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User:	"Craig Chilton"
Date:	19 Jan 2004 09:05:26 AM
Object:	RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...

...there is absolutely NO sensible or valid reason to *deny*
gay couples the right to same-sex marriage, with ALL the advan-
tages that heterosexual married couples have.
NONE, whatsoever.
And that is why your sociopathic and hateful crusade against
gays will fail *just* as abjectly as the racists' agenda did with
respect to segregation in 1965, and interracial marriage in 1967.
Today, we remember *those* bigots as a pathetic, sick joke.
And a few years froim now, that's just how *you* homophobic
bigots will be remembered by society.
And you'll have no one to blame but your sick selves.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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User: "scott;."
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 05:16:43 PM

"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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...there is absolutely NO sensible or valid reason to *deny*
gay couples the right to same-sex marriage, with ALL the advan-

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

You poor lost child.
.

User: "CB"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 06:19:06 PM

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...there is absolutely NO sensible or valid reason to *deny*
gay couples the right to same-sex marriage, with ALL the advan-

Children who rebel do not respond to authority, even when disciplined.
Liberal courts have taken parental authority away and the result 'is'
growing hatred toward any higher moral authority.
The Impeachment Managers who were forced to air the Clinton laundry sought
to impose a moral threshold to which the President should behave. Liberalism
choose to fight Justice at any cost to shift moral conduct of the president
to his accusers. Rather than defend the president on the facts, a propaganda
campaign was waged on the mean hate mongering Christian bigots who dared
hold the Presidency to a moral standard.
The cost of a political solution over moral shame has trickle downed to
grant entitlement for inappropriate behavior. Sexual behavior as a personal
behavior has no place in politics. Forcing the majority to accept immoral
behavior in the form of a law, legitimizes the solistitation of immoral
behavior as defind by the morality of the majority and its foundations in
the Bible.
Liberalism is all about denying justice and accountability for all.
--
CB
"He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon
will be, void of all regard for his country."
--Samuel Adams

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

You poor lost child.

User: "No One"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 06:48:46 PM

"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

The Impeachment Managers who were forced to air the Clinton laundry sought
to impose a moral threshold to which the President should behave. Liberalism
choose to fight Justice at any cost to shift moral conduct of the president
to his accusers.

Clinton did not commit an impeachable offense - the term "high crimes and
misdemeanors" in the U.S. Constitution, which are the requirement for
impeachment, refer to crimes that subvert our system of government itself.
These would include abuse of authority (e.g., jailing someone indefinitely
without trail), attempts to prevent the house or senate from functioning,
or other attempts to subvert our system of government.
Clinton's accusers by contrast ignored the constitution and in many
cases had a zipper problem themselves. One claimed "youthful
indescretion" for an affair that occured when he was in his 40s. It
almost got to the point where they'd have had to appoint Barney Frank
as speaker because he was practically the only member of Congress who
would believably not chase after 20 year old women.

Rather than defend the president on the facts, a propaganda
campaign was waged on the mean hate mongering Christian bigots who dared
hold the Presidency to a moral standard.

Well at least the term "bigots" that you used was accurate. BTW, most
of us "liberals" simply viewed the matter as a private affair between
Clinton and has family and felt that the well being of Clinton's wife
and daughter were the primary factors in determining how to handle the
situation. If Hillary had decided to file for divorce and I were on
the jury, I'd have given her whatever she wanted. But I'll also defer
to her judgement as to what is best for her family.
.

User: "CB"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 07:47:17 PM

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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

The Impeachment Managers who were forced to air the Clinton laundry

sought

to impose a moral threshold to which the President should behave.

Liberalism

choose to fight Justice at any cost to shift moral conduct of the

president

to his accusers.

Impeachment may include anything which subjects the Office of the
Presidentcy or its oath to shame.
....
First, as Professor Raoul Berger writes, "impeachment itself was conceived
because the objects of impeachment, for one reason or another, were beyond
the reach of ordinary criminal redress." Impeachment, by definition, is a
tool for removing public officials for non-indictable offenses.
Second, impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors" already had a
400-year history in English common law before America's founding fathers put
that phrase in the U.S. Constitution. Judges have been impeached at least
since 1388, often for their judicial decisions and actions. John Feerick
examined more than 100 impeachments of English judges and found that 75%
were for "high crimes and misdemeanors" that included "grave misuse of one's
official position."
http://www.childrensjustice.org/impeachment/a-history-judicial-impch.htm

Clinton's accusers by contrast ignored the constitution and in many
cases had a zipper problem themselves.

