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11 Dec 2007 12:57:41 PM |
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Re: Why be so Jewish? |
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 12:18 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 10, 8:41 pm, "cindys" <cste...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"cactus" <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:i6f7j.3536$Vq.3281@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...> wrote:
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Unless you interpret the Kingdom of God to be something that can be
obtained by some means other then faith, this passage is stating that
their lack of belief cost them the opportunity to be part of God's
kingdom. Being Jewish was never described in the old testatment as
something that required faith. The were Jewish by birth and as such
were given a special gift. The bible clearly states how some honored
this gift and some dishonored it. But the right of Jewishness was not
earned or obtained. As such I do not see how you can tie that into
being part of the Kingdom of God (which is clearly stated in numerous
passages) as being tied to faith.
One can earn it by conversion to Judaism.
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I think what he was saying was that *born* Jews are automatically part of
the covenant by virtue of having been born into, i.e. it's not something we
have to work to achieve and its not based on faith. Of course, the same
would apply to someone who converts to Judaism, (i.e. if the person converts
and accepts the yoke of the mitzvos, whether the person has "faith" or not
is irrelevant). That having been said, I don't think Michael was talking
about converts earning Jewishness; I think he was talking about born Jews
not needing to "earn" the right to be part of the covenant between God and
the Jewish people. We are automatically part of this covenant by simply
being born Jewish.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
There is something very odd and doubtful about a religion that makes
such racism a part of its basic doctrine. Something very odd and
doubtful.
TCross
It's not the religion that's odd and doubtful, it's you. You assume that
Judaism is the same faith it was during Abraham's time.
I did not mention Abraham's time - you did. Cindy does not live in
Abraham's time - she lives now. Whatever is Cindy's religion, that is
what I call "odd and doubtful." If that religion is Judaism, as I am
sure she would tell you, you have your answer.
Guess what - it
isn't. Quit living in the past and hating us for something that we
haven't been for millennia.
Cindy is not that old.
You don't understand modern Judaism so quit making an ***** of yourself by
speaking from ignorance.
Every time one the seamier sides of Judaism is hauled into the
sunlight, one of you pops up to protest, "You don't understand!"
I didn't say that. I said that it has changed. You don't pay attention
to that because it doesn't fit with what you want to say. It's not
surprising - you ignore 2000 years of history, so a day doesn't matter
to you.
Tell you what, sonny: If you gave the world half the "understanding"
you are always demanding FROM the world, you would have far less to
say. You would not be sounding off like Cindy and Mark T on
"Christian fundamentalism," you would not be consigning people every
day to bedlam houses like Cactus and Mordecai, and you would not be
finding fault with the cut of other people's tinfoil hats.
I don't care what people believe. I do get upset when they lie about my
religion. They can, like pj, be as delusional as they want, for all I
care, but when he has the gall to tell my what my religion is, he gets
what he deserves. Just as I called your bluff when you quoted hate
sites as the truth.
But ah, no, you must travel everwhither into people's underwear
drawers and judge them, and there is no question that you understand
everything you see to the last squintilla. There is no appeal to your
judging eye, and no second guessing.
I only respond to people's actions. I only reason from what they say.
Therefore, I say, as you judge may you be judged. When you speak
racism, you are racists. When you speak idolatry, you are idolaters.
When you speak hate, you are haters. And when you speak das Vaterland
and uber allus, you are Nazis.
I don't judge, I call people's behavior as I see it. If you call that
judging and you don't like what I say, change your behavior. My
conscience is clear; you have never apologized for your lies about
Judaism. You should, it would help you spiritually.
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11 Dec 2007 03:07:38 PM |
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"Terry Cross" <tcross77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40d82640-9a91-497b-a25e-af9a71195d2b@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 11, 10:57 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 12:18 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 10, 8:41 pm, "cindys" <cste...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"cactus" <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:i6f7j.3536$Vq.3281@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...>
wrote:
snip
Unless you interpret the Kingdom of God to be something that can
be
obtained by some means other then faith, this passage is stating
that
their lack of belief cost them the opportunity to be part of God's
kingdom. Being Jewish was never described in the old testatment
as
something that required faith. The were Jewish by birth and as
such
were given a special gift. The bible clearly states how some
honored
this gift and some dishonored it. But the right of Jewishness was
not
earned or obtained. As such I do not see how you can tie that
into
being part of the Kingdom of God (which is clearly stated in
numerous
passages) as being tied to faith.
One can earn it by conversion to Judaism.
-------
I think what he was saying was that *born* Jews are automatically
part of
the covenant by virtue of having been born into, i.e. it's not
something we
have to work to achieve and its not based on faith. Of course, the
same
would apply to someone who converts to Judaism, (i.e. if the person
converts
and accepts the yoke of the mitzvos, whether the person has "faith"
or not
is irrelevant). That having been said, I don't think Michael was
talking
about converts earning Jewishness; I think he was talking about born
Jews
not needing to "earn" the right to be part of the covenant between
God and
the Jewish people. We are automatically part of this covenant by
simply
being born Jewish.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
There is something very odd and doubtful about a religion that makes
such racism a part of its basic doctrine. Something very odd and
doubtful.
TCross
It's not the religion that's odd and doubtful, it's you. You assume
that
Judaism is the same faith it was during Abraham's time.
I did not mention Abraham's time - you did. Cindy does not live in
Abraham's time - she lives now. Whatever is Cindy's religion, that is
what I call "odd and doubtful." If that religion is Judaism, as I am
sure she would tell you, you have your answer.
Guess what - it
isn't. Quit living in the past and hating us for something that we
haven't been for millennia.
Cindy is not that old.
You don't understand modern Judaism so quit making an ***** of yourself
by
speaking from ignorance.
