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User: "Silver Blaze"
Date: 10 Aug 2004 11:55:44 AM
Object: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims
Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims
European Journal: Germany: The Problem of Forced Marriages in the Muslim
community 28.07.2004 22:30
http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,3065-184710-220045_A_1277818_1_BT,0
0.html
Forced marriages are not uncommon in Germany's Muslim community. Up to
30,000 mainly young Muslim women are thought to have been coerced ...
even beaten ... into marriage by their fathers or brothers. Most of them
originally come from Turkey, Morocco and Kosovo. The police are
powerless to do anything unless the women make an official complaint.
But many young women just go along with it because they're afraid or
because they want to protect their family's honour.
How dirty muslims rape young girls "Down Under"
Or what happens when Australia banned guns
PROTECT THE 2nd AMENDMENT TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!
Janet Albrechtsen. The Australian. 7 July 2002.
THE French call it tournantes or "take your turn" -- the French term for
the pack-rape of white girls by young Muslim men.
For 20 years the French ignored the ethnic causes of these barbaric
crimes for fear of offending multicultural man. Along the way, more
innocent young girls were pack-raped. Xenophobia divided communities.
And finally, voters punished a Centre-Left government for assuming that
the electorate was not grown up enough to discuss race without being
racist.
Last year Sylvie Lotteau, a magistrate from Bobigny, a northern Paris
suburb, described tournantes: "Their technique was to pick up a young
girl -- a white girl -- and once she had become the girlfriend of one of
the members, he would allow his mates to make use of her."
Now it's in Australia. Last week two Muslim brothers were found guilty
of the gang-rape of a young Australian girl. The victim knew one of the
brothers. She was invited for a drive but taken to a secluded park and
gang-raped while 14 Muslim boys watched.
Racially motivated gang-rape first hit the radar screen in August last
year. After the first trial, ethnic leaders such as Sheik Tajedinne
Hamed el Hilaly, imam at Lakemba mosque, said the ethnicity of the
rapists was irrelevant and simply incited racist attacks on Muslims.
But the Muslim community flogged the wrong racists -- those Muslim
rapists played the race card in the most horrific and demeaning way,
taunting victims with "you deserve it because you're Australian" and
threats to "f--- you Leb style".
And when the judge in the first trial, Megan Latham, tried to douse the
flames in an increasingly heated debate about ethnic crime with her
gratuitous comments about there being "no racial element", she simply
turned up the heat.
Since then, evidence on ethnicity-based gang-rapes has mounted. Horrific
attacks across Sydney's southwest reveal the same modus operandi as the
French tournantes. Our reaction? Like the French, we pander to
sensitivities about race and cultural issues. And so we extend the
social and political nightmare of race-based gang-rape.
A year ago the barbaric French phenomenon looked vaguely relevant. Now
it looks scary and prophetic. When 11 young Muslim men were accused of
pack raping a 14-year-old French girl in a cellar, politicians, judges
and sociologists finally began to expose and explore the terror of
tournantes.
"It's the group effect. They can't let themselves down in front of their
friends, who are urging them to commit the act," said a police commander
of a northern Paris suburb.
Pack-rape of white girls is an initiation rite of passage for a small
section of young male Muslim youth, said Jean-Jacques Rassial, a
psychotherapist at Villetaneuse University. "Fraternal bonding now
dominates. It is the law of the gang, shorn of any sexual morals," he
said.
Denmark presents a similar story. Last year, Flemming Balvig, a
criminologist at Copenhagen University, confirmed the French experience
of this barbaric rite of passage into manhood for some of these young
men.
French and Danish experts say perpetrators of gang-rape flounder between
their parents' Islamic values and society's more liberal democratic
values falling back on the most basic pack mentality of violence and
self-gratification. The progressive Danes offer immigrants advice about
the nature of Danish culture and how Denmark's liberal sexual attitudes
cannot be equated with Danish girls "asking for it".
Even the wider Arab world is confronting the costs of a culture that can
treat women as second-class citizens. Two weeks ago a ground-breaking
report by Arab scholars, commissioned by the UN, revealed that half of
all Arab women can neither read nor write. The Arab Human Development
Report 2002 found that Arab women's participation in political and
economic life rates the lowest in the world.
Transplanted to countries such as Australia, a culture which places so
little value on gender equality was always going to have problems when
faced with women who not only read and write but think and assume
