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"Bush the War Criminal" |
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24 Nov 2006 08:01:11 PM |
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Religion gets ***** slapped |
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
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These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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24 Nov 2006 10:22:34 PM |
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"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
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These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Greywolf
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| User: "Bush the War Criminal" |
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| Title: Re: Religion gets ***** slapped |
25 Nov 2006 12:53:00 AM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
news:12mfh8gfnfe1hfe@corp.supernews.com...
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
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These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Sure as ***** ain't Jesus. Not that he's doing much anywhere else either.
Hunger, poverty, starvation, war, plague, famine, pestilence, tornadoes,
tsunamis... Sure is fucking off lately.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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25 Nov 2006 04:18:48 AM |
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <12mfh8gfnfe1hfe@corp.supernews.com>
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Greywolf
The Great A'Tuin.
(Did you get the book that I sent you?
I still heve yet to get a straight answer!
It's driving me MAD, I tell thee!)
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| User: "Eris" |
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24 Nov 2006 11:10:28 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Even the smallest sparrow.
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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25 Nov 2006 12:57:19 AM |
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"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h1kfm25gkcqrqmemct2g8kel42obongi10@4ax.com...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Even the smallest sparrow.
I'm curious. Did you see that little dead girl in the 'opening' photographs?
Did Allah/God do a decent enough job of looking out for her in your own
personal view?
Greywolf
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| User: "Eris" |
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25 Nov 2006 12:31:15 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:57:19 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h1kfm25gkcqrqmemct2g8kel42obongi10@4ax.com...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Even the smallest sparrow.
I'm curious. Did you see that little dead girl in the 'opening' photographs?
Did Allah/God do a decent enough job of looking out for her in your own
personal view?
Greywolf
I didn't look at the pictures, I was in Nam , Infantry, Mekong Delta,
1968-1969, have my own personal Kodak moments, cute eight year old boy
with a hand grenade.
Did not you notice the sarcasm in the smallest sparrow comment. Why
that ***** God was tending to the smallest sparrow, I was witnessing
one horrific event after another.
I didn't believe, but was so terrified I prayed, "This is Jesus, I am
either away from my throne or on another prayer, please leave prayer
request at the sound of the tone and I will get back with you."
It has been 38 years, I don't think he is getting back with me.
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| User: "stoney" |
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30 Nov 2006 08:33:59 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:31:15 -0500, Eris <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:57:19 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
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I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Even the smallest sparrow.
I'm curious. Did you see that little dead girl in the 'opening' photographs?
Did Allah/God do a decent enough job of looking out for her in your own
personal view?
Greywolf
I didn't look at the pictures, I was in Nam , Infantry, Mekong Delta,
1968-1969, have my own personal Kodak moments, cute eight year old boy
with a hand grenade.
[wince]
Did not you notice the sarcasm in the smallest sparrow comment. Why
that ***** God was tending to the smallest sparrow, I was witnessing
one horrific event after another.
I didn't believe, but was so terrified I prayed, "This is Jesus, I am
either away from my throne or on another prayer, please leave prayer
request at the sound of the tone and I will get back with you."
It has been 38 years, I don't think he is getting back with me.
"He's" been on the crapper for 2,000 years.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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01 Dec 2006 01:41:51 AM |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:33:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:31:15 -0500, Eris <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:57:19 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
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I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Even the smallest sparrow.
I'm curious. Did you see that little dead girl in the 'opening' photographs?
Did Allah/God do a decent enough job of looking out for her in your own
personal view?
Greywolf
I didn't look at the pictures, I was in Nam , Infantry, Mekong Delta,
1968-1969, have my own personal Kodak moments, cute eight year old boy
with a hand grenade.
[wince]
Did not you notice the sarcasm in the smallest sparrow comment. Why
that ***** God was tending to the smallest sparrow, I was witnessing
one horrific event after another.
I didn't believe, but was so terrified I prayed, "This is Jesus, I am
either away from my throne or on another prayer, please leave prayer
request at the sound of the tone and I will get back with you."
It has been 38 years, I don't think he is getting back with me.
"He's" been on the crapper for 2,000 years.
It's not his fault. He was forced into the wrong career by his
mother. He really wanted to play professional baseball.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 Dec 2006 12:35:17 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:41:51 +0100, thomas p <tonycro@mail.dk> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:33:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:31:15 -0500, Eris <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:57:19 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
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I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Even the smallest sparrow.
