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"Pastor Winter JNAHC" |
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14 Dec 2003 10:50:20 PM |
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Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
spake thusly and wrote:
The pentecostals seem to worship the Holy Spirit
instead of the Father through Jesus.
It is good when you three god false-christian scum so clearly
admit your polytheism.
Let's have another good Bible study then and see why real
Christians know who Jesus is!
Though we humans (created in God's image) have body, soul and
spirit we are not each "three separate persons". Though God
manifested Himself as "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" he is not
"three separate persons".
1) God is a Spirit.
John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must
worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
2) God is holy.
I Samuel 2:2 [There is] none holy as the LORD: for [there is]
none beside thee: neither [is there] any rock like our God.
3) God is a "Holy Spirit".
4) Jesus is the "Spirit of truth"
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
5) Jesus was "dwelling with them" and promised to be "in them".
John 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot
receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye
know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
6) The "comforter" is the "Spirit of Christ"
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
7) The "Spirit of Christ" is the "Holy Spirit" is the "Spirit of
Truth"
John 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the
Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and
bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto
you.
8) The Spirit of God visited His creation robed in flesh as the
"Son".
I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the
Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on
in the world, received up into glory.
9) The fullness of God is in Jesus Christ
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of
all principality and power:
10) Jesus IS the "everlasting Father".
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
Father, The Prince of Peace.
11) Those who believe that Jesus is a "separate person" from the
"Father" don't really know Jesus at all.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?
Pastor sTeve Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.pentecostal.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
Email to let them know how you feel about
their blatant religious discrimination against www.prerapture.org
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| User: "Phillip Ray Holmes" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
17 Dec 2003 10:51:40 PM |
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Pastor Winter JNAHC <steve.NO-SPAM@prime.org> wrote in message news:<d7fqtvki9plgj2r63mjlhoqk2e46v5cckl@4ax.com>...
christian@velocitus.net spake thusly and wrote:
The pentecostals seem to worship the Holy Spirit
instead of the Father through Jesus.
It is good when you three god false-christian scum so clearly
admit your polytheism.
Let's have another good Bible study then and see why real
Christians know who Jesus is!
Though we humans (created in God's image) have body, soul and
spirit we are not each "three separate persons". Though God
manifested Himself as "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" he is not
"three separate persons".
1) God is a Spirit.
John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must
worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
2) God is holy.
I Samuel 2:2 [There is] none holy as the LORD: for [there is]
none beside thee: neither [is there] any rock like our God.
3) God is a "Holy Spirit".
4) Jesus is the "Spirit of truth"
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
5) Jesus was "dwelling with them" and promised to be "in them".
John 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot
receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye
know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
6) The "comforter" is the "Spirit of Christ"
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
7) The "Spirit of Christ" is the "Holy Spirit" is the "Spirit of
Truth"
John 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the
Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and
bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto
you.
8) The Spirit of God visited His creation robed in flesh as the
"Son".
I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the
Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on
in the world, received up into glory.
9) The fullness of God is in Jesus Christ
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of
all principality and power:
10) Jesus IS the "everlasting Father".
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
Father, The Prince of Peace.
11) Those who believe that Jesus is a "separate person" from the
"Father" don't really know Jesus at all.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?
Pastor sTeve Winter
All that I know is that Jesus Christ is God!!!!!!!!! No doubt in my
mind
The Holy Ghost revealed it to me. The Holy Bible says that if it is
hidden, it is hidden to them that are lost.....2 Corinthians 4:3,4
Romans 16:25, 26
1 Corinthians 1:17-21,25,26,27,27
Phillip Ray Holmes
ctn27548@yahoo.com
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| User: "Tiger" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
17 Dec 2003 11:16:51 PM |
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(Phillip Ray Holmes) wrote in
news:d8f9d6ea.0312172051.69284c29@posting.google.com:
All that I know is that Jesus Christ is God!!!!!!!!! No doubt in my
mind
The Holy Ghost revealed it to me.
And Mormons claim the same Holy Ghost reveal to them that the Book of
Mormon is God's word.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Robert D. Taylor" |
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18 Dec 2003 06:40:29 AM |
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"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the Living God?
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not, you are among some of
the Trinitarians that is totally warped in their interpretation of the
Godhead.
