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"Vera Six" |
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11 Feb 2004 01:11:45 AM |
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Re: Vera's Growing Dumber Spew @ acc-growing-dumber.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling |
Can anybody tell me if that is the Christian way to write about others?
I have never done anything to this fellow, not even changed a
single word with them. He came into the newsgroup where I wrote and
immediately started slandering.
I would like to know the general opinion of the Christians what to think of it...
Mark Tindall has been writing stuff like that about me (and some friends)
for some months now.
I need your help. What can I do to stop this character assassination?
I do not think this is funny, sorry. He thinks he has a right to slander
because I believe in Jesus as Lord and the Bible being God's Holy
Word.
In the name of Jesus Christ,
(who was not God born in the flesh, neither by a virgin,
nor was he resurrected according to Mark Tindall, BTW),
Vera
"Mark and Bev Tindall" <m_b_tindall@tpg.com.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:402992f3@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Vera roted:
I thank all participants on Growing Deeper. :-)
...for growing dumber at
http://www.acc-growing-dumber.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling
Vera CENSORS her website!!!! BABY CHRISTIAN VERA 666 (almost 4 years a
Christian) determines who is a TREW KRISTYUN!!!!
HOW MANY of the CHRISTIAN denominations are EXCLUDED by Griz, Vera and their
SHALLOWSHIP thugs because they DO NOT hold .......
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1. .... the Bible His word. It shall be considered the
ultimate authority in all discussions.
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...but instead use the three-legged stool (like Anglicans) of
1. The Bible (including Apocrypha)
2. Tradition (how Scripture has been interpreted in the past)
3. Human reason
Let us spread the Gospel into the last hidden computer in the
world!!! Come on, there is so much to do. :-) I need your help!
What is Vera's vision for the world??????
THE SAME AS HER FUEHRER GRIZ!!!!
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"Fuehrer Grizzle Guts" rote:
1. What is griz's exact vision of leadership?
The growth and strenghtening of the world-wide fellowship of the body of
Christ. It's not my vision, but God's.
And the name fits too! Christianlife. It is corporate, not solitary.
alt.christnet.christianlife IS A PUBLIC UNMODERATED FORUM in the Alt NG
hierarchy which according to the FAQ for Alt NGs [
http://www.visi.com/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html] ....is a "refuge away
from the control freaks, namespace purists and net.cops ... that maintain
and enforce the mainstream newsgroup guidelines."
We do not need the control freak called Grizzle Guts!!!!
2. How will his vision benefit me and others?
We are not here to benefit you S2me
Typical cult response!
3. If you chose him as your leader by your own free will then does that
mean
you chose him for me of your own free will since I'm a part of acc also?
It means that you accept it as a good vision to follow.
What if Grizzle Guts' vision ISN'T a good vision?????
What is you are opposed to Grizzle Guts' intimidation, abuse and harassment
of OTHER CHRISTIANS????
Remember, you came along after the direction was set and have been quietly
working against it from time to time.
Ooh-wah! Fuehrer Grizzle Guts USURPED this UNMODERATED free newsgroup for
ALL Christians and now thinks its his private playground to vilify and PLONK
other Christians!!!!
If you do not accept it as a good vision, why not join a group where you
can
work "for" something, rather than "against"?
Why doesn't Grizzle Guts follow his OWN WORDS and leave ...just like he has
dictated to other Christians??????
ACC IS A PUBLIC UNMODERATED FORUM in the Alt NG hierarchy which according to
the FAQ for Alt NGs [ http://www.visi.com/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html]
....is a "refuge away from the control freaks, namespace purists and
net.cops ... that maintain and enforce the mainstream newsgroup guidelines."
ACC = alt.christian.christianlife which BY ITS TITLE is dedicated to
ANYTHING which comes up during CHRISTIAN LIFE.
ALL Christians from ALL denominations are welcome and NO Christian is
banned or censored at alt.christnet.christianlife.