Every time one the seamier sides of Judaism is hauled into the
sunlight, one of you pops up to protest, "You don't understand!"
I didn't say that. I said that it has changed. You don't pay attention
to that because it doesn't fit with what you want to say. It's not
surprising - you ignore 2000 years of history, so a day doesn't matter
to you.
Tell you what, sonny: If you gave the world half the "understanding"
you are always demanding FROM the world, you would have far less to
say. You would not be sounding off like Cindy and Mark T on
"Christian fundamentalism," you would not be consigning people every
day to bedlam houses like Cactus and Mordecai, and you would not be
finding fault with the cut of other people's tinfoil hats.
I don't care what people believe. I do get upset when they lie about my
religion. They can, like pj, be as delusional as they want, for all I
care, but when he has the gall to tell my what my religion is, he gets
what he deserves. Just as I called your bluff when you quoted hate
sites as the truth.
But ah, no, you must travel everwhither into people's underwear
drawers and judge them, and there is no question that you understand
everything you see to the last squintilla. There is no appeal to your
judging eye, and no second guessing.
I only respond to people's actions. I only reason from what they say.
Therefore, I say, as you judge may you be judged. When you speak
racism, you are racists. When you speak idolatry, you are idolaters.
When you speak hate, you are haters. And when you speak das Vaterland
and uber allus, you are Nazis.
I don't judge, I call people's behavior as I see it. If you call that
judging and you don't like what I say, change your behavior. My
conscience is clear; you have never apologized for your lies about
Judaism. You should, it would help you spiritually.
I call them as I see them. You and your Chosen People cult members
are racists, pure and simple as it grows. Your pretense that "Israel
belongs to the Jews" is racism, pure and simple, just as "Germany for
Germans" and "America for white Anglo Saxon Protestants" is racism.
You do judge everything you see and hear, and I call you on that. You
demand "understanding" for your flaws and perversions, and you will
get none. You are judged as you judge: on face value with no appeal.
TCross
Such vile anti-Semitism is unwelcome in both this forum and decent society
in general. Please refrain. Thank you.
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| User: "cindys" |
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11 Dec 2007 04:16:45 PM |
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"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1fjjva.q7p.19.1@news.alt.net...
"Terry Cross" <tcross77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I call them as I see them. You and your Chosen People cult members
are racists, pure and simple as it grows. Your pretense that "Israel
belongs to the Jews" is racism, pure and simple, just as "Germany for
Germans" and "America for white Anglo Saxon Protestants" is racism.
You do judge everything you see and hear, and I call you on that. You
demand "understanding" for your flaws and perversions, and you will
get none. You are judged as you judge: on face value with no appeal.
TCross
Such vile anti-Semitism is unwelcome in both this forum and decent society
in general. Please refrain. Thank you.
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She's a holocaust denier too.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
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| User: "J.H.Boersema" |
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12 Dec 2007 01:51:40 AM |
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["Followup-To:" header set to soc.culture.jewish.]
On 2007-12-11, cindys <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1fjjva.q7p.19.1@news.alt.net...
"Terry Cross" <tcross77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
snip
I call them as I see them. You and your Chosen People cult members
are racists, pure and simple as it grows. Your pretense that "Israel
belongs to the Jews" is racism, pure and simple, just as "Germany for
Germans" and "America for white Anglo Saxon Protestants" is racism.
You do judge everything you see and hear, and I call you on that. You
demand "understanding" for your flaws and perversions, and you will
get none. You are judged as you judge: on face value with no appeal.
Such vile anti-Semitism is unwelcome in both this forum and decent society
in general. Please refrain. Thank you.
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She's a holocaust denier too.
Best regards,
It says in the Torah, part of the Sinai Covenant, that if Jews do
not follow the rules of the Torah, G.d will disperse them throughout
the Nations, where they will suffer. If it is evening, they wished
it were morning - if it were morning, they wish it were evening.
There will be no let up in the pressure, Jews will be terrified.
This continues until something is learned. This goes on until only
a "handful" remain.
Now, Jews, you are in exile, as you are well aware. The state of
Israel is just another part of exile. It is a country in exile,
and the real Jews that live there, continue to suffer (The Neturei
Karta, for instance, Jews who do not follow in the money selling
games or who hold on to the Talmud oath's not to do there "as a
wall"). The Jews in Israel are in exile, it is just another country
of chaos and misery. One could say: a country for and by goyim
(if that term still applies to modern non-jews, the modern non-jews
do not sacrifice their children to figments of their imagination
anymore).
The Jew is in exile everywhere. In the Torah it says: until you
learn. What have you failed to learn so far ? Why are you still
in exile and haven't you decided to learn ? What is Hashem trying
to tell you ?
What are the Nations telling the Jews ... ? There are a number of
things that were said during this exile since the last Temple:
- Jews apply the law as a dead instrument, and without brotherly
love to their fellew Jew (the Christians said that).
- Jews are into money games, they don't work but speculate and
manipulate (anti-capitalists said that, nazi-Germany said it).
- Jews oppress the Palestinian people, have erected a apartheid
state.
These 3 points, they are still being said over and over and over
and over and over again. Is there any truth in either of them ?
The fact is, yes, there is truth in them. This is how Hashem tells
the Jews what's wrong, this is how the Jew is pressudered - so it
seems, and this is mainstream Judaism for what I know - to do the
Torah.
But what do "the jews" (in the main) do: they ignore it, they try
to fight it. What they don't do (in the main, some do maybe): is
go back to Torah, to do the laws of Moshe written in the Torah.
The Torah states clearly what will happen ... only a hand full will
remain.
