Religions > Bible > Request for people to write or call their congressmen
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"John P. Boatwright" |
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19 Sep 2004 08:16:15 AM |
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Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of
alcohol poisoning at a frat party. You might have
seen a report about it in the news. She died because
she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
You might be thinking, "oh just another dumb kid died".
Nope.
She wasn't the typical person, apparently she was a
homecoming queen, intelligent, nice, popular, and
the town she grew up in is greiving heavily over their
loss.
What I'd like people to consider is, alcohol is a drug,
a legal drug, that is often times abused, and that
can have serious consequences. The young woman that died
had been part of the D.A.R.E program, so you'd expect
that if anyone would know how alcohol could kill someone,
she would be one of the ones to know it. The point to
consider is... there are no warnings on the bottles about
HOW MUCH is dangerous, or when you can know it's dangerous.
I checked the lable of a typical California bottle of wine,
the lable says that it's bad for pregnant women to drink
and that there can be health issues... which in no way conveys
what is normal to drink, nor what could cause someone's death.
If you buy a typical drug at a pharmacist, a legal drug,
they list what is normal, to some level they tell you what
is normal to consume, but they don't on bottles of alcohol.
Why?
Did you know that if you drink to the level of passing
out (which is actually fairly common, this young woman
for instance), you are dangerously close to DYING???
Passing out drunk... can be deadly.
I didn't know that... I only found this out in doing some
quick research on the internet... yet I've been through
high school drug classes in the past that talked about such
stuff. Could it be that the young woman that died 2 weeks
ago, that she didn't know this either?
Probably.
Please, consider writing to your congressmen to ask them
to force alcohol producers to list some nominal max level
that is thought to be safe, put it on the label. My own
choice for text for such a label would say something like:
"Warning: the typical adult male should drink no more than
'X' bottles of this product in 1 hour ('Y' bottles if you
are the normal adult female), or you could die from
alcohol poisoning. If you have drunk enough to pass out,
you are dangerously close to death and should be taken
to a hospital immediately".
Something of that context, that tells people what a maximum
level of drinking is, that warns them what to watch out for.
A text like that on the bottles could have saved that young
womans life. Please write or call your congressman today.
Thanks.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
08 Nov 2004 12:09:46 PM |
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Iain wrote:
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote in message news:<41679FA6.AB@For-God.net>...
<snip>
In the U.K., white labels along the lines of "drinking kills" are soon
to be applied to drink bottles just like they are cigarette packs,
much more prominant than the brand logos.
Excellent.
They include:
"Smoking kills"
"Smoking harms you and others around you"
"Smoking leads to a long and painful death"
And the rather obvious and unscary:
"Smoke contains chemicals"
It won't make any difference. Happy now?
A friendly warning about alcohol being able to kill someone if
they pass out... is just that, a warning. It doesn't tell them
they can't drink, or that they shouldn't. It simply tells them
that they can die, or be harmed, hopefully warning them to not
drink enough to pass out. That and that if they're interested in
not having such happen, they should "figure it out, here's the info
such that you're reasonably safe".
If that's what they're doing, it seems fair and reasonable to me.
It's certainly better than not warning them.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
08 Nov 2004 01:12:13 PM |
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They include:
"Smoking kills"
"Smoking harms you and others around you"
"Smoking leads to a long and painful death"
Id rather meet somebody on the road smoking a cig than drunk!!!!
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
21 Sep 2004 06:36:58 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 +0000, John P. Boatwright wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of alcohol poisoning at a
frat party. You might have seen a report about it in the news. She died
because she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
<snip>
If I were going to write to my Congressman about this issue, it would be
to ask why relatively harmless drugs, such as marijuana and cocaine, are
illegal, while overtly dangerous drugs, such as alcohol and nicotine, are
available with few restrictions.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
21 Sep 2004 08:02:20 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:36:58 GMT in alt.atheism, MarkA (MarkA
<manthony@stopspam.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 +0000, John P. Boatwright wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of alcohol poisoning at a
frat party. You might have seen a report about it in the news. She died
because she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
<snip>
If I were going to write to my Congressman about this issue, it would be
to ask why relatively harmless drugs, such as marijuana and cocaine, are
illegal, while overtly dangerous drugs, such as alcohol and nicotine, are
available with few restrictions.
