Documented deception, lies, malice and heresies from "Bible Bob" Sowle

August 11, 2007

"Fact. You quoted a section of Scripture which deals with turning a person
over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh.

Hence, you were preaching
that Glenn should be killed. The reason the person was to be turned over to
Satan was because he lusted after his fathers wife. Hence, since you were
talking about Glenn and citing those verses about Glenn you accusded Glenn
of sex with his fathers wife and declared Glenn worthy of death." [Fiction.
Actually a smear attempt by "Bible Bob." Reference the entry entitled "A
series showing intentional and admitted deception by "Bible Bob"" which
explains in detail how "Bible Bob" is attempting to mislead.

"Carl McCasky has proven himself to be a deceiver on numerous occassions
[sic]. But this time in his attempt to deceive readers in his post titled
"There is no Biblical fellowship with someone who worships a different God",
Carl went way to far." [Please refer to the entry entitled "A series showing
intentional and admitted deception by "Bible Bob"" which shows that the
entry "Bible Bob" refers to was started by a person known on Usenet as 軒ndy
and that "Bible Bob" has recognized and admitted this fact yet intentionally
chooses to misrepresent it. Also it is interesting that "Bible Bob" has
started undertaking the misspelling of my name. It's not the easiest one to
remember how it is spelled so I will give him the benefit of a doubt since
his spelling is not perfect.]

"He [Carl] accused Glenn of committing fornication with his own mother, his
father's wife." [This is a fabrication by "Bible Bob" in a repeat of the
attempt he made before. Please refer to the entry entitled "A series showing
intentional and admitted deception by "Bible Bob"" to see again why this is
a false accusation.]

"Here is what Carl wrote:

I and other Christians have rejected Glenn's heresies and even though he has
been corrected by many Christians he still refuses to correct his errors
which leads we Christians to have nothing further to do with him (Romans
16:17; 1 Cor. 5:4-13;..." [Please note "Bible Bob" neglected to present my
COMPLETE quote. Again please refer to the entry entitled "A series showing
intentional and admitted deception by "Bible Bob"" and note that he leaves
off several passages I cite, the common theme being instructions to
Christians to have nothing to do with heretics and their heresies. "Bible
Bob" is resorting to misquoting and taking the partial quote out of context
to try to slander me.]

"Carl demands that Christians deliver Glenn to Satan for the destruction of
the flesh. Why? According to the context it is because Glenn had sex with
his father's wife.

What kind of "Christian" would make such a charge against another man? Would
any of you men charge another man with screwing his own mother? That is not
a "man" thing to do because normal men do not even think that way. And I
can't think of one woman who would do such a thing either." [I never made
any such demand. "Bible Bob" had to prooftext and take out all the other
Bible passages I cited where the common theme making my point is the
instruction to Christians not to have anything to do with heretics and their
heresies. The fact that he refuses to include the remaining passages shows a
marked lack of honesty and a serious intent of malice on his part.]

"Carl owes Glenn and all of us an apology. For Carl to demand Glenn's death
at the hand of Satan for fornication with his own mother is not an exercise
of free speech. It is a demon exercising Carl." [Since I never made any
such demand and since "Bible Bob" is misrepresenting what I posted, I do not
owe Glenn an apology. Actually for this evil exercise in deception from
"Bible Bob" he needs to beg for forgiveness.]

"You, yourself, Carl McCasky, believe that works are necessary for salvation
and you are the Baptist Methodist cult I was specifically talking about."
[Another misrepresentation by "Bible Bob" since I do not nor ever have
believed that works are necessary for salvation. If anyone cares to check,
please do a Google search for my posts concerning salvation and you will see
that I espouse the Biblical teaching that salvation is by faith in Jesus
Christ as one's Lord and Savior and it is by God's grace that we receive
that salvation.]

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August 10, 2007

After pointing out that "Bible Bob" really only cares about himself, "Bible
Bob" responds with "Nah, I care about rescuing you from the consequnces of
sin." [Interesting wording. Is "Bible Bob" implying that he can rescue me
from the consequences of sin? Sure seems that way. But that's something only
Jesus Christ did for us when He was crucified for our sins. Could this be a
Freudian slip on "Bible Bob"'s part?]

Also on July 10, "Bible Bob" posted the following to me:

"Showing your true colors again, I see. Telling the big lies and sticking
to them in your best Third Reich style. You learned Hitler's Goebbels "tell
the big lie and stick to it well." Now that you have that under your belt,
maybe you can find to study the word of God."

Then two paragraphs later he demands:

"Prove one of your malicious slanderous claims, Carl. You can't. If you
could you would have posted the documentation fifty times."

[Reasonable individuals would consider accusing someone of being in the
"Third Reich" (a Nazi reference) is being quite malicious and slanderous as
well.]

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August 10, 2007

"You [Carl] are about as "spiritual" as a three year old; except the three
year old wouldn't be evil like you [Carl]." [And "Bible Bob" doesn't
consider calling someone else evil not a malicious act when it is clearly
not true? I know I am sinful because I am not perfect but I am not evil.
Just another smear tactic by "Bible Bob."]

"When did I call a cult children of God?" ["Bible Bob" refered to Jehovah's
Witnesses and their parent organization as "children of God" on multiple
occasions. "Bible Bob" refered to Mormons and their parent organization as
"children of God" on multiple occasions.]