So is it your contention one must be above sin to hold others to moral
accountability?
One claimed "youthful

indescretion" for an affair that occured when he was in his 40s. It
almost got to the point where they'd have had to appoint Barney Frank
as speaker because he was practically the only member of Congress who
would believably not chase after 20 year old women.

Stawman argument and Post Hoc to be sure.

Rather than defend the president on the facts, a propaganda
campaign was waged on the mean hate mongering Christian bigots who dared
hold the Presidency to a moral standard.

Part of the reason that America is divided is due to other wise good people
allowing bad personal behavior to go unpunished. The behaviorally
inappropriate have taken entitlement to dividing ones professional behavior
from ones personal. That's what makes Samuel Adams words so ominous.
"He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon
will be, void of all regard for his country."
--Samuel Adams
If Hillary had decided to file for divorce and I were on

the jury, I'd have given her whatever she wanted. But I'll also defer
to her judgement as to what is best for her family.

What the president did was one government property and on government time
--
CB
"[A]ll history is a witness of the truth...that good morals are essential to
the faithful and upright discharge of public functions."
-- Noah Webster
.

User: "No One"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 08:57:46 PM

"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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Impeachment may include anything which subjects the Office of the
Presidentcy or its oath to shame.

Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution, states,
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the
United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment
for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes
and Misdemeanors."
This quite obviously does not include a ***** from Monica, nor does
it include lying to his wife or weaseling in civil suits what were quite
likely politically motivated (given how they disappeared once Clinton
left office.)

What Professor Raoul Berger is talking about and what you are trying to
extend that to are two different things.

Second, impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors" already had a
400-year history in English common law before America's founding
fathers put that phrase in the U.S. Constitution. Judges have been
impeached at least since 1388, often for their judicial decisions
and actions. John Feerick examined more than 100 impeachments of
English judges and found that 75% were for "high crimes and
misdemeanors" that included "grave misuse of one's official
position."

Cheating on one's wife, with the consent of your paramour, is not a
"grave misuse of one's official position."
If you want an example of how sex might involve such a grave misuse,
go see a performance of Tosca, where Scarpio says he will have Tosca's
fiancee shot if she does not consent to Scarpio's advances.
And your idea of "grave misuse" is a consensual *****???

Clinton's accusers by contrast ignored the constitution and in many
cases had a zipper problem themselves.

So is it your contention one must be above sin to hold others to moral
accountability?

My contention is that one must commit an impeachable offense to be
removed from office.

One claimed "youthful indescretion" for an affair that occured
when he was in his 40s. It almost got to the point where they'd
have had to appoint Barney Frank as speaker because he was
practically the only member of Congress who would believably not
chase after 20 year old women.

Stawman argument and Post Hoc to be sure.

That won't change the fact that they had a double standard: it wasn't
about morality but about politics.

Part of the reason that America is divided is due to other wise good
people allowing bad personal behavior to go unpunished.

It is "divided" because some religious fanatics want to turn this
country into the sort of state the Afgans had under the Taliban. But,
what makes you think Clinton's personal behavior went "unpunished?"
Hillary is not to be trifled with, even if she didn't deal with it
in public for your purile amusement.

The behaviorally inappropriate have taken entitlement to dividing
ones professional behavior from ones personal. That's what makes
Samuel Adams words so ominous.

"He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon
will be, void of all regard for his country."
--Samuel Adams

There is no way Samuel Adams would have voted to impeach Clinton given
the facts. He might, however, have considered Clinton's character in
deciding whether to elect him to office or not, and for that matter,
the character of the Bush clan (or rather, the lack thereof.)

If Hillary had decided to file for divorce and I were on > the
jury, I'd have given her whatever she wanted. But I'll also defer >
to her judgement as to what is best for her family.

What the president did was one government property and on government time

The president's home is government property, and he does not punch a
clock.
.

User: "CB"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 09:04:01 PM

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:m3isj7la29.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...