How is it possible for Jews not to know these things, how is it
possible for Jews to stay in money games, to defend the zionite
state knowing it was a break with Talmud & Torah, and now seeing
the violence. Stubborn ? Who is can be more stubborn, the Jew or
Hashem ? Will truth bend over just for the stubborn Jew ? No,
the Universe goes on like it has, the laws of nature don't change
to accomodate Jews who don't do Torah (Judaism does not support the
idea that truth will bend over for a sinning Jew). Does the Jew stand
a chance against the Torah ? Seems to me, no, the Jew stands no chance
against it. Come back to Torah, dear Jews, for your own sake. Don't
yell back at your attackers with blahblah, first do the Torah, and then
tell the truth. Don't sell money. Read your sages and behave well and
honorable to the non-jew and don't put them down since they're mostly
not evil child sacrificing demons anymore. Apologise for the sorry state
of Palestine, and point to your Talmud and tell everyone: we sinned
against Torah, that's why we failed. We weren't ready for this state,
and our sages knew, now look how right they were. Apologise to the
way you have acted to ward the Neturei Karta, who have done nothing
wrong but follow the Talmud & Torah law. Good of them to burn the
zionite flag, it shows the world there's still a different kind of
Jew, one that loves to adhere to the Torah. They do exactly what they
say: sanctify the name of heaven. What a treasure for Hashem, even
though just a hand-full !
You see, people deny the holocaust, do you know why ? People are
upset about the way the holocaust is being used by zionites, how
it is manipulated as a PR tool. It is weird that they deny the
holocaust (burn-offering), and then in the very next sentence call
for a new one. They think, ``fine, the Jews abuse the holocaust ? then
we deny it ever happened, taking away that power.'' The holocaust could
come about because of sins against Torah law, particularly money selling,
and also going back to Palestine before the date set (I think the
former is the worse here, but, interestingly, had you not been into
money-games, the state of Israel might have worked economically
....). How to get out of this knot ? Stop using the holocaust as a
PR instrument, but see how it can be used to get back to Torah law,
try to figure out what you must /learn/ from this exile. Once you've
learned, Hashem has promised he would bring you all back, and have
great pleasure in making you abundent and succesful. Don't think
every non-jew doesn't see through your PR manipulation, not everyone
is stupid. Start using events to understand something, to become
better Jews. Focus on torah, not on your bloodlines. The Torah is
law, isn't it. The world is only angered further with the focus on
blood and tribe, you have to learn from that too.
There isn't yet only a hand full of jews left. But that can still
come about after annihilation of the zionite state (zion-night, like
pagan-night, where a teaching of lawlessness comes forth into the
world, a teaching of money selling, apartheid - not a teaching of
Torah). A holocaust for money-games in the USA, just like in Europe. It
is possible, it isn't that much of a stretch. The drums have been
rolling for decades, on both counts. This appears to be mainstream
Judaism, why it isn't accepted by otherwise apparently intelligent
people. Is it that hard to give up money games ? Listen to your enemy,
because it appears to be the voice of Hashem, telling you what you
must learn. Actually spelling it out, with in the other hand a great
firy stick. You're no match for this, all you have is the truth and the
Torah to protect you. And it will protect you, but it needs time to
set, to sink in.
DO NOT SELL MONEY. IT IS THE TORAH LAW.
Read your sages on what is Jew and what is not. Notice how the
Nations converge on the Torah law from all sides. Modern Jews
don't appear that much different from the non-jews, both seem
to converge (with the exception of that hand-full of jews who
follow Torah law). If judaism is all about the height of the
Hanukkah lamp, it is basically dead, isn't it. You don't understand
the treasure the Torah law is, and because you don't understand it,
you tend to pick out that which you like to do. I don't really
mind that, as long as you know what you're doing. But you don't,
and then, isn't it all equally important and great. There is no
basis to pick and choose the law, it isn't set up that way, the
knowledge is missing to do that.
Don't sell money for profit, that is a really big one. If you do that,
maybe that will be enough to get you out of exile. It has been written
in the Talmud, that those who sell money for profit will not be part
of the ressurection. The law is in the *Torah* (twice at least),
it is not a derived Halacha law or even just from the Neviim, though
prophets complain about it openly.
Jews talk endlessly about the shape of the golden arms of the Menorah,
while the Internet can barely contain the amount of flag thrown at
Jewry for selling money for profit, and when this problem has already
killed 6 million about 60 years ago, and is broken all around. There
many laws that describe how to keep the kitchen kosher and separate
meat from milk when the Torah itself has a much weaker law on this
(do not boil the young goat in the milk of its mother). Yet, when
it comes to money selling, "jews" happily inform that they do so
aggressively, and not a soul to be bothered by it. Isn't that at least
strange ? Why the difference in attention, why the focus on less
high level law (some Talmud passage specifying such and such of
a detail on this/that object of metal, whatever!) with extreme
interest and dedication, but when it comes to high level law (Torah)
nobody bothers ? Can anyone explain that to me ? Are we reading the
same Tenach & oral tradition ? Does everyone has a different book
then me ? Does yours specify "skip the next 4 verses" when it comes
to law against money games ? I don't think so, I know it is not so.
You're stubborn, but Judaism specifies you'll all be washed out,
and only those that follow Torah will remain, a hand full. How
can that be ? Because breaking certain Torah law is not like
breaking an invented nonsense ritual, this is particularly true
when it comes to money selling. It actually does real damage in
society, and those hurt, are angry. They should be.
D O N O T S E L L M O N E Y
* Don't gather rent on savings account. Do not lend with profit.
* Do not own stock and shares.
* Do not work for investment banking businesses.
* Reject those that sell money, they can't be part of mainstream
Judaism because they break some of the biggest laws. Maybe they
want to be Hindu or Christian instead.