"Face it Carl, you are a hate monger and a messenger of Satan sent by Satan
to harm the children of God that you chose to speak evil of." [More
malicious slander from "Bible Bob" Sowle.]

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August 9, 2007

"Carl, you are joking aren't you? If you aren't joking; what are you
smoking, or snorting, or shooting up, or inhaling, or drinking? Your joking
right? Please tell me you are joking or on drugs so I won't think you have
gone completely bonkers." [And right off, "Bible Bob" begins with the ad
hominem.]

"What kind of ego would come up with "The attempt to place the
responsibility on me for convincing you of the truth of the Biblical
doctrine of the Trinity that you already know, will not work." ? I never
placed any responsibility on you. Responsibility is delegated to those who
have the maturity, intellect, and stamina to handle the responsibility. Why
would I place responsibility on you when you have proven yourself to be
immature, lacking in knowledge of the Scriptures, and without the stamina
necessary to complete the task I might assign you." [Continuing in the same
post, "Bible Bob" continues with his ad hominem and commits his first act of
attempted deception. On several occasions, "Bible Bob" demanded I prove his
errors and prove where he has lied. I did so at first yet all he could do
was respond with variations of "you didn't prove anything." Therefore when
"Bible Bob" claims "I never placed any responsibility on you" he is lying.]

"I have not said the hogwash you said I said." [Well, the "hogwash"
appropriately enough, is documented in this text file and further examples
can be seen through a simple Google search on Usenet newsgroups. Again
"Bible Bob" is attempting to deceive.]

"I blame you for being arrogant, and hateful, and ignorant of the Scriptures
and for worshipping man gods." [More slander and attempted deception from
"Bible Bob."]

"I have been studing the trinity doctrine for thirty years and know it
better than you do which is why I am able to counter every one of your
wrongly divided presentations with truth from the word of God." [Actually
"Bible Bob" has only countered with prooftexting, misdefinitions, errors in
Greek translations and grammar and intentional misrepresentations. He has
denied many essential doctrines of Biblical Christianity including, the
Trinity, the deity of Christ, salvation by grace via faith in Jesus and
others. After researching "Bible Bob"'s history on Usenet I discovered that
many Christians corrected his errors yet "Bible Bob" countered with
falsehoods and false teachings. "Bible Bob", as documented in this text file
as well as Usenet has been refuted numerous times yet pretends they never
happened. "Bible Bob" is in denial.]

"When you post one of your Joseph Smith posts and I see it is wrong; the
next article by your Joseph Smith will be ignored because he lost
credability the first time." [I never posted any article by "Joseph Smith."
"Bible Bob" may be confusing an author I did reference to the founder of the
Mormon church.]

"Every time I try to communicate with you, you repond with Pope so and so
says so and so." [Again a clear and intentional misrepresentation on "Bible
Bob"'s part. I initially felt it appropriate to respond to him directly but
he kept claiming that my knowledge wasn't up to his level so I deferred to
folks like John Ankerberg, John MacArthur, John Wesley, Arthur Pink and many
other men of God who I knew were more knowledgable than I that had written
refutation of the tired old heresies "Bible Bob" kept espousing. In
response, rather than addressing the gentlemen's points, "Bible Bob" started
accusing me of "man worship" {now he refers to my "worship of man gods"}
which is patently absurd and untrue. So rather than address their points,
"Bible Bob" engages in fallacies.]

"I know the word of God because I study the word of God rather than what men
say about the word of God. I have been careful to set myself under those
men and women who really love God and prove to me that they know God and
know God's word by their behavior and by rightly dividing the word of
truth." [Actually "Bible Bob" let it be known on more than one occasion that
he is self-taught and is subject to no one. Now he is flip-flopping?]

"You are blowing smoke, trying to be intellectual and philosophical so you
can look like a spiritual big shot. What you are really doing is showing
your lack of spirituality and loyalty to the systems of the world which are
under the control of the god of this world who is Satan.' [What is so ironic
and telling is that in this slander by "Bible Bob" he is in essence,
describing himself accurately.]

"All I want to do is learn and do the word of God and love God, the Lord
Jesus Christ, and God's people. I'm not here to argue or debate you.
Debating is a sin. Look it up." ["Debating is a sin"? If so, then why does
"Bible Bob" revel in it and attempt to lure others into vain and pointless
arguments? Is this an example of "Bible Bob"'s hypocrisy? He wants to learn?
Then why does he constantly exhibit an unteachable spirit? If he wants to do
the Word of God then why does he routinely engage in slander, malicious
words, vitriolic posts, ad hominem and other behaviors that clearly do not
represent the Word of God? I feel that he is, as he wrote in an earlier
paragraph, "trying to be intellectual and philosophical so [he] can look
like a spiritual big shot."]

"You just wannabe a big shot that people will worship they way you worship
your men gods." [More slanderous lies from "Bible Bob."]