I'm curious. Did you see that little dead girl in the 'opening' photographs?
Did Allah/God do a decent enough job of looking out for her in your own
personal view?
Greywolf
I didn't look at the pictures, I was in Nam , Infantry, Mekong Delta,
1968-1969, have my own personal Kodak moments, cute eight year old boy
with a hand grenade.
[wince]
Did not you notice the sarcasm in the smallest sparrow comment. Why
that ***** God was tending to the smallest sparrow, I was witnessing
one horrific event after another.
I didn't believe, but was so terrified I prayed, "This is Jesus, I am
either away from my throne or on another prayer, please leave prayer
request at the sound of the tone and I will get back with you."
It has been 38 years, I don't think he is getting back with me.
"He's" been on the crapper for 2,000 years.
It's not his fault. He was forced into the wrong career by his
mother. He really wanted to play professional baseball.
For the 'Spacely Sprockets'
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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04 Dec 2006 01:07:21 AM |
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On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:35:17 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:41:51 +0100, thomas p <tonycro@mail.dk> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:33:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:31:15 -0500, Eris <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:57:19 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
[]
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Even the smallest sparrow.
I'm curious. Did you see that little dead girl in the 'opening' photographs?
Did Allah/God do a decent enough job of looking out for her in your own
personal view?
Greywolf
I didn't look at the pictures, I was in Nam , Infantry, Mekong Delta,
1968-1969, have my own personal Kodak moments, cute eight year old boy
with a hand grenade.
[wince]
Did not you notice the sarcasm in the smallest sparrow comment. Why
that ***** God was tending to the smallest sparrow, I was witnessing
one horrific event after another.
I didn't believe, but was so terrified I prayed, "This is Jesus, I am
either away from my throne or on another prayer, please leave prayer
request at the sound of the tone and I will get back with you."
It has been 38 years, I don't think he is getting back with me.
"He's" been on the crapper for 2,000 years.
It's not his fault. He was forced into the wrong career by his
mother. He really wanted to play professional baseball.
For the 'Spacely Sprockets'
He would have been a great player being able to play all positions
simultaneously (for both sides).
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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25 Nov 2006 01:13:38 AM |
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"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h1kfm25gkcqrqmemct2g8kel42obongi10@4ax.com...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Even the smallest sparrow.
The tiniest 'AIDS' virus too?
Greywolf
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24 Nov 2006 10:56:59 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, in alt.atheism
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in
<12mfh8gfnfe1hfe@corp.supernews.com>:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Everyone agrees that God is Allah, that is the God of Abraham. They just
disagree a bit about His nature.
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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24 Nov 2006 11:23:13 PM |
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
news:p7jfm2pgcatt1ehhtsc47ell6bi0nnej7f@4ax.com...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, in alt.atheism
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in
<12mfh8gfnfe1hfe@corp.supernews.com>:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Everyone agrees that God is Allah, that is the God of Abraham. They just
disagree a bit about His nature.
Ah, whatever one wants to call that imaginary creature, don't they seem to
detect a slight bit of 'doing-nothingness' on the part of their uncaring --
'because he's imaginary' -- deity?
At what point does the 'believer' say to him or herself that their 'faith'
in something that *obviously* doesn't give a 'hoot' about them is mindless?
Do you want to see more pictures of dead children that Allah/God shows he
cares nothing about? Will that convince you that Allah/God isn't 'real'? Or
have you already decided that no matter *what* sort of evidence is presented
to you -- even if, hypothetically speaking, it is absolutely the *truth* --
is not going to change your mind; that you are just going to ignore that
'truth' and continue to believe what you *want* to believe?
What is 'real' to you and what is not?
Greywolf
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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25 Nov 2006 03:17:24 PM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
news:12mfkq6sf1pnm94@corp.supernews.com...
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
news:p7jfm2pgcatt1ehhtsc47ell6bi0nnej7f@4ax.com...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, in alt.atheism
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in
<12mfh8gfnfe1hfe@corp.supernews.com>:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks
over
and after these people?
Everyone agrees that God is Allah, that is the God of Abraham. They just
disagree a bit about His nature.