It's a point.
But I think the main reason why all "recreational drugs" should be
legal is volume of crime they engender through their illegality where
there is a demand and the unimaginable money that can be made in
dealing them.. I would have thought the US experience with Prohibition
demonstrates that.
The majority of victims of drugs aren't the addicts, but your average
citizen who's mugged, burgled, has their car radio stolen, gets
"accidentally shot" in a drive by or whatever..
Make 'em all legal, fairly taxed and priced, and I expect crime would
fall overnight. And of course, given the tax revenue, we may even be
able to pay for Iraq.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
21 Sep 2004 07:58:21 AM |
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MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in
news:pan.2004.09.21.11.39.55.220896@stopspam.net:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 +0000, John P. Boatwright wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of alcohol poisoning
at a frat party. You might have seen a report about it in the news.
She died because she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
<snip>
If I were going to write to my Congressman about this issue, it would
be to ask why relatively harmless drugs, such as marijuana and
cocaine, are illegal, while overtly dangerous drugs, such as alcohol
and nicotine, are available with few restrictions.
Partly because people think cocaine is "relatively harmless". Alcohol at
least gives you plenty of signs that it's fucking you up.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
21 Sep 2004 03:08:53 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:36:58 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 +0000, John P. Boatwright wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of alcohol poisoning at a
frat party. You might have seen a report about it in the news. She died
because she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
<snip>
If I were going to write to my Congressman about this issue, it would be
to ask why relatively harmless drugs, such as marijuana and cocaine,
On what planet is cocaine "relatively harmless"?
are
illegal, while overtly dangerous drugs, such as alcohol and nicotine, are
available with few restrictions.
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 01:29:34 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> thought hard and said:
What I'd like people to consider is, alcohol is a drug,
a legal drug, that is often times abused, and that
can have serious consequences. The young woman that died
had been part of the D.A.R.E program, so you'd expect
that if anyone would know how alcohol could kill someone,
she would be one of the ones to know it. The point to
consider is... there are no warnings on the bottles about
HOW MUCH is dangerous, or when you can know it's dangerous.
I checked the lable of a typical California bottle of wine,
the lable says that it's bad for pregnant women to drink
and that there can be health issues... which in no way conveys
what is normal to drink, nor what could cause someone's death.
That college student's death was tragic and it should have not
happened. However, putting a warning label on bottles and cans will
accomplish little to nothing as people that girl's age do not give a
damn in the first place. Trust me, I know. I have seen more than my
share of peers pass out and I am sure many people when they were my
age did, too.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
I HAVE YO-YO MA TICKETS AND YOU DO NOT!
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 11:33:48 PM |
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Daniel Kolle wrote:
That college student's death was tragic and it should have not
happened. However, putting a warning label on bottles and cans will
accomplish little to nothing as people that girl's age do not give a
damn in the first place. Trust me, I know. I have seen more than my
share of peers pass out and I am sure many people when they were my
age did, too.
At least if there was some text saying such, they'd have
tried to warn people.
Same for zinc supliments... they can cause brain damage
at some level... brain damage... so it might be nice
to tell people HOW MUCH can cause it. If you don't tell
them, and they take too much, you're partially responsible
if you're the manufacturer, seller, or the government that
regulates it.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Kermit" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
20 Sep 2004 02:07:54 PM |
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"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote in message news:<414E5D2E.4C0F@For-God.net>...
Daniel Kolle wrote:
That college student's death was tragic and it should have not
happened. However, putting a warning label on bottles and cans will
accomplish little to nothing as people that girl's age do not give a
damn in the first place. Trust me, I know. I have seen more than my
share of peers pass out and I am sure many people when they were my
age did, too.
At least if there was some text saying such, they'd have
tried to warn people.
Same for zinc supliments... they can cause brain damage
at some level... brain damage... so it might be nice
to tell people HOW MUCH can cause it. If you don't tell
them, and they take too much, you're partially responsible
if you're the manufacturer, seller, or the government that
regulates it.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
Whoa... You're right!
And did you know that if you jab a fork into your eye, it can lead to
health problems? It is irresponsible of the silverware makers of the
world not to inscribe warnings on the handles of their forks:
"Warning! Do Not jab into eyeball!"