"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94552D628BAjefscrrcom@24.25.9.42...
ctn27548@yahoo.com (Phillip Ray Holmes) wrote in
news:d8f9d6ea.0312172051.69284c29@posting.google.com:
All that I know is that Jesus Christ is God!!!!!!!!! No doubt in my
mind
The Holy Ghost revealed it to me.
And Mormons claim the same Holy Ghost reveal to them that the Book of
Mormon is God's word.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Tiger" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
18 Dec 2003 09:52:17 AM |
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"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:PehEb.18533$lh6.15060@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the
Living God? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not,
you are among some of the Trinitarians that is totally warped in
their interpretation of the Godhead.
LOL.
PS. Don't top post...it's satanic.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Raymond" |
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18 Dec 2003 10:39:36 AM |
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94556EA621879jefscrrcom@24.25.9.43...
"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:PehEb.18533$lh6.15060@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the
Living God? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not,
you are among some of the Trinitarians that is totally warped in
their interpretation of the Godhead.
LOL.
PS. Don't top post...it's satanic.
No it is not! Show me where that comes from, and one can find Satan in your
lap.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Tiger" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
18 Dec 2003 11:15:45 AM |
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"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3fe1dd3a_2@storm.i-cable.com:
"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94556EA621879jefscrrcom@24.25.9.43...
"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:PehEb.18533$lh6.15060@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the
Living God? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not,
you are among some of the Trinitarians that is totally warped
in their interpretation of the Godhead.
LOL.
PS. Don't top post...it's satanic.
No it is not!
Yes it is.
Show me where that comes from, and one can find
Satan in your lap.
Top-posting is selfish. Selfishness is satanic.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Raymond" |
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19 Dec 2003 08:45:12 AM |
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94557CBD71D5Bjefscrrcom@24.25.9.41...
"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3fe1dd3a_2@storm.i-cable.com:
"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94556EA621879jefscrrcom@24.25.9.43...
"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:PehEb.18533$lh6.15060@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the
Living God? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not,
you are among some of the Trinitarians that is totally warped
in their interpretation of the Godhead.
LOL.
PS. Don't top post...it's satanic.
No it is not!
Yes it is.
Show me where that comes from, and one can find
Satan in your lap.
Top-posting is selfish. Selfishness is satanic.
Nope it is being HUMAN! You seem to very selfish, wanting other to do it
your way, and then calling them satanic if they don't do it the way you do.
.........
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Tiger" |
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19 Dec 2003 04:55:37 PM |
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"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3fe30f4c$2_1@storm.i-cable.com:
"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94557CBD71D5Bjefscrrcom@24.25.9.41...
"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94556EA621879jefscrrcom@24.25.9.43...
"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:PehEb.18533$lh6.15060@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the
Living God? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if
not, you are among some of the Trinitarians that is totally
warped in their interpretation of the Godhead.
LOL.
PS. Don't top post...it's satanic.
No it is not!
Yes it is.
Show me where that comes from, and one can find
Satan in your lap.
Top-posting is selfish. Selfishness is satanic.
Nope it is being HUMAN! You seem to very selfish, wanting other
to do it your way, and then calling them satanic if they don't do
it the way you do. ........
Try doing some research. It's not *my* way. You are too stupid to
participate in usenet anyway...you don't get half of what's going on.
For that reason, you're plonked from this end. Bye.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Robert D. Taylor" |
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18 Dec 2003 01:57:51 PM |
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Please answer the question and please explain your top post bull......
"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94556EA621879jefscrrcom@24.25.9.43...
"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:PehEb.18533$lh6.15060@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the
Living God? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not,
you are among some of the Trinitarians that is totally warped in
their interpretation of the Godhead.
LOL.
PS. Don't top post...it's satanic.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Tiger" |
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18 Dec 2003 02:05:33 PM |
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"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:PDnEb.18882$Mj6.10123@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
Please answer the question and please explain your top post
I don't respond to top-posting satanists.
bull...... "Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94556EA621879jefscrrcom@24.25.9.43...
"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:PehEb.18533$lh6.15060@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the
Living God? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not,
you are among some of the Trinitarians that is totally warped
in their interpretation of the Godhead.
LOL.
PS. Don't top post...it's satanic.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of
humble agnosticism." - Harry Emerson Fosdick
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
18 Dec 2003 02:52:47 PM |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:57:51 -0600, "Robert D. Taylor"
<roblin@bellsouth.net> spake thusly:
Please answer the question and please explain your top post bull......