"You were led down the wrong path by false teachers as you prove every time
you post one of their articles." [If one were to believe "Bible Bob" it is
"Bible Bob" and only "Bible Bob" that presents complete and total Biblical
truth and all others are false teachers. Remember "Bible Bob" keeps telling
people things like "You would be better off reading and following my
teachings than the teachings of the sects because mine are more accurate."
{June 30, 2007} A partial list of Christians I have cited materials include
Adam Clarke, Flavius Josephus, A.B. Bruce, John Calvin, John Ankerberg, John
MacArthur, John Wesley, James White, Walter Martin, Thomas Aquinas, Charles
Spurgeon, Arthur Pink, Ray Stedman, G.K. Chesterson, Jonathan Edwards,
Charles Finney, Matthew Henry, David Jeremiah, J. Vernon McGee, E.M. Bounds,
George Whitefield, Ron Rhodes, Robert Bowman Jr., John Bunyan, R.A. Torrey,
R.C. Sproul, Jerry Falwell, Ron Ritchie, John Weldon, Charles Stanley,
Oswald Chambers, Warren Doud, Scott Grant, Jay Hess, John Morehead, and
numerous others. However, "Bible Bob" declares all of them to be false
teachers even though he fails to show why they are false and he is true
especially when what "Bible Bob" teaches has been shown to be contrary to
scripture.]

"I learn very well from real teachers and from personal study and since I
have holy spirit in me it is possible to learn that way, too." [From "Bible
Bob"s own posts, the only real teacher according to "Bible Bob" is..."Bible
Bob." As to his claim that the "holy spirit" {interesting that he keeps
using lower case} is in him, if it were truly the Holy Spirit, he wouldn't
be spreading slander and lies the way he does as documented here and
elsewhere.]

"Thee [sic] is only one criterion for truth for me and that is the word of
God; not wrongly divided Bibles; but the word of God which you cannot relate
to because you don't know what it is. It's not the Bible, although the Bible
contains some of the word of God. Actually, it makes reference to all of it;
but twists the word of God into the doctrines of men. I will be posting
something on that soon." [Now this is a telling paragraph from "Bible Bob."
Here he is clearly claiming that the Bible contains only SOME of the word of
God. As he has claimed in the past, the translations we have today have been
twisted to support trinitarian doctrine. He keeps making this claim from
time to time with no proof whatsoever. This reminds me a lot of KJV-Only
extremists.]

"Just because you are a false teacher does not mean that I can't learn from
you. False teachers show me what not to learn and reveal the secrets behind
their false doctrines; not knowing that they are doing so." [Another
self-descriptive paragraph from "Bible Bob." Through his attempt at slander,
he ends up accurately describing himself.]

"Carl, you are the one who has made himself unteachable. You have to
believe what your bosses tell you to believe; money and power is at stake.
I don't have to worry about that because my boss spent time on a stake."
[More slander from "Bible Bob." It's also interesting that "Bible Bob"
rejects the Bible's teaching that Jesus was crucified on the cross and
embraces the Jehovah's Witnesses' claims that Jesus was killed on a stake.
Although "Bible Bob" denies being a Jehovah's Witness, he has supported just
about every false teaching a JW believes.]

"You must do what you man gods tell you to do because that is the Third
Reich way." [Here's "Bible Bob" commits more ad hominem falsely accusing me
of not only worshiping "man gods" but also throws in a Nazi reference for
added emphasis. Does this give evidence of the "holy spirit" {as "Bible Bob"
references with lower case} within him? Perhaps if what the "holy spirit" he
has is not THE Holy Spirit of the Bible. Furthermore, does "Bible Bob"'s
words here give evidence of the fruit of the Spirit? No reasonable person
can answer any other way than with a resounding "NO!"]

"You have exposed yourself as a fraud and an evil doer in this post and you
probably can't even see what you have done. That's really sad because you
are wasting what God could use." [Another self-descriptive paragraph from
"Bible Bob."]

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August 9, 2007

"Satan is spirit and Jesus is still human; the man Jesus Christ the last
Adam with a human body animated by spirit rather than soul." [Where is this
taught in the Bible?]

"Actually, the Holy Spirit is God (one of God's names or titles) and holy
spirit is the gift or agent of God. The problem is that Bible editors added
"the" and capitalized holy and spirit to make the gift God so much that the
average reader doesn't know what a passage is talking about unless he cross
checks it with the Greek. Here's the easy way to understand the difference.
The Holy Spirit has His habitation in the heavens while holy spirit is at
work on the earth in the ages. The Holy Spirit is God the Giver while holy
spirit is the gift. More often than not when the Bible says the Holy Ghost
(Spirit) (God the Giver) the Greek reads (holy spirit) the gift (52 of 79
times, that's 58%)." ["Bible Bob" is claiming two separate holy spirits? One
capitalized and one not? More ungodly heresy from "Bible Bob." He's correct
when he says the "Holy Spirit" is God but in other posts he denies this
being part of the Trinity. This is an example of "Bible Bob" making claims
with no proof and exhibits poor understanding of Koine Greek.]

"You need to fess up to being a man god worshipper and purveryor of false
doctrines, false charges, and hatred of others." [More slander and ad homine
from "Bible Bob."]

"By other cult groups you must be referring to the Baptists and Methodists
who believe in being saved by works." [There is no Baptist nor Methodist
denomination that believes in salvation by works.]

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August 5, 2007

"I may think you [Carl] are a coward; but I did not say you [Carl] were a
coward." [Actually he has. For example on July 28, 2007 "Bible Bob" wrote "I
suspect that Carl's post targets me in his usual cowardly way." June 24,
2007: "You [Carl] have been to cowardly to try." There are other earlier
examples as well. However this shows another "Bible Bob" lie.]

"Once again I catch you [Carl] in Third Reich mode imitating Adolph Hitler
and Joseph Goebell with your tell the big lie and stick to it behavior. You
[Carl] did not see any dishonesty from me. The "we" in your [Carl] comment
must refer to a demon accomplice because no person in their right mind could
have saw what you [Carl] saw." [Now "Bible Bob" equates me with Nazism and
demonism as well. This is a desparation tactic common with people who have
lost the point.]