Write your congressman, Boatwright.
Kermit
"Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine." - Patti Smith
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
20 Sep 2004 04:54:01 PM |
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"Kermit" <unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2b38d8c5.0409201107.50613d72@posting.google.com...
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote in message
news:<414E5D2E.4C0F@For-God.net>...
Daniel Kolle wrote:
That college student's death was tragic and it should have not
happened. However, putting a warning label on bottles and cans will
accomplish little to nothing as people that girl's age do not give a
damn in the first place. Trust me, I know. I have seen more than my
share of peers pass out and I am sure many people when they were my
age did, too.
At least if there was some text saying such, they'd have
tried to warn people.
Same for zinc supliments... they can cause brain damage
at some level... brain damage... so it might be nice
to tell people HOW MUCH can cause it. If you don't tell
them, and they take too much, you're partially responsible
if you're the manufacturer, seller, or the government that
regulates it.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
Whoa... You're right!
And did you know that if you jab a fork into your eye, it can lead to
health problems? It is irresponsible of the silverware makers of the
world not to inscribe warnings on the handles of their forks:
"Warning! Do Not jab into eyeball!"
My grandmother almost choked to death on a piece of apple when she was about
seven. I guess her parents should have sued all the local orchards for not
putting a warning label on their apples. What a missed opportunity! Damn!
:P
--
__________
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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19 Sep 2004 03:53:14 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
I checked the lable of a typical California bottle of wine,
the lable says that it's bad for pregnant women to drink
and that there can be health issues... which in no way conveys
what is normal to drink, nor what could cause someone's death.
Count this up as one of the few instances where I agree with you. My
personal feeling is that you're better off mandate the greek system to
take some binge drinking seminars so they can look out for warning
signs.
If you buy a typical drug at a pharmacist, a legal drug,
they list what is normal, to some level they tell you what
is normal to consume, but they don't on bottles of alcohol.
Why?
Did you know that if you drink to the level of passing
out (which is actually fairly common, this young woman
for instance), you are dangerously close to DYING???
Passing out drunk... can be deadly.
I didn't know that... I only found this out in doing some
quick research on the internet... yet I've been through
high school drug classes in the past that talked about such
stuff. Could it be that the young woman that died 2 weeks
ago, that she didn't know this either?
Probably.
Please, consider writing to your congressmen to ask them
to force alcohol producers to list some nominal max level
that is thought to be safe, put it on the label. My own
choice for text for such a label would say something like:
"Warning: the typical adult male should drink no more than
'X' bottles of this product in 1 hour ('Y' bottles if you
are the normal adult female), or you could die from
alcohol poisoning. If you have drunk enough to pass out,
you are dangerously close to death and should be taken
to a hospital immediately".
Something of that context, that tells people what a maximum
level of drinking is, that warns them what to watch out for.
A text like that on the bottles could have saved that young
womans life. Please write or call your congressman today.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1029 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 04:00:27 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
I checked the lable of a typical California bottle of wine,
the lable says that it's bad for pregnant women to drink
and that there can be health issues... which in no way conveys
what is normal to drink, nor what could cause someone's death.
Count this up as one of the few instances where I agree with you. My
personal feeling is that you're better off mandate the greek system to
take some binge drinking seminars so they can look out for warning
signs.
What ever works best, they should adopt that.
There was mention that Australia has a better system in
place, I whole heartidly am asking that anyone able to
get that put in place, please do so. There is almost no
information listed and and it's just so sad that she
died without anyone telling her how it could go if she
didn't pay attention to the amount she was consuming
or being aware of what could happen if she'd passed out.
We are so behind.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 07:06:06 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:00:27 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
I checked the lable of a typical California bottle of wine,
the lable says that it's bad for pregnant women to drink
and that there can be health issues... which in no way conveys
what is normal to drink, nor what could cause someone's death.
Count this up as one of the few instances where I agree with you. My
personal feeling is that you're better off mandate the greek system to
take some binge drinking seminars so they can look out for warning
signs.
What ever works best, they should adopt that.
