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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Prominent Bethelite"
Date: 16 Jul 2003 07:03:26 PM
Object: Re: What do they do with money?? [they = Watchtower Bosses]
What do filthy Watchtower Bosses do with the money??
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Summary:
The Watchtower is an MLM crap litteritchah-peddling organization using
unpaid slave labor, avoiding and evading taxes and hiding the money in real
estate.
Proof: Below, supplied by one of the idiotic slaves (though of the Wolf
Class, and knowingly lying and lying through his brown teeth, just might be
dumb enough to think he is really doing it for his nutjob "Jehoober Gawd").
In <cc283483.0307160547.5f375abd@posting.google.com>

(Mark Sornson, SPIRITUAL-PIMP FOR THE WATCHTOWER WHOREGANIZATION) wrote -

YOU'VE posted this claim many times, and possibly some
other uninformed ex/anti-JWs have similarly picked it up
from the ether and repeated it. But nothing you or anyone
else has ever posted constitutes proof that the WTS
owns all Kingdom Halls and the land they are built on.

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First example of theocratic war strategy (i.e., lying and deception) by
this filthy JW swine SoreSon.
He uses "argumentation a la strawman". He argues against something which
was never contended.
No one maintained that the WTS (including its numerous corporations, whose
ownerships are cunningly devised to ensure that no legal action can get at
most of the assets) directly owns ****** ALL ****** the Kingdom Halls.
Why did you find it necessary to introduce the strawman, you despicable jW
piece of Satanic excrement?
To onlookers:
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The fact that this little jW cheat finds it necessary to introduce a
strawman is pretty conclusive in itself... ;-)
Seems like Satan isn't directing his earthly organization (i.e. the
Watchtower Blather & Trappem Sicksiety) too well!

To summarize the facts - each local congregation (or
group of congregations, if more than one shares the
hall), forms a non-profit religious corporation (chartered
by the state) which holds title to the land and
building. The corporation officers and directors
are picked from the local elder body or bodies.
The legal work is minimal, but those corporations
(and elders acting as corporate officers) handle the
legal aspects of building/land ownership.

Strawman #2.
It *IS NOT* about who the OFFICERS of the WTS corp (local or otherwise)
are.
It *IS* about who the OWNERS of the WTS corp is.
Right, moronic jW Soreson?
So, let us find out who are the (beneficial, if not nominal i.e. named)
owners of a corp?
The owners are the legal persona (i.e. humans and corps) to whom the final
funds (the residue, after creditors are paid) would go to when the corp is
dissolved or liquidated...
And to find out who the owners are, just read on. <huge grin>

The WTS doesn't typically get involved since a) there
is no need, b) it's waaaay too complicated for the
centralized WTS to have to deal with the details
of KH ownership that are relevant only at the local
level, and c) the WTS has no reason not to trust
each local congregation with KH ownership, especially
since the local congregations do actually pay for
their own buildings.

A mixture of lies and irrelevant commentary. In fact, the Watchtower H.Q.
is INTIMATELY interested in the ownership of the real estate.
Just read on. <huger grin>

As far as I know, the ONLY way that the WTS ends
up owning a KH is under pathological circumstances,
say, if the congregation gets disbanded and the
local corporation gets dissolved. Local corporation
by-laws typically state that corporation officers
must be elders. So, if, for some reason, all of
a congregation's elders were removed, the corporation
would technically no longer exist.

Note that the WTS H.Q. and hierarchy rules (this is the most legalistic
corp imaginable!) contains provisions for it, acting through say a C.O. or
B.O., to remove "elders".
So WTS H.Q. can bring about what SoreSon (technically 100% inaccurately,
but then SoreSon is just another quasi-literate jW mongoloid: a corporation
does not become non-existent just because its officers, or members, die or
are removed!) refers to as the corporation's non-existence.
Therefore, by SoreSon's own admission, the WTS can engineer a liquidation
(winding-up, termination, call it what you will) of the said KH-owning
corp.
:-)
So, all we need to see is to whom will the proceeds of that liquidation of
the corp go - i.e., who gets the $$ from the sale of the corp's assets, or
the assets themselves.
Just read on. <EVEN HUGER GRIN>

The by-laws also
typically contain a clause that assigns the WTS
ownership of the KH if the local holding corporation
gets dissolved. Thus, the KH remains the property
of and under control of Jehovah's Witnesses (by way
of the WTS), and cannot be stolen by private
individuals (who may have a falling out with JWs).

