"Libertarius" <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in message
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Rod wrote:

"Libertarius" <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in message
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Smoked or pickled?
YOUR CHOICE:

Buffalo Tongue in Sweet and Sour Sauce
Braised Buffalo Tongue with Mushroom Sauce
Buffalo Tongue with Tomato Sauce
Boiled Smoked Tongue with Creole Sauce
Thyme Buffalo Tongue (Pickled)
Smoked Buffalo Tongue Salad

http://www.tripleuranch.com/htm/recipes_buffalo_tongue.shtml

Well, I went and took a looksie. I don't care a lot for tongue,
but the roast and buffalo steaks look really good. I could go
for a marinated slice of roast garnished with small onions and
mushroom gravy, and some new potatoes in butter. Of course
this isn't cooking newsgroup, but right now it doesn't sound half bad

!

Rod

===>Beats just SPEAKING tongues! ;-) -- L.

I'm not so certain about that ! There are so many unexplained things in
this
world and so much to experience. How do we learn about the unknown
without observing it or simply jumping right in ?

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:33:59 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:

===>Beats just SPEAKING tongues! ;-) -- L.

Not if you believe in God.

duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:33:59 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:

===>Beats just SPEAKING tongues! ;-) -- L.

Not if you believe in God.

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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:47:26 -0600, "Rod" <kc0oeb@cableone.net> wrote:
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:41:31 GMT, "Rico" <hoganrj@bigpond.net.au.au>
wrote:

The gifts of tongues serves two different purposes as there are 2
manifestations of the ability.

Who says? The Bible doesn't.

In one manifestation it is the ability to speak TO God in a language
that
you do not understand.

And that is fruitless BECAUSE you do not understand and cannot TEST it
to see if it is praising God or cursing God. I personally know of at
least one case where a Christian was doing that, speaking in tongues
and CURSING GOD without knowing it.

Fruitless ? Not hardly, if I spoke only greek. See below;

You are mis-using scripture, proving thereby that you truly don't
understand what yuo read.

The discussion had come down to "the language some believe they use to
communicate WITH GOD."

The languages given at Pentecost were known languages, and they were
UNDERSTOOD by the foreign-born Jews who heard them, but they were not
understood by the apostles who spoke them!

Thanks for AGAIN proving that too many "Pentecostals" (I call you
"pretenders") pretend you have Bible knowledge when you don't. You
pretend you have discernment when you don't.

You pretend to be filled with God's Holy Spirit when you aren't.

Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was come, they were all together in
one place.

Act 2:2 And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like the rushing of a
violent wind, and all the house where they were was full of it.

Act 2:3 And they saw tongues, like flames of fire, coming to rest on every
one of them.

Act 2:4 And they were all full of the Holy Spirit, and were talking in
different languages, as the Spirit gave them power.

Act 2:5 Now there were living at Jerusalem, Jews, God-fearing men, from
every nation under heaven.

Act 2:6 And when this sound came to their ears, they all came together,
and
were greatly surprised because every man was hearing the words of the
disciples in his special language.

Act 2:7 And they were full of wonder and said, Are not all these men
Galilaeans?

Act 2:8 And how is it that every one of us is hearing their words in the
language which was ours from our birth?

Act 2:9 Men of Parthia, Media, and Elam, and those living in Mesopotamia,
in
Judaea and Cappadocia, in Pontus and Asia,

Act 2:10 In Phrygia and Pamphylia, in Egypt and the parts of Libya about
Cyrene, and those who have come from Rome, Jews by birth and others who
have
become Jews,

Act 2:11 Men of Crete and Arabia, to all of us they are talking in our
different languages, of the great works of God.

Act 2:12 And they were all surprised and in doubt saying to one another,
What is the reason of this?

Act 2:13 But others, making sport of them, said, They are full of new
wine.

Act 2:14 But Peter, getting up, with the eleven, said in a loud voice, O
men
of Judaea, and all you who are living in Jerusalem, take note of this and
give ear to my words.

Act 2:15 For these men are not overcome with wine, as it seems to you, for
it is only the third hour of the day;

Act 2:16 But this is the thing which was said by the prophet Joel;

If you don't KNOW what comes out of your mouth it is fruitless. You
are like a barbarian (stranger) to the person you are speaking to, and
He is a barbarian (stranger) to you, according to the Bible.

1 Cor 14:9-12
9 So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to
understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be
speaking into the air. 10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of
languages in the world, and none of them is without significance. 11
Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a
foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to
me.
NKJV

The word "foreigner" in the Greek is literally BARBARIAN.

When this ability manifests it is because you have
either ran out of things to say to God, but you still desire to speak
to
Him, so the Holy Spirit gives you words to say.

Modern-day "pentecostalism" has made this up. It never happens in the
Bible that way. What the Holy Spirit does when He intercedes is he
speaks with GROANINGS THAT _CANNOT_ BE SPOKEN.

Rom 8:26

26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not
know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes
intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
NKJV

YOUR MOUTH cannot express them; so the modern-day fake "tongues" is
not that at all.

Or you do not know what
you want to say to begin with so the Holy Spirit acts to get you
started,
then you will probably become aware of things in your mind that God
wants
you to pray about in a language known to you.

You might as well get some rosary beads and make up your own "special
prayers" to say too, since neither they nor what you are claiming here
are in the Bible ANYWHERE. Your whole concept is MAN-MADE, not from
God at all.

Using tongues this way helps
to edify or strengthen the mind and spirit of the beliver.

Then why do non-"pentecostals" consider modern-day "pentecostals" to
be feeble-minded and stupid because they babble like little children
and like little children think they are "speaking foreign languages?"
LOL!

And to "edify" is not a mental exercise; it is a spiritual "building
up" by definition. Your word-use is sloppy.

If you are from
a church where the majority of worshipers speak in tongues it is

perfectly

acceptable to use tongues in this way as the whole church is edified
when
every individual in the service is edifing themselves. An
intepretation

is

not required in this circumstance unless you are given one or someone
who
understands the language you speak feels the need to share what you
have
said. If you are in a church where the majority of the congregation DO

NOT

speak in tongues it is advised that you do not speak in tongues in this
manner unless you can share an interpretation that can be confirmed by
another person, or you must be as quiet as you can be when speaking.

(when

there is worship musice being played is a potentially safe time to use
tongues in this manner)

If you are from a church where the majority of worshippers "speak in
tongues" then you are in a church where fakery and poor teaching
abound. All of these DOCTRINES OF MAN that you are espousing here are
NOT from God.

In the other manifestation it is the ability speak a message FROM God
to
someone that does understand what you are saying, or to the whole
congregation. In this instance an interpretation MUST be given so that

the

people who need to hear the message can be edified by you. If you are
in

a

church where the majority of the congregation DO NOT speak in tongues
it

is

advised that you do not speak in tongues unless you can give an
interpretation, so the whole church can be edified.

More man-made doctrine. You really SHOULD STUDY your Bible a bit
better.

Paul says in chapter 14 of the second letter to the Corinthians that
you
must not prohibit the use of tongues.

We Baptist Christians would NEVER "prohibit" the use of tongues, but
we DO NOT accept fakes and counterfeits as the real thing.

Modern-day "pentecostals" practice fake and counterfeit tongues; not
the real thing.

in Christ Jesus,
Checker

Rod



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