4. Do I have to have a medium (leader) to know my Lord and saviour?
Don't be silly2me.
Why doesn't Grizzle Guts stop being silly on this UNMODERATED public forum
for all CHRISTIANS ...not a private playground for Grizzle Guts' silly
little cult!!!
6. Suppose my vision is a tad bit more about the freedom of expressing
things *I* have learned or am learning and the leader doesn't see what I
have learned as a valuable part of who I came to be.
Then if it is a tad more about you it is a tad less about Christ; and
right
there may be the source of a lot of disagreement between us. I appreciate
that you want to share your wisdom. But if it is contrary to God's wisdom
then it will not be accepted AND you will be called on it.
WHO decides if it is contrary to God's wisdom???? Grizzle Guts does!!!!!
Fuehrer Grizzle Guts has NO theological qualification!!!!!
We are specifically told not to fellowship with those who repeatedly
manifest the fruits of darkness. ....
But only to those with Spiritual vision.
If you think it proves your love to enter into fellowship with darkness,
then your vision has deviated from Scripture.
.... there are some things we
simply are not to fellowship with.
This is a typical CULT TACTIC!!!
EXCLUSION FROM OTHER CHRISTIANS!!!
CENSORSHIP, BANNING, PLONKING OTHER CHRISTIANS IS NOT A FRUIT OF THE
SPIRIT!!!!!!!
This should ring alarm bells for EVERY Christian!!!!
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Griz is a drug addict as his VICTIM says ...
"This coming from a drug addict that lives like a hermit in the mountains of
Canada and works a few months out of the year picking up trash, no he is not
a camp councelor! He is a liar and a manipulator..."
The wizdumb of Grizzle guits is shown in his own words
"I'm 34 and have ADD. Trying to convince a Dr. is quite a different
matter."
Grizzle Guts must have diagnosed his own ADD from a bible verse!
Grizzle Guts continues ...
"Living with ADDS for 34 years enables one to learn many 'coping
behaviors' that allows one to pass many child-oriented tests."
Probably the right level of test for an intimidating abusive cult leader!
"The phschologist (sic) I was seeing at the time, an lout who still believes
that ADD is a childhood ailment that one out-grows, took this mickey-mouse
test as absolute proof that not only was I not afflicted with adult ADD, but
I must have psychological and emotional problems that made me think so!"
Grizzle Guts VICTIMS can attest to his many psychological and emotional
problems! A "Fuehrer Complex"????
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Where Jesus is Bored and the SHALLOWSHIP lives! ...
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
BABY CHRISTIAN VERA 666 (3 and a half years a Christian) determines who is a
TREW KRISTYUN!!!!
Many Christians have been thrown off the unmoderated and FREE
alt.christnet.christianlife by Vera and Griz!!!!
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Eight Distinctives Of An Aberrational Christian or Bible-based Group
from http://www.neirr.org/s7-aber2.html
... it is more accurately the gravitation
towards high-control, authoritarian leadership structures that actually make
a group "aberrant". In describing this tendency towards spiritual
totalitarianism, one could accurately depict the methodology in terms of
it's visible manifestation, as does Steve Hassan in his BITE Model of Mind
Control. In our explanation below, however, we address the process in the
specific way that it expresses itself in a Bible-based group, inasmuch as
the beliefs of the group are utilized to create and maintain that strict
authoritarian schema. It is the perversion of otherwise benign belief and
doctrine which becomes the vehicle for the leader(s) to gain control over
the members. ...
I. Scripture Twisting.
This is the most important distinctive from which all other distinctives
flow. Usually there is a deficient concept of Church history or theological
categories. Consequently Scripture is taken out of context, carelessly
applied, and used to justify wrong conclusions (prooftexting). ...
