Religions > Bible > Re: Wherever the Muslims go, God destroys the place.
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"Pastor Frank" |
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Re: Wherever the Muslims go, God destroys the place. |
"Apostle Thomas Batchelor" <thomasbatchelor@juno.com> wrote in message
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God hates the Muslim religion, and God will destroy it. Muhammad
lied;
He's not a prophet. The angel told me that he claimed it. He failed to
believe the gospel. Muhammad was a desert pirate who took Medina from
some Jews. There was water at Medina. The Arabians were idolaters and
God took away their rain, so the forests of Arabia became the desert of
Arabia. After they went across northern Africa, it too became desert.
They went up into Turkey and it too became desert. They went then went
into southern Europe, but the Catholics stopped them. The Muslim
religion
is
fierce, has no savior, is false; and God hates it and will destroy it.
They
even went to Detroit and it deteriorated. They are now in Florida, and
the South. God has prophesied that the Jesus people will fill the earth,
and that He will destroy His enemies. A LOT OF STORMS IN THE SOUTH
LATELY ! Try to convert them to the true living God and Jesus Christ
our Lord. God wants them to hear it before He destroys them. Pray for
me
and you.
Apostle Thomas Batchelor.
Please spend your time glorifying our God and advancing His kingdom, not
trashing other religions, for you know very well, that there is no religious
literature extant which is more bloody than the OT of the Bible. There are
too many Christians who want to be both Jew and Christian, and believe both
the OT AND the NT. See below what the consequences are.
Pastor Frank
For God to kill via a great flood etc. is one thing, and that's why we
call such events "Acts of God". It's quite another to command some of
His children to kill their Semitic brothers and sisters and their children
and life stock, in fact "all that breatheth". Here God is supposed to have
ordered fratricide and that can only be an order from Satan. May no one
think, that the Bible as well as the church and temple are free from Satan
and his minions, for the adversary has access to our hearts and minds even
to the very throne of God Himself (Rv:12:10).
All we have to go on are the inerrant words of Christ, our God
incarnate, and His commandments, all of which command us to love. Nowhere
does Christ endorse killing anyone for any reason. We even are commanded to
love our enemies, for God is our Father which is in Heaven, our Abba, Daddy,
who wishes that no harm should come to any of His children and that all
should come to repentance and be saved (2Pt:3:9). Had the Jews faith in
their Theology, they would have converted the natives of Israel, instead of
"killing all that breatheth", keeping alive only little girls to "do with as
you please" (Moses in Numbers 31:17-18). See below the abomination of hell
at work and what the ultimate consequence as per Biblical prophesy will be.
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded fratricide.
Jews were to kill their Semitic brothers, sisters and their children and
life-stock, in fact they were to "kill all that breatheth" in the entire
country, in order for them to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have
not sown", resulting in the below obscenity, a holocaust of gigantic
proportions.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country, and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.
.
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| User: "Bob Weigel" |
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| Title: Re: Wherever the Muslims go, God destroys the place. |
24 Sep 2004 01:35:34 PM |
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Frank...ya lost me here. FIRST....Jesus 'trashed' the religion of his day
pretty handily. WOE to me if I judge this guy for doing the same ON the
basis of what you said. So...I guess woe to you too.
Secondly, how many times have people tried to contrast for you the
DIFFERENCE between a bloody history like shown forth in the bible....and an
advocation of killing everyone who simply doesn't worship the same God??
The character of the God OF THE BIBLE is QUITE different from this 'Allah'
moon/war god of Muhammed's.
YHWH is slow to anger, patient and longsuffering. He allows people to
do wickedness but hopes they will turn back to him and works towards such an
end by leaving them alive! This Allah...commands that you just go sneak up
and kill them. Big different Frank. Hasn't anyone helped you see that
before. Or..is it that you don't want to see that? I'm kind of confused.
What kind of pastor are you anyway?
I believe both OT and NT. However I beleive that the primary thing
Israel was chosen for happened; bringing forth the messiah. And while God
still may use them in battle, it is to their own loss. Those in Israel who
return to the lord and recognize what he has done should speak up about it.
Then their own people will abhor them and they will be cast out.
Perspective get so tweaked because of our government these days largely. We
are not a christian government. There may be some christians in it. But
regardless we can't expect that they are going to be anything but a
manipulated pawn in the scheme of things. We each need to look individually
to the Lord for our direction and security. Things get a lot simpler
then....-Bob
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:0ET4d.812$hI2.97@fe51.usenetserver.com...
"Apostle Thomas Batchelor" <thomasbatchelor@juno.com> wrote in message
news:5566f$414dffb4$3fbac99a$18725@allthenewsgroups.com...