"You religious money grabbers are too arrogant and prideful to take the time
to help the poor or the needy. You want them big tithes and offerings and
have to use philosophy and intellect to woo your potential victims." [Here
"Bible Bob" makes a false accusation that I am desirous of money.]

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A series showing intentional and admitted deception by "Bible Bob"

1) On July 27th, a Usenet poster using the nick 軒ndy posted an entry in
which he entitled "There is no Biblical fellowship with someone who worships
a different God"

2) On August 3, 2007 @ 12:13pm I reponded to 軒ndy's post. In it I cited
seven passages from the Bible that have the common theme teaching that
Christians are to stay away from heretics and their heresies (Romans 16:17;
1 Cor. 5:4-13; 2 Thess 3:6, 14; 2 Tim. 3:5; Titus 3:10,11; 2 John 10).

3) At 9:40pm of August 3, 2007 "Bible Bob" responded but rather than address
all seven passages, he prooftexts 1 Cor. 5:4-13 to try to support his
attempted slander in a thread he began also at 9:40pm which he entitled
"Carl McCaskey Accuses Glenn of Having Sex With His Own Mother" which in of
itself is a false accusation on "Bible Bob"'s part. So "Bible Bob"
intentionally left off the context. A clear dishonest tactic. Also at the
very beginning of this thread, "Bible Bob" intentionally misrepresents again
when he wrote, "But this time in his attempt to deceive readers in his post
titled "There is no Biblical fellowship with someone who worships a
different God", Carl went way to far." As documented, the thread entitled
"There is no Biblical fellowship with someone who worships a different God"
was begun by 軒ndy, not myself. This is clear yet "Bible Bob" attempts to
mislead.

4) On August 4, 2007 @ 1:03pm I point out "Bible Bob"'s error where he
wrongly attributes the origin of the thread "There is no Biblical fellowship
with someone who worships a different God" with the following: "If "Bible
Bob" wasn't so blinded with hatred he would have noticed the "Re:" in front
of the title indicating that I was responding to a thread started by someone
else."

5) However at 8:17pm of the same date, "Bible Bob" admits he recognized the
indicator but chose to ignore it. "I noticed the "Re" when I went to cut and
paste the subject into the post but chose not to use it." This shows "Bible
Bob" knew it was a thread started by someone else, admitted he did noticed
the "Re:" but chose to intentionally discard it. This shows clear motive to
deceive.

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July 14, 2007

"You [Carl] have miserably failed to provide any scriptural evidence that
proves the Bible teaches the doctrine of the Trinity. You [Carl] have
provided, however, evidence that proves you [Carl] are a pagan who worships
the god people. Simply put - you [Carl] are a polytheist." [Once again
"Bible Bob" lies since I have provided clear evidence that the Bible teaches
the doctrine of the Trinity so "Bible Bob" can only lie about it and attempt
to smear me by falsely accusing me of being a polytheist implying that
Trinitarians are polytheists which is intellecually dishonest.]

"Trinity doctrine is not found in the word of God. Trinitarians did falsify
passages in the versions to make it look like a trinity exists." ["Bible
Bob" still denies the Trinity and then attempts to falsely claim that
Trinitarians falsified scripture to support it in a similar fashion as the
Watctower Bible And Tract Society did to promote their heretical agenda.
However Trinitarians did not do as "Bible Bob" asserts. He provides no
evidence, just a smear attempt with no substantiation.]

In the same post I correctly say the following, "The Bible also includes
many verses that show that Jesus is also God, and that the Holy Ghost is
also God."

"BibleBob" responds with "No it does not. The Englist [sic] versions have
been infused with fallacies of accent to mislead people into believing
trinitarian doctrine." [Another false accusation with no evidence. "Bible
Bob" creates this out of whole cloth.]

How "BibleBob" responds with a quote from the New King James Version:

"Maybe if you stopped using a kiddie Bible"

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July 12, 2007

"Carl is not man (or Christian enough) enough to answer me directly because
he knows he would be proven wrong" [Actually "Bible Bob" is trying and has
been trying to lure me into vain arguments through provocative means. Since
Titus 3:9-11 teaches that I should not bother with heretics like "Bible Bob"
I'm not biting.]

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July 11, 2007

"It was trinitarians who came up with tdhe [sic] Giver and the gift
doctrine."

"Bible Bob"'s opinion of John Wesley:

"The late Mr Wesley sure had a problem with his scruples."

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July 10, 2007

"What a pathetic bunch of lies! Is this guy nuts? You are nuts for posting
such trash." [This in response to a post where I presented a sermon by a
Baptist minister. "Bible Bob" lacks the self-control and gentleness called
for by the Bible which he claims to follow.]

July 9, 2007

"It is Trinitarians that think Jesus is an angel." {Again "Bible Bob"
perpetuates this intentional misrepresentation.]