* Make it known you reject money sellers from Judaism, to protect
yourself from the anger directed at those that break this Torah
law.
Exile until you learn ... 1900+ years and counting ... and the
curses haven't even fully taken effect, there's still more then
a handful left. Considder the mercy of Hashem. But it is part of the
Mercy of Hashem, that His Mercy doesn't last forever (that's Judaism
AFAIK). You can choose to learn and do Torah, or you can choose not to.
Hashem is waiting patiently, but - so I read - not forever. For your
sake. Almost none of you here is doing Torah as he should, none that
I can see. Why don't you all convert away from Torah, stop associating
those jews that still do the Torah, with your guilt. You only bring
yourself into danger, because when/if anger comes on Jewry, the non-jews
who also did money-games, won't be hit as hard. That's what happened
in the holocaust ...
http://www.jhwh.be/~joshb/aksie/jewsagainstrent.jpg
--
http://www.jhwh.be
#36 http://www.xs4all.nl/~joshb/no-id-theft.html
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16 Dec 2007 10:57:05 PM |
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On 12-Dec-2007, "J.H.Boersema" <joshb@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Now, Jews, you are in exile, as you are well aware. The state of
Israel is just another part of exile. It is a country in exile,
and the real Jews that live there, continue to suffer (The Neturei
Karta, for instance, Jews who do not follow in the money selling
games or who hold on to the Talmud oath's not to do there "as a
wall").
I would say "stop lying", but I have to think that you're just nuts.
Susan
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17 Dec 2007 01:29:39 PM |
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On Dec 16, 8:57 pm, wrote:
On 12-Dec-2007, "J.H.Boersema" <jo...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Now, Jews, you are in exile, as you are well aware. The state of
Israel is just another part of exile. It is a country in exile,
and the real Jews that live there, continue to suffer (The Neturei
Karta, for instance, Jews who do not follow in the money selling
games or who hold on to the Talmud oath's not to do there "as a
wall").
I would say "stop lying", but I have to think that you're just nuts.
Susan
No, he is just for real, i.e. a real Jew, unlike you, Susan.
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11 Dec 2007 05:53:52 PM |
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"Terry Cross" <tcross77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:036d74e7-5a11-4129-a9ac-ef39d740f77d@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 11, 1:07 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
"Terry Cross" <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I call them as I see them. You and your Chosen People cult members
are racists, pure and simple as it grows. Your pretense that "Israel
belongs to the Jews" is racism, pure and simple, just as "Germany for
Germans" and "America for white Anglo Saxon Protestants" is racism.
You do judge everything you see and hear, and I call you on that. You
demand "understanding" for your flaws and perversions, and you will
get none. You are judged as you judge: on face value with no appeal.
TCross
Such vile anti-Semitism is unwelcome in both this forum and decent
society
in general. Please refrain. Thank you.
THAT's anti-Semitism? Refusing to tolerate your anti-Gentilism? Wow,
you guys got all the intellectual tricks nailed down. Perhaps this is
the purpose of the Jeshivas - To perpetuate the double-think.
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As far as I know, J Young isn't Jewish. But that's okay, we know you hate
Christians almost as much as you hate Jews.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
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11 Dec 2007 11:33:59 PM |
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It is Shawarmah you *****. I though you like dicks because that is your
favorite meal Zio.Nazi *****.
Roy Roger
"Jew" <tachnan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 11, 4:53 pm, "cindys" <cste...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Terry Cross" <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 11, 1:07 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
"Terry Cross" <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I call them as I see them. You and your Chosen People cult members
are racists, pure and simple as it grows. Your pretense that
"Israel
belongs to the Jews" is racism, pure and simple, just as "Germany
for
Germans" and "America for white Anglo Saxon Protestants" is racism.
You do judge everything you see and hear, and I call you on that.
You
demand "understanding" for your flaws and perversions, and you will
get none. You are judged as you judge: on face value with no
appeal.
TCross
Such vile anti-Semitism is unwelcome in both this forum and decent
society
in general. Please refrain. Thank you.
THAT's anti-Semitism? Refusing to tolerate your anti-Gentilism? Wow,
you guys got all the intellectual tricks nailed down. Perhaps this is
the purpose of the Jeshivas - To perpetuate the double-think.
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As far as I know, J Young isn't Jewish. But that's okay, we know you hate
Christians almost as much as you hate Jews.
Best regards,
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Cindy what is your favorite Jewish or Israeli food? Mine is Swarmah.
You know the only place one can get god Swarmah here in Denver is at a
Palestinian restaurant on the campus of the University of Denver.
It's called the Jerusalem restaurant. I use to eat there back in the
late 80's through the middle 90's. You can always tell a Jew buy what
we eat. For instance I just discovered last week that Einstein's
Delhi here in Denver serves a bagel with cream cheese, purple onions,
capers and Nova Lox for around 6 bucks. Needless to say I will be
grabbing lunch there when I don't have time to stop at home and eat.
The reason I am posting this is because I'm trying to find a recipe
for an Israeli dish called "afoul." That is how it is pronounced but
I haven't been able to find it on the net. Basically you take a bowl
(like a cereal bowl) and lace the bowl with refried beans. Then in
the center bottom of the bowl you add some hummus and olive oil and
serve it with a boiled egg. When I lived on the corner of Dizengof
and Yermiyahu streets in Tel-Aviv I would eat in the restaurants there
and afoul was very popular. Oh yea also you are suppose to serve some
Jachnun with it. I'm getting hungry. First we pray, then we eat,
then if we are married in a normal heterosexual marriage we have
sexual intercourse. Did you know that Cindy? That is the Jewish way
of life.
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16 Dec 2007 10:56:04 PM |
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Arguing that judsaism isn't racist anymore is like arguing
that a confirmed bachelor doesn't beat his wife anymore.
