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User: ""
Date: 10 Jan 2006 11:02:42 PM
Object: Re: War was declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaeda by the US congress.Don't let any liars tell you it wasn't
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Mark Fox wrote:
...

If someone tries to tell you that war was not declared against Iraq or
the 9/11 terrorists then refer them to this:


Congress declared War on Iraq in Public law 107-243

...
Nope.
-Thufir
.

User: "* US *"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 11 Jan 2006 06:11:08 AM
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:02:42 GMT,
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Mark Fox wrote:

If someone tries to tell you that war was not declared against Iraq or
the 9/11 terrorists then refer them to this:

Congress declared War on Iraq in Public law 107-243

..

Nope.



-Thufir

Mark Fox is an America-hating traitor supporter
attempting to promote Bush's terrorism. He will
tell any lie to keep the child-rape rates up.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 11 Jan 2006 06:29:07 PM
* wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:02:42 GMT,

wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Mark Fox wrote:

If someone tries to tell you that war was not declared against Iraq or
the 9/11 terrorists then refer them to this:

Congress declared War on Iraq in Public law 107-243

..

Nope.



-Thufir


Mark Fox is an America-hating traitor supporter
attempting to promote Bush's terrorism. He will
tell any lie to keep the child-rape rates up.

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully, argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.
-Thufir
.
User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress.Don't let any liars tell you it was 11 Jan 2006 07:10:44 PM
wrote:

* wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:02:42 GMT,

wrote:


On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Mark Fox wrote:

If someone tries to tell you that war was not declared against Iraq or
the 9/11 terrorists then refer them to this:

Congress declared War on Iraq in Public law 107-243


..

Nope.



-Thufir


Mark Fox is an America-hating traitor supporter
attempting to promote Bush's terrorism. He will
tell any lie to keep the child-rape rates up.



I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully, argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir

The Traitor (Moron Mark) is being abused by his NeoConman handlers to
believe that a State of War automatically abrogates the Constitution and
bestows Pharonic powers on the President.
Marky is far to stupid to understand that this notion is dangerous to
our Republic, and would be roundly rejected by the Founders of this nation.
Moron Mark is either an idiot or a Fascist, most likely both.
HTH, HAND
;D


.
User: "* US *"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 12 Jan 2006 06:35:23 AM
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:10:44 -0500, Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

wrote:

* wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:02:42 GMT,

wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Mark Fox wrote:

If someone tries to tell you that war was not declared against Iraq or
the 9/11 terrorists then refer them to this:

Congress declared War on Iraq in Public law 107-243


Nope.


Mark Fox is an America-hating traitor supporter
attempting to promote Bush's terrorism. He will
tell any lie to keep the child-rape rates up.


I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully, argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.


The Traitor (Moron Mark) is being abused by his NeoConman handlers to
believe that a State of War automatically abrogates the Constitution and
bestows Pharonic powers on the President.

Marky is far to stupid to understand that this notion is dangerous to
our Republic, and would be roundly rejected by the Founders of this nation.

Moron Mark is either an idiot or a Fascist, most likely both.

HTH, HAND

;D

That about sums it up. The bushkultie cowers in irrational hysteria,
hoping that he could plead for his betrayers to protect him instead.
.


User: "* US *"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 12 Jan 2006 06:33:31 AM
On 11 Jan 2006 16:29:07 -0800,
wrote:

* wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:02:42 GMT,

wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Mark Fox wrote:

If someone tries to tell you that war was not declared against Iraq or
the 9/11 terrorists then refer them to this:

Congress declared War on Iraq in Public law 107-243

...
Nope.


Mark Fox is an America-hating traitor supporter
attempting to promote Bush's terrorism. He will
tell any lie to keep the child-rape rates up.


I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully, argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir

It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.
.
User: "Norman Leonski"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 12 Jan 2006 08:40:03 AM

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully, argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir


It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.

It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.
If you think it is, then provide the law that says so and show me the
wording that supports your contention.
.
User: "John Tibbs"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 12 Jan 2006 09:41:50 AM
"Norman Leonski" <norman_leonski@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1137076803.771846.22660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully, argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir


It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.