I did some quick stat check. It looks like 7 people die from alcohol
poisoning every year. Which means that if you factor in population
growth, you might see somthing like 250-300 people killed by alcohol
poisoning every year.- now depending on what you think what kind of
people they are- if they are complete loses or average collge
students, the lost lifetime income to society is between 200 million
to 600 million dollars,
Which means that if the cost of these measures over the next 30 year,
be it warning labels or what not, can prevent at least some of these
deaths, they would make sense on a purely financial grounds.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1029 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 10:31:35 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:00:27 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
I checked the lable of a typical California bottle of wine,
the lable says that it's bad for pregnant women to drink
and that there can be health issues... which in no way conveys
what is normal to drink, nor what could cause someone's death.
Count this up as one of the few instances where I agree with you. My
personal feeling is that you're better off mandate the greek system to
take some binge drinking seminars so they can look out for warning
signs.
What ever works best, they should adopt that.
I did some quick stat check. It looks like 7 people die from alcohol
poisoning every year. Which means that if you factor in population
growth, you might see somthing like 250-300 people killed by alcohol
poisoning every year.- now depending on what you think what kind of
people they are- if they are complete loses or average collge
students, the lost lifetime income to society is between 200 million
to 600 million dollars,
Which means that if the cost of these measures over the next 30 year,
be it warning labels or what not, can prevent at least some of these
deaths, they would make sense on a purely financial grounds.
I did a quick search and found that the NCHS reports 317 unintentional
deaths per year, with 1076 deaths when including alcohol poisoning
as an underlying cause:
http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/110-120.htm
Your calculations based on "7 people", rather than 317 or 1076
people, might need to be adjusted higher.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 10:53:15 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 03:31:35 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:00:27 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
I checked the lable of a typical California bottle of wine,
the lable says that it's bad for pregnant women to drink
and that there can be health issues... which in no way conveys
what is normal to drink, nor what could cause someone's death.
Count this up as one of the few instances where I agree with you. My
personal feeling is that you're better off mandate the greek system to
take some binge drinking seminars so they can look out for warning
signs.
What ever works best, they should adopt that.
I did some quick stat check. It looks like 7 people die from alcohol
poisoning every year. Which means that if you factor in population
growth, you might see somthing like 250-300 people killed by alcohol
poisoning every year.- now depending on what you think what kind of
people they are- if they are complete loses or average collge
students, the lost lifetime income to society is between 200 million
to 600 million dollars,
Which means that if the cost of these measures over the next 30 year,
be it warning labels or what not, can prevent at least some of these
deaths, they would make sense on a purely financial grounds.
I did a quick search and found that the NCHS reports 317 unintentional
deaths per year, with 1076 deaths when including alcohol poisoning
as an underlying cause:
http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/110-120.htm
Excuse me, John? You did a "quick search"? How about rephrasing that
as "I clicked on the exact same reference raven1 provided me earlier
today, in a post that I responded to, so it's clear that I saw it"? It
would be a bit more honest.
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 11:23:13 PM |
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raven1 wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 03:31:35 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:00:27 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
I checked the lable of a typical California bottle of wine,
the lable says that it's bad for pregnant women to drink
and that there can be health issues... which in no way conveys
what is normal to drink, nor what could cause someone's death.
Count this up as one of the few instances where I agree with you. My
personal feeling is that you're better off mandate the greek system to
take some binge drinking seminars so they can look out for warning
signs.
What ever works best, they should adopt that.
I did some quick stat check. It looks like 7 people die from alcohol
poisoning every year. Which means that if you factor in population
growth, you might see somthing like 250-300 people killed by alcohol
poisoning every year.- now depending on what you think what kind of
people they are- if they are complete loses or average collge
students, the lost lifetime income to society is between 200 million
to 600 million dollars,
Which means that if the cost of these measures over the next 30 year,
be it warning labels or what not, can prevent at least some of these
deaths, they would make sense on a purely financial grounds.
I did a quick search and found that the NCHS reports 317 unintentional
deaths per year, with 1076 deaths when including alcohol poisoning
as an underlying cause:
http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/110-120.htm
Excuse me, John? You did a "quick search"? How about rephrasing that
as "I clicked on the exact same reference raven1 provided me earlier
today, in a post that I responded to, so it's clear that I saw it"? It
would be a bit more honest.
Oh! I did a simple google search and got the same link you
had already posted, and copy/pasted that link with the
relevant numbers.