Ah, whatever one wants to call that imaginary creature, don't they seem to
detect a slight bit of 'doing-nothingness' on the part of their
uncaring -- 'because he's imaginary' -- deity?
Allah ain't a "creature" and yes most beliefs are "imaginary" including
our belief and faith we have in others. Do you really want the rest of the
world to be as cynical as you are, having no beliefs nor faith?
At what point does the 'believer' say to him or herself that their 'faith'
in something that *obviously* doesn't give a 'hoot' about them is
mindless? Do you want to see more pictures of dead children that Allah/God
shows he cares nothing about? Will that convince you that Allah/God isn't
'real'? Or have you already decided that no matter *what* sort of evidence
is presented to you -- even if, hypothetically speaking, it is absolutely
the *truth* -- is not going to change your mind; that you are just going
to ignore that 'truth' and continue to believe what you *want* to believe?
What is 'real' to you and what is not?
Greywolf
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| User: "ShellStockTrader" |
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27 Nov 2006 11:14:41 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:4568d4b8$0$21089$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
news:12mfkq6sf1pnm94@corp.supernews.com...
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
news:p7jfm2pgcatt1ehhtsc47ell6bi0nnej7f@4ax.com...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, in alt.atheism
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in
<12mfh8gfnfe1hfe@corp.supernews.com>:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of
Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks
over
and after these people?
Everyone agrees that God is Allah, that is the God of Abraham. They just
disagree a bit about His nature.
Ah, whatever one wants to call that imaginary creature, don't they seem
to detect a slight bit of 'doing-nothingness' on the part of their
uncaring -- 'because he's imaginary' -- deity?
Allah ain't a "creature" and yes most beliefs are "imaginary" including
our belief and faith we have in others. Do you really want the rest of the
world to be as cynical as you are, having no beliefs nor faith?
YES! End the hate, wars, murders, discrimination! YES!
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27 Nov 2006 11:46:08 AM |
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On 2006-11-27 17:14:41 +0000, "ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com> said:
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, in alt.atheism
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in
<12mfh8gfnfe1hfe@corp.supernews.com>:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
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http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Everyone agrees that God is Allah, that is the God of Abraham. They just
disagree a bit about His nature.
Ah, whatever one wants to call that imaginary creature, don't they seem
to detect a slight bit of 'doing-nothingness' on the part of their
uncaring -- 'because he's imaginary' -- deity?
Allah ain't a "creature" and yes most beliefs are "imaginary" including
our belief and faith we have in others. Do you really want the rest of
the world to be as cynical as you are, having no beliefs nor faith?
YES! End the hate, wars, murders, discrimination! YES!
Except, of course, most hatred, wars, murders and forms of
discrimination have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most have
secular causes. Sometimes they occur to promote atheism.
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28 Nov 2006 10:34:03 AM |
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"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
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On 2006-11-27 17:14:41 +0000, "ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com>
said:
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:4568d4b8$0$21089$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, in alt.atheism
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in
<12mfh8gfnfe1hfe@corp.supernews.com>:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of
Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured,
maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent
reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks
over
and after these people?
Everyone agrees that God is Allah, that is the God of Abraham. They
just
disagree a bit about His nature.
Ah, whatever one wants to call that imaginary creature, don't they seem
to detect a slight bit of 'doing-nothingness' on the part of their
uncaring -- 'because he's imaginary' -- deity?
Allah ain't a "creature" and yes most beliefs are "imaginary" including
our belief and faith we have in others. Do you really want the rest of
the world to be as cynical as you are, having no beliefs nor faith?
YES! End the hate, wars, murders, discrimination! YES!
Except, of course, most hatred, wars, murders and forms of discrimination
have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most have secular causes.
Sometimes they occur to promote atheism.
Such as..?
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29 Nov 2006 06:09:26 PM |
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"ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
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On 2006-11-27 17:14:41 +0000, "ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com>
said:
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:4568d4b8$0$21089$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
Allah ain't a "creature" and yes most beliefs are "imaginary" including
our belief and faith we have in others. Do you really want the rest of
the world to be as cynical as you are, having no beliefs nor faith?
YES! End the hate, wars, murders, discrimination! YES!
Except, of course, most hatred, wars, murders and forms of discrimination
have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most have secular causes.
Sometimes they occur to promote atheism.