Impeachment may include anything which subjects the Office of the
Presidentcy or its oath to shame.

Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution, states,

"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the
United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment
for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes
and Misdemeanors."

This quite obviously does not include a ***** from Monica, nor does
it include lying to his wife or weaseling in civil suits what were quite
likely politically motivated (given how they disappeared once Clinton
left office.)

First, as Professor Raoul Berger writes, "impeachment itself was

conceived

because the objects of impeachment, for one reason or another, were

beyond

the reach of ordinary criminal redress." Impeachment, by definition, is

tool for removing public officials for non-indictable offenses.

What Professor Raoul Berger is talking about and what you are trying to
extend that to are two different things.

Cheating on one's wife, with the consent of your paramour, is not a
"grave misuse of one's official position."

If you want an example of how sex might involve such a grave misuse,
go see a performance of Tosca, where Scarpio says he will have Tosca's
fiancee shot if she does not consent to Scarpio's advances.

And your idea of "grave misuse" is a consensual *****???

Clinton's accusers by contrast ignored the constitution and in many
cases had a zipper problem themselves.

So is it your contention one must be above sin to hold others to moral
accountability?

My contention is that one must commit an impeachable offense to be
removed from office.

Stawman argument and Post Hoc to be sure.

That won't change the fact that they had a double standard: it wasn't
about morality but about politics.

Part of the reason that America is divided is due to other wise good
people allowing bad personal behavior to go unpunished.

time

The president's home is government property, and he does not punch a
clock.

LOL, can you define the technical meaning of "is" or "alone"?
.

User: "No One"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 09:41:32 PM

"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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What the president did was one government property and on
government time

The president's home is government property, and he does not punch
a clock.

LOL, can you define the technical meaning of "is" or "alone"?

Is "LOL" your way of conceding defeat? You, after all, are the person
who brought up the rather novel claim that doing it on government
property was somehow germane. Even the Republican idiots who made us
the laughing stock of much of the rest of the world weren't that dumb.
.

User: "CB"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 09:52:34 PM

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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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What the president did was one government property and on
government time

The president's home is government property, and he does not punch
a clock.

LOL, can you define the technical meaning of "is" or "alone"?

Is "LOL" your way of conceding defeat? You, after all, are the person
who brought up the rather novel claim that doing it on government
property was somehow germane.

It 'is' germane. Any CEO or boss would have been fired and probably
prostituted for sexual harassment (if Monica so desired) for what Clinton
did as President. It was only because of a political solution was he able to
be a cling onto his government job.
Even the Republican idiots who made us

the laughing stock of much of the rest of the world weren't that dumb.

It wasn't the Republicans who forced Clinton to lie under oath as President.
--
CB
The soundbite of the week was George W Bush's response to Gerhard
Schr�der. The German Chancellor suggested that the Pentagon's decision
to make the axis of weasels ineligible for Iraqi reconstruction
contracts might be illegal under international law. "International
law?" said the President. "I'd better call my lawyer. He didn't bring
that up to me."

User: "No One"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 10:30:52 PM

"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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It 'is' germane. Any CEO or boss would have been fired and probably
prostituted for sexual harassment (if Monica so desired) for what Clinton
did as President. It was only because of a political solution was he able to
be a cling onto his government job.

Consensual sex is not sexual harassment, and Clinton certainly would not
have been "prostituted" in any case. Look up the word if you don't know
what it means.
Your idea of what a CEO can or cannot get away with is, however,
comical See
<http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/1997/01/20/editorial2.html>
for details about the 1997 case involving Oracle's CEO Larry Ellison.
Ellison was accused of having an employee fired for not having sex
with him and Oracle paid $100,000 in a settlement for wrongful
termination.
Ellison was not fired, although subsequent investigations indicated
that the plaintiff had forged email and she was prosecuted for
perjury. The settlement was made before the evidence of perjury was
uncovered, so we can surmise that whatever happened was not sufficient
grounds to fire Larry.
Ellison himself is a very flamboyant character. One of the jokes going
around the industry is, "Do you know the difference between God and
Larry Ellison? God doesn't think he is Larry Ellison." His statements
when being grilled during his former worker's perjury trail indicate
that he knows the difference between sexual harassment and a date,
but he did frequently date employees.

