tongues, but Paul said:
1 Corinthians 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more
than ye all:
There are examples in the Bible where people received the Holy
Ghost before they
were baptised in Jesus Name. There are also other examples
where people were baptised in Jesus Name before they received the
Holy Ghost.
Looking back, Jesus did not say that the order of the birth of
water and birth of spirit was important.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except
a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into
the kingdom of God.
Whenever either ingredient of the Christian New Birth was
missing, the apostles IMMEDIATELY added the missing one. If a
person was baptized in Jesus Name then the Apostles prayed for
them to receive the Holy Spirit. (that also proves that people
don't automatically receive the Holy Ghost when they "believe" as
some of Satan's PR guys teach. When people received the Holy
Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues, the Apostles
immediately baptized them in Jesus Name.
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things
concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they
were baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized,
he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles
and signs which were done.
14 ¶ Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that
Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter
and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they
might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were
baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the
Holy Ghost.
Note how they had been baptized.
Acts 10:44 ¶ While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost
fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished,
as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was
poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then
answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized,
which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.
Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
So how did the Apostles know that Gentiles had received the same
Holy Ghost they had? Now think about all this. Why would
anyone who really loved God and the Bible fight so hard against
basic Bible doctrines? Well, it is because they have become
quite comfortable listening to Satan's sugar coated lies and
Satan just uses their pride like strings to play with them like
puppets.
Those who had even been baptised personally by John the Baptist
were re-baptised in Jesus name for the remission of their sins.
John's baptism was only for a temporary period of time. Jesus
Name baptism does remit sins by the POWER of the shed blood of
God.
Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at
Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to
Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye
believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard
whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And
they said, Unto John’s baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of
repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on
him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the
Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost
came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve.
So with that verse 2 up there, how are Satan's PR guys still
convincing people that they automatically receive the Holy Ghost
when they first "believe"? Hell is going to have a big bunch of
really embarrassed people, eh?
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
How does a person have their sins washed away? Clearly it is by
being baptized in Jesus Name which is the METHOD whereby one
calls on the Name of the Lord. That is the reason that
trinitarians will all die in their sins because they reject Jesus
Name water baptism.
Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are
risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who
hath raised him from the dead.
Note the essentiality of both WATER and SPIRIT:
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so
be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not
the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Notice here that the Bible speaks of the Spirit of God and the
Spirit of Christ as EXACTLY the same Spirit.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
he that believeth not shall be damned.
How could Jesus have been more clear regarding the essentiality
of Jesus Name baptism? False-christians are simply not being
honest with themselves.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except
a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into
the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is
born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Remember here that Jesus was telling a grown man what he STILL
needed to do in order to be saved. The grown man still had to
be reborn of WATER and of the SPIRIT.
This is totally consistent with the plan of salvation that the
"man with the keys to the kingdom" preached on the birthday of
the New Testament Church.
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and
upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell
shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in
heaven.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.
Here is an example where the re-birth of WATER preceded the
re-birth of SPIRIT
Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard
that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them
Peter and John:
Acts 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that
they might receive the Holy Ghost:
Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they
were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 8:17 Then laid they [their] hands on them, and they received
the Holy Ghost.
Here is one where the re-birth of SPIRIT preceded the re-birth of
WATER:
Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were
astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the
Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify
God. Then answered Peter,
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be
baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of
the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Another here where the re-birth of the WATER preceded re-birth of
SPIRIT.
Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at
Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to
Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost
since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as
heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized?
And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid [his] hands upon them, the Holy
Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
The apostles made sure that folks had been re-born both of the
WATER and re-born of the SPIRIT, the Acts 2:38 plan of salvation
that has always been adhered to by true Christianity.
How will Jesus deal with scum like ?
See below:
2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty
angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the
presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at
the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end
be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias
saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Non-obeyers like the false-christian scum
are Biblically "non-believers".
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into
Christ have put on Christ.
Pastor sTeve Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
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15 Oct 2004 06:38:45 PM |
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Hello Pastor Winter JNAHC <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.pentecostal :
spake thusly and wrote:
False-christian scum like don't like to
see Bible studies that expose them for the sham fakes they are.
I <snipped> everything else from the false "pastor" who is not
qualified to "pastor" anything but a garbage truck.