Such as..?
Short memory, or failed your history courses? Communism was the
flowering of atheist secular humanism, and it left millions dead. See below
Pastor Frank
LEST WE FORGET: Atheists mass murdered over 100 million people
in the last 83 years of the 20th century alone? You can find a
most illuminating and interesting summary of historical mass murder
at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/.
The combined killings done by Jews, Christians, and Moslems
throughout history don't compare with the slaughter perpetrated
by atheists in a single century.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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30 Nov 2006 08:54:53 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in
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"ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
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On 2006-11-27 17:14:41 +0000, "ShellStockTrader"
<spamhere@nospam.com> said:
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:4568d4b8$0$21089$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
Allah ain't a "creature" and yes most beliefs are "imaginary"
including our belief and faith we have in others. Do you really
want the rest of the world to be as cynical as you are, having no
beliefs nor faith?
YES! End the hate, wars, murders, discrimination! YES!
Except, of course, most hatred, wars, murders and forms of
discrimination have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most
have secular causes. Sometimes they occur to promote atheism.
Such as..?
Short memory, or failed your history courses? Communism was the
flowering of atheist secular humanism, and it left millions dead. See
below
Ahhhh ......... Frank ........ still not playing with a full deck, I see.
Though Communists MAY have been athiests (there were still churches
operating in Russia throught the communist period).
Atheism is no more represented by communism than dog catching!
Does your "gawd" approve of your blatant, ignorant and conscious lying?
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30 Nov 2006 12:19:35 PM |
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On 2006-11-30 14:54:53 +0000, "..andnothingbut" <thetruth@xohelpme..> said:
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in
news:456e8bfc$0$714$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
"ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:TxZah.2940$YX1.210@newsfe23.lga...
"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
news:2006112717460816807-thecroft@macunlimitednet...
On 2006-11-27 17:14:41 +0000, "ShellStockTrader"
<spamhere@nospam.com> said:
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:4568d4b8$0$21089$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
Allah ain't a "creature" and yes most beliefs are "imaginary"
including our belief and faith we have in others. Do you really
want the rest of the world to be as cynical as you are, having no
beliefs nor faith?
YES! End the hate, wars, murders, discrimination! YES!
Except, of course, most hatred, wars, murders and forms of
discrimination have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most
have secular causes. Sometimes they occur to promote atheism.
Such as..?
Short memory, or failed your history courses? Communism was the
flowering of atheist secular humanism, and it left millions dead. See
below
Ahhhh ......... Frank ........ still not playing with a full deck, I see.
Though Communists MAY have been athiests (there were still churches
operating in Russia throught the communist period).
Atheism is no more represented by communism than dog catching!
Does your "gawd" approve of your blatant, ignorant and conscious lying?
That's blatant special pleading. One can equally (and as correctly)
argue that Christianity is not represented by the Inquisition or the
Crusades or any other act of hate you care to mention. The same can
equally (and as correctly) be said of any other belief system.
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30 Nov 2006 11:42:03 PM |
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Andrew <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in
news:2006113018193575249-thecroft@macunlimitednet:
On 2006-11-30 14:54:53 +0000, "..andnothingbut" <thetruth@xohelpme..>
said:
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in
news:456e8bfc$0$714$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
"ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:TxZah.2940$YX1.210@newsfe23.lga...
"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
news:2006112717460816807-thecroft@macunlimitednet...
On 2006-11-27 17:14:41 +0000, "ShellStockTrader"
<spamhere@nospam.com> said:
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:4568d4b8$0$21089$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
Allah ain't a "creature" and yes most beliefs are "imaginary"
including our belief and faith we have in others. Do you really
want the rest of the world to be as cynical as you are, having
no beliefs nor faith?
YES! End the hate, wars, murders, discrimination! YES!
Except, of course, most hatred, wars, murders and forms of
discrimination have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most
have secular causes. Sometimes they occur to promote atheism.
Such as..?
Short memory, or failed your history courses? Communism was the
flowering of atheist secular humanism, and it left millions dead.
See below
Ahhhh ......... Frank ........ still not playing with a full deck, I
see. Though Communists MAY have been athiests (there were still
churches operating in Russia throught the communist period).
Atheism is no more represented by communism than dog catching!