II. Controlling Leader/Leadership.
Frequently, near to total submission is implicitly or explicitly demanded by
the leader/leadership. This is because they have "the mind of Christ,"
special revelation, are "God's anointed," etc.
a.. The leader/leadership has a special pipeline to God with no actual
accountability. This gives to them a special authority and weightiness in
their pronouncements, even in non-essentials.
b.. Scriptures like Hebrews 13:17; Psalm 105:15, etc. are used to
manipulate the member and justify the leader's position. These verses are
taken out of context and were never intended for leaders who are not
accountable.
c.. The leader/leadership often determines the areas of your life that are
important for you to submit in. Refusing their counsel is to be rebellious.
d.. The problem is that members of these aberrational groups tend to
abdicate their decision making power to the group or leader.
III. Separation/Isolation Of The Membership.
Members are separated from the "world" in a variety of ways in order to
protect them from "harmful" influences.
a.. This is couched in spiritual language and is usually sincerely
believed by the leader/leadership as an appropriate and necessary step for
them to take. "We want to help you to become the best in Christ that you can
possibly be. It has been our experience that you can be harmed by living
with..., getting involved in..., reading..., associating with..., etc. This
certainly wouldn't please Jesus, and you might even fall away from the
truth. It has happened in the past."
b.. This separation is often from family, friends, and even other
Christian groups.
IV. The Chosen Few.
Spiritual elitism is often rampant in these aberrational groups. All other
Christians outside your group are either lukewarm or not true believers at
all.
a.. Consequently, salvation is not found outside the walls of the group
and other Christians are "fair game" for proselytizing (ie. conversion to a
group, tradition or belief system).
b.. Aberrational Christian groups rarely, if ever, cooperate with other
Christian groups not associated with them.
V. Uniformity Of Lifestyle.
This uniformity of lifestyle may be manifested in beliefs, dress, language
and living conditions.
a.. The desire is to create a true disciple of Jesus Christ. However, the
issue is what makes a disciple and how is one identified.
b.. This uniformity can intrude in all the private areas of an individuals
life where the Scriptures are silent.
VI. No Dissent.
Because the leadership is authoritarian it follows that there can be no
questioning of God's anointed or prophet.
a.. In non-coercive groups and churches differences on lesser points of
doctrine and practice are tolerated. It is the unity of the Spirit that is
essential. The individuality of the member is always affirmed. However,
minor differences of doctrine and practice are not tolerated in aberrational
groups.
b.. To speak out or to question is to have a rebellious spirit and to
possibly fall under God's wrath.
VII. Traumatic Departure.
Leaving an aberrational Christian Group is always extremely traumatic.
a.. If a member plans on leaving and the leadership finds out there may be
a painful confrontation with the leadership who seek to talk the
"rebellious" member out of leaving.
b.. Frequently, the person may be told, "If you leave bad things will
happen to you. Maybe you will get cancer..., get hit by a car..., lose
everything..., go insane..., and even die."
c.. Leaving is also very traumatic because even though the member no
longer believes in the group, they have been indoctrinated to believe that
salvation does not exist outside their walls. Thus, where can the departing
member go? ...
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Mind-Manipulating Groups: Are you or a Family Member a Victim?
from http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm
The following statements, compiled by Dr. Michael Langone, editor of Cultic
Studies Journal, often characterize manipulative groups. ....
Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. ...
The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its
leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or
an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save
humanity).
The group has a polarized us- versus-them mentality, which causes conflict
with the wider society.
The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for
example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of
mainstream denominations). ....
The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them.
...
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How to Identify SHALLOWSHIP' Counterfeit, Manipulative, and Controlling
System
KEY:
(CHRISTIAN) Content Which Is Biblical - (SHALLOWSHIP) Content Which Is
Authoritarian
(CHRISTIAN) Teaches/matures - (SHALLOWSHIP) Indoctrinates / clones
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1. Leaders open to questions and discuss them - Unquestioning obedience /
Leaders do not discuss questions
2. Truth is the bottom line - Love and loyalty are the bottom line
3. Freedom to form own conclusions - Indoctrination /Leaders' conclusions
must be accepted.