It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.

If you think it is, then provide the law that says so and show me the
wording that supports your contention.

So no acts of terrorism killing thousands of innocent Americans and others
happened?
You are sick.
jt
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User: "Norman Leonski"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 12 Jan 2006 11:18:12 AM

It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.


It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.

If you think it is, then provide the law that says so and show me the
wording that supports your contention.


So no acts of terrorism killing thousands of innocent Americans and others
happened?
You are sick.

What in the hell does that have to do with what I said?
.
User: "* US *"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 01:17:58 PM
"Mr Blix, speaking to The Independent, said the Attorney General's
legal advice to the Government on the eve of war, giving cover for
military action by the US and Britain, had no lawful justification. He
said it would have required a second United Nations resolution
explicitly authorising the use of force for the invasion of Iraq last
March to have been legal."
http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/030604-blix_says_invasion_o.php
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User: "Paul Hovnanian P.E."

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress.Don't let any liars tell you it was 12 Jan 2006 07:47:30 PM
John Tibbs wrote:


"Norman Leonski" <norman_leonski@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1137076803.771846.22660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully, argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir


It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.


It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.

If you think it is, then provide the law that says so and show me the
wording that supports your contention.


So no acts of terrorism killing thousands of innocent Americans and others
happened?

That was Afghanistan. Not Iraq.

You are sick.

You and the late President Reagan have something very important in
common. You are both losing touch with reality in your twilight years.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
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User: "John Tibbs"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 08:41:51 AM
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:43C706B2.BF4714EC@Hovnanian.com...

John Tibbs wrote:


"Norman Leonski" <norman_leonski@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1137076803.771846.22660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that
US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully,
argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir


It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.


It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.

If you think it is, then provide the law that says so and show me the
wording that supports your contention.


So no acts of terrorism killing thousands of innocent Americans and
others
happened?


That was Afghanistan. Not Iraq.

OH? WTC was in Afghanistan? USS Cole was in Afghanistan? Etc, etc,...

You are sick.


You and the late President Reagan have something very important in
common. You are both losing touch with reality in your twilight years.

Alzheimers only brings conservatives' brains down to liberal levels.


--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
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the first amendment means nil.
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www.newsmax.com
www.nranews.org
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User: "* US *"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 01:22:03 PM
"...international law professors... called a U.S. attack against Iraq "a
fundamental breach of international law (that) would seriously threaten
the integrity of the international legal order that has been in place since
the end of the Second World War..."
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0321-10.htm
Of course, the Bush crime family was traitorously betraying the USA
throughout WWII, also.
.

User: "Paul Hovnanian P.E."

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress.Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 01:04:49 PM
John Tibbs wrote:


"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:43C706B2.BF4714EC@Hovnanian.com...

John Tibbs wrote:


"Norman Leonski" <norman_leonski@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1137076803.771846.22660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that
US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully,
argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir


It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.


It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.

If you think it is, then provide the law that says so and show me the
wording that supports your contention.


So no acts of terrorism killing thousands of innocent Americans and
others
happened?


That was Afghanistan. Not Iraq.


OH? WTC was in Afghanistan?

No. It was in New York. The terrorists took off from Boston. They
entered this country (the last time) from Canada. They received flight
training in Florida. The ringleader resided in Germany while planning
the attack.
Which one of these targets do you suggest we attack?
Please note that Iraq doesn't figure into any of this.

USS Cole was in Afghanistan? Etc, etc,...

The USS Cole was attacked in Yemen. Still not Iraq.
One common thread in all this is al Qaida, the leadership of which
currently resides in Afghanistan, and possibly also Pakistan. To date,
we have had marginal success in rounding any of these people up, but we
have provided them the motivation to recruit new operatives.
The other common thread in all of this is that the original leaders of
the Taliban (and al Qaida) were sponsored by the CIA. Perhaps we don't
want Osama brought into custody for fear of the information he might
reveal regarding the neocon's complicity in establishing terrorist
organizations and destabilizing foreign governments.
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User: "BruceS"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress.Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 03:56:48 PM
Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:

John Tibbs wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:43C706B2.BF4714EC@Hovnanian.com...