There was no dishonesty about it, I hadn't even clicked
on your posted link because I wasn't at the time debating
alcohol deaths. When "7 people" was mentioned, I thought
that looked pretty and looked it up, obviously getting
the same link you gave. That's probably just Google's
preference for what link would cover said search terms.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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19 Sep 2004 09:20:22 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of
alcohol poisoning at a frat party. You might have
:
God made it all
:
Another innocent killed by God.
I'm not kidding, either.
If I ever see the ***** in the flesh, I'm not going to cower in
wonderment, I'm going to make a citizen's arrest.
I wonder if Michael Moore will cover it?
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| User: "LP" |
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20 Sep 2004 10:33:08 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of
alcohol poisoning at a frat party. You might have
seen a report about it in the news. She died because
she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
You might be thinking, "oh just another dumb kid died".
Nope.
She wasn't the typical person, apparently she was a
homecoming queen, intelligent, nice, popular, and
the town she grew up in is greiving heavily over their
loss.
What I'd like people to consider is, alcohol is a drug,
a legal drug, that is often times abused, and that
can have serious consequences. The young woman that died
had been part of the D.A.R.E program, so you'd expect
that if anyone would know how alcohol could kill someone,
she would be one of the ones to know it. The point to
consider is... there are no warnings on the bottles about
HOW MUCH is dangerous, or when you can know it's dangerous.
Boatwright,
Consider this,
You have spent a lot of time posting messages to newsgroups about
this subject. How about taking some of this time and write letters to
the companies that manufacture alcoholic beverages? Many producers of
alcoholic beverages have already voluntarily promoted the idea that
people should drink responsibly. State your concerns and make some
reasonable suggestions. You never know, they may agree with you.
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| User: "Puck Greenman" |
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20 Sep 2004 06:03:50 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of
alcohol poisoning at a frat party. You might have
seen a report about it in the news. She died because
she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
Post the whole report, John, or at least, a URL, where we can read it
for our selves
--
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 03:28:07 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
snip
Please, consider writing to your congressmen to ask them
to force alcohol producers to list some nominal max level
that is thought to be safe, put it on the label.
You're a fucking idiot. You are now and will always be a fucking
idiot.
Too much of just about anything will kill you, Sprembreath.
What's your next idiotic crusade? Eating too many donuts will make
you so fucking fat you'll die?How about carrot? Too much carotene will
kill you.
How about a warning label on garlic. Warning ; Eating garlic then
breathing in someone's face could get you killed. Or, insulting
lumberjacks gets you beat up. (you should know)
An idiot like you must be sitting at his keyboard with a helmet on
for safety. Too bad your Mom missed with the coat hanger.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "MarkA" |
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21 Sep 2004 06:33:37 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:28:07 +0000, Steve Knight wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net>
wrote:
snip
Please, consider writing to your congressmen to ask them to force alcohol
producers to list some nominal max level that is thought to be safe, put
it on the label.
You're a fucking idiot. You are now and will always be a fucking
idiot.
Too much of just about anything will kill you, Sprembreath.
What's your next idiotic crusade? Eating too many donuts will make
you so fucking fat you'll die?How about carrot? Too much carotene will
kill you.
That's exactly why you should never eat polar bear liver (if you ever have
the opportunity): it contains toxic levels of Vitamin A. Perhaps Boatie
could get a job tattooing warning labels on live polar bears?
How about a warning label on garlic. Warning ; Eating garlic then
breathing in someone's face could get you killed. Or, insulting
lumberjacks gets you beat up. (you should know)
An idiot like you must be sitting at his keyboard with a helmet on
for safety. Too bad your Mom missed with the coat hanger.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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19 Sep 2004 03:49:13 PM |
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Steve Knight wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
snip
Please, consider writing to your congressmen to ask them
to force alcohol producers to list some nominal max level
that is thought to be safe, put it on the label.
You're a fucking idiot. You are now and will always be a fucking
idiot.
Steve,
Put down your sword for a minute and realize, a young woman,
an intelligent young woman that many people loved and cared
about... died... she apparently didn't know that she'd been
drinking too much and passed out... and died.