4. Emphasis on unity - Emphasis on uniformity
5. Not elitist / accepts ALL Christians - Elitist / accepts SOME
Christians
6. Open program - Hidden agenda
7. Influences - Manipulates
8. Leaders shepherd (guide) the flock - Leaders "lord" it over the flock
9. Results in diversity, freedom - Results in conformity, rigidity
10. Provides many avenues of service - Allows one avenue of service
...serving their group
11. Individual is responsible to God for his / her life - Individual is
responsible to leaders
12. Individual seeks, discerns and follows God's will - Leaders tell
individual what God's will is
13. Critical thinking encouraged - Analytical thinking hindered
14. Complex, no simple answers - Simplistic approach to life
15. Reasoned approach based on whole counsel of God, full bible in
context, prayer, counsel, circumstances, other information - Pick your
own bible verse to lead you / Choices must conform to leaders' dictates,
leaders' approval
[adapted from Joanne Ruhland 1995]
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| User: "The Last Church" |
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| Title: Re: Vera's Growing Dumber Spew @ acc-growing-dumber.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling |
11 Feb 2004 02:49:30 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:11:45 +0100, "Vera Six"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
I would like to know the general opinion of the Christians what to think of it...
Mark Tindall has been writing stuff like that about me
So what? Mark Trindalls opinion means nothing to anyone.
I need your help. What can I do to stop this character assassination?
Change your character... Stop using a bible as you idol. There is
no authority but the Spirit of Christ. ( That is not a book.)
..
**************************
A preacher is the blind
leading the blind...
The Last Church
http://www.thelastchurch.org
michael@thelastchurch.org
alt.religion.thelastchurch
alt.religion.the-last-church
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| User: "Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Vera's Growing Dumber Spew @ acc-growing-dumber.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling |
11 Feb 2004 10:32:21 PM |
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"The Last Church" <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:p25l20hsj1hhrvlnk4d582llk9g9a2d8et@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:11:45 +0100, "Vera Six"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
I would like to know the general opinion of the Christians what to think
of it...
Mark Tindall has been writing stuff like that about me
So what? Mark Trindalls opinion means nothing to anyone.
I need your help. What can I do to stop this character assassination?
Change your character... Stop using a bible as you idol. There is
no authority but the Spirit of Christ. ( That is not a book.)
Like going to jail, the judge uses the Book and then implies the spirit of
that book of laws, as their authority, one needs the other to make a whole.
.
**************************
A preacher is the blind
leading the blind...
The Last Church
http://www.thelastchurch.org
michael@thelastchurch.org
alt.religion.thelastchurch
alt.religion.the-last-church
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| User: "Phillip Ray Holmes" |
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| Title: Re: Vera's Growing Dumber Spew @ acc-growing-dumber.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling |
12 Feb 2004 11:49:03 AM |
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"Raymond" <NOSPAM-rwknapp@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402b17a5_1@rain.i-cable.com>...
"The Last Church" <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:p25l20hsj1hhrvlnk4d582llk9g9a2d8et@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:11:45 +0100, "Vera Six"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
I would like to know the general opinion of the Christians what to think
of it...
Mark Tindall has been writing stuff like that about me
So what? Mark Trindalls opinion means nothing to anyone.
I need your help. What can I do to stop this character assassination?
Change your character... Stop using a bible as you idol. There is
no authority but the Spirit of Christ. ( That is not a book.)
Like going to jail, the judge uses the Book and then implies the spirit of
that book of laws, as their authority, one needs the other to make a whole.
.
**************************
A preacher is the blind
leading the blind...
The Last Church
http://www.thelastchurch.org
michael@thelastchurch.org
alt.religion.thelastchurch
alt.religion.the-last-church
If you want to see a real devil look at Raymond "LIAR" Knapp he has no
truth in him but he lies to try to make himself appears as an Angel of
light kind of like
his real Master, SATAN. BEWARE of people claimimg to be something
there not.