control of their lives. Each of those barbaric gang-rapists showed utter
disdain for their young Western victims.
Yet in Australia racially motivated gang-rape is met by gutless
censorship from multicultural man. And like our Muslim leaders,
Australian feminists have been unusually quiet on this gender issue.
Ignoring it exacerbates it. A large group of Muslim boys involved in
these gang-rapes is still at large. The Muslim community's refusal to
acknowledge cultural issues spells disaster for more innocent young
women terrorised by Muslim boys hiding behind their ethnicity. Silence
also spells disaster politically. Suppressing frank discussion gives a
free kick to the next Jean-Marie Le Pen or Pauline Hanson.
At the community level, ignoring the link between crime and ethnicity
raises the red flag to rednecks who wish to blame all Muslims for the
barbarity of a few. This undermines a peaceful, tolerant future for the
vast majority of immigrants who embrace Australian values.
Discussing race or ethnicity is neither racist nor xenophobic. Tackling
problems head on can only encourage further immigration; ignoring them
will be immigration's death knell. Our tolerance of these Muslim
pack-rapists simply feeds their intolerance of us. It took the French 20
years to work that out. How long will it take us?
Miranda Devine. "Racist rapes: Finally the truth comes out." The
Sun-Herald. July 14 2002.
So now we know the facts, straight from the Supreme Court, that a group
of Lebanese Muslim gang rapists from south-western Sydney hunted their
victims on the basis of their ethnicity and subjected them to hours of
degrading, dehumanising torture. The young women, and girls as young as
14, were "sluts" and "Aussie pigs", the rapists said. So now that some
of the perpetrators are in jail, will those people who cried racism and
media "sensationalism" hang their heads in shame? Hardly.
The journalists, academics, legal brains and politicians who tried to
claim last August that the gang rapes of south-western Sydney were just
a run-of-the-mill police blotter story being beaten up by racists,
scaremongers and political opportunists don't ever want to acknowledge
the truth about that ugly episode in Australian history. They don't want
to acknowledge the fear and tension that ran through a part of Sydney
they rarely visit and can never understand.
This newspaper was the first to report the story, which had been common
knowledge in police and media circles, and it has never censored the
race element.
Even last week, with the conviction of two brothers for their part in
the gang rape of Miss D, who was 16 when she was held at gunpoint in a
Greenacre park, there were media outlets that downplayed the story and
air-brushed race from it.
Yet the victims have been crying out for the truth to be told. In court
on Friday, one victim gave another a card on which she had written
In August, when Judge Megan Latham handed out laughably lenient
sentences to three men in one gang rape case, which were later more than
doubled on appeal, she made a special point of debunking the race link:
"There is no evidence before me of any racial element in the commission
of these offences," she said. "There is nothing said or done by the
offenders which provides the slightest basis for imputing to them some
discrimination in terms of the nationality of their victims."
Except that later one of the victims complained her victim impact
statement had been "censored" of any "ethnic" references by prosecutors
intent on a plea bargain. She was convinced she was raped because of her
ethnicity. "You deserve it because you're an Australian," the rapists
told her during the five-hour attack.
It's just so inconvenient of the victims to insist on telling the truth.
"I looked in his eyes. I had never seen such indifference," one
18-year-old victim, codenamed Miss C, told the court, remembering one of
the 14 men who called her "Aussie pig", gang raped her 25 times over a
six-hour period in Bankstown and Chullora, and then turned a hose on
her. "I'm going to f*** you Leb style," he said.
Fourteen gang rapists have been convicted, or pleaded guilty, thanks to
the courage of seven victims who testified for days in court as their
tormentors smirked nearby, the men's families threatened them and
defence lawyers suggested they had enjoyed the rapes.
"They're very brave, very strong and very courageous young women," said
Salvation Army Major Joyce Harmer, who held the hands of many of the
victims through the trials. "They knew this was something they had to
do."
These were racist crimes. They were hate crimes. The rapists chose their
victims on the basis of race. That fact is crucial to this story. If the
perpetrators had been Anglo-Celtic Australians, the furore would have
been enormous. No newspaper would have left out that fact and you can
bet the guilt and shame would have been spread far and wide.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 14 Aug 2004 01:22:06 PM
Hello Silver Blaze <pintaguinness@yourlocal.com>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :


Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims

I snipped the whole stupid thing without even reading it.
We REAL Christians need to BRING CHRIST to the dirty muslims, wiccans,
catholics, and others who don't know Him.
Jesus did NOT teach that we should destroy God's enemies. Not the
muslims, or anyone else.
Otherwise you would have died long ago!
Christian
.

User: "Gnos Theos"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 11 Aug 2004 11:42:47 AM
For Islamic TV and some of what mulims beleive go
to http://www.memri.org/video
Silver Blaze <pintaguinness@yourlocal.com> wrote in message news:<1092156951.328920@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net>...

Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims

European Journal: Germany: The Problem of Forced Marriages in the Muslim
community 28.07.2004 22:30

Yes, guess what Muslims are not peace loving folk, and
consider us ginn to fill hell with.
.

User: "Michael"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 10 Aug 2004 04:43:55 PM
In article <1092156951.328920@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net>, Silver Blaze
<pintaguinness@yourlocal.com> wrote:

Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims

It is the way of our Father, Elyon YHVH Elohym to restore and refine, not
to destroy. it would therefore appear, that a real Christian would strive
to restore 'muslims', not to destroy them. Notwithstanding that they do
not want to hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ, we have been commanded by our
Lord to tell them anyway. Beyond that it is up to them; however,
Christian nations whose laws are based upon the Scripture, should not look
the other way if anyone transgresses the laws of the host nation fearing
the false witness and charge of offending a multicultural. People of any
culture should be welcome in a Christian culture and provided individual
religious freedom, but Christian culture should not bend to the whims of
alien cultural ideals, for all cultural ideals are not of equal value.
The fruits of alien cultures are well known, why would a Christian culture
want to be like them?


European Journal: Germany: The Problem of Forced Marriages in the Muslim
community 28.07.2004 22:30

http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,3065-184710-220045_A_1277818_1_BT,0
0.html

Forced marriages are not uncommon in Germany's Muslim community. Up to
30,000 mainly young Muslim women are thought to have been coerced ...
even beaten ... into marriage by their fathers or brothers. Most of them
originally come from Turkey, Morocco and Kosovo. The police are
powerless to do anything unless the women make an official complaint.
But many young women just go along with it because they're afraid or
because they want to protect their family's honour.

How dirty muslims rape young girls "Down Under"

Or what happens when Australia banned guns

PROTECT THE 2nd AMENDMENT TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!

Janet Albrechtsen. The Australian. 7 July 2002.

THE French call it tournantes or "take your turn" -- the French term for
the pack-rape of white girls by young Muslim men.

For 20 years the French ignored the ethnic causes of these barbaric
crimes for fear of offending multicultural man. Along the way, more
innocent young girls were pack-raped. Xenophobia divided communities.
And finally, voters punished a Centre-Left government for assuming that
the electorate was not grown up enough to discuss race without being
racist.

Last year Sylvie Lotteau, a magistrate from Bobigny, a northern Paris
suburb, described tournantes: "Their technique was to pick up a young
girl -- a white girl -- and once she had become the girlfriend of one of
the members, he would allow his mates to make use of her."

Now it's in Australia. Last week two Muslim brothers were found guilty
of the gang-rape of a young Australian girl. The victim knew one of the
brothers. She was invited for a drive but taken to a secluded park and
gang-raped while 14 Muslim boys watched.

Racially motivated gang-rape first hit the radar screen in August last
year. After the first trial, ethnic leaders such as Sheik Tajedinne
Hamed el Hilaly, imam at Lakemba mosque, said the ethnicity of the
rapists was irrelevant and simply incited racist attacks on Muslims.