Susan
On 11-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
Therefore, I say, as you judge may you be judged. When you speak
racism, you are racists. When you speak idolatry, you are idolaters.
When you speak hate, you are haters. And when you speak das Vaterland
and uber allus, you are Nazis.
I don't judge, I call people's behavior as I see it. If you call that
judging and you don't like what I say, change your behavior. My
conscience is clear; you have never apologized for your lies about
Judaism. You should, it would help you spiritually.
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| User: "Boy Gary" |
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17 Dec 2007 04:49:57 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:Ejn9j.84161$rZ3.8997@trnddc07...
Arguing that judsaism isn't racist anymore is like arguing
that a confirmed bachelor doesn't beat his wife anymore.
Gary just beats his meat. I wonder why?
Susan
On 11-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
Therefore, I say, as you judge may you be judged. When you speak
racism, you are racists. When you speak idolatry, you are idolaters.
When you speak hate, you are haters. And when you speak das Vaterland
and uber allus, you are Nazis.
I don't judge, I call people's behavior as I see it. If you call that
judging and you don't like what I say, change your behavior. My
conscience is clear; you have never apologized for your lies about
Judaism. You should, it would help you spiritually.
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| User: "" |
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17 Dec 2007 04:58:33 AM |
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On Dec 17, 2:49 am, "Boy Gary" <g...@*****.il> wrote:
<flav...@verizon.net> wrote in messagenews:Ejn9j.84161$rZ3.8997@trnddc07...
Arguing that judsaism isn't racist anymore is like arguing
that a confirmed bachelor doesn't beat his wife anymore.
Gary just beats his meat. I wonder why?
So, what should we conclude, that arguing that Judaism isn't racist
anymore is like arguing that a confirmed bachelor doesn't beat his
meat anymore?
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| User: "Binjamin Cramer" |
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17 Dec 2007 04:10:54 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:Ejn9j.84161$rZ3.8997@trnddc07...
Arguing that judsaism isn't racist anymore is like arguing
that a confirmed bachelor doesn't beat his wife anymore.
Judaism has always been and will always be racist, stupid, dyslexic, thick
Irish *****.
They won't have a bar of thick Irish cunts such as you.
Susan
On 11-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
Therefore, I say, as you judge may you be judged. When you speak
racism, you are racists. When you speak idolatry, you are idolaters.
When you speak hate, you are haters. And when you speak das Vaterland
and uber allus, you are Nazis.
I don't judge, I call people's behavior as I see it. If you call that
judging and you don't like what I say, change your behavior. My
conscience is clear; you have never apologized for your lies about
Judaism. You should, it would help you spiritually.
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| User: "cactus" |
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11 Dec 2007 04:08:36 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 10:57 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 12:18 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 10, 8:41 pm, "cindys" <cste...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"cactus" <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:i6f7j.3536$Vq.3281@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...> wrote:
snip
Unless you interpret the Kingdom of God to be something that can be
obtained by some means other then faith, this passage is stating that
their lack of belief cost them the opportunity to be part of God's
kingdom. Being Jewish was never described in the old testatment as
something that required faith. The were Jewish by birth and as such
were given a special gift. The bible clearly states how some honored
this gift and some dishonored it. But the right of Jewishness was not
earned or obtained. As such I do not see how you can tie that into
being part of the Kingdom of God (which is clearly stated in numerous
passages) as being tied to faith.
One can earn it by conversion to Judaism.
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I think what he was saying was that *born* Jews are automatically part of
the covenant by virtue of having been born into, i.e. it's not something we
have to work to achieve and its not based on faith. Of course, the same
would apply to someone who converts to Judaism, (i.e. if the person converts
and accepts the yoke of the mitzvos, whether the person has "faith" or not
is irrelevant). That having been said, I don't think Michael was talking
about converts earning Jewishness; I think he was talking about born Jews
not needing to "earn" the right to be part of the covenant between God and
the Jewish people. We are automatically part of this covenant by simply
being born Jewish.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
There is something very odd and doubtful about a religion that makes
such racism a part of its basic doctrine. Something very odd and
doubtful.
TCross
It's not the religion that's odd and doubtful, it's you. You assume that
Judaism is the same faith it was during Abraham's time.
I did not mention Abraham's time - you did. Cindy does not live in
Abraham's time - she lives now. Whatever is Cindy's religion, that is
what I call "odd and doubtful." If that religion is Judaism, as I am
sure she would tell you, you have your answer.
Guess what - it
isn't. Quit living in the past and hating us for something that we
haven't been for millennia.
Cindy is not that old.
You don't understand modern Judaism so quit making an ***** of yourself by
speaking from ignorance.
Every time one the seamier sides of Judaism is hauled into the
sunlight, one of you pops up to protest, "You don't understand!"
I didn't say that. I said that it has changed. You don't pay attention
to that because it doesn't fit with what you want to say. It's not
surprising - you ignore 2000 years of history, so a day doesn't matter
to you.
Tell you what, sonny: If you gave the world half the "understanding"
you are always demanding FROM the world, you would have far less to
say. You would not be sounding off like Cindy and Mark T on
"Christian fundamentalism," you would not be consigning people every
day to bedlam houses like Cactus and Mordecai, and you would not be
finding fault with the cut of other people's tinfoil hats.
I don't care what people believe. I do get upset when they lie about my
religion. They can, like pj, be as delusional as they want, for all I
care, but when he has the gall to tell my what my religion is, he gets
what he deserves. Just as I called your bluff when you quoted hate
sites as the truth.
But ah, no, you must travel everwhither into people's underwear
drawers and judge them, and there is no question that you understand
everything you see to the last squintilla. There is no appeal to your
judging eye, and no second guessing.