July 8, 2007

"There is no difference between a Baptist and a Jehovah's Witness"

"You and Carl are both false teachers as the false doctrines you preach
prove. You and Carl attempt to deceive by saying that what I teach is false
doctrine. But neither of you has substantiated from the word of God that
the doctrine I teach is false. The best you can come up with is the
argument "false teacher John MacArthur (or some other well known false
teacher from your cult) says such and such is true doctrine and since you
(BB) disagree with my (JW) man-god, you are a false teacher". You cannot
document from the word of God that what I teach is false. You rely on the
words of false teachers that you parrot for your authority." [What are the
"false doctrines" "Bible Bob" claims I teach? Salvation by the Grace of God
through faith in Jesus Christ. That Jesus Christ is God manifest in flesh.
That the Trinity is a Biblically sound doctrine. That Jesus always has been
and was not a created being. Please note the lack of the fruit of the Spirit
in the words of "Bible Bob" here. His insults and false accusations. I can
only speak for myself. I have substantiated all the doctrines I mentioned
earlier from the Word of God but "Bible Bob" summarily dismissed them all
with shoddy self-taught (as he has freely admitted) scholarship. A Google
search in Usenet groups will attest to this. As I rapidly discovered, "Bible
Bob" then began accusing me of having no formal Biblical training and not
knowing what I was talking about so I decided to present articles and
sermons from well-established Christian theologians and scholars who
presented the same orthodoxy that I had which effectively refuted "Bible
Bob." And as you can see, rather than rebut what those people had written,
"Bible Bob" declares that I am "worshipping men" and that they are my "man
gods." This is yet another example of how "Bible Bob" uses smear tactics
when his heresies have been thoroughly and effectively refuted.]

"both of you say I teach false doctrine but never state what the doctrine is
that I teach" [Again, this is yet a blatant lie. His denial of the Trinity,
his denial of the deity of Jesus, his unBiblical method of salvation, his
claim that Jesus was crucified on a stake and not the cross (a Jehovah's
Witness false doctrine as well) and merely some of the false doctrines that
I and several others have stated. This is yet another example of the denial
technique "Bible Bob" routinely utilizes. I and many others have addressed
specific false doctrines of "Bible Bob"'s yet "Bible Bob" denies anyone has.
This is "Bible Bob" being intentionally being obtuse and dishonest.]

"You [Carl] promote hatred against the brethren in your antidenominational
posts." [I have never done any such thing. This is a "Bible Bob" smear
attempt.]

"You [Carl] quote and promote your man gods." [I have never done any such
thing. This is a "Bible Bob" smear attempt.]

"It does not matter what you say Carl." [Now "Bible Bob" finally admits that
he rejects anything and everything I present.]

"Flee spiritual fornication which is idolatry." [Another false accusation
from "Bible Bob." Here he accuses me of "spiritual fornication" without
evidence and without merit.]

"Stop worshipping yourself and your men gods and their doctrines and worship
the one true God and follow His Son Jesus Christ." [Here "Bible Bob" accuses
me of worshipping myself and "men gods" when I have done neither.
Furthermore he implies that I haven't been worshipping God when I have. Also
the wording of his accusation follows "Bible Bob"'s denial of the deity of
Jesus Christ which is Biblical doctrine.]

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July 7, 2007

"Trinitarians do teach that Jesus was an angel; so stop lying about it."
[This lie of "Bible Bob"'s is so patently absurd it becomes almost
laughable. It merely further proves "Bible Bob"'s intellectual dishonesty.]

"True I am intelligent enough to reject the false doctrines of the trinity."
["Bible Bob" admits to heresy.]

"I am the guy that has been proving to you and others that Jesus Christ did
not exist until he was born except in the foreknowledge of God." ["Bible
Bob" admits that he denies Jesus Christ's infinite nature. Another heretical
stance.]

"God says that I am right and that you are wrong." ["Bible Bob" claiming
divine knowledge? A new revelation? Jehovah God does not tell a heretic like
"Bible Bob" that he is right when "Bible Bob" denies Biblical truth.]

"I am the Christian and you are the pretender." ["Bible Bob" now arrogantly
claims to know who is Christian and who isn't although "Bible Bob" has been
shown by his own words to teach heresy. Furthermore note how "Bible Bob"
refers to himself as "the Christian" not "a Christian" but "THE Christian"
as if he is the only one.]

"You [Carl] are the one that manifests the most contempt for others and the
contempt and hatred that you [Carl] manifest in your posts makes your points
moot." [I have contempt for the lies and heresies from false teachers like,
and including, "Bible Bob" but I have presented nor have hatred towards
them. I feel pity for them. This is another "Bible Bob" lie.]

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On July 1, 2007 I posted the following:

"Why is it that so many people on Usenet, believers and unbelievers alike,
allege that you are arrogant and self centered and dishonest? Is it because
there is a conspiracy to destroy you and your ministry? Is it because
everybody is out to get you? Or is it because both believers and
unbelievers "see" arrogance and self centeredness and dishonesty in what you
say and do?"

A certain individual wrote this on Usenet in accusation of another. It's
amazing that is applied perfectly to himself. Can you guess who originally
wrote the words above?

On July 2, 2007 "Bible Bob" posted:

"Nope. Not me."

The words actually did come from "Bible Bob" in his attempt to smear someone
else. However when you read the comments:

"Why is it that so many people on Usenet, believers and unbelievers alike,
allege that you are arrogant and self centered and dishonest? Is it because
there is a conspiracy to destroy you and your ministry? Is it because
everybody is out to get you? Or is it because both believers and
unbelievers "see" arrogance and self centeredness and

dishonesty in what you say and do?"

it is strikingly apt that it applies so strongly TO "Bible Bob" as evidenced
by his posts. And so many people, myself included, see so much arrogance,
self-centeredness and dishonesty in what "Bible Bob" says and does on
Usenet.