John Tibbs wrote:

"Norman Leonski" <norman_leonski@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1137076803.771846.22660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that
US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully,
argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir

I hope "Thufir" is laughing at himself, as taking such a name ensures
that many will laugh at him.

It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.


It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.

If you think it is, then provide the law that says so and show me the
wording that supports your contention.


So no acts of terrorism killing thousands of innocent Americans and
others
happened?

According to Professor Ward Churchill (University of Colorado, in the
People's Republic of Boulder), no. He informs us that those killed were
a bunch of "little Eichmans", all talking into their cell phones and
making illicit financial deals, and therefore deserved what they got.
And if you can't believe a full tenured professor of a respected
university, who can you believe?

That was Afghanistan. Not Iraq.


OH? WTC was in Afghanistan?



No. It was in New York. The terrorists took off from Boston. They
entered this country (the last time) from Canada. They received flight
training in Florida. The ringleader resided in Germany while planning
the attack.

Which one of these targets do you suggest we attack?

Canada. We could more than double our territory, providing lots of room
for transplants from Mexico once we find an excuse to attack it. Don't
attack Florida---according to reliable sources (Dave Barry), it's very
heavily armed. As for Boston and New York, they're not even foreign,
unless you take a cab.

Please note that Iraq doesn't figure into any of this.


USS Cole was in Afghanistan? Etc, etc,...



The USS Cole was attacked in Yemen. Still not Iraq.

One common thread in all this is al Qaida, the leadership of which
currently resides in Afghanistan, and possibly also Pakistan.

You liberals keep pretending there was no link between Al Qaida (sp?)
and Sodom Insane. In fact, they were closely linked for years. SH was
one of AQ's top targets. You can't get much closer than that! Not only
that, but *both* were largely supported and empowered (dare I say
provisioned with nasty weapons?) by the same corrupt bunch of power brokers.

To date,
we have had marginal success in rounding any of these people up, but we
have provided them the motivation to recruit new operatives.

It is my impression that a *lot* of these recruits have been removed
from the picture. Whether it was intentional or not, getting a bunch of
would-be terrorists to voluntarily collect in one place and attempt to
take on the U.S. military has an upside. I just wish it could be done
without the loss of valuable life. It would also be good to not
encourage to terrorist ways those who otherwise wouldn't have such
inclinations.

The other common thread in all of this is that the original leaders of
the Taliban (and al Qaida) were sponsored by the CIA. Perhaps we don't
want Osama brought into custody for fear of the information he might
reveal regarding the neocon's complicity in establishing terrorist
organizations and destabilizing foreign governments.

If the folks who helped bring AQ to power were able to find Osama, they
could quickly make sure he (1) never masterminded another attack on our
interests; and (2) had no chance to embarass GHWB & Co.
.
User: "Alan"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 04:04:22 PM
"BruceS" <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:43c8217a_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...

You liberals keep pretending there was no link between Al Qaida (sp?)
and Sodom Insane. In fact, they were closely linked for years. SH was
one of AQ's top targets. You can't get much closer than that! Not only
that, but *both* were largely supported and empowered (dare I say
provisioned with nasty weapons?) by the same corrupt bunch of power

brokers.


Anybody else catch the news item Christmas day when Bush okayed (with a
smile) an authorization to sell both Pakistan and India over 16 billion
dollars worth of fighter jets? Happy Birthday Jesus.
Alan
.
User: "Paul Hovnanian P.E."

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress.Don't let any liars tell you it was 14 Jan 2006 04:53:15 PM
Alan wrote:


"BruceS" <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:43c8217a_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...

You liberals keep pretending there was no link between Al Qaida (sp?)
and Sodom Insane. In fact, they were closely linked for years. SH was
one of AQ's top targets. You can't get much closer than that! Not only
that, but *both* were largely supported and empowered (dare I say
provisioned with nasty weapons?) by the same corrupt bunch of power

brokers.