It is good to see the devil's filth like
upset and railing. Let's have yet another Bible study that
exposes him for the sham fake that he is!
Upset and railing? LOL! No stevie, not upset or railing. Simply
nausiated by the pretense of someone so obviously hatefilled and
fraudulant as you pretending to be a "pastor!" You are not qualified,
and your lies and hatred for virtually everyone who is Christian shows
that you serve satan, not Jesus.
And I can <snip> your cut-and-paste crud without reading it as easily
as you can cut-and-past it from your overused scrap heap.
in Christ Jesus,
Christian
(Laughing as I post this)
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15 Oct 2004 11:17:51 PM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
It is good to see the devil's filth like
upset and railing. Let's have yet another Bible study that
exposes him for the sham fake that he is!
Upset and railing? LOL! No stevie, not upset or railing. Simply
nausiated by the pretense of someone so obviously hatefilled
To a filthy false-christian scum like the
truth of the Word of God seems "hateful" because it makes them
uncomfortable to be exposed as fakes.
At least has enough sense to be ashamed
of his identity. These false-christian scum like
sure do believe in what they are
teaching, eh?
Let's have another Bible study that exposes filth like
for the Satanic deceiving scum they
really are!
Why are so many people content in false churches even after they
hear about Acts 2:38 and they know that they haven't obeyed it?
(and Acts 2:39 states that it is for as many as God will call)
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Why are so many people content in three godlet cults even though
the Bible warns so clearly against the trinity?
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy
and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments
of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of
all principality and power:
I have had many tell me even after I show them scriptures like
these that they just KNOW in their heart that they are saved.
They just know in their hearts that they are saved and can never
be lost because some false preacher has convinced them with some
misunderstood scripture.
God has a word that He uses to describe such people. Those
people who trust in their own hearts over the Word of God are
described by God.
See if you can find the adjective in this next verse to describe
the folks in ALL these false churches who are trusting the
feelings of their own hearts.
Proverbs 28:26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but
whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Now what does God say that you are if you trust in the feelings
of your own heart? That's right! You got it!
Why are these people content in these filthy trinity cults?
It's because they are FOOLS.
Are you a happy catholic, are you a happy trinitarian? Well
guess why!
That's right! You got it!
One more time, so that you won't forget it:
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy
and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments
of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of
all principality and power:
Proverbs 28:26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but
whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
You just KNOW in your HEART that you are SAVED, don't you?
What does the Bible say about filth like
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Pastor Steve Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
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16 Oct 2004 09:16:08 AM |
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Hello Pastor Winter JNAHC <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org>,
you posted in alt.religion.christianity :
spake thusly and wrote:
It is good to see the devil's filth like
upset and railing. Let's have yet another Bible study that
exposes him for the sham fake that he is!
Upset and railing? LOL! No stevie, not upset or railing. Simply
nausiated by the pretense of someone so obviously hatefilled
To a filthy false-christian scum like the
truth of the Word of God seems "hateful" because it makes them
uncomfortable to be exposed as fakes.
At least has enough sense to be ashamed
of his identity. These false-christian scum like
sure do believe in what they are
teaching, eh?
<snip>
Not the Word of God, stevie. YOU are hateful, and YOU are the fake,
the one who pretends to be a "pastor," who has a "church" that nobody
seems able to find when they get to your town (doesn't seem to be in
the Yellow Pages or phonebook anywhere), YOU who are not qualified to
be a garbage truck driver, YOU who has a son who was apparently
arrested for molesting a little girl.
YOU are the hatefull one I referred to, stevie, not the word of God.
And YOU KNOW IT.
More lies and fraud from YOU.
Christian
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14 Oct 2004 11:37:32 AM |
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Pastor sTeve Winter
go crawl back under your rock, CROCK
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12 Oct 2004 11:07:42 AM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:29:51 -0400, Steve Winter
<steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
It is good when false-christian scum
False-christian scum
Pastor Winter
alt.bible,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.christnet,alt.christnet.public,
alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christian.baptist,
alt.religion.christian.pentecostal
your little problem CORRECTED, old whinerocerous.........
Is that ALL you can do? Is the only name you can think of for others a
'false christian scum'???? pASStor whiner, you're one sick dud.
MERLE ELAINE MATTHEWS, just another member of the old whino's FCS
Club, and proud of it.