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July 1, 2007

"If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge, John
Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all hyperreligious
fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of God posts under the
pretense of defending right docrines which are really false doctrines."

"Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult attack
the Jewhovah's Witness cult?" ["Bible Bob" refers to Christian denominations
{Methodists and Baptists} as cults.]

"What kind of fruit are they producing by attacking the children of God?"
[NOTE: Here "Bible Bob" refers to Jehovah's Witnesses as "children of God"
yet earlier in the same post he calls them a "cult."]

"Of late I have been reading some of Carl's posts by some of his man gods."
[NOTE: "man gods"? "Bible Bob" false accuses me of worshipping man.]

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June 30, 2007

"You [Carl] make allegations, but are unable to provide the evidence to
support those allegations." [Actually I did and have provided specific proof
in the form of prior posts from "Bible Bob" and when confronted with them,
he either denied them or ignored them. So chalk this up as another lie of
"Bible Bob"'s.]

"You [Carl] are a carnal follower of Christ." [A slanderous falsehood on
"Bible Bob"'s part and one that shows his lack of the fruit of the Spirit
within him.]

"To date you [Carl] have not been able to find once false doctrine taught by
me ["Bible Bob"] that you can prove to be false." [Actually "Bible Bob" has
been proven to be teaching falsely on several items including, but not
limited to, the Trinity (which "Bible Bob" denies even though it is taught
in the Bible), the deity of Christ (which "Bible Bob" denies even though it
is taught in the Bible), the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ (which
"Bible Bob" denies even though it is taught in the Bible), the infinite
nature of Jesus Christ (which "Bible Bob" denies even though it is taught in
the Bible), and others. And I am not the only Christian who has proven
"Bible Bob" to be wrong and teaching falsely.]

"You would be better off reading and following my teachings than the
teachings of the sects because mine are more accurate." [Ahhh...the "Church
Of Bible Bob" is, according to "Bible Bob" more accurate than denominations
that adhere to Biblical orthodoxy. No thanks. Heretics like "Bible Bob" tend
to exhibit such arrogant behavior.]

"Jesus was crucified on a stake" [This is an old WTBTS false teaching that
has been extensively refuted by Biblical evidence as well as archaeological,
historical and medical evidence yet here's "Bible Bob" proclaiming this
tired old heresy.]

"Over half of your Baptist doctrines came from the Roman Catholic Church."
[An unfounded and historically false statement from "Bible Bob."]

"Everyone knows that Jesus Christ was not crucified on a cross and everyone
knows that church steeples are phallic symbles and that church bells are
used to wake up the gods from sleep." ["Bible Bob" comes up with the most
ridiculous heresies.]

"Name the "Christians" that have found Bible Bob's teachings to be
unBiblical and then post one; just one, of those teachings that you say are
unBiblical." ["Bible Bob" made this demand while ignoring the numerous
Christian theologians I cited dating as far back at the early Church fathers
in the 1st century A.D. who taught the Trinity. He made this demand while
ignoring the numerous Christian theologians I cited dating as far back at
the early Church fathers in the 1st century A.D. who taught the deity of
Jesus Christ. He made this demand while ignoring the numerous theologians
who taught salvation by grace through faith and not by works. All three
doctrines denied by "Bible Bob."]

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June 26, 2007

"Yes you [Carl] do worship men as you posts prove." [Here "Bible Bob"
accuses me of worshipping men rather than God. This is a lie on "Bible
Bob"'s part.]

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June 13, 2007

"I ["Bible Bob"] have lots of religious education." [Doubtful. To this day
"Bible Bob" has presented no verifiable documentation of such "religious
education."]

June 28, 2007

"Can you [Carl] name one Christian that Bible Bob has attacked" [Myself for
one. But "Bible Bob" doesn't consider me a Christian since he arrogantly and
falsely labels me otherwise. However I don't have to prove myself to "Bible
Bob" and I know my faith is in Jesus Christ who is my Lord and Savior. I am
Christian and there's nothing "Bible Bob" nor anyone else can do about it.
However "Bible Bob" hates when he's proven wrong by Christians. Some other
better known Christians that "Bible Bob" has attacked: John Wesley - J.
Vernon McGee - David Jeremiah - Billy Graham - John MacArthur - Jerry
Falwell - . Some lesser known Christians that "Bible Bob" has attacked:
Kevin Hall - Randy Ray - David Brooks - and millions upon millions of
Methodists and Baptists for "Bible Bob" has deemed them all nonChristians
and cultists. This is the arrogant hatred "Bible Bob" exhibits as well as
his dishonesty.]

"Can you [Carl] provide evidence from the word of God that God has given you
authority to attack Christians who are members of the Jehovah's Witness
group that you do not know or who have not correponded with you?" [Please
note "Bible Bob" calls Methodists and Baptists cultists yet calls Jehovah's
Witnesses "Christians." This shows the level of dishonesty and deceit from
"Bible Bob" that can only be considered satanic in nature. Furthermore I
have not attacked Jehovah's Witnesses. This is yet another proved "Bible
Bob" lie. What I have done is shown on several occassions the heresies,
false prophecies and false doctrines of the Watchtower Bible And Tract
Society, the Jehovah's Witnesses' parent organization. The WTBTS has
deceived countless people during their existance. I have shared information
showing the WTBTS' deceit.]

"Carl, you are one who teaches salvation by works." [I have never taught
such a doctrine. "Bible Bob" lies.]