Anybody else catch the news item Christmas day when Bush okayed (with a
smile) an authorization to sell both Pakistan and India over 16 billion
dollars worth of fighter jets? Happy Birthday Jesus.

That's one thing the US has been pretty consistent about: destabilizing
the politics of other countries. No doubt, they figure that any
conflicts that may arise will be just that much bloodier if both sides
face each other with more weapons.
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User: "BruceS"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress.Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 04:13:57 PM
Alan wrote:

"BruceS" <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:43c8217a_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...

You liberals keep pretending there was no link between Al Qaida (sp?)
and Sodom Insane. In fact, they were closely linked for years. SH was
one of AQ's top targets. You can't get much closer than that! Not only
that, but *both* were largely supported and empowered (dare I say
provisioned with nasty weapons?) by the same corrupt bunch of power


brokers.


Anybody else catch the news item Christmas day when Bush okayed (with a
smile) an authorization to sell both Pakistan and India over 16 billion
dollars worth of fighter jets? Happy Birthday Jesus.

LOL (literally). Hey, they all those arabs look alike anyway, right?!
What's the problem?
Next, maybe W will sell goods to Syria to match what we've sold to Israel.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 15 Jan 2006 02:31:35 AM
BruceS wrote:
...

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that
US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully,
argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir


I hope "Thufir" is laughing at himself, as taking such a name ensures
that many will laugh at him.

...
Pardon? Did you have a point beyond some vague insinuation about my
name/avatar? I notice that you don't address the content of my post.
-Thufir
.
User: ""

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 15 Jan 2006 03:11:13 PM
wrote:

BruceS wrote:
..

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that
US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully,
argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir


I hope "Thufir" is laughing at himself, as taking such a name ensures
that many will laugh at him.

..

Pardon? Did you have a point beyond some vague insinuation about my
name/avatar? I notice that you don't address the content of my post.

The part you quoted was indeed only about your handle. If it confuses
you that many would find it highly amusing, that only reinforces the
joke.
My other content referenced others' words. I had no response to yours,
with which I agree.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 15 Jan 2006 05:14:52 PM
wrote:
...

I hope "Thufir" is laughing at himself, as taking such a name ensures
that many will laugh at him.

..

Pardon? Did you have a point beyond some vague insinuation about my
name/avatar? I notice that you don't address the content of my post.


The part you quoted was indeed only about your handle. If it confuses
you that many would find it highly amusing, that only reinforces the
joke.
My other content referenced others' words. I had no response to yours,
with which I agree.

Ok then. I don't get the joke (you're calling me stupid?), which you
decline to explain, but it doesn't really matter, I suppose.
-Thufir
.
User: "BruceS"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress.Don't let any liars tell you it was 15 Jan 2006 06:48:09 PM
wrote:

bruces42@hotmail.com wrote:
..

I hope "Thufir" is laughing at himself, as taking such a name ensures
that many will laugh at him.


..

Pardon? Did you have a point beyond some vague insinuation about my
name/avatar? I notice that you don't address the content of my post.


The part you quoted was indeed only about your handle. If it confuses
you that many would find it highly amusing, that only reinforces the
joke.
My other content referenced others' words. I had no response to yours,
with which I agree.



Ok then. I don't get the joke (you're calling me stupid?), which you
decline to explain, but it doesn't really matter, I suppose.

No, I'm not calling you stupid. Consider why you use that name, and
what it means to others. Then think about why that could be considered
humorous. Or not---your choice.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 16 Jan 2006 02:48:15 AM
BruceS wrote:
...

The part you quoted was indeed only about your handle. If it confuses
you that many would find it highly amusing, that only reinforces the
joke.
My other content referenced others' words. I had no response to yours,
with which I agree.



Ok then. I don't get the joke (you're calling me stupid?), which you
decline to explain, but it doesn't really matter, I suppose.


No, I'm not calling you stupid. Consider why you use that name, and
what it means to others. Then think about why that could be considered
humorous. Or not---your choice.