I thought the top posting being Satanic remark was
funny. :) I didn't take it seriously. As for top
posting, you can look that up on the web. It violates
proper usenet etiquette. You see here, how the
responses are already out of order, but you also see
with my response, exactly in what you said, it is that
I'm responding to.
"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns94556EA621879jefscrrcom@24.25.9.43...
"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:PehEb.18533$lh6.15060@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the
Living God? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not,
you are among some of the Trinitarians that is totally warped in
their interpretation of the Godhead.
LOL.
PS. Don't top post...it's satanic.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"Atheism is folly, and atheists are the
greatest fools in nature; for they see
there is a world that could not make
itself, and yet they will not own there
is a God that made it. - Matthew Henry
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| User: "DirkM" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
18 Dec 2003 06:57:20 AM |
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"Robert D. Taylor" wrote:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the Living God?
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God
Isaiah 44:6
"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel,
and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;
I AM THE FIRST, AND I AM THE LAST;
and beside me there is no God."
(This is said by God)
Revelation 22:13
"I AM Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end,
THE FIRST AND THE LAST."
(This is said by Jesus)
So this is evidence enough for the
fact that Jesus is God, I think.
But I am no trinitarian as I don't
see that The Holy Spirit is a
Person.
regards,
Dirk
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| User: "Robert D. Taylor" |
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18 Dec 2003 07:04:16 AM |
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Bless you Dirk for those Scriptures, I am not the one confused. Tiger seems
to be puzzled on whom God is!
"DirkM" <DirkM@SpamFree.com> wrote in message
news:QuhEb.655$Ax3.1684@typhoon.bart.nl...
"Robert D. Taylor" wrote:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the Living God?
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God
Isaiah 44:6
"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel,
and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;
I AM THE FIRST, AND I AM THE LAST;
and beside me there is no God."
(This is said by God)
Revelation 22:13
"I AM Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end,
THE FIRST AND THE LAST."
(This is said by Jesus)
So this is evidence enough for the
fact that Jesus is God, I think.
But I am no trinitarian as I don't
see that The Holy Spirit is a
Person.
regards,
Dirk
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| User: "Tiger" |
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18 Dec 2003 09:53:37 AM |
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"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:zyhEb.4$Us2.0@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
Bless you Dirk for those Scriptures, I am not the one confused.
Tiger seems to be puzzled on whom God is!
"If you were blind, you would have no sin; but because you say, 'we
see,' your sin remains." - John 9:41
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
18 Dec 2003 10:41:30 AM |
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:zyhEb.4$Us2.0@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
Bless you Dirk for those Scriptures, I am not the one confused.
Tiger seems to be puzzled on whom God is!
"If you were blind, you would have no sin; but because you say, 'we
see,' your sin remains." - John 9:41
So you are saying you see now and are no longer puzzled? I suppose you can
have that verse as your personal testimonial.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Tiger" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
18 Dec 2003 11:14:47 AM |
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"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:zyhEb.4$Us2.0@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
Bless you Dirk for those Scriptures, I am not the one confused.
Tiger seems to be puzzled on whom God is!
"If you were blind, you would have no sin; but because you say,
'we see,' your sin remains." - John 9:41
So you are saying you see now and are no longer puzzled? I
suppose you can have that verse as your personal testimonial.
WHOOSH!
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Raymond" |
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18 Dec 2003 10:07:28 PM |
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:zyhEb.4$Us2.0@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
Bless you Dirk for those Scriptures, I am not the one confused.
Tiger seems to be puzzled on whom God is!
"If you were blind, you would have no sin; but because you say,
'we see,' your sin remains." - John 9:41
So you are saying you see now and are no longer puzzled? I
suppose you can have that verse as your personal testimonial.
WHOOSH!
So now your Superman.................. up,up and away...........
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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18 Dec 2003 11:36:44 PM |
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"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:zyhEb.4$Us2.0@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
Bless you Dirk for those Scriptures, I am not the one
confused. Tiger seems to be puzzled on whom God is!
"If you were blind, you would have no sin; but because you
say, 'we see,' your sin remains." - John 9:41
So you are saying you see now and are no longer puzzled? I
suppose you can have that verse as your personal testimonial.
WHOOSH!
So now your Superman.................. up,up and away...........
LOL. You're in your own world, aren't you?
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Raymond" |
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19 Dec 2003 08:19:04 AM |
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
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So you are saying you see now and are no longer puzzled? I
suppose you can have that verse as your personal testimonial.
WHOOSH!