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12 Oct 2004 11:11:32 PM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
MERLE ELAINE MATTHEWS, just another member of the old whino's FCS
Club, and proud of it.
Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame;
wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness
for ever.
So far the false-christian dirt Merle Elaine Matthews always
changes the subject when she is asked what the difference is
between the trinity that she worships and the trinity that the
pope worships.
In what way is Merle's three headed Roman idol god squad
different from the popes three headed Roman idol god squad?
In what way is Merle's trinity cult baptism different
than the pope's trinity cult baptism?
Merle Elaine Matthews is merely "Catholic lite"<tm> railing
at her spiritual mama.
Pastor Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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13 Oct 2004 02:13:47 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:11:32 -0400, Steve Winter
<steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
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repetetive, usleess trash bagged, tagged and tossed to the curb for
immediate pickup.
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14 Oct 2004 01:37:55 PM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
repetetive, usleess trash bagged, tagged and tossed to the curb for
immediate pickup.
So far the vile, deceiving, false-christian dirt Merle Elaine
Matthews always changes the subject when she is asked what the
difference is between the trinity that she worships and the
trinity that the pope worships.
In what way is Merle's three headed Roman idol god squad
different from the popes three headed Roman idol god squad?
In what way is Merle's trinity cult baptism different
than the pope's trinity cult baptism?
Is not Merle Elaine Matthews merely "Catholic lite"<tm> railing
at her spiritual mama?
Pastor Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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14 Oct 2004 07:16:26 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:37:55 -0400, Steve Winter
<steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
silence, old boy.
your slothful, useless repetition is ridiculous.
BTW, have you apologized to your son yet?
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15 Oct 2004 01:00:06 PM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
your slothful, useless repetition is ridiculous.
We need to remember the difference here. If you follow some
malicious deceiving false-christian scum like Merle Elaine
Matthews you will spend an eternity in a lake of fire. She is a
devil and a liar. If you follow the Bible and the religion that
the Apostles taught and practiced, then God will accept you.
BTW, have you apologized to your son yet?
For what? He had every chance in the world but chose sin as an
adult. The false-christian scum Merle Elaine Matthews only shows
her core ignorance, incompetence and malice.
So far the false-christian dirt Merle Elaine Matthews always
changes the subject when she is asked what the difference is
between the trinity that she worships and the trinity that the
pope worships.
In what way is Merle's three headed Roman idol god squad
different from the popes three headed Roman idol god squad?
In what way is Merle's trinity cult baptism different
than the pope's trinity cult baptism?
Merle Elaine Matthews is merely "Catholic lite"<tm> railing
at her spiritual mama.
These false-christian scum like Merle Elaine Matthews are NOT
your friend as they labor to deceive you into hell!
Pastor Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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15 Oct 2004 03:25:21 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:00:06 -0400, Steve Winter
<steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
NOT your friend as they labor to deceive you into hell!
Pastor Winter
alt.bible,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.christnet,
alt.christnet.public,alt.religion.christian,
alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.religion.christian.pentecostal
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
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| User: "Rod no frivolous" |
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19 Oct 2004 04:33:18 PM |
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Steve Winter wrote:
romath@romath.net spake thusly and wrote:
your slothful, useless repetition is ridiculous.
We need to remember the difference here.
NO...YOU need to remember the difference here...the difference
between the truth and the LIES you spread, Liar Winter......
If you follow some
malicious deceiving false-christian scum like Merle Elaine
Matthews you will spend an eternity in a lake of fire.
Elaine has not lied, and she'll be the first to tell anyone that
if you follow anyone ELSE other than Jesus of scripture, you will
die, not that fake plastic jesus you keep in your JNAHC home church,
crackpot Winter.
She is a
devil and a liar.
Oh contrare dear sir..why do you think it is that spazmodicus
refers to you as "Liar Winter", eh oh thick one ???????
If you follow the Bible and the religion that
the Apostles taught and practiced, then God will accept you.
The only true thing you've said in the whole post. I'll be this caused
you some pain......:>)
BTW, have you apologized to your son yet?
For what? He had every chance in the world but chose sin as an
adult.
Having a shotdown and blowed out sac of monkey crap like you for
a parent doesn't exactly open the doors of opportunity in this world,
and your narrowed vision of what life should be probably drove the
kid into a hopeless depression. If you cared anything for your family
you would seek professional counseling immediately, and there is NO
shame in doing so. It takes some serious intestinal fortitude to admit
that you're screwed up and nedd to be guided out of the forest of
confusion.