All I'm asking, is for people to consider having the labels
include some modest amount of information about HOW MUCH
of whatever alcohol is in the bottles, HOW MUCH can kill
you to be listed on the bottles.
That's all.
Apparently Australia is way ahead of both the USA and the UK.
We are behind, they are ahead of us. We need to catch up.
It's importanty Steve, drop your sword and think it over.
We need to find out what Australia's been doing, and we
need to fix our labeling such that people are less likely
to do stuff that can KILL them, without them knowing they'd
end up dead.
Sure... attack away... whatever... but gosh Steve, what if
it was your daughter that died... wouldn't you have wanted
someone to have dropped all the crud, just long enough to fix
the broken stuff, so your daughter wouldn't have died?
???
That's all I'm asking Steve.
Think about it Steve... think it over.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Jez" |
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26 Sep 2004 10:14:59 AM |
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John P. Boatwright wrote:
Steve Knight wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:16:15 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
snip
Please, consider writing to your congressmen to ask them
to force alcohol producers to list some nominal max level
that is thought to be safe, put it on the label.
You're a fucking idiot. You are now and will always be a fucking
idiot.
Steve,
Put down your sword for a minute and realize, a young woman,
an intelligent young woman that many people loved and cared
about... died... she apparently didn't know that she'd been
drinking too much and passed out... and died.
She was not intelligent.
She was STUPID.
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 07:30:44 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:49:13 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
snip
Steve,
Put down your sword for a minute and realize, a young woman,
an intelligent young woman that many people loved and cared
about... died... she apparently didn't know that she'd been
drinking too much and passed out... and died.
Tough *****. ***** her. I don't feel sorry for people that are so
fucking stupid they died from being so fucking stupid. She did it to
herself! How is it any different than ANY drug overdose!?
Oops! I drank too much, now I'm dead. How tragic. She should be up
for the Darwin Award. Do you think after her 85th beer she would be in
a state to READ THE FUCKING LABEL and say, 'better stop'?
Idiot!
You are not just an idiot. You are an amazing idiot. Every time you
open your big mouth you embarrass the homo sapiens species.
Why are you so concerned about 'this' drunk'? Were you stalking
her?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
20 Sep 2004 12:06:32 AM |
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Steve Knight wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:49:13 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
snip
Steve,
Put down your sword for a minute and realize, a young woman,
an intelligent young woman that many people loved and cared
about... died... she apparently didn't know that she'd been
drinking too much and passed out... and died.
Tough *****. ***** her. I don't feel sorry for people that are so
fucking stupid they died from being so fucking stupid.
Looks like you didn't have your chocolate milk today.
She did it to
herself! How is it any different than ANY drug overdose!?
There is not ONE word of text on the bottles saying how much
is OK... not even one word. There are all kinds of text on
other legal drugs saying how much is OK.
Oops! I drank too much, now I'm dead. How tragic. She should be up
for the Darwin Award. Do you think after her 85th beer she would be in
a state to READ THE FUCKING LABEL and say, 'better stop'?
She probably didn't know if she passed out, that she's dangerously
close to death... which is the point of all this... tell people
on the bottle's label, that they can die if they pass out.
It's very common for people to drink to the point of passing out.
Hence, it seems like it would be good to warn them NOT to do that.
Idiot!
You are not just an idiot. You are an amazing idiot. Every time you
open your big mouth you embarrass the homo sapiens species.
Why are you so concerned about 'this' drunk'? Were you stalking
her?
To see someone like her dying and all the people around
her being affected so deeply over their loss, just kinda
makes me wonder why no one cared enough to warn her, and
others, such that they might not have made those decisions
in the first place. Finding out that there is NO TEXT
on the bottles warning them that a common thing people
do... is DEADLY... that just kinda makes it discussion
point, where hopefully, congress can do something similar
to what Australia has already done... or whatever works
to warn people sufficiently.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Kermit" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
20 Sep 2004 02:18:16 PM |
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"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote in message news:<414E64BD.C88@For-God.net>...
Steve Knight wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:49:13 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
snip
Steve,
Put down your sword for a minute and realize, a young woman,
an intelligent young woman that many people loved and cared
about... died... she apparently didn't know that she'd been
drinking too much and passed out... and died.
Tough *****. ***** her. I don't feel sorry for people that are so
fucking stupid they died from being so fucking stupid.