So now your Superman.................. up,up and away...........
LOL. You're in your own world, aren't you?
I am on the world called earth, not thinking I am Whooshing around above it
as you seem to think you are.
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Tiger
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19 Dec 2003 04:53:22 PM |
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"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Tiger" <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns945663A69980jefscrrcom@24.25.9.42...
"Raymond" <rwknapp[-no-scam]@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3fe27db9$1_1@storm.i-cable.com:
So you are saying you see now and are no longer puzzled? I
suppose you can have that verse as your personal
testimonial.
WHOOSH!
So now your Superman.................. up,up and
away...........
LOL. You're in your own world, aren't you?
I am on the world called earth, not thinking I am Whooshing around
above it as you seem to think you are.
Clueless.
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Don" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
18 Dec 2003 11:39:28 AM |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:57:20 GMT, "DirkM" <DirkM@SpamFree.com> wrote:
Isaiah 44:6
"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel,
and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;
I AM THE FIRST, AND I AM THE LAST;
and beside me there is no God."
(This is said by God)
Revelation 22:13
"I AM Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end,
THE FIRST AND THE LAST."
(This is said by Jesus)
So this is evidence enough for the
fact that Jesus is God, I think.
But I am no trinitarian as I don't
see that The Holy Spirit is a
Person.
Do you see The Father as a person??
"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue,
he deceives himself and his religion is worthless."
-- James 1:26
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| User: "DirkM" |
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19 Dec 2003 12:27:41 AM |
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"Don" wrote:
Isaiah 44:6
"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel,
and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;
I AM THE FIRST, AND I AM THE LAST;
and beside me there is no God."
(This is said by God)
Revelation 22:13
"I AM Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end,
THE FIRST AND THE LAST."
(This is said by Jesus)
So this is evidence enough for the
fact that Jesus is God, I think.
But I am no trinitarian as I don't
see that The Holy Spirit is a
Person.
Do you see The Father as a person??
Yes, of course I do.
_He_ says things.
He is giving orders.
He says "I AM"
He made... (Genesis Chapter I)
He saw that what He made was good.
Therefore _He_ is a person.
But: from which bible-passages can one conclude
that the Holy Spirit is a person as trinitarians do?
Maybe the Holy Spirit is the power of God through
which He is acting on earth, maybe It is more,
but I don't see that the Holy Spirit is a person
nor do I see that It is God Himself...
regards,
Dirk
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| User: "vince garcia" |
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19 Dec 2003 06:20:38 AM |
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DirkM wrote:
But: from which bible-passages can one conclude
that the Holy Spirit is a person as trinitarians do?
As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said
Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have
called them.
Sounds like a person talking to me!
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| User: "Miguel" |
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19 Dec 2003 07:45:00 AM |
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"vince garcia" <vggarciaXX@ix.netcom.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:3FE2EE6E.232D@ix.netcom.com...
As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said
Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have
called them.
Sounds like a person talking to me!
Yes, and the Holy Spirit is God, too
Acts:5:
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the
Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it
not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart?
thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
(KJV1611)
--
Miguel
http://mmyv.com
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X-Trance: news.uni-berlin.de [184280]
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| User: "Don" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
18 Dec 2003 11:38:11 AM |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:40:29 -0600, "Robert D. Taylor"
<roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the Living God?
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not, you are among some of
the Trinitarians that is totally warped in their interpretation of the
Godhead.
Robert, why do you keep top-posting? The common and accepted practice
is to respond DIRECTLY BELOW that to which you are responding. It is
logical and certainly helps the reader follow your train of thought.
Please respond BELOW instead of at the top
D*
"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue,
he deceives himself and his religion is worthless."
-- James 1:26
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| User: "Besq" |
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18 Dec 2003 10:08:41 PM |
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Don't be such an old woman. My browser opens a new message with the cursor
in the "top" position. It is not "common and accepted practice", it is
merely a matter of personal preference.
Don <calldonREMOVEIT@something.net> wrote in message
news:6dp3uvgvhq69q1hktsa7hc4abj58hauecg@4ax.com...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:40:29 -0600, "Robert D. Taylor"
<roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the Living God?
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not, you are among some of
the Trinitarians that is totally warped in their interpretation of the
Godhead.
Robert, why do you keep top-posting? The common and accepted practice
is to respond DIRECTLY BELOW that to which you are responding. It is
logical and certainly helps the reader follow your train of thought.