Take me seriously steve..I think you're over the edge and sliding
downhill very fast. The amazing thing is that the worse it gets, the
clearer it becomes to those around you, even those untrained in the
mental health field.
The false-christian scum Merle Elaine Matthews only shows
her core ignorance, incompetence and malice.
ROTFLMAO ! Look who's talking about ignorance, incompetence and
malice, of all things !!!!! Ahahahahah...hahah..........hahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ahaha.........I'm winded and can't laugh anymore, my ribs hurt...
Pastor Winter
Rod
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| User: "~~~" |
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20 Oct 2004 12:04:11 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:33:18 -0500, Rod <"no frivolous
lawsuits"@nospam.com> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
The false-christian scum Merle Elaine Matthews only shows
her core ignorance, incompetence and malice.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh HAHAHAAHHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
ROTFLMAO ! Look who's talking about ignorance, incompetence and
malice, of all things !!!!! Ahahahahah...hahah..........hahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ahaha.........I'm winded and can't laugh anymore, my ribs hurt...
CORE IGNORANCE?!!!!!! hahahaaha!! Incompetence! Well, how come I am
still practicing my professions, then, and have been with never a blot
to my license?
Malice? Ha!!! I'm laughing too hard at him to be angry!!!!
Poor old man whiner!! What a kook. I reckon he may stand a good chance
at being elected kook of the YEAR..... if you go to
alt.fan.steve.winter there is an election going on there!! Vote,
please!!!!!!! :O)
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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20 Oct 2004 01:12:51 PM |
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"~~~\"\"~o~V~o~\"\"~~~" <romath@romath.net> spake thusly and
wrote:
CORE IGNORANCE?!!!!!! hahahaaha!! Incompetence! Well, how come I am
still practicing my professions, then, and have been with never a blot
to my license?
Merle Elaine Matthews is a vicious lying false-christian scum.
Why is she so obsessed, railing, and so obviously full of the
devil?
So far the false-christian dirt Merle Elaine Matthews always
changes the subject when she is asked what the difference is
between the trinity that she worships and the trinity that the
pope worships.
In what way is Merle's three headed Roman idol god squad
different from the popes three headed Roman idol god squad?
In what way is Merle's trinity cult baptism different
than the pope's trinity cult baptism?
Merle Elaine Matthews is merely "Catholic lite"<tm> railing
at her spiritual mama.
Pastor Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "" |
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20 Oct 2004 02:09:13 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:12:51 -0400, Steve Winter
<steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
CORE IGNORANCE?!!!!!! hahahaaha!! Incompetence! Well, how come I am
still practicing my professions, then, and have been with never a blot
to my license?
Merle Elaine Matthews is a vicious lying false-christian scum.
Why is she so obsessed, railing, and so obviously full of the
devil?
So far the false-christian dirt Merle Elaine Matthews always
changes the subject when she is asked what the difference is
between the trinity that she worships and the trinity that the
pope worships.
In what way is Merle's three headed Roman idol god squad
different from the popes three headed Roman idol god squad?
In what way is Merle's trinity cult baptism different
than the pope's trinity cult baptism?
Merle Elaine Matthews is merely "Catholic lite"<tm> railing
at her spiritual mama.
Pastor Winter
You're only adding fuel to the fire, whiner.
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| User: "Franklin Tennyson" |
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20 Oct 2004 08:50:32 PM |
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<romath@romath.net> wrote in message
news:isddn0dbjb4dlcnph10dtudprela9jenvt@4ax.com...
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:12:51 -0400, Steve Winter
<steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
CORE IGNORANCE?!!!!!! hahahaaha!! Incompetence! Well, how come I am
still practicing my professions, then, and have been with never a blot
to my license?
Merle Elaine Matthews is a vicious lying false-christian scum.
Why is she so obsessed, railing, and so obviously full of the
devil?
So far the false-christian dirt Merle Elaine Matthews always
changes the subject when she is asked what the difference is
between the trinity that she worships and the trinity that the
pope worships.
In what way is Merle's three headed Roman idol god squad
different from the popes three headed Roman idol god squad?
In what way is Merle's trinity cult baptism different
than the pope's trinity cult baptism?