"You [Carl] are an arrogant man worshipping hater of the chidlren [sic] of
God." [More "Bible Bob" lies. I do not nor ever have worshipped man and do
not hate children of God. However as shown from his own words, "Bible Bob"
routinely calls "Christians" cultists and nonChristians "children of God."
This can only be taken as satanic deception on "Bible Bob"'s part.]

"We are justified by the faith of Jesus Christ; not our faith." [Another
heresy from "Bible Bob." He denies that we are saved by our faith in Jesus
Christ even though that's what the Bible, taken in totality, clearly
teaches. "Bible Bob" teaches that the faith OF Jesus Christ, whom "Bible
Bob" denies as being God and only a man CREATED by God, is what saves us.
That's not taught in the Bible but it is taught by the "Church of Bible Bob"
where heresies flourish. The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ was faithful
but "Bible Bob" twists it into something it's not.]

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June 11, 2007

"I do not respect your cowardly behavior of hiding behind the words of men
and elevating the words of men above the word of God." [I have never
elevated the words of men above the Word of God. This is a clear lie on
"Bible Bob"'s part and an attempt to slander me. What I have done is cite
various Christian theologians, ministers and other learned men of God in
refutation of "Bible Bob"'s heresies and in response, "Bible Bob" lies and
slanders. The Christian people I cited effectively and thoroughly refuted
"Bible Bob" time and time again using the Bible as the source. Therefore,
"Bible Bob" was refuted by the Word of God.]

"You [Carl] are a fake and a fraud offering for Scripture the words and
doctrines of men." [I have never attempted to offer the words and doctrines
of men as a substitute for Holy Scripture. This is another slanderous lie by
"Bible Bob" that shows the lack of the fruit of the Holy Spirit in his
heart.]

"I will not honor an honest attempt with sarcasm or criticism." [However
that's mostly what "Bible Bob" responds with: sarcasm and criticism. Another
"Bible Bob" lie.]

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June 2, 2007

"You [Carl] do NOT believe in the Trinity." ["Bible Bob" now tries to claim
I don't believe something even though I have publicly stated that I do and
even provided plenty of Biblical evidence. I even provided evidence as shown
by many Christian theologians.]

"You [Carl] cannot prove from the rightly divided word of God that a Trinity
exists because you do NOT know how to search, understand, and expound the
Scriptures." ["Bible Bob" makes this patently false accusation after I did
prove from the rightly divided Word of God that the (not "a") Trinity exists
and is taught in the Bible.]

"I have simply asked you to provide proof of the Trinity in YOUR own words
from the Scriptures. You [Carl] have not been able to so so." [Actually I
have on several occasions and a simple Google search in Usenet newsgroups
proves that but "Bible Bob" takes his routine tact of denial. "Bible Bob"
was and is unable to refute the Biblical evidence as presented by myself as
well as dozens of other Christians so "Bible Bob" both denies in a dishonest
manner as well as twists scripture using his pseudo-scholarship which also
has been shown to be lacking. But although his pseudo-scholarship is lacking
and has been shown as such, "Bible Bob" keeps denying that anyone has proven
the Trinity to be Biblically sound doctrine when the fact of the matter is
that many people have. But the eyes, ears and heart of the heretic (like
"Bible Bob") are closed to the truth of the Scriptures.]

"You [Carl] wouldn't make a good pimple on a disciples hindside." ["Bible
Bob" once again shows he is wont to throw out insults even though he claims
to be someone who knows Scripture better than anyone else. Interesting that
he regularly ignores what it teaches. This example of "Bible Bob" penchance
of insults shows the lack of gentleness, kindness, peace, self-control, etc.
that God instructs Christians to exhibit. Insults are not the fruit from a
good tree. "But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue
righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness." (1 Timothy
6:11)]

"Trinitarians edited the King James Version of the Bible." [Earlier in the
post this quote came from "Bible Bob" demands that I "prove your statements"
yet "Bible Bob" throws out this false statement as if it becomes true
because "Bible Bob" said so. He made this claim before and since always with
no substantiation even when pressed.]

"Trinitarians have to beleive the Trinity because it makes them money."
[Same post. Equally unfounded and ridiculous.]

"Carl, get your head out of your butt" [Same post. No gentleness as called
for by God.]

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June 1, 2007

Recently "Bible Bob" wrote the following concerning the Biblical doctrine of

the Holy Trinity:

BB> It is not mentioned in the Bible. Trinitarians have added words

BB> to the versions, mistranslated the versions, and twisted

BB> passages from the versions but have not been able to document

BB> a Trinity from the word of God.

[Please note "Bible Bob"'s accusations with no evidence.]

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February 22, 2007

"I'm not one of those drunks from the bar that you can lure out of the bar
and into the alley where you can gut them for a few bucks for your crack
habit." [This one wasn't aimed at me but it deserved to be included to
illustrate the insulting, vitriolic and contemptible nature of "Bible Bob."]

"Over the years I have repeatedly proven you to be a mental eunuch in the
fields of science, history, philosophy, politics, religion, and common
sense." [Same post. More bile. And an incredible condescending arrogance.]

"You are a mental midget in the arena of intellect and end up trodden under
my feet every time you enter the arena with me." [Same post. More grandiose
arrogance.]

"You ought to be ashamed of yourself mommies boy." [Same post. Interesting
lack of maturity coming from someone who brags of having such an intellect.
His words like these lacking intellect bely his claim of high intellect.]