Please respond BELOW instead of at the top
D*
"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein
on his tongue,
he deceives himself and his religion is worthless."
-- James 1:26
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| User: "Tiger" |
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18 Dec 2003 11:34:58 PM |
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"Besq" <Besq*ns*@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:brtt95011pn@enews3.newsguy.com:
Don't be such an old woman. My browser opens a new message with
the cursor in the "top" position.
Good point. After all, your convenience is what's primary. Here's a
friendly tip. If you place your mouse pointer to a spot in your reply
and left click, the cursor will magically appear there.
It is not "common and accepted
practice", it is merely a matter of personal preference.
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Top-posting_or_bottom-posting
http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php
Just 2 links...you can find quite a few more if you like. Seems like
it is a bit more than just "personal preference," at least for those
who aren't so concerned about their own convenience.
Don <calldonREMOVEIT@something.net> wrote in message
news:6dp3uvgvhq69q1hktsa7hc4abj58hauecg@4ax.com...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:40:29 -0600, "Robert D. Taylor"
<roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the
Living God? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not,
you are among some of the Trinitarians that is totally warped in
their interpretation of the Godhead.
Robert, why do you keep top-posting? The common and accepted
practice is to respond DIRECTLY BELOW that to which you are
responding. It is logical and certainly helps the reader follow
your train of thought.
Please respond BELOW instead of at the top
D*
"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a
tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is
worthless." -- James 1:26
--
Tiger
"All intelligent faith in God has behind it a background of humble
agnosticism."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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| User: "Iconoclast" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
19 Dec 2003 08:12:29 AM |
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"Besq" <Besq*ns*@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:brtt95011pn@enews3.newsguy.com...
Don't be such an old woman. My browser opens a new message with the
cursor
in the "top" position. It is not "common and accepted practice", it is
merely a matter of personal preference.
Well the "personal" preference of the recipients is bottom post.
Don't let that bother you.
As in an audible conversation, your "personal" preference may be to start
talking before the other has finished.
Do you just but in? Do you "overtalk" the other?
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| User: "Robert D. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Why do pentecostals emphasize Holy Spirit? |
19 Dec 2003 11:15:59 PM |
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AMEN TO THAT!
"Besq" <Besq*ns*@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:brtt95011pn@enews3.newsguy.com...
Don't be such an old woman. My browser opens a new message with the
cursor
in the "top" position. It is not "common and accepted practice", it is
merely a matter of personal preference.
Don <calldonREMOVEIT@something.net> wrote in message
news:6dp3uvgvhq69q1hktsa7hc4abj58hauecg@4ax.com...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:40:29 -0600, "Robert D. Taylor"
<roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the Living
God?
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not, you are among some
of
the Trinitarians that is totally warped in their interpretation of the
Godhead.
Robert, why do you keep top-posting? The common and accepted practice
is to respond DIRECTLY BELOW that to which you are responding. It is
logical and certainly helps the reader follow your train of thought.
Please respond BELOW instead of at the top
D*
"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight
rein
on his tongue,
he deceives himself and his religion is worthless."
-- James 1:26
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| User: "alt-hvac Moderated" |
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24 Dec 2003 10:18:51 PM |
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I'd rather have top posting than 30 or 40 posts which have nothing to do
with the subject line.
--
Christopher A. Young
Join Alt-Hvac Moderated
A free, easy to use Yahoo! group
"Robert D. Taylor" <roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:kUQEb.147$n01.42@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
AMEN TO THAT!
"Besq" <Besq*ns*@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:brtt95011pn@enews3.newsguy.com...
Don't be such an old woman. My browser opens a new message with the
cursor
in the "top" position. It is not "common and accepted practice", it is
merely a matter of personal preference.
Don <calldonREMOVEIT@something.net> wrote in message
news:6dp3uvgvhq69q1hktsa7hc4abj58hauecg@4ax.com...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:40:29 -0600, "Robert D. Taylor"
<roblin@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Tiger" Please tell me, do you believe the Christ to be the Living
God?
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God.....if not, you are among some
of
the Trinitarians that is totally warped in their interpretation of the
Godhead.
Robert, why do you keep top-posting? The common and accepted practice
is to respond DIRECTLY BELOW that to which you are responding. It is
logical and certainly helps the reader follow your train of thought.
Please respond BELOW instead of at the top
D*
"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight
rein
on his tongue,
he deceives himself and his religion is worthless."
-- James 1:26
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