God hates the Muslim religion, and God will destroy it. Muhammad
lied;
He's not a prophet. The angel told me that he claimed it. He failed
to
believe the gospel. Muhammad was a desert pirate who took Medina from
some Jews. There was water at Medina. The Arabians were idolaters
and
God took away their rain, so the forests of Arabia became the desert of
Arabia. After they went across northern Africa, it too became desert.
They went up into Turkey and it too became desert. They went then went
into southern Europe, but the Catholics stopped them. The Muslim
religion
is
fierce, has no savior, is false; and God hates it and will destroy it.
They
even went to Detroit and it deteriorated. They are now in Florida, and
the South. God has prophesied that the Jesus people will fill the
earth,
and that He will destroy His enemies. A LOT OF STORMS IN THE SOUTH
LATELY ! Try to convert them to the true living God and Jesus Christ
our Lord. God wants them to hear it before He destroys them. Pray
for
me
and you.
Apostle Thomas Batchelor.
Please spend your time glorifying our God and advancing His kingdom,
not
trashing other religions, for you know very well, that there is no
religious
literature extant which is more bloody than the OT of the Bible. There are
too many Christians who want to be both Jew and Christian, and believe
both
the OT AND the NT. See below what the consequences are.
Pastor Frank
For God to kill via a great flood etc. is one thing, and that's why we
call such events "Acts of God". It's quite another to command some of
His children to kill their Semitic brothers and sisters and their children
and life stock, in fact "all that breatheth". Here God is supposed to have
ordered fratricide and that can only be an order from Satan. May no one
think, that the Bible as well as the church and temple are free from Satan
and his minions, for the adversary has access to our hearts and minds even
to the very throne of God Himself (Rv:12:10).
All we have to go on are the inerrant words of Christ, our God
incarnate, and His commandments, all of which command us to love. Nowhere
does Christ endorse killing anyone for any reason. We even are commanded
to
love our enemies, for God is our Father which is in Heaven, our Abba,
Daddy,
who wishes that no harm should come to any of His children and that all
should come to repentance and be saved (2Pt:3:9). Had the Jews faith in
their Theology, they would have converted the natives of Israel, instead
of
"killing all that breatheth", keeping alive only little girls to "do with
as
you please" (Moses in Numbers 31:17-18). See below the abomination of hell
at work and what the ultimate consequence as per Biblical prophesy will
be.
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded fratricide.
Jews were to kill their Semitic brothers, sisters and their children and
life-stock, in fact they were to "kill all that breatheth" in the entire
country, in order for them to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have
not sown", resulting in the below obscenity, a holocaust of gigantic
proportions.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the
Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains
with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye
shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country,
and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the
God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the
abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;
in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements
shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing
out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck
in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh
be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the
name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.
.
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| User: "twofeathers" |
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| Title: Re: Wherever the Muslims go, God destroys the place. |
25 Sep 2004 12:07:48 PM |
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praise allah and god bob, snicker
bob weigelhead wrote at
"Bob Weigel" <dontuwish@nothing.net> wrote in message news:<10l8qhtjk4ijf86@corp.supernews.com>...
Frank...ya lost me here. FIRST....Jesus 'trashed' the religion of his day
pretty handily. WOE to me if I judge this guy for doing the same ON the
basis of what you said. So...I guess woe to you too.
Secondly, how many times have people tried to contrast for you the
DIFFERENCE between a bloody history like shown forth in the bible....and an
advocation of killing everyone who simply doesn't worship the same God??
The character of the God OF THE BIBLE is QUITE different from this 'Allah'
moon/war god of Muhammed's.
YHWH is slow to anger, patient and longsuffering. He allows people to
do wickedness but hopes they will turn back to him and works towards such an
end by leaving them alive! This Allah...commands that you just go sneak up
and kill them. Big different Frank. Hasn't anyone helped you see that
before. Or..is it that you don't want to see that? I'm kind of confused.
What kind of pastor are you anyway?
I believe both OT and NT. However I beleive that the primary thing
Israel was chosen for happened; bringing forth the messiah. And while God
still may use them in battle, it is to their own loss. Those in Israel who
return to the lord and recognize what he has done should speak up about it.
Then their own people will abhor them and they will be cast out.
Perspective get so tweaked because of our government these days largely. We
are not a christian government. There may be some christians in it. But
regardless we can't expect that they are going to be anything but a
manipulated pawn in the scheme of things. We each need to look individually
to the Lord for our direction and security. Things get a lot simpler
then....-Bob
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:0ET4d.812$hI2.97@fe51.usenetserver.com...
"Apostle Thomas Batchelor" <thomasbatchelor@juno.com> wrote in message
news:5566f$414dffb4$3fbac99a$18725@allthenewsgroups.com...