Does your "gawd" approve of your blatant, ignorant and conscious
lying?
That's blatant special pleading. One can equally (and as correctly)
argue that Christianity is not represented by the Inquisition or the
Crusades or any other act of hate you care to mention. The same can
equally (and as correctly) be said of any other belief system.
One can argue it, but one would lose that argument.
The things done under the name of a religion indicate the corruption, or
at least the corruptability, of that religion. The only way out of that
is to use the shell game name of "True Christians" (TM).
The Crusades were about religion;
The inquisition was about relgion.
When the "christians" gained the added power of the Roman politicians,
about 300 AD, and started torturing and murdering those who previously
demonized them - THAT was ALL about religion.
Communism did NOTHING for the sake of atheism.
Evil communists did all their dastardly deeds for egonmaniacal
(social/political) reasons - the lust for power, and the distrust of
anayone who stood against them.
Stalin was, admittedly, an atheist - but his actions were for and about
gaining power .....nothing more!
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30 Nov 2006 08:55:15 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:19:35 +0000, while bungee jumping,
Andrew <thecroft@macunlimited.net> shouted thusly:
Does your "gawd" approve of your blatant, ignorant and conscious lying?
That's blatant special pleading. One can equally (and as correctly)
argue that Christianity is not represented by the Inquisition or the
Crusades or any other act of hate you care to mention. The same can
equally (and as correctly) be said of any other belief system.
But atheism is about peace and love, even though atheist
nations are responsible for more death than all religious
governments combined. :)
--
Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"
<((>< <((>< <((><
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
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30 Nov 2006 11:44:54 PM |
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Azaliah <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:csgvm2tvo1lo4cc75pgaoiul3dm1jnkjt5@4ax.com:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:19:35 +0000, while bungee jumping,
Andrew <thecroft@macunlimited.net> shouted thusly:
Does your "gawd" approve of your blatant, ignorant and conscious lying?
That's blatant special pleading. One can equally (and as correctly)
argue that Christianity is not represented by the Inquisition or the
Crusades or any other act of hate you care to mention. The same can
equally (and as correctly) be said of any other belief system.
But atheism is about peace and love, even though atheist
nations are responsible for more death than all religious
governments combined. :)
Atheism is abouty the lack of belief in any gods. That's all.
Goverments and people are resonsible for those deaths, not the "non" belief
known as atheism.
There has never been a "battle cry" "For Atheism", but there have been many
"for god".
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29 Nov 2006 10:41:14 AM |
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On 2006-11-28 16:34:03 +0000, "ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com> said:
"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
news:2006112717460816807-thecroft@macunlimitednet...
On 2006-11-27 17:14:41 +0000, "ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com> said:
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:4568d4b8$0$21089$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:22:34 -0600, in alt.atheism
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in
<12mfh8gfnfe1hfe@corp.supernews.com>:
"Bush the War Criminal" <no@none.com> wrote in message
news:45679713$1$21180$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/
--
These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
I forget. Is it 'God' or 'Allah' that is 'merciful', loves, and looks over
and after these people?
Everyone agrees that God is Allah, that is the God of Abraham. They just
disagree a bit about His nature.
Ah, whatever one wants to call that imaginary creature, don't they seem
to detect a slight bit of 'doing-nothingness' on the part of their
uncaring -- 'because he's imaginary' -- deity?
Allah ain't a "creature" and yes most beliefs are "imaginary" including
our belief and faith we have in others. Do you really want the rest of
the world to be as cynical as you are, having no beliefs nor faith?
YES! End the hate, wars, murders, discrimination! YES!
Except, of course, most hatred, wars, murders and forms of
discrimination have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most have
secular causes. Sometimes they occur to promote atheism.
Such as..?
Such as the suppression of religion during the French Terror. Such as
the Stalinist purges of religion. Such as the Maoist purges of
religion. And these are just the ones that occurred to promote atheism.
The secular causes for war include national pride, greed for
land/power, control over mineral resources, lebensraum and the list
goes on.
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29 Nov 2006 10:54:30 PM |
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Andrew skrev:
On 2006-11-28 16:34:03 +0000, "ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com> said:
"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
news:2006112717460816807-thecroft@macunlimitednet...
On 2006-11-27 17:14:41 +0000, "ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com> said:
snip
Except, of course, most hatred, wars, murders and forms of
discrimination have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most have
secular causes. Sometimes they occur to promote atheism.