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February 20, 2007

"I posted it to the groups that Steve Winter's posts to cause I wanted to."
["Bible Bob" objects when I post to multiple groups but justified
multiple-group postins with explanations like this one. "Bible Bob"'s
hypocrisy shows.]

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May 13, 2006

"I ["Bible Bob"] thought I ["Bible Bob"] was good at hyperbole" [When "Bible
Bob" is caught in a lie, he tends to claim he was using "hyperbole."]

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February 6, 2006

"I have never "claimed" to be a teacher. I demonstrate what I am by my
words and by my deeds. You can not find a post anywhere where I have
claimed to be anything. I do not believe in using titles and you know that.
I have never claimed to be a teacher on a newsgroup. I have and do teach;
but all believers are supposed to do that."

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August 31, 2005

"The only evidence of the trinity are the vain imaginations of men." ["Bible
Bob" ignores the Biblical evidence presented to him on numerous occasions.
To support his denials, he has to resort to very bad exegesis and
self-taught (as he freely admits) Greek which has been shown to be shoddy.
However when his errors are shown and corrected, "Bible Bob" resorts to ad
hominem attack and denials.]

"You censored my comments by snipping the relevant context. That is not
honest and leads one to believe that you have a controlling nature that
requires you to have your way regardless of whether you are right or wrong."
[This was not aimed at me but shows a huge amount of hypocrisy on "Bible
Bob"'s part because he has a long history of selectively editing others'
comments in his replies just as he is accusing another of doing. In fact, if
one does a Google search on Usenet of "Bible Bob"'s posts, one will discover
that "Bible Bob" has "a controlling nature that requires [Bible Bob] to have
[his] way regardless of whether [he is] right or wrong." And when "Bible
Bob" is shown to be wrong, he gets extremely selective in his editing.]

"First of all Paul was talking about the Jews who were peeping Toms; not
Christians." [This is "Bible Bob"'s response to Galatians 2:4. Peeping Toms?
I have never heard anyone other than "Bible Bob" claim that Galatians 2:4
("And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in
privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they
might bring us into bondage") refers to "peeping Toms." Maybe "Bible Bob"
also believes the passage refers to sado-masochism because it refers to
"bondage." Ridiculous. According to Strong's the Greek word used in the
passage "kataskopeo" (kat-as-kop-eh'-o) means to be a sentinel, i.e. to
inspect insidiously: and in the King James Bible is translated as "to spy
out." {Source: New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded
Greek-Hebrew Dictionary}]

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August 31, 2005

[An example of "Bible Bob"'s weak exegesis.]

This is NOT a Biblical assertion you are making. The prrof DOES need to

be asserted.

1 Peter 3:15

but in your hearts regard Christ the Lord as holy, always being

prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the

hope that is in you;

"Aren't we having fun. Same word "apologia;" and if you read the verse it is
talking about an "answer" to someone who asks a question. And the question
is about the hope that is in you; not whether the word of God is truth."
[Webster's Dictionary defines "apologia" {from when we get the word
"apologetics"} as "a defense especially of one's opinions, position, or
actions" -- Strong's Greek Dictionary defines it as an "answer (for self)"
The person was trying to point out to "Bible Bob" that apologetics includes
defending the truth of the Scriptures while "Bible Bob" took an opposing
view. The defenses of Christianity by the primitive fathers are called
apologies {Adam Clarke's Commentary on 1 Peter 3:15} and their defenses of
the Christian religion were examples of early Christian apologetics (see
Acts 22:1) therefore "Bible Bob" is offbase on this point in claiming that 1
Peter 3:15 is limited in scope as he asserts.]

"Are you saying that God should not be condoned because He is Polytheist?
Are you saying that Jesus Christ should not be condoned because he is
polytheist?" ["Bible Bob" claiming God is polytheistic? "Bible Bob" claiming
Jesus is polytheistic? For those who don't know polytheism is the belief in
or worship of more than one god. In this statement "Bible Bob" is claiming
Jehovah God and Jesus Christ both believe in, or maintain a plurality of
gods. This is so patently absurd and unBiblical as to completely make "Bible
Bob"'s positions to be highly suspect to any rational, reasonable
Christian.]

"The trinity is anti-Christian and pro-Satan. Well, isn't it? God says there
is only One True God and Satan says there are other One True God's." ["Bible
Bob" implies that Trinitarians believe that there are other gods when the
fact shows such an implication to be false. But "Bible Bob" routinely
intentionally misrepresents the beliefs of those who oppose his beliefs in
order to try to bolster his reputation and position. Unfortunately for
"Bible Bob" such intentional misrepresentations only prove a dishonest
nature on "Bible Bob"'s part.]

"You can not prove the trinity from the Word of God (or Bible if correctly
translated and read in context). Talk to your theologians, they will tell
you that I am right and you are wrong." [Same post. Many people have proven
the Trinity from the Word of God (correctly translated, taken in context AND
using the Bible in totality). Furthermore, thousands upon thousands of
Christian theologians over the centuries starting with the early Christian
church fathers who taught the Trinity and referenced the Trinity in their
writings as far back as the middle of the 1st century A.D. So the
overwhelming majority of Christian theologians {and the Bible} say "Bible
Bob" is wrong and the Trinity (and therefore Trinitarians) are right. But
"Bible Bob" will simply deny this {and has denied this} when the fact is
pointed out to him.]