But the Muslim community flogged the wrong racists -- those Muslim
rapists played the race card in the most horrific and demeaning way,
taunting victims with "you deserve it because you're Australian" and
threats to "f--- you Leb style".

And when the judge in the first trial, Megan Latham, tried to douse the
flames in an increasingly heated debate about ethnic crime with her
gratuitous comments about there being "no racial element", she simply
turned up the heat.

Since then, evidence on ethnicity-based gang-rapes has mounted. Horrific
attacks across Sydney's southwest reveal the same modus operandi as the
French tournantes. Our reaction? Like the French, we pander to
sensitivities about race and cultural issues. And so we extend the
social and political nightmare of race-based gang-rape.

A year ago the barbaric French phenomenon looked vaguely relevant. Now
it looks scary and prophetic. When 11 young Muslim men were accused of
pack raping a 14-year-old French girl in a cellar, politicians, judges
and sociologists finally began to expose and explore the terror of
tournantes.

"It's the group effect. They can't let themselves down in front of their
friends, who are urging them to commit the act," said a police commander
of a northern Paris suburb.

Pack-rape of white girls is an initiation rite of passage for a small
section of young male Muslim youth, said Jean-Jacques Rassial, a
psychotherapist at Villetaneuse University. "Fraternal bonding now
dominates. It is the law of the gang, shorn of any sexual morals," he
said.

Denmark presents a similar story. Last year, Flemming Balvig, a
criminologist at Copenhagen University, confirmed the French experience
of this barbaric rite of passage into manhood for some of these young
men.

French and Danish experts say perpetrators of gang-rape flounder between
their parents' Islamic values and society's more liberal democratic
values falling back on the most basic pack mentality of violence and
self-gratification. The progressive Danes offer immigrants advice about
the nature of Danish culture and how Denmark's liberal sexual attitudes
cannot be equated with Danish girls "asking for it".

Even the wider Arab world is confronting the costs of a culture that can
treat women as second-class citizens. Two weeks ago a ground-breaking
report by Arab scholars, commissioned by the UN, revealed that half of
all Arab women can neither read nor write. The Arab Human Development
Report 2002 found that Arab women's participation in political and
economic life rates the lowest in the world.

Transplanted to countries such as Australia, a culture which places so
little value on gender equality was always going to have problems when
faced with women who not only read and write but think and assume
control of their lives. Each of those barbaric gang-rapists showed utter
disdain for their young Western victims.

Yet in Australia racially motivated gang-rape is met by gutless
censorship from multicultural man. And like our Muslim leaders,
Australian feminists have been unusually quiet on this gender issue.

Ignoring it exacerbates it. A large group of Muslim boys involved in
these gang-rapes is still at large. The Muslim community's refusal to
acknowledge cultural issues spells disaster for more innocent young
women terrorised by Muslim boys hiding behind their ethnicity. Silence
also spells disaster politically. Suppressing frank discussion gives a
free kick to the next Jean-Marie Le Pen or Pauline Hanson.

At the community level, ignoring the link between crime and ethnicity
raises the red flag to rednecks who wish to blame all Muslims for the
barbarity of a few. This undermines a peaceful, tolerant future for the
vast majority of immigrants who embrace Australian values.

Discussing race or ethnicity is neither racist nor xenophobic. Tackling
problems head on can only encourage further immigration; ignoring them
will be immigration's death knell. Our tolerance of these Muslim
pack-rapists simply feeds their intolerance of us. It took the French 20
years to work that out. How long will it take us?

Miranda Devine. "Racist rapes: Finally the truth comes out." The
Sun-Herald. July 14 2002.

So now we know the facts, straight from the Supreme Court, that a group
of Lebanese Muslim gang rapists from south-western Sydney hunted their
victims on the basis of their ethnicity and subjected them to hours of
degrading, dehumanising torture. The young women, and girls as young as
14, were "sluts" and "Aussie pigs", the rapists said. So now that some
of the perpetrators are in jail, will those people who cried racism and
media "sensationalism" hang their heads in shame? Hardly.