Such as..?
Such as the suppression of religion during the French Terror. Such as
the Stalinist purges of religion. Such as the Maoist purges of
religion. And these are just the ones that occurred to promote atheism.
The secular causes for war include national pride, greed for
land/power, control over mineral resources, lebensraum and the list
goes on.
And none of them were motivated by atheism or to promote atheism nor
could they be.
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30 Nov 2006 05:39:09 AM |
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"thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:1164862470.898633.218070@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Andrew skrev:
On 2006-11-28 16:34:03 +0000, "ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com>
said:
"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
news:2006112717460816807-thecroft@macunlimitednet...
On 2006-11-27 17:14:41 +0000, "ShellStockTrader" <spamhere@nospam.com>
said:
snip
Except, of course, most hatred, wars, murders and forms of
discrimination have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most have
secular causes. Sometimes they occur to promote atheism.
Such as..?
Such as the suppression of religion during the French Terror. Such as
the Stalinist purges of religion. Such as the Maoist purges of
religion. And these are just the ones that occurred to promote atheism.
The secular causes for war include national pride, greed for
land/power, control over mineral resources, lebensraum and the list
goes on.
And none of them were motivated by atheism or to promote atheism nor
could they be.
I see! No atrocities are initiated by atheists, only by religionists. Is
that one of the tenets of your atheist disbelief system?
Pastor Frank
LEST WE FORGET: Atheists mass murdered over 100 million people
in the last 83 years of the 20th century alone? You can find a
most illuminating and interesting summary of historical mass murder
at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/.
The combined killings done by Jews, Christians, and Moslems
throughout history don't compare with the slaughter perpetrated
by atheists in a single century.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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30 Nov 2006 11:42:44 PM |
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Pastor Frank <PF@christfirst.com> wrote:
And none of them were motivated by atheism or to promote atheism nor
could they be.
I see! No atrocities are initiated by atheists, only by religionists. Is
that one of the tenets of your atheist disbelief system?
He didn't say no atrocities are initiated by atheists, only that those
atrocities were not motivated by atheism. Are you really so impaired
that you can't read a simple sentence?
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01 Dec 2006 08:57:42 AM |
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"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank <PF@christfirst.com> wrote:
And none of them were motivated by atheism or to promote atheism nor
could they be.
I see! No atrocities are initiated by atheists, only by religionists.
Is
that one of the tenets of your atheist disbelief system?
He didn't say no atrocities are initiated by atheists, only that those
atrocities were not motivated by atheism. Are you really so impaired
that you can't read a simple sentence?
I see. None of the religionists that were severly persecuted, including
present-day Chinese persecution of religionists are motivated by
state-sponsored atheism. They just do it for the heck of it, not because
those persecuted are religionist in opposition to state-sponsored atheism.
"impaired" indeed? See below the sorry record of state-sponsored atheism.
Pastor Frank
Preamble to: THE FRUITS OF MILITANT ATHEISM in the new USSR
By Brian Moynahan/The Faith: A History of Christianity/Doubleday,
NY/2002/pp. 670-674.
The unenlightened ego, with its drive to power and social control,
has been problematic both inside and outside of religion. The
preceding examples show the militant atheist ego at its murderous
worst. They also reveal that religionists are not the only people who
cower in the herd, as is shown by the Stalinists' pathetic recourse to
'atheist churches' such as the LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS
and the Groups of THE GODLESS YOUTH, complete with 'hymns.'
= = = = = = = = = = = == = = == = = = = = = = == === = == =
A decree in January 1918... banned religious teaching in all
schools, colleges, and universities. All church buildings were taken
by the state... Church and monastic land was nationalized. No
compensation was offered for confiscated assets... Under the new
constitution, the clergy - together with capitalists, criminals, and
imbeciles - were deprived of the right to vote or hold state offices.
In practice this denied the clergy the right to food rations and their
children to education... the Orthodox Church was stripped of its legal
privileges, its land, and its source of income...
Calculated persecution returned after the Bolshevik victory in
1921. Lenin sanctioned terror as a form of pesticide to be used on
people whom he dehumanized as "harmful insects...scoundrel
fleas...bedbugs"... Émigrés estimated that 1200 priests and 28
bishops had been killed by 1923, and thousands of others, with monks
and nuns, were deported.