Jesus said amny would come claiming they were of him and would fool
many and if it were possible even the very elect!
Phillip Ray Holmes
ctn27548@yahoo.com
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| User: "Vera Six" |
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| Title: Re: Vera's Growing Dumber Spew @ acc-growing-dumber.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling |
12 Feb 2004 11:54:28 AM |
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"Phillip Ray Holmes" <ctn27548@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:d8f9d6ea.0402120949.5667b8e1@posting.google.com...
"Raymond" <NOSPAM-rwknapp@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402b17a5_1@rain.i-cable.com>...
"The Last Church" <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:p25l20hsj1hhrvlnk4d582llk9g9a2d8et@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:11:45 +0100, "Vera Six"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
I would like to know the general opinion of the Christians what to think
of it...
Mark Tindall has been writing stuff like that about me
So what? Mark Trindalls opinion means nothing to anyone.
I need your help. What can I do to stop this character assassination?
Change your character... Stop using a bible as you idol. There is
no authority but the Spirit of Christ. ( That is not a book.)
Like going to jail, the judge uses the Book and then implies the spirit of
that book of laws, as their authority, one needs the other to make a whole.
.
**************************
A preacher is the blind
leading the blind...
The Last Church
http://www.thelastchurch.org
michael@thelastchurch.org
alt.religion.thelastchurch
alt.religion.the-last-church
If you want to see a real devil look at Raymond "LIAR" Knapp he has no
truth in him but he lies to try to make himself appears as an Angel of
light kind of like
his real Master, SATAN. BEWARE of people claimimg to be something
there not.
Jesus said amny would come claiming they were of him and would fool
many and if it were possible even the very elect!
Phillip Ray Holmes
ctn27548@yahoo.com
Hi Phillip Ray,
I do not believe you. I have a very high respect for people who
baptize Chinese people in China... Actions speak louder than
words...
Now your turn: What a relationship do you have to Jesus?
God's Bless,
Vera
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| User: "Phillip Ray Holmes" |
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12 Feb 2004 08:29:24 PM |
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"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message news:<c0gekb$17689e$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de>...
"Phillip Ray Holmes" < > schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:d8f9d6ea.0402120949.5667b8e1@posting.google.com...
"Raymond" <NOSPAM-rwknapp@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402b17a5_1@rain.i-cable.com>...
"The Last Church" <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:p25l20hsj1hhrvlnk4d582llk9g9a2d8et@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:11:45 +0100, "Vera Six"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
I would like to know the general opinion of the Christians what to think
of it...
Mark Tindall has been writing stuff like that about me
So what? Mark Trindalls opinion means nothing to anyone.
I need your help. What can I do to stop this character assassination?
Change your character... Stop using a bible as you idol. There is
no authority but the Spirit of Christ. ( That is not a book.)
Like going to jail, the judge uses the Book and then implies the spirit of
that book of laws, as their authority, one needs the other to make a whole.
.
**************************
A preacher is the blind
leading the blind...
The Last Church
http://www.thelastchurch.org
michael@thelastchurch.org
alt.religion.thelastchurch
alt.religion.the-last-church
If you want to see a real devil look at Raymond "LIAR" Knapp he has no
truth in him but he lies to try to make himself appears as an Angel of
light kind of like
his real Master, SATAN. BEWARE of people claimimg to be something
there not.
Jesus said amny would come claiming they were of him and would fool
many and if it were possible even the very elect!
Phillip Ray Holmes
Hi Phillip Ray,
I do not believe you. I have a very high respect for people who
baptize Chinese people in China... Actions speak louder than
words...
Now your turn: What a relationship do you have to Jesus?