Even the Republican idiots who made us

the laughing stock of much of the rest of the world weren't that dumb.

It wasn't the Republicans who forced Clinton to lie under oath as President.

It was the Republicans who turned the U.S. into a world-wide laughing
stock. I picked up some foriegn newspapers while it was going on, to
see what everyone else thought, which was generally that the U.S. is
off its rocker. And now we have the inmates running the asylum.
.

User: "CB"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 10:45:03 PM

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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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It 'is' germane. Any CEO or boss would have been fired and probably
prostituted for sexual harassment (if Monica so desired) for what

Clinton

did as President. It was only because of a political solution was he

able to

be a cling onto his government job.

<http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/1997/01/20/editori
al2.html>

for details about the 1997 case involving Oracle's CEO Larry Ellison.
Ellison was accused of having an employee fired for not having sex
with him and Oracle paid $100,000 in a settlement for wrongful
termination.

Ellison was not fired, although subsequent investigations indicated
that the plaintiff had forged email and she was prosecuted for
perjury. The settlement was made before the evidence of perjury was
uncovered, so we can surmise that whatever happened was not sufficient
grounds to fire Larry.

Ellison himself is a very flamboyant character. One of the jokes going
around the industry is, "Do you know the difference between God and
Larry Ellison? God doesn't think he is Larry Ellison." His statements
when being grilled during his former worker's perjury trail indicate
that he knows the difference between sexual harassment and a date,
but he did frequently date employees.

You excuse poor choice where I do not. It's a difference in our characters.
I do not tolerate inappropriate behavior, nor do I mock Gods moral norms.

Even the Republican idiots who made us

the laughing stock of much of the rest of the world weren't that dumb.

It wasn't the Republicans who forced Clinton to lie under oath as

President.

Where you seek approval in foreign influence, I don't give a damn. As George
Washington said;
"It serves to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public
Administration....agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and
false alarms; kindles the animosity of one....against another....it opens
the door to foreign influence and corruption...thus the policy and the will
of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another."
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/farewell/
Wisdom come from council of ones contemporaries, not from foreign legends
with little interest other than our destruction. That 'is', if your "foreign
newspapers" reside in France or Germany, do they?
--
CB
"The diminuition of public virtue is usually attended with that of public
happiness, and the public liberty will not long survive the total extinction
of morals."
--Samuel Adams
.

User: "No One"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 11:03:31 PM

"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

Your idea of what a CEO can or cannot get away with is, however,
comical See

<http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/1997/01/20/editori
al2.html>

for details <summary of article deleted>

You excuse poor choice where I do not. It's a difference in our characters.
I do not tolerate inappropriate behavior, nor do I mock Gods moral norms.

I did not "excuse" a "poor choice" but *reported* what had happened in
a real-world case. Your statement, "Any CEO or boss would have been
fired," is false and I provided documentation to back that up.

It wasn't the Republicans who forced Clinton to lie under oath
as President.

It was the Republicans who turned the U.S. into a world-wide
laughing stock. I picked up some foriegn newspapers while it was
going on, to see what everyone else thought, which was generally
that the U.S. is off its rocker. And now we have the inmates
running the asylum.

Where you seek approval in foreign influence, I don't give a damn.

And your attitude is what may destroy this country.

As George Washington said;

"It serves to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public
Administration....agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies
and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one....against
another....it opens the door to foreign influence and
corruption...thus the policy and the will of one country are
subjected to the policy and will of another."
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/farewell/

Sigh. Washington was saying that we should not let other nations
control us. He was not saying we should ignore other nations to the
point of becoming international buffoons, and that is what the Clinton
case made us. Also, in Washington's time, it took a month to cross
the ocean. We were physically isolated, and that is simply not true
anymore.

Wisdom come from council of ones contemporaries, not from foreign
legends with little interest other than our destruction.

Foriegn legends???? And if "Wisdom come [sic] from council of ones
[sic] contemporaries," then why do you base your views on the contents
of a 2000 year old book?

That 'is',
if your "foreign newspapers" reside in France or Germany, do they?

Aber sicher. And contrary to your bigotry, neither France and Germany
are our enemies. Recently both were trying to help stop us from going
astray and doing something dumb. We were dumb anyway, mainly because
of the arrogant jerk occupying the White House, not to mention the
rest of his entourage.
.