Merle Elaine Matthews is merely "Catholic lite"<tm> railing
at her spiritual mama.
Pastor Winter
You're only adding fuel to the fire, whiner.
Stevie boy. Such ranting I suppose is so you can go to church Sunday and
brag of how you fought the Devil and his deamons on the internet.
However, will you also tell them I asked for scrripture in the book of Acts,
the Epistles, or Revelations supporting the theory of Jesus only, and all
you did was rant and rave because you could not find even one such scripture
and hoped to cow me into submission or something by getting foul mouthed and
hate filled?
sunday will you tell them how you call people scum. Probably. Seems they are
Bible illeterate.
But there are Christians on this site who are not ignorant and gullable. We
all know about Jesus saying if we say "Racca" weare in danger of the
judgment"? Your favorite word "scum" is comparable to the word "Racca" in
meaning and vileness.
I bet your flock eats it up when you brag and vainly glory in yourself and
how you tried those who said they were apostles wnd were not, how you cast
out devils, and how you purifed the internet. But then Jesus when he told of
the judgment day when he will separate the sheep and goats talks about
people who say "Lord Lord" and only have such tripe to show as proof. Again
I bet every other poster recognizes the reference instantly, we as a group
are not gullable or Bible illeterate.
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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21 Oct 2004 12:11:35 PM |
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"Franklin Tennyson" <ftennyson@comcast.net> spake thusly and
wrote:
However, will you also tell them I asked for scrripture in the book of Acts,
the Epistles, or Revelations supporting the theory of Jesus only, and all
you did was rant and rave because you could not find even one such scripture
and hoped to cow me into submission or something by getting foul mouthed and
hate filled?
While I appreciate your admitting your polytheism, I simply
obeyed Proverbs 26:4
Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest
thou also be like unto him.
Pastor Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "H" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
22 Oct 2004 10:18:14 PM |
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Steve Winter <steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org> wrote in message news:<ubrfn01ebul18ul50ndprkf3rkgtd2r1ii@4ax.com>...
"Franklin Tennyson" <ftennyson@comcast.net> spake thusly and
wrote:
However, will you also tell them I asked for scrripture in the book of Acts,
the Epistles, or Revelations supporting the theory of Jesus only, and all
you did was rant and rave because you could not find even one such scripture
and hoped to cow me into submission or something by getting foul mouthed and
hate filled?
While I appreciate your admitting your polytheism, I simply
obeyed Proverbs 26:4
Christianity, Judaism, and Mohammedism are all
polytheistic religions.
(Job 1:6-7, Job 2:1-2)
That is if you do not count saints or angels.
Not to mention 'Sons of God' and 'Sons of Man'.
Christianity - 4 gods. Yahveh, Jesus, Satan, and
the Holy Ghost.
Judaism and Mohammedism - 2 gods. Yahveh and Satan.
By accepting the Bible and its power, you
implicitly accept Satan and his power.
Either the Bible is in some ways lying, or
Satan does exist.
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Pastor Winter
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
22 Oct 2004 11:49:50 PM |
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(H) spake thusly and wrote:
Christianity, Judaism, and Mohammedism are all
polytheistic religions.
True Christians are not trinitarian. Trinitarians are
polytheists but they are not truly Christians and their religion
does not even resemble the religion of the Apostles in the Bible.
Pastor Winter http://www.islamics.biz
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Tritheism |
22 Oct 2004 11:09:08 PM |
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On 22 Oct 2004 20:18:14 -0700, (H) done went and
wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
Either the Bible is in some ways lying, or
Satan does exist.
The Bible does not lie. Steve the WHINER does.
And yes, Satan DOES exist.
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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22 Oct 2004 11:51:06 PM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
The Bible does not lie. Steve the WHINER does.
If I had ever published a lie the filthy false-christian scum
Merle Elaine Matthews would be able to post more than her empty
accusations.
So far the polytheistic false-christian dirt Merle Elaine
Matthews always changes the subject when she is asked what the
difference is between the trinity that she worships and the
trinity that the pope worships.
In what way is Merle's three headed Roman idol god squad
different from the pope's three headed Roman idol god squad?
In what way is Merle's trinity cult baptism different
than the pope's trinity cult baptism?
Merle Elaine Matthews is merely "Catholic lite"<tm> railing
at her spiritual mama.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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