I only respond to people's actions. I only reason from what they say.
Therefore, I say, as you judge may you be judged. When you speak
racism, you are racists. When you speak idolatry, you are idolaters.
When you speak hate, you are haters. And when you speak das Vaterland
and uber allus, you are Nazis.
I don't judge, I call people's behavior as I see it. If you call that
judging and you don't like what I say, change your behavior. My
conscience is clear; you have never apologized for your lies about
Judaism. You should, it would help you spiritually.
I call them as I see them. You and your Chosen People cult members
are racists, pure and simple as it grows. Your pretense that "Israel
belongs to the Jews" is racism, pure and simple, just as "Germany for
Germans" and "America for white Anglo Saxon Protestants" is racism.
When did I ever say that? Hint: I didn't. You are unable to see me as
an individual, you only see me as you would see an entire group of
people that you hate in the abstract.
I don't view you that way. My disgust with you and your despicable
behavior is personal. It does not extent to anyone else of any faith.
You do judge everything you see and hear, and I call you on that. You
demand "understanding" for your flaws and perversions, and you will
get none. You are judged as you judge: on face value with no appeal.
When have I done that? Hint: I didn't. You are unable to see me as an
individual, you only see me as you would see an entire group of people
that you hate in the abstract.
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: Why be so Jewish? |
11 Dec 2007 06:34:21 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 2:08 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 10:57 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 12:18 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 10, 8:41 pm, "cindys" <cste...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"cactus" <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:i6f7j.3536$Vq.3281@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...> wrote:
snip
Unless you interpret the Kingdom of God to be something that can be
obtained by some means other then faith, this passage is stating that
their lack of belief cost them the opportunity to be part of God's
kingdom. Being Jewish was never described in the old testatment as
something that required faith. The were Jewish by birth and as such
were given a special gift. The bible clearly states how some honored
this gift and some dishonored it. But the right of Jewishness was not
earned or obtained. As such I do not see how you can tie that into
being part of the Kingdom of God (which is clearly stated in numerous
passages) as being tied to faith.
One can earn it by conversion to Judaism.
-------
I think what he was saying was that *born* Jews are automatically part of
the covenant by virtue of having been born into, i.e. it's not something we
have to work to achieve and its not based on faith. Of course, the same
would apply to someone who converts to Judaism, (i.e. if the person converts
and accepts the yoke of the mitzvos, whether the person has "faith" or not
is irrelevant). That having been said, I don't think Michael was talking
about converts earning Jewishness; I think he was talking about born Jews
not needing to "earn" the right to be part of the covenant between God and
the Jewish people. We are automatically part of this covenant by simply
being born Jewish.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
There is something very odd and doubtful about a religion that makes
such racism a part of its basic doctrine. Something very odd and
doubtful.
TCross
It's not the religion that's odd and doubtful, it's you. You assume that
Judaism is the same faith it was during Abraham's time.
I did not mention Abraham's time - you did. Cindy does not live in
Abraham's time - she lives now. Whatever is Cindy's religion, that is
what I call "odd and doubtful." If that religion is Judaism, as I am
sure she would tell you, you have your answer.
Guess what - it
isn't. Quit living in the past and hating us for something that we
haven't been for millennia.
Cindy is not that old.
You don't understand modern Judaism so quit making an ***** of yourself by
speaking from ignorance.
Every time one the seamier sides of Judaism is hauled into the
sunlight, one of you pops up to protest, "You don't understand!"
I didn't say that. I said that it has changed. You don't pay attention
to that because it doesn't fit with what you want to say. It's not
surprising - you ignore 2000 years of history, so a day doesn't matter
to you.
Tell you what, sonny: If you gave the world half the "understanding"
you are always demanding FROM the world, you would have far less to
say. You would not be sounding off like Cindy and Mark T on
"Christian fundamentalism," you would not be consigning people every
day to bedlam houses like Cactus and Mordecai, and you would not be
finding fault with the cut of other people's tinfoil hats.
I don't care what people believe. I do get upset when they lie about my
religion. They can, like pj, be as delusional as they want, for all I
care, but when he has the gall to tell my what my religion is, he gets
what he deserves. Just as I called your bluff when you quoted hate
sites as the truth.
But ah, no, you must travel everwhither into people's underwear
drawers and judge them, and there is no question that you understand
everything you see to the last squintilla. There is no appeal to your
judging eye, and no second guessing.
I only respond to people's actions. I only reason from what they say.
Therefore, I say, as you judge may you be judged. When you speak
racism, you are racists. When you speak idolatry, you are idolaters.
When you speak hate, you are haters. And when you speak das Vaterland
and uber allus, you are Nazis.
I don't judge, I call people's behavior as I see it. If you call that
judging and you don't like what I say, change your behavior. My
conscience is clear; you have never apologized for your lies about
Judaism. You should, it would help you spiritually.
I call them as I see them. You and your Chosen People cult members
are racists, pure and simple as it grows. Your pretense that "Israel
belongs to the Jews" is racism, pure and simple, just as "Germany for
Germans" and "America for white Anglo Saxon Protestants" is racism.
When did I ever say that? Hint: I didn't. You are unable to see me as
an individual, you only see me as you would see an entire group of
people that you hate in the abstract.
December 7, 2007 - alt.atheism, alt.messianic, soc.culture.jewish
concerning the Haaretz story about people in Jerusalem spitting on non-
Jewish strangers http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=487412&contrass
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But in the cases in
the story, the people were total strangers with no prior interaction.
And, as I said, this is a lie - I have read more than Terry or other
detractors have. I wonder if these are the same people wearing the
"Jesus is YOUR Lord & Savior" t-shirts, like the lasttime this
happened?