The journalists, academics, legal brains and politicians who tried to
claim last August that the gang rapes of south-western Sydney were just
a run-of-the-mill police blotter story being beaten up by racists,
scaremongers and political opportunists don't ever want to acknowledge
the truth about that ugly episode in Australian history. They don't want
to acknowledge the fear and tension that ran through a part of Sydney
they rarely visit and can never understand.

This newspaper was the first to report the story, which had been common
knowledge in police and media circles, and it has never censored the
race element.

Even last week, with the conviction of two brothers for their part in
the gang rape of Miss D, who was 16 when she was held at gunpoint in a
Greenacre park, there were media outlets that downplayed the story and
air-brushed race from it.

Yet the victims have been crying out for the truth to be told. In court
on Friday, one victim gave another a card on which she had written

In August, when Judge Megan Latham handed out laughably lenient
sentences to three men in one gang rape case, which were later more than
doubled on appeal, she made a special point of debunking the race link:
"There is no evidence before me of any racial element in the commission
of these offences," she said. "There is nothing said or done by the
offenders which provides the slightest basis for imputing to them some
discrimination in terms of the nationality of their victims."

Except that later one of the victims complained her victim impact
statement had been "censored" of any "ethnic" references by prosecutors
intent on a plea bargain. She was convinced she was raped because of her
ethnicity. "You deserve it because you're an Australian," the rapists
told her during the five-hour attack.

It's just so inconvenient of the victims to insist on telling the truth.

"I looked in his eyes. I had never seen such indifference," one
18-year-old victim, codenamed Miss C, told the court, remembering one of
the 14 men who called her "Aussie pig", gang raped her 25 times over a
six-hour period in Bankstown and Chullora, and then turned a hose on
her. "I'm going to f*** you Leb style," he said.

Fourteen gang rapists have been convicted, or pleaded guilty, thanks to
the courage of seven victims who testified for days in court as their
tormentors smirked nearby, the men's families threatened them and
defence lawyers suggested they had enjoyed the rapes.

"They're very brave, very strong and very courageous young women," said
Salvation Army Major Joyce Harmer, who held the hands of many of the
victims through the trials. "They knew this was something they had to
do."

These were racist crimes. They were hate crimes. The rapists chose their
victims on the basis of race. That fact is crucial to this story. If the
perpetrators had been Anglo-Celtic Australians, the furore would have
been enormous. No newspaper would have left out that fact and you can
bet the guilt and shame would have been spread far and wide.

--
May God Bless You
Michael
GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY. GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL.
We make a Living by what we get, We make a Life by what we give.
.
User: "Peter Terry"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 11 Aug 2004 12:24:11 AM
"Michael" <mikeburt@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:mikeburt-1008041743460001@192.168.1.104...

Christian culture should not bend to the whims of
alien cultural ideals,

"Every manifestation of human culture, every product of art,
science and technical skill, which we see before our eyes to-day, is
almost exclusively the product of the Aryan creative power. This very
fact fully justifies the conclusion that it was the Aryan alone who
founded a superior type of humanity" Adolph Hitler, Mien Kampf

for all cultural ideals are not of equal value.

"For in a world which would be composed of mongrels and negroids all
ideals of human beauty and nobility and all hopes of an idealized
future for our humanity would be lost forever." Adolph Hitler, Mien Kampf


The fruits of alien cultures are well known,

"All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because
the originally creative race died out, as a result of the
contamination on the blood." Adolph Hitler, Mien Kampf


why would a Christian culture want to be like them?

"It is especially the cultural creativeness which disappears when a
superior race inter-mixes with an inferior one." Adolph Hitler, Mien Kampf
PeterT
.
User: "Michael"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 11 Aug 2004 03:48:02 PM
In article <4119ad7a_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Peter Terry"
<mombassa@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Michael" <mikeburt@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:mikeburt-1008041743460001@192.168.1.104...


Christian culture should not bend to the whims of
alien cultural ideals,

"Every manifestation of human culture, every product of art,
science and technical skill, which we see before our eyes to-day, is
almost exclusively the product of the Aryan creative power. This very
fact fully justifies the conclusion that it was the Aryan alone who
founded a superior type of humanity" Adolph Hitler, Mien Kampf

for all cultural ideals are not of equal value.