I admit I have no idea what you're talking about. I chose this handle
because I liked the books and the character was interesting. I'm just
not getting your point. In the book, Thufir was a mentat master of
assassins. Perhaps you're referring to the etymology of the word
assassin?
"The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48"
Assassin As*sas"sin, n. F. (cf. It. assassino), fr. Ar.
`hashishin one who has drunk of the hashish. Under its
influence the Assassins of the East, followers of the Shaikh
al-Jabal (Old Man of the Mountain), were said to commit the
murders required by their chief.
One who kills, or attempts to kill, by surprise or secret
assault; one who treacherously murders any one unprepared for
defense.
1913 Webster
-linux dictionary
I never knew that about the connection between what sounds like hashish
and killing; bit of a dichotomy there. Is it the middle east
connection? The idea of logical thought? I'm running out of guesses!
Perhaps you're referring to the fremen and their holy war, drawing
parallel's to the current situation? I didn't care before, but now I'd
like to know what you're on about. What does the handle mean to you?
-Thufir
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User: "Wilbur Slice"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 04:26:18 PM
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:41:51 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:


"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:43C706B2.BF4714EC@Hovnanian.com...

John Tibbs wrote:


"Norman Leonski" <norman_leonski@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1137076803.771846.22660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that
US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully,
argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir


It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.


It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.

If you think it is, then provide the law that says so and show me the
wording that supports your contention.


So no acts of terrorism killing thousands of innocent Americans and
others
happened?


That was Afghanistan. Not Iraq.



OH? WTC was in Afghanistan? USS Cole was in Afghanistan? Etc, etc,...

Oh, that's right... The WTC and USS Cole were in Iraq... I
forgot...
.

User: "* US *"

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 01:24:35 PM
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:41:51 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net> wrote:

... conservatives' ...

How would you know anything about conservatives, Tibbsy?
You're personally nothing of the sort.
.



User: ""

Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 12 Jan 2006 03:28:25 PM
John Tibbs wrote:

"Norman Leonski" <norman_leonski@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1137076803.771846.22660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

I don't even know what his motive for is in pushing this belief that US
declared war against Iraq when he could easily, and succesfully, argue
that a state of war doesn't require a declaration.

-Thufir


It's not a war: it's an illegal invasion.


It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.

If you think it is, then provide the law that says so and show me the
wording that supports your contention.


So no acts of terrorism killing thousands of innocent Americans and others
happened?
You are sick.

...
It can certainly be argued that the US is in a state of war with
al-Qaeda and Iraq, but I'm not sure where that gets nor why anyone
really cares about that technicality.
-Thufir
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Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 01:18:58 PM
"The United States' official March 17, 2003 invasion of the sovereign
state of Iraq cannot be justified by either U.S. or International law."
http://www.uncommonthought.com/newsfeed/archives/030305-invasion_of_iraq_is_.php
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Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 01:16:37 PM
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:41:50 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net> wrote:

So no acts of terrorism killing thousands of innocent Americans and others
happened?

That's a non sequitur, Tibbsy.

... sick.
jt

You sure are. The US Constitution, which you despise,
calls for us to respect treaties requiring that the crimes of
9/11 be investigated and solved, not used as an excuse
to illegally invade countries not in any way involved.
"The Bush team's new doctrine of "preventive war" simply
has no legitimacy under international law. Nazi leaders offered
the same defense at the Nuremberg Tribunal."
http://www.robincmiller.com/iraq6-fr.htm
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Title: Re: War was NOT declared aginst Iraq and Al Qaida by the US congress. Don't let any liars tell you it was 13 Jan 2006 01:14:16 PM
On 12 Jan 2006 06:40:03 -0800, "Norman Leonski" <norman_leonski@fastmail.fm> wrote:

It's not illegal by any standards accepted by the government of the
United States.

You are mistaken and/or lying.
Perle admitted its illegality.
"Law Groups Say US Invasion Illegal"
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/law/2003/0321illegal.htm
The above may be too complex for you to understand.
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