On Easter Day, 1925, the foundation congress of THE LEAGUE OF THE
MILITANT GODLESS was held. Its duty was to eradicate religion through
propaganda, pressure, and ridicule...
The method that Stalin used to force the peasantry onto collective
farms was terror-famine, and the result was a holocaust. Boris
Pasternak, who made a trip to gather material on collectivization,
found himself dumb with horror. "What I saw could not be expressed in
words... There was such inhuman, unimaginable misery, such a terrible
disaster, that it began to seem almost abstract, it would not fit
within the bounds of consciousness." Grain was confiscated from
starving families to gain hard currency for Stalin's industrialization
program... It is probable that fourteen million peasants died...
Communist activists led the grain searches, shot hoarders, and
herded families onto deportation transports as a matter of dogma; they
were pitiless, for dogma demanded "no concessions to
rightist-deviationist attitudes" and "no pacifism."...
Terror, and scientific atheism, was also applied to the Church.
Stalin introduced a Law of religious Associations in 1929 that banned
churches from all work with children and young people. Churches were
not allowed to organize reading rooms, libraries, excursions,
children's playgrounds, sewing groups, or bible readings; they could
not sponsor sanatoria or medical care; their priests were forbidden to
take part in any activity outside the immediate neighbourhood of the
"prayer building," the new name for "church." An attempt was made to
extinguish religion as a whole. The fury fell most harshly on the
Orthodox clergy, but thousands of other Christian priests, Baptists,
Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics,and mullahs and rabbis...were also
persecuted... some were shot, though most of those arrested suffered a
lingering death in the work camps of Siberia and the Arctic. Others
lived on the run...
Membership in THE LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS reached five
million by 1935. Children between eight and fourteen were enrolled in
GROUPS OF GODLESS YOUTH before graduating to Komsomol, the League of
Communist Youth. Prizes were offered for the best "godless hymns" and
to children who denounced their parents for voicing anti-Party
sentiments... Only one in forty churches survived; the others were
smashed to rubble or turned into warehouses, offices, and museums.
The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Moscow was destroyed with
dynamite, although care was taken to do so in the dead of night. A
Palace of Soviets topped by a huge statue of Lenin was to be built in
its place, but the site had weak foundations and it was used for a
giant open-air swimming pool instead. No churches or meeting places
were permitted in the new industrial cities...
In statistical terms the Godless looked to have won. There were
163 Orthodox bishops in 1914, and by 1939 only four survived in
freedom; of the old body of clergy 51,105 clergy, the number still in
their parishes was in the hundreds... "Religion is like a nail,"
Yaroslavsky wearily admitted. "The harder you strike it, the deeper
it goes."
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LEST WE FORGET: Atheists mass murdered over 100 million people
in the last 83 years of the 20th century alone? You can find a
most illuminating and interesting summary of historical mass murder
at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/.
The combined killings done by Jews, Christians, and Moslems
throughout history don't compare with the slaughter perpetrated
by atheists in a single century.
--
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01 Dec 2006 08:59:12 AM |
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"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hpmwqt.1wjdejaye6upfN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
Pastor Frank <PF@christfirst.com> wrote:
And none of them were motivated by atheism or to promote atheism nor
could they be.
I see! No atrocities are initiated by atheists, only by religionists.
Is
that one of the tenets of your atheist disbelief system?
He didn't say no atrocities are initiated by atheists, only that those
atrocities were not motivated by atheism. Are you really so impaired
that you can't read a simple sentence?
Read below the sorry record of state-sponsored atheism.
Pastor Frank
Preamble to: THE FRUITS OF MILITANT ATHEISM in the new USSR
By Brian Moynahan/The Faith: A History of Christianity/Doubleday,
NY/2002/pp. 670-674.
The unenlightened ego, with its drive to power and social control,
has been problematic both inside and outside of religion. The
preceding examples show the militant atheist ego at its murderous
worst. They also reveal that religionists are not the only people who
cower in the herd, as is shown by the Stalinists' pathetic recourse to
'atheist churches' such as the LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS
and the Groups of THE GODLESS YOUTH, complete with 'hymns.'