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Thus, Cactus asserts that a "Jesus" T-shirt in the Holy City of the
Holy People justifies spitting on strangers.
I don't view you that way. My disgust with you and your despicable
behavior is personal.
Surely. Like Mordecai, I refuse to bow when you pass. Which tree
will you be hanging me on, Mr. Hamon?
You can't even spell right. You know only enough to be obnoxious. FOAD
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16 Dec 2007 11:01:40 PM |
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On 11-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 2:08 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
And, as I said, this is a lie - I have read more than Terry or other
detractors have. I wonder if these are the same people wearing the
"Jesus is YOUR Lord & Savior" t-shirts, like the lasttime this
happened?
Or handing out their literature to little kids in playgrounds...
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Thus, Cactus asserts that a "Jesus" T-shirt in the Holy City of the
Holy People justifies spitting on strangers.
Oh, how pathetic, even for Terry! She pretends that by lying
about what the t-shirt says will someone escape *anyone's*
notice, & that anyone will continue to believe her lies &
exaggerations on the subject.
I don't view you that way. My disgust with you and your despicable
behavior is personal.
Surely. Like Mordecai, I refuse to bow when you pass. Which tree
will you be hanging me on, Mr. Hamon?
You can't even spell right.
Or even stop projecting her own hatred onto others.
Susan
You know only enough to be obnoxious. FOAD
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| User: "Binjamin Cramer" |
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17 Dec 2007 04:12:19 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:Uon9j.84282$rZ3.301@trnddc07...
On 11-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 2:08 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
And, as I said, this is a lie - I have read more than Terry or other
detractors have. I wonder if these are the same people wearing the
"Jesus is YOUR Lord & Savior" t-shirts, like the lasttime this
happened?
Or handing out their literature to little kids in playgrounds...
BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The yids are a little more shophisticated when it comes to their
missionising, cohen.
They use the television stations, radio stations, news papers, politicians
etc they own to spread their message of hate.
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Thus, Cactus asserts that a "Jesus" T-shirt in the Holy City of the
Holy People justifies spitting on strangers.
Oh, how pathetic, even for Terry! She pretends that by lying
about what the t-shirt says will someone escape *anyone's*
notice, & that anyone will continue to believe her lies &
exaggerations on the subject.
I don't view you that way. My disgust with you and your despicable
behavior is personal.
Surely. Like Mordecai, I refuse to bow when you pass. Which tree
will you be hanging me on, Mr. Hamon?
You can't even spell right.
Or even stop projecting her own hatred onto others.
Susan
You know only enough to be obnoxious. FOAD
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| User: "cactus" |
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16 Dec 2007 11:55:46 PM |
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wrote:
On 11-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 2:08 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
And, as I said, this is a lie - I have read more than Terry or other
detractors have. I wonder if these are the same people wearing the
"Jesus is YOUR Lord & Savior" t-shirts, like the lasttime this
happened?
Or handing out their literature to little kids in playgrounds...
======================
Thus, Cactus asserts that a "Jesus" T-shirt in the Holy City of the
Holy People justifies spitting on strangers.
Oh, how pathetic, even for Terry! She pretends that by lying
about what the t-shirt says will someone escape *anyone's*
notice, & that anyone will continue to believe her lies &
exaggerations on the subject.
The really bizarre thing is that I didn't say what she is accusing me of
saying. It's not anywhere in my post of 12/11/2007 at 2:08 PM. The
only way that she can make her bigoted points is to try to put words in
my mouth. It's despicable, but typical of antisemitic bigots like Terry
because they have no truth behind their position. All they have is lies.
I don't view you that way. My disgust with you and your despicable
behavior is personal.
Surely. Like Mordecai, I refuse to bow when you pass. Which tree
will you be hanging me on, Mr. Hamon?
You can't even spell right.
Or even stop projecting her own hatred onto others.
Susan
You know only enough to be obnoxious. FOAD
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18 Dec 2007 04:08:51 PM |
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On 17-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
On 11-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 2:08 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
And, as I said, this is a lie - I have read more than Terry or other
detractors have. I wonder if these are the same people wearing the
"Jesus is YOUR Lord & Savior" t-shirts, like the lasttime this
happened?
Or handing out their literature to little kids in playgrounds...
======================
Thus, Cactus asserts that a "Jesus" T-shirt in the Holy City of the
Holy People justifies spitting on strangers.
Oh, how pathetic, even for Terry! She pretends that by lying
about what the t-shirt says will someone escape *anyone's*
notice, & that anyone will continue to believe her lies &
exaggerations on the subject.
The really bizarre thing is that I didn't say what she is accusing me of
saying.
Gee, SUCH a surprise!
It's not anywhere in my post of 12/11/2007 at 2:08 PM. The
only way that she can make her bigoted points is to try to put words in
my mouth. It's despicable, but typical of antisemitic bigots like Terry
because they have no truth behind their position. All they have is lies.
GMTA!!
I have said this myself more times than I can count.
Susan
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19 Dec 2007 03:30:02 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:TxX9j.9844$c82.2672@trnddc01...
On 17-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
On 11-Dec-2007, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 2:08 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
And, as I said, this is a lie - I have read more than Terry or other
detractors have. I wonder if these are the same people wearing the
"Jesus is YOUR Lord & Savior" t-shirts, like the lasttime this
happened?
Or handing out their literature to little kids in playgrounds...
======================
Thus, Cactus asserts that a "Jesus" T-shirt in the Holy City of the
Holy People justifies spitting on strangers.
Oh, how pathetic, even for Terry! She pretends that by lying
about what the t-shirt says will someone escape *anyone's*
notice, & that anyone will continue to believe her lies &
exaggerations on the subject.
The really bizarre thing is that I didn't say what she is accusing me of
saying.