God's Bless,
Vera
So what! The Bible says you can believe a lie and be DAMNED! So you
just prove the Bible to be true!
yours truly,
Phillip Ray Holmes
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| User: "Vera Six" |
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| Title: Re: Vera's Growing Dumber Spew @ acc-growing-dumber.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling.doh.dingaling |
13 Feb 2004 02:49:34 AM |
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"Phillip Ray Holmes" <ctn27548@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:d8f9d6ea.0402121829.7e4ba935@posting.google.com...
"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message news:<c0gekb$17689e$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de>...
"Phillip Ray Holmes" <ctn27548@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:d8f9d6ea.0402120949.5667b8e1@posting.google.com...
"Raymond" <NOSPAM-rwknapp@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402b17a5_1@rain.i-cable.com>...
"The Last Church" <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:p25l20hsj1hhrvlnk4d582llk9g9a2d8et@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:11:45 +0100, "Vera Six"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
I would like to know the general opinion of the Christians what to think
of it...
Mark Tindall has been writing stuff like that about me
So what? Mark Trindalls opinion means nothing to anyone.
I need your help. What can I do to stop this character assassination?
Change your character... Stop using a bible as you idol. There is
no authority but the Spirit of Christ. ( That is not a book.)
Like going to jail, the judge uses the Book and then implies the spirit of
that book of laws, as their authority, one needs the other to make a whole.
.
**************************
A preacher is the blind
leading the blind...
The Last Church
http://www.thelastchurch.org
michael@thelastchurch.org
alt.religion.thelastchurch
alt.religion.the-last-church
If you want to see a real devil look at Raymond "LIAR" Knapp he has no
truth in him but he lies to try to make himself appears as an Angel of
light kind of like
his real Master, SATAN. BEWARE of people claimimg to be something
there not.
Jesus said amny would come claiming they were of him and would fool
many and if it were possible even the very elect!
Phillip Ray Holmes
ctn27548@yahoo.com
Hi Phillip Ray,
I do not believe you. I have a very high respect for people who
baptize Chinese people in China... Actions speak louder than
words...
Now your turn: What a relationship do you have to Jesus?
God's Bless,
Vera
So what! The Bible says you can believe a lie and be DAMNED! So you
just prove the Bible to be true!
Strange logics...
It is like you would say it is written in the Bible that no wicked people
will ever go to Heaven, and that is the reason why some are wicked...
(No, do not try to understand that...)
But you are right with that: The Bible IS true.
You have not answered my question above... How comes?
Jesus Christ - the stumbling stone...
Kind regards,
and a candle for you (for better concentration on logics...)
()
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Vera
yours truly,
Phillip Ray Holmes
ctn27548@yahoo.com
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12 Feb 2004 11:51:53 AM |
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"Raymond" <NOSPAM-rwknapp@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402b17a5_1@rain.i-cable.com>...
"The Last Church" <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:p25l20hsj1hhrvlnk4d582llk9g9a2d8et@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:11:45 +0100, "Vera Six"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
I would like to know the general opinion of the Christians what to think
of it...
Mark Tindall has been writing stuff like that about me
So what? Mark Trindalls opinion means nothing to anyone.
I need your help. What can I do to stop this character assassination?
Change your character... Stop using a bible as you idol. There is
no authority but the Spirit of Christ. ( That is not a book.)
Like going to jail, the judge uses the Book and then implies the spirit of
that book of laws, as their authority, one needs the other to make a whole.
.
**************************
A preacher is the blind
leading the blind...
The Last Church
http://www.thelastchurch.org
michael@thelastchurch.org
alt.religion.thelastchurch
alt.religion.the-last-church
If you want to see a real devil look at Raymond "LIAR" Knapp he has no
truth in him but he lies to try to make himself appears as an Angel of
light kind of like
his real Master, SATAN. BEWARE of people claimimg to be something
there not.
Jesus said many would come claiming they were of him and would fool
many and if it were possible even the very elect!
Phillip Ray Holmes
ctn27548@yahoo.com
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