"For in a world which would be composed of mongrels and negroids all
ideals of human beauty and nobility and all hopes of an idealized
future for our humanity would be lost forever." Adolph Hitler, Mien Kampf


The fruits of alien cultures are well known,

"All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because
the originally creative race died out, as a result of the
contamination on the blood." Adolph Hitler, Mien Kampf


why would a Christian culture want to be like them?

"It is especially the cultural creativeness which disappears when a
superior race inter-mixes with an inferior one." Adolph Hitler, Mien Kampf

Your comments have to do with Hitler's racism, not relevant to whether or
not any cultural value has equal value and is non sequitor. Relevant
quotations by Hitler that prove that he was no Christian, no way, no how.
Thanks for disproving your previous point.
--
May God Bless You
Michael
GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY. GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL.
We make a Living by what we get, We make a Life by what we give.
.
User: "Reuben Hick"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 11 Aug 2004 04:58:25 PM
"Michael" <mikeburt@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:mikeburt-1108041647470001@192.168.1.104...

In article <4119ad7a_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Peter Terry"
<mombassa@yahoo.com> wrote:
Your comments have to do with Hitler's racism, not relevant to whether or
not any cultural value has equal value and is non sequitor. Relevant
quotations by Hitler that prove that he was no Christian, no way, no how.
Thanks for disproving your previous point.

I lay odds that Peter was quoting Hitler's "Mein Kampf" from memory.
.



User: "Peter Terry"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 10 Aug 2004 07:47:26 PM
"Michael" <mikeburt@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:mikeburt-1008041743460001@192.168.1.104...

In article <1092156951.328920@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net>, Silver Blaze
<pintaguinness@yourlocal.com> wrote:

Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims


It is the way of our Father, Elyon YHVH Elohym to restore and refine, not
to destroy. it would therefore appear, that a real Christian would strive
to restore 'muslims', not to destroy them. Notwithstanding that they do
not want to hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ, we have been commanded by our
Lord to tell them anyway. Beyond that it is up to them; however,
Christian nations whose laws are based upon the Scripture, should not look
the other way if anyone transgresses the laws of the host nation fearing
the false witness and charge of offending a multicultural. People of any
culture should be welcome in a Christian culture and provided individual
religious freedom, but Christian culture should not bend to the whims of
alien cultural ideals, for all cultural ideals are not of equal value.
The fruits of alien cultures are well known, why would a Christian culture
want to be like them?

Interpretation..Throw the Bible down their throats at the
barrel of a gun, whether they want conversion or not.
Are you sure your not a Neo Nazi, or are you just
one of those missguided street Bible bashers?
Christian culture and Christian values are clearly
demonstrated by the history of the Roman Church,
and today's wacko Christian right who view Bush as some
kinds of crusading religious conqueror.
Jesus rejects you all.
PeterT
.
User: "Mad World"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 10 Aug 2004 10:25:21 PM
"Peter Terry" <mombassa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:41196ca0_1@news.iprimus.com.au...


"Michael" <mikeburt@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:mikeburt-1008041743460001@192.168.1.104...

In article <1092156951.328920@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net>, Silver Blaze
<pintaguinness@yourlocal.com> wrote:

Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims


It is the way of our Father, Elyon YHVH Elohym to restore and refine,

not

to destroy. it would therefore appear, that a real Christian would

strive

to restore 'muslims', not to destroy them. Notwithstanding that they do
not want to hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ, we have been commanded by

our

Lord to tell them anyway. Beyond that it is up to them; however,
Christian nations whose laws are based upon the Scripture, should not

look

the other way if anyone transgresses the laws of the host nation fearing
the false witness and charge of offending a multicultural. People of

any

culture should be welcome in a Christian culture and provided individual
religious freedom, but Christian culture should not bend to the whims of
alien cultural ideals, for all cultural ideals are not of equal value.
The fruits of alien cultures are well known, why would a Christian

culture

want to be like them?