Looks like you didn't have your chocolate milk today.
She did it to
herself! How is it any different than ANY drug overdose!?
There is not ONE word of text on the bottles saying how much
is OK... not even one word. There are all kinds of text on
other legal drugs saying how much is OK.
Oops! I drank too much, now I'm dead. How tragic. She should be up
for the Darwin Award. Do you think after her 85th beer she would be in
a state to READ THE FUCKING LABEL and say, 'better stop'?
She probably didn't know if she passed out, that she's dangerously
close to death... which is the point of all this... tell people
on the bottle's label, that they can die if they pass out.
We should also affix warning labels to all automobiles, giving the
speed at which the cars can kill people. How fast is fatal?
A very nice young man in our town died recently when he lost control
of his car; apparently a new driver.
It's very common for people to drink to the point of passing out.
Hence, it seems like it would be good to warn them NOT to do that.
Idiot!
You are not just an idiot. You are an amazing idiot. Every time you
open your big mouth you embarrass the homo sapiens species.
Why are you so concerned about 'this' drunk'? Were you stalking
her?
To see someone like her dying and all the people around
her being affected so deeply over their loss, just kinda
makes me wonder why no one cared enough to warn her, and
others, such that they might not have made those decisions
in the first place. Finding out that there is NO TEXT
on the bottles warning them that a common thing people
do... is DEADLY... that just kinda makes it discussion
point, where hopefully, congress can do something similar
to what Australia has already done... or whatever works
to warn people sufficiently.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
Kermit
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| User: "towelie" |
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19 Sep 2004 08:28:57 AM |
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TV's John P. Boatwright wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of
alcohol poisoning at a frat party. You might have
seen a report about it in the news. She died because
she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
Had she been smoking weed, she would be fine. Legalize it. Now.
--
If you don't like my lyrics you can press fast forward. - Jay-Z
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
19 Sep 2004 08:37:27 AM |
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towelie wrote:
TV's John P. Boatwright wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of
alcohol poisoning at a frat party. You might have
seen a report about it in the news. She died because
she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
Had she been smoking weed, she would be fine. Legalize it. Now.
Are you sure about that?
What if you smoke enough to cause your heart to stop, wouldn't
that kill you too?
All I'm asking for, is people to be realistic about it,
put information about how someone if they exceed some
level... they can die from it. That one of the indicators
is that if you're passing out... you're dangerously close
to death. That isn't on the bottles, and it should be,
else you'll keep seeing people dying from drinking too
much and thinking they can pass out and it's all fine
and dandy... it isn't.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Iain" |
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| Title: Re: Request for people to write or call their congressmen |
20 Sep 2004 03:49:35 PM |
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"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote in message news:<414D8B1B.625@For-God.net>...
towelie wrote:
TV's John P. Boatwright wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of
alcohol poisoning at a frat party. You might have
seen a report about it in the news. She died because
she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
Had she been smoking weed, she would be fine. Legalize it. Now.
Are you sure about that?
What if you smoke enough to cause your heart to stop, wouldn't
that kill you too?
All I'm asking for, is people to be realistic
You insist vehemiently that Jupiter has a solid outer surface and that
the Earth is younger than it is by millions of years, so I wouldn't
apply your idea of realism to people's health via whatever sweaty
grasp you may have of medicine.
~Iain
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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19 Sep 2004 08:43:29 AM |
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"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote in news:414D8B1B.625@For-
God.net:
towelie wrote:
TV's John P. Boatwright wrote:
A young woman died a couple weeks ago, she died of
alcohol poisoning at a frat party. You might have
seen a report about it in the news. She died because
she was drinking too much, passed out, and died.
Had she been smoking weed, she would be fine. Legalize it. Now.
Are you sure about that?
What if you smoke enough to cause your heart to stop, wouldn't
that kill you too?
Any evidence that this can happen? No? I thought not.
God made it all
Including the booze. It must be part of his plan that this girl killed
herself.
--
Enkidu aa 2165
Now playing: Blues Traveler - Girl Inside My Head
That wall, embodied in the First Amendment, is perhaps
America's most important contribution to political progress
on this planet.
Lowell Weicker
Republican Senator 1971-1989
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