God hates the Muslim religion, and God will destroy it. Muhammad
lied;
He's not a prophet. The angel told me that he claimed it. He failed
to
believe the gospel. Muhammad was a desert pirate who took Medina from
some Jews. There was water at Medina. The Arabians were idolaters
and
God took away their rain, so the forests of Arabia became the desert of
Arabia. After they went across northern Africa, it too became desert.
They went up into Turkey and it too became desert. They went then went
into southern Europe, but the Catholics stopped them. The Muslim
religion
is
fierce, has no savior, is false; and God hates it and will destroy it.
They
even went to Detroit and it deteriorated. They are now in Florida, and
the South. God has prophesied that the Jesus people will fill the
earth,
and that He will destroy His enemies. A LOT OF STORMS IN THE SOUTH
LATELY ! Try to convert them to the true living God and Jesus Christ
our Lord. God wants them to hear it before He destroys them. Pray
for
me
and you.
Apostle Thomas Batchelor.
Please spend your time glorifying our God and advancing His kingdom,
not
trashing other religions, for you know very well, that there is no
religious
literature extant which is more bloody than the OT of the Bible. There are
too many Christians who want to be both Jew and Christian, and believe
both
the OT AND the NT. See below what the consequences are.
Pastor Frank
For God to kill via a great flood etc. is one thing, and that's why we
call such events "Acts of God". It's quite another to command some of
His children to kill their Semitic brothers and sisters and their children
and life stock, in fact "all that breatheth". Here God is supposed to have
ordered fratricide and that can only be an order from Satan. May no one
think, that the Bible as well as the church and temple are free from Satan
and his minions, for the adversary has access to our hearts and minds even
to the very throne of God Himself (Rv:12:10).
All we have to go on are the inerrant words of Christ, our God
incarnate, and His commandments, all of which command us to love. Nowhere
does Christ endorse killing anyone for any reason. We even are commanded
to
love our enemies, for God is our Father which is in Heaven, our Abba,
Daddy,
who wishes that no harm should come to any of His children and that all
should come to repentance and be saved (2Pt:3:9). Had the Jews faith in
their Theology, they would have converted the natives of Israel, instead
of
"killing all that breatheth", keeping alive only little girls to "do with
as
you please" (Moses in Numbers 31:17-18). See below the abomination of hell
at work and what the ultimate consequence as per Biblical prophesy will
be.
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded fratricide.
Jews were to kill their Semitic brothers, sisters and their children and
life-stock, in fact they were to "kill all that breatheth" in the entire
country, in order for them to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have
not sown", resulting in the below obscenity, a holocaust of gigantic
proportions.
--------
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the
Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains
with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye
shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country,
and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the
God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the
abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;
in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements
shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing
out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck
in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh
be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the
name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.
.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Wherever the Muslims go, God destroys the place. |
26 Sep 2004 05:31:37 PM |
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"twofeathers" <gmmullins4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fd347ba7.0409250907.7508fe19@posting.google.com...
bob weigelhead wrote at
"Bob Weigel" <dontuwish@nothing.net> wrote in message
news:<10l8qhtjk4ijf86@corp.supernews.com>...
I believe both OT and NT.
You need to make up you mind, whether you want to be judged by the
Jewish law or by the grace of Christ. You can't have it both ways. Read up
on "the curse of the Law" discourse of Paul.
If you decide to be a follower of Christ you will be judged by His
commandments below, and they exclude all of man's inhumanity to man, not
only in their support and commission, but also in their lack of condemnation
and your lack of effort at preventing repeats.
You just can't cover both bases in the hope that you will benefit from
at least one. You either love others and care about them as you care for
yourself, WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS, or you don't.
Pastor Frank
THE ROYAL LAW OF CHRIST
**Jesus in Mk 12:30: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy
heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy
strength: this is the first commandment.
**31: And the second is alike, namely this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour
as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
**Jesus in Mat 22:40 "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two
commandments."
THE GOLDEN RULE OF CHRIST
Jesus in Matt. 7:12: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men
should do to you, do ye even so to them...."
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| User: "twofeathers" |
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26 Sep 2004 10:59:32 PM |
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(twofeathers) wrote in message news:<fd347ba7.0409250907.7508fe19@posting.google.com>...
praise allah and god bob, snicker
bob weigelhead wrote at
what bob said about himself from his own lips:
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I just have to rub this in for those who enjoy lampooning. :-)
I mentioned I enjoy being around kids a lot...way more than adults.
Now since EVERYONE knows that ALL people are good for is having
sexual acts that PROVES that I'm a PEDOPHILE!! SEE! ISN'T THAT
EASY?? :-)
"Bob Weigel" <dontuwish@nothing.net> wrote in message news:<10l8qhtjk4ijf86@corp.supernews.com>...
Frank...ya lost me here. FIRST....Jesus 'trashed' the religion of his day
pretty handily. WOE to me if I judge this guy for doing the same ON the
basis of what you said. So...I guess woe to you too.