Interpretation..Throw the Bible down their throats at the
barrel of a gun, whether they want conversion or not.

Are you sure your not a Neo Nazi, or are you just
one of those missguided street Bible bashers?

Christian culture and Christian values are clearly
demonstrated by the history of the Roman Church,
and today's wacko Christian right who view Bush as some
kinds of crusading religious conqueror.

Jesus rejects you all.

Amen to that! God loves all his children... not just those with snow white
skin.
.

User: "Terrell D Lewis"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 13 Aug 2004 11:19:26 PM
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:47:26 +1000, "Peter Terry" <mombassa@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Interpretation..Throw the Bible down their throats at the
barrel of a gun, whether they want conversion or not.

There are only two religions in the world today that accept forced
conversion, Islam and Roman Catholicism (the RCC is not currently (to
my knowledge using forced conversion but have never disavowed the
practice).

Are you sure your not a Neo Nazi, or are you just
one of those missguided street Bible bashers?

Several religions believe in evangelizing, including Islam and
Christianity, most religions evangelize in one form or another, even
the "non religion" atheism. as you can see in the crossposts back and
forth from/to alt.atheism, not all originating in christian groups.
Indeed, atheism has the upper hand in being allowed to actively
evangelise in the US public school system through the teaching of the
theory of evolution to the exclusion of any other view.

Christian culture and Christian values are clearly
demonstrated by the history of the Roman Church,
and today's wacko Christian right who view Bush as some
kinds of crusading religious conqueror.

Neither the RCC nor the christian right represent the Christ of
Scripture.

Jesus rejects you all.

Almost, Jesus judges the heart.
Terrell
.
User: "Peter Terry"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 13 Aug 2004 11:58:41 PM
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:4b4rh05r58b986v4lt7p4dm9ruo6661crl@4ax.com...

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:47:26 +1000, "Peter Terry" <mombassa@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Interpretation..Throw the Bible down their throats at the
barrel of a gun, whether they want conversion or not.


There are only two religions in the world today that accept forced
conversion, Islam and Roman Catholicism (the RCC is not currently (to
my knowledge using forced conversion but have never disavowed the
practice).


Are you sure your not a Neo Nazi, or are you just
one of those missguided street Bible bashers?


Several religions believe in evangelizing, including Islam and
Christianity, most religions evangelize in one form or another, even
the "non religion" atheism. as you can see in the crossposts back and
forth from/to alt.atheism, not all originating in christian groups.
Indeed, atheism has the upper hand in being allowed to actively
evangelise in the US public school system through the teaching of the
theory of evolution to the exclusion of any other view.



Christian culture and Christian values are clearly
demonstrated by the history of the Roman Church,
and today's wacko Christian right who view Bush as some
kinds of crusading religious conqueror.


Neither the RCC nor the christian right represent the Christ of
Scripture.


Jesus rejects you all.


Almost, Jesus judges the heart.

Indeed. ;-)

Terrell

.
User: "Michael"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 16 Aug 2004 03:41:00 PM
In article <411d9bfb_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Peter Terry"
<mombassa@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:4b4rh05r58b986v4lt7p4dm9ruo6661crl@4ax.com...

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:47:26 +1000, "Peter Terry" <mombassa@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Interpretation..Throw the Bible down their throats at the
barrel of a gun, whether they want conversion or not.


There are only two religions in the world today that accept forced
conversion, Islam and Roman Catholicism (the RCC is not currently (to
my knowledge using forced conversion but have never disavowed the
practice).


Are you sure your not a Neo Nazi, or are you just
one of those missguided street Bible bashers?


Several religions believe in evangelizing, including Islam and
Christianity, most religions evangelize in one form or another, even
the "non religion" atheism. as you can see in the crossposts back and
forth from/to alt.atheism, not all originating in christian groups.
Indeed, atheism has the upper hand in being allowed to actively
evangelise in the US public school system through the teaching of the
theory of evolution to the exclusion of any other view.



Christian culture and Christian values are clearly
demonstrated by the history of the Roman Church,
and today's wacko Christian right who view Bush as some
kinds of crusading religious conqueror.