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A decree in January 1918... banned religious teaching in all
schools, colleges, and universities. All church buildings were taken
by the state... Church and monastic land was nationalized. No
compensation was offered for confiscated assets... Under the new
constitution, the clergy - together with capitalists, criminals, and
imbeciles - were deprived of the right to vote or hold state offices.
In practice this denied the clergy the right to food rations and their
children to education... the Orthodox Church was stripped of its legal
privileges, its land, and its source of income...
Calculated persecution returned after the Bolshevik victory in
1921. Lenin sanctioned terror as a form of pesticide to be used on
people whom he dehumanized as "harmful insects...scoundrel
fleas...bedbugs"... Émigrés estimated that 1200 priests and 28
bishops had been killed by 1923, and thousands of others, with monks
and nuns, were deported.
On Easter Day, 1925, the foundation congress of THE LEAGUE OF THE
MILITANT GODLESS was held. Its duty was to eradicate religion through
propaganda, pressure, and ridicule...
The method that Stalin used to force the peasantry onto collective
farms was terror-famine, and the result was a holocaust. Boris
Pasternak, who made a trip to gather material on collectivization,
found himself dumb with horror. "What I saw could not be expressed in
words... There was such inhuman, unimaginable misery, such a terrible
disaster, that it began to seem almost abstract, it would not fit
within the bounds of consciousness." Grain was confiscated from
starving families to gain hard currency for Stalin's industrialization
program... It is probable that fourteen million peasants died...
Communist activists led the grain searches, shot hoarders, and
herded families onto deportation transports as a matter of dogma; they
were pitiless, for dogma demanded "no concessions to
rightist-deviationist attitudes" and "no pacifism."...
Terror, and scientific atheism, was also applied to the Church.
Stalin introduced a Law of religious Associations in 1929 that banned
churches from all work with children and young people. Churches were
not allowed to organize reading rooms, libraries, excursions,
children's playgrounds, sewing groups, or bible readings; they could
not sponsor sanatoria or medical care; their priests were forbidden to
take part in any activity outside the immediate neighbourhood of the
"prayer building," the new name for "church." An attempt was made to
extinguish religion as a whole. The fury fell most harshly on the
Orthodox clergy, but thousands of other Christian priests, Baptists,
Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics,and mullahs and rabbis...were also
persecuted... some were shot, though most of those arrested suffered a
lingering death in the work camps of Siberia and the Arctic. Others
lived on the run...
Membership in THE LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS reached five
million by 1935. Children between eight and fourteen were enrolled in
GROUPS OF GODLESS YOUTH before graduating to Komsomol, the League of
Communist Youth. Prizes were offered for the best "godless hymns" and
to children who denounced their parents for voicing anti-Party
sentiments... Only one in forty churches survived; the others were
smashed to rubble or turned into warehouses, offices, and museums.
The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Moscow was destroyed with
dynamite, although care was taken to do so in the dead of night. A
Palace of Soviets topped by a huge statue of Lenin was to be built in
its place, but the site had weak foundations and it was used for a
giant open-air swimming pool instead. No churches or meeting places
were permitted in the new industrial cities...
In statistical terms the Godless looked to have won. There were
163 Orthodox bishops in 1914, and by 1939 only four survived in
freedom; of the old body of clergy 51,105 clergy, the number still in
their parishes was in the hundreds... "Religion is like a nail,"
Yaroslavsky wearily admitted. "The harder you strike it, the deeper
it goes."
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = == =
LEST WE FORGET: Atheists mass murdered over 100 million people
in the last 83 years of the 20th century alone? You can find a
most illuminating and interesting summary of historical mass murder
at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/.
The combined killings done by Jews, Christians, and Moslems
throughout history don't compare with the slaughter perpetrated
by atheists in a single century.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Religion gets ***** slapped |
03 Dec 2006 12:33:29 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:42:44 -0800, (Scott
Richter) wrote in alt.atheism
Pastor Frank <PF@christfirst.com> wrote:
And none of them were motivated by atheism or to promote atheism nor
could they be.
I see! No atrocities are initiated by atheists, only by religionists. Is
that one of the tenets of your atheist disbelief system?
He didn't say no atrocities are initiated by atheists, only that those
atrocities were not motivated by atheism. Are you really so impaired
that you can't read a simple sentence?
Frankenfundy is just that.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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