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Claps riotously!
And there the stupid jW nincompoop stooge and spiritual-pimp SoreSon gives
the game away.
If the KH-owning corp makes any attempt to secede from the JWs, the
Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York (or one of its many, many
daughter or sister harlot corporations) GETS OWNERSHIP OF THE KH (by, in
SoreSon's own words, removing the elders and using the bye-laws i.e. the
local corp's legal constitution and operational framework).
SO, THERE WE HAVE IT.
For non-profit corporations, where no profit is routinely distributed, the
ONLY measure of who "owns" it is WHO GETS THE ASSETS IN THE END.
And here, by SoreSon's own admission, the WTS gets the assets - and the
main asset would be the K.H., lovely real estate, well taken care and
maintained of by the local slaves - with all maintenance and upkeep costs
paid by the morons who think "they" somehow own it!!
Hahahahahahahaaaaa!
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Hahahahahahahaaaaa!
Hahahahahahahaaaaa!
Now you see the effect of the ban on higher education imposed by the WTS.
Morons like SoreSon, who actually know some of the facts (and incompetently
lie about the ones they realize are damning to their shameful and
disgraceful "rescue Mamma from the apostates" attempts), are SO STUPID AND
UNEDUCATED as not to realize they have given the whole game away.
Remember -
(JW Elder Mark Sornson) himself admitted
DIRECTLY that if there is a falling out with the JW cause, the WTS H.Q.
gets the assets, pursuant to the bye-laws of the corps who hold the deeds.
;-)
So, who is the beneficial owner?
The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society.
PROVED, THANKS TO MARK SORNSON, JW ELDER.
Q.E.D.
Not only the ultimate owner - they control it too, by having powers of
dismissal over any director, trustee or officer of the local corp.
So we can see why Watchtower HQ chooses not to own so many KHs directly -
that way they would be liable for municipal dues, have to pay for upkeep
maintenance and the like, be unable to get interest on loans given 'for'
the property, etc. And the assets might be seizable if the WTS gets
successfully sued for tens of billions of dollars in a class action for all
the many hundreds of thousands (millions if you include loved ones) of
lives they have blighted with their ENDLESS LIES and CHEATING and DECEPTION
and their cruel SHUNNING ENFORCEMENT + BLACKMAIL and their murderous blood
& vaccination & transplant policies and... and...
This way suits the wicked Watchtower Blather & Trappem Sicksiety much
better. The local congo pays for much/all of the KH, the local congo pays
all the running & upkeep costs and municipal dues, the local congo even
pays interest on any borrowings from the H.Q. (and the capital back too),
the asset is safeguarded from legal actions directed at the boss
corporation - but H.Q. gets to own the KH at the end. And controls it along
the way, because it has the right to appoint and fire the directors of the
local corp. ;-)
The Best Of All Worlds
for a GREEDY, DISHONEST, TRICKY REAL ESTATE CORPORATION, that is!
Get Paid Twice and Get Something for Nothing
and have the gullible brainwashed slaves believe the opposite!
Well done, Bro. Sornson!!
Thanks for your help exposing the whoredom of your Spiritual Mother!
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If the WTS owned the land and building, then when
the building was sold, the money from the sale would
go to the WTS, not the local congregation.

Sornson is an idiot or a liar, but which?
The money NEVER, NEVER goes to the local congo. It goes to the local corp
(unless the ownership was directly by the WTS, in which case the point is
moot as nothing local sees a dime). Sornson is getting his lies muddled
(again!).
And the local corp must use the money to build more real estate for the
WTS. If it does not obey Mamma, we already know what happens BECAUSE
SORNSON HAS ADMITTED IT! The corp's officers get dismissed (because they
are officers only by virtue of being Elders, and the WTS can and does
dismiss elders), and THE ASSETS (viz. the K.H. and all the moneys realized
from it) REVERT TO THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY ** EXACTLY AS SORNSON ALREADY
ADMITTED ** here:

the WTS ends up owning a KH [..] if [..] the local corporation gets
dissolved. Local corporation by-laws typically state that corporation
officers must be elders. So, if, for some reason, all of a congregation's
elders were removed [by the WTS], the corporation would technically no
longer exist. The by-laws also typically contain a clause that assigns the
WTS ownership of the KH if the local holding corporation gets dissolved.

And there the JW admits it.
Q.E.D.

There are NO "JWs themselves" in this newsgroup who
are posting proof that the WTS owns all Kingdom Hall
land and buildings.

Sure; that was a strawman you invented, you deceitful pervert.

-mark.

(Shameful liar, cheat, swindler and spiritual-pimp for the Watchtower)
For:
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The Watchtower Society and the Jehovah's Witnesses Cult is an embodiment of
SPIRITUAL PORNOGRAPHY, a WOLFISH TRICK, a MOST FILTHY LIE, a CHEAT, a SCAM,
a DISGUSTING ABOMINATION, a BLASPHEMOUS INSULT, a WICKED FRAUD, a DISGRACE,
a SCANDAL, a PEDOPHILE PARADISE - and a DAMNED OUTRAGE from start to finish
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trouble" {WT Nov 1880 p1}; "masturbation is no mere innocent pastime but
rather a practice that can lead to homosexual acts" {WT May 15 1970 p315;
also WT Oct 1 1970 p604}; "If heaven were made the receptacle of the
heathen, savages, barbarians, the idiotic, simple, insane and INFANTS, it
would cease to be heaven to a considerable extent, and become a pandemonium
.. billions of ignorant, imbecile and degraded .. never formed characters
[not] fit companions for saints" {WT Oct 15 1896 p245} Fine JW Wisdom!!
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