Secondly, how many times have people tried to contrast for you the
DIFFERENCE between a bloody history like shown forth in the bible....and an
advocation of killing everyone who simply doesn't worship the same God??
The character of the God OF THE BIBLE is QUITE different from this 'Allah'
moon/war god of Muhammed's.
YHWH is slow to anger, patient and longsuffering. He allows people to
do wickedness but hopes they will turn back to him and works towards such an
end by leaving them alive! This Allah...commands that you just go sneak up
and kill them. Big different Frank. Hasn't anyone helped you see that
before. Or..is it that you don't want to see that? I'm kind of confused.
What kind of pastor are you anyway?
I believe both OT and NT. However I beleive that the primary thing
Israel was chosen for happened; bringing forth the messiah. And while God
still may use them in battle, it is to their own loss. Those in Israel who
return to the lord and recognize what he has done should speak up about it.
Then their own people will abhor them and they will be cast out.
Perspective get so tweaked because of our government these days largely. We
are not a christian government. There may be some christians in it. But
regardless we can't expect that they are going to be anything but a
manipulated pawn in the scheme of things. We each need to look individually
to the Lord for our direction and security. Things get a lot simpler
then....-Bob
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Apostle Thomas Batchelor" <thomasbatchelor@juno.com> wrote in message
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God hates the Muslim religion, and God will destroy it. Muhammad
lied;
He's not a prophet. The angel told me that he claimed it. He failed
to
believe the gospel. Muhammad was a desert pirate who took Medina from
some Jews. There was water at Medina. The Arabians were idolaters
and
God took away their rain, so the forests of Arabia became the desert of
Arabia. After they went across northern Africa, it too became desert.
They went up into Turkey and it too became desert. They went then went
into southern Europe, but the Catholics stopped them. The Muslim
religion
is
fierce, has no savior, is false; and God hates it and will destroy it.
They
even went to Detroit and it deteriorated. They are now in Florida, and
the South. God has prophesied that the Jesus people will fill the
earth,
and that He will destroy His enemies. A LOT OF STORMS IN THE SOUTH
LATELY ! Try to convert them to the true living God and Jesus Christ
our Lord. God wants them to hear it before He destroys them. Pray
for
me
and you.
Apostle Thomas Batchelor.
Please spend your time glorifying our God and advancing His kingdom,
not
trashing other religions, for you know very well, that there is no
religious
literature extant which is more bloody than the OT of the Bible. There are
too many Christians who want to be both Jew and Christian, and believe
both
the OT AND the NT. See below what the consequences are.
Pastor Frank
For God to kill via a great flood etc. is one thing, and that's why we
call such events "Acts of God". It's quite another to command some of
His children to kill their Semitic brothers and sisters and their children
and life stock, in fact "all that breatheth". Here God is supposed to have
ordered fratricide and that can only be an order from Satan. May no one
think, that the Bible as well as the church and temple are free from Satan
and his minions, for the adversary has access to our hearts and minds even
to the very throne of God Himself (Rv:12:10).
All we have to go on are the inerrant words of Christ, our God
incarnate, and His commandments, all of which command us to love. Nowhere
does Christ endorse killing anyone for any reason. We even are commanded
to
love our enemies, for God is our Father which is in Heaven, our Abba,
Daddy,
who wishes that no harm should come to any of His children and that all
should come to repentance and be saved (2Pt:3:9). Had the Jews faith in
their Theology, they would have converted the natives of Israel, instead
of
"killing all that breatheth", keeping alive only little girls to "do with
as
you please" (Moses in Numbers 31:17-18). See below the abomination of hell
at work and what the ultimate consequence as per Biblical prophesy will
be.
Pastor Frank
CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the
horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land",
as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives.
The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews,
YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their
neighbour's property and kill them to get a hold of it.
Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday,
today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded fratricide.
Jews were to kill their Semitic brothers, sisters and their children and
life-stock, in fact they were to "kill all that breatheth" in the entire
country, in order for them to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have
not sown", resulting in the below obscenity, a holocaust of gigantic
proportions.
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Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord
thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing
that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the
Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the
Jebusites
as the Lord thy God has commanded thee."
Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the
valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains
with
your flowing blood..."
Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye
shall
not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women...'"
Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're
about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut
them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with
them nor show them any mercy.
Joshua 10:40 - BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country,
and
the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the
God
of Israel, commanded."
1 Samuel 15:3 - BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant
and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."
Isaiah 13:16 - BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before
their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped."
Hosea 13:16 - BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled
against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed
in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open."
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.
PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the
abomination
above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;
in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements
shall
melt with fervent heat?
Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the
mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing
out
of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck
in
those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh
be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall
on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the
name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.
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