User: "Light Templar"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 08:08:35 PM

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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

The Impeachment Managers who were forced to air the Clinton laundry

sought

to impose a moral threshold to which the President should behave.

Liberalism

choose to fight Justice at any cost to shift moral conduct of the

president

to his accusers.

Clinton did not commit an impeachable offense - the term "high crimes

and

misdemeanors" in the U.S. Constitution, which are the requirement for
impeachment, refer to crimes that subvert our system of government

itself.

These would include abuse of authority (e.g., jailing someone

indefinitely

without trail), attempts to prevent the house or senate from

functioning,

or other attempts to subvert our system of government.

Impeachment may include anything which subjects the Office of the
Presidentcy or its oath to shame.

...

Please cite the law that states this.

First, as Professor Raoul Berger writes, "impeachment itself was conceived
because the objects of impeachment, for one reason or another, were beyond
the reach of ordinary criminal redress." Impeachment, by definition, is a
tool for removing public officials for non-indictable offenses.

Second, impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors" already had a
400-year history in English common law before America's founding fathers

put

that phrase in the U.S. Constitution. Judges have been impeached at least
since 1388, often for their judicial decisions and actions. John Feerick
examined more than 100 impeachments of English judges and found that 75%
were for "high crimes and misdemeanors" that included "grave misuse of

one's

official position."
http://www.childrensjustice.org/impeachment/a-history-judicial-impch.htm

Since this writing is outside of legal precidence, it is no more than
opinion with no legal basis.
.

User: "CB"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 08:37:41 PM

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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

The Impeachment Managers who were forced to air the Clinton laundry

sought

to impose a moral threshold to which the President should behave.

Liberalism

choose to fight Justice at any cost to shift moral conduct of the

president

to his accusers.

Clinton did not commit an impeachable offense - the term "high crimes

and

misdemeanors" in the U.S. Constitution, which are the requirement for
impeachment, refer to crimes that subvert our system of government

itself.

These would include abuse of authority (e.g., jailing someone

indefinitely

without trail), attempts to prevent the house or senate from

functioning,

or other attempts to subvert our system of government.

Impeachment may include anything which subjects the Office of the
Presidentcy or its oath to shame.

...

Please cite the law that states this.

There is no law dumbass!!! Impeachment is a political solusion, not a legal
one!
Do you need a law for every conceivable behavior unfitting the Presidency?

First, as Professor Raoul Berger writes, "impeachment itself was

conceived

because the objects of impeachment, for one reason or another, were

beyond

the reach of ordinary criminal redress." Impeachment, by definition, is

tool for removing public officials for non-indictable offenses.

Second, impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors" already had a
400-year history in English common law before America's founding fathers

put

that phrase in the U.S. Constitution. Judges have been impeached at

least

since 1388, often for their judicial decisions and actions. John Feerick
examined more than 100 impeachments of English judges and found that 75%
were for "high crimes and misdemeanors" that included "grave misuse of

one's

official position."
http://www.childrensjustice.org/impeachment/a-history-judicial-impch.htm

Since this writing is outside of legal precidence, it is no more than
opinion with no legal basis.

User: "Light Templar"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 09:21:53 PM

"CB" <Pray@forme.org> wrote in message
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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> writes:

The Impeachment Managers who were forced to air the Clinton

laundry

sought

to impose a moral threshold to which the President should behave.

Liberalism

choose to fight Justice at any cost to shift moral conduct of the

president

to his accusers.

Clinton did not commit an impeachable offense - the term "high

crimes

and

misdemeanors" in the U.S. Constitution, which are the requirement

for

impeachment, refer to crimes that subvert our system of government

itself.

These would include abuse of authority (e.g., jailing someone

indefinitely

without trail), attempts to prevent the house or senate from

functioning,

or other attempts to subvert our system of government.

Impeachment may include anything which subjects the Office of the
Presidentcy or its oath to shame.

...

Please cite the law that states this.

There is no law dumbass!!! Impeachment is a political solusion, not a

legal

one!

There are laws that clearly outline when, where, and how impeachment is to
be accomplished, both within the Constitution, and within