Gee, SUCH a surprise!
It's not anywhere in my post of 12/11/2007 at 2:08 PM. The
only way that she can make her bigoted points is to try to put words in
my mouth. It's despicable, but typical of antisemitic bigots like Terry
because they have no truth behind their position. All they have is lies.
GMTA!!
I have said this myself more times than I can count.
Ahaaaa.
Mathematically challenged as well as dyslexic.
Susan
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11 Dec 2007 08:20:51 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 7:07�pm, Jew <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 11, 6:34 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 11, 4:40 pm, Jew <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 11, 5:22 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 11, 2:08 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 10:57 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 11, 12:18 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Dec 10, 8:41 pm, "cindys" <cste...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"cactus" <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:i6f7j.3536$Vq.3281@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...> wrote:
snip
Unless you interpret the Kingdom of God to be something that can be
obtained by some means other then faith, this passage is stating that
their lack of belief cost them the opportunity to be part of God's
kingdom. �Being Jewish was never described in the old testatment as
something that required faith. �The were Jewish by birth and as such
were given a special gift. �The bible clearly states how some honored
this gift and some dishonored it. �But the right of Jewishness was not
earned or obtained. �As such I do not see how you can tie that into
being part of the Kingdom of God (which is clearly stated in numerous
passages) as being tied to faith.
One can earn it by conversion to Judaism.
-------
I think what he was saying was that *born* Jews are automatically part of
the covenant by virtue of having been born into, i.e. it's not something we
have to work to achieve and its not based on faith. Of course, the same
would apply to someone who converts to Judaism, (i.e. if the person converts
and accepts the yoke of the mitzvos, whether the person has "faith" or not
is irrelevant). That having been said, I don't think Michael was talking
about converts earning Jewishness; I think he was talking about born Jews
not needing to "earn" the right to be part of the covenant between God and
the Jewish people. We are automatically part of this covenant by simply
being born Jewish.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
There is something very odd and doubtful about a religion that makes
such racism a part of its basic doctrine. �Something very odd and
doubtful.
TCross
It's not the religion that's odd and doubtful, it's you. You assume that
Judaism is the same faith it was during Abraham's time.
I did not mention Abraham's time - you did. �Cindy does not live in
Abraham's time - she lives now. �Whatever is Cindy's religion, that is
what I call "odd and doubtful." �If that religion is Judaism, as I am
sure she would tell you, you have your answer.
Guess what - it
isn't. �Quit living in the past and hating us for something that we
haven't been for millennia.
Cindy is not that old.
You don't understand modern Judaism so quit making an ***** of yourself by
speaking from ignorance.
Every time one the seamier sides of Judaism is hauled into the
sunlight, one of you pops up to protest, "You don't understand!"
I didn't say that. I said that it has changed. �You don't pay attention
to that because it doesn't fit with what you want to say. �It's not
surprising - you ignore 2000 years of history, so a day doesn't matter
to you.
Tell you what, sonny: If you gave the world half the "understanding"
you are always demanding FROM the world, you would have far less to
say. �You would not be sounding off like Cindy and Mark T on
"Christian fundamentalism," you would not be consigning people every
day to bedlam houses like Cactus and Mordecai, and you would not be
finding fault with the cut of other people's tinfoil hats.
I don't care what people believe. �I do get upset when they lie about my
religion. �They can, like pj, be as delusional as they want, for all I
care, but when he has the gall to tell my what my religion is, he gets
what he deserves. �Just as I called your bluff when you quoted hate
sites as the truth.
But ah, no, you must travel everwhither into people's underwear
drawers and judge them, and there is no question that you understand
everything you see to the last squintilla. �There is no appeal to your
judging eye, and no second guessing.
I only respond to people's actions. �I only reason from what they say.
Therefore, I say, as you judge may you be judged. �When you speak
racism, you are racists. �When you speak idolatry, you are idolaters.
When you speak hate, you are haters. �And when you speak das Vaterland
and uber allus, you are Nazis.
I don't judge, I call people's behavior as I see it. �If you call that
judging and you don't like what I say, change your behavior. �My
conscience is clear; you have never apologized for your lies about
Judaism. �You should, it would help you spiritually.
I call them as I see them. �You and your Chosen People cult members
are racists, pure and simple as it grows. �Your pretense that "Israel
belongs to the Jews" is racism, pure and simple, just as "Germany for
Germans" and "America for white Anglo Saxon Protestants" is racism.
When did I ever say that? �Hint: I didn't. �You are unable to see me as
an individual, you only see me as you would see an entire group of
people that you hate in the abstract.
December 7, 2007 - alt.atheism, alt.messianic, soc.culture.jewish
concerning the Haaretz story about people in Jerusalem spitting on non-
Jewish strangershttp://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=487412&contrass
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But in the cases in
the story, the people were total strangers with no prior interaction.
And, as I said, this is a lie - I have read more than Terry or other
detractors have. I wonder if these are the same people wearing the
"Jesus is YOUR Lord & Savior" t-shirts, like the lasttime this
happened?
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Thus, Cactus asserts that a "Jesus" T-shirt in the Holy City of the
Holy People justifies spitting on strangers.
I don't view you that way. My disgust with you and your despicable
behavior is personal.
Surely. �Like Mordecai, I refuse to bow when you pass. �Which tree
will you be hanging me on, Mr. Hamon?
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Terry from reading your posts I can tell that you neither shave your
under arms or your *****.
And another Jew confesses the first thing that comes to his mind when
he thinks of a woman, no matter what age. �Is this your Talmud
training in action, Mr. Jew?
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Terry you old sons the ***** :-) How is life in dykeville you smelly
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My problem is getting a man to ***** me in the *****.
Why?
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