Neither the RCC nor the christian right represent the Christ of
Scripture.


Jesus rejects you all.


Almost, Jesus judges the heart.

Indeed. ;-)

IOW, perhaps you don't?
--
May God Bless You
Michael
GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY. GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL.
We make a Living by what we get, We make a Life by what we give.
.



User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 18 Aug 2004 12:25:57 PM
Peter Terry wrote:

"Michael" <mikeburt@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:mikeburt-1008041743460001@192.168.1.104...

In article <1092156951.328920@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net>, Silver Blaze
<pintaguinness@yourlocal.com> wrote:


Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims


It is the way of our Father, Elyon YHVH Elohym to restore and refine, not
to destroy. it would therefore appear, that a real Christian would strive
to restore 'muslims', not to destroy them. Notwithstanding that they do
not want to hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ, we have been commanded by our
Lord to tell them anyway. Beyond that it is up to them; however,
Christian nations whose laws are based upon the Scripture, should not look
the other way if anyone transgresses the laws of the host nation fearing
the false witness and charge of offending a multicultural. People of any
culture should be welcome in a Christian culture and provided individual
religious freedom, but Christian culture should not bend to the whims of
alien cultural ideals, for all cultural ideals are not of equal value.
The fruits of alien cultures are well known, why would a Christian culture
want to be like them?


Interpretation..Throw the Bible down their throats at the
barrel of a gun, whether they want conversion or not.

Many muslims have converted to the truth because they were told
when not willing to listen. No one shoved anything down their throats
as they listened even when refusing to.
The message that you carry is the one shoving things down peoples
throats, and other orifaces as when available. Your words are full
of force, dominace and venom. What must your message contain, eh ?

Are you sure your not a Neo Nazi, or are you just
one of those missguided street Bible bashers?

Examine your own heart first. What mote is in your eye ?


Christian culture and Christian values are clearly
demonstrated by the history of the Roman Church,
and today's wacko Christian right who view Bush as some
kinds of crusading religious conqueror.

Jesus rejects you all.

I don not recall seeing a blinding flash in the heavens
and YOU arriving clothed in white linnen, and surrounded by clouds....


PeterT



me
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User: "Onlooker"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 10 Aug 2004 12:20:43 PM
Let's not start a religious war hey ... oops it already started
The sins you mention are not unique to muslims, the whole world is involved
in sin, everyone sins
It's not upto Christians to "destroy" it is up to Christians to tell people
to repent ie Acts 2v38
God shows us Love and Discipline in order to help us repent
God does not "hate" muslims nor anyone but what he does hate is sin, people
were defined to live upto 120 years sin they are sinners
In Gen 6 we see the world was full of sin, sin is damaging to the people ,
God stopped the people killing each other
God has set a day to judge people, people harming people with sin are
evildoers
God will decide who goes where
People live for a time and die: The world is impatient hence sinful since
they are unaware time is eternal
People will face there creator
.

User: "Roger Pearse"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 14 Aug 2004 12:08:43 PM
Silver Blaze <pintaguinness@yourlocal.com> wrote in message news:<1092156951.328920@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net>...

Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims

Presumably by giving them all a bath? Clean Muslims, now, we can relate to.
Fight for Soap!
:-)
All the best,
Roger Pearse
.
User: "Mad World"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 14 Aug 2004 05:05:20 PM
"Roger Pearse" <roger_pearse@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3a88eeea.0408140908.fb28669@posting.google.com...

Silver Blaze <pintaguinness@yourlocal.com> wrote in message

news:<1092156951.328920@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net>...

Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims


Presumably by giving them all a bath? Clean Muslims, now, we can relate

to.


Fight for Soap!

:-)

All the best,

Roger Pearse

It's not a strictly Muslim thing, this aversion to soap. Try riding a
packed train anywhere in Europe during Summertime... ah, a potpourri of
scents (underarm and cheesy feet).
.


User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims 18 Aug 2004 12:17:28 PM
Silver Blaze wrote:

Real Christains must destroy dirty muslims

Is this what Jesus taught in the new testament ?
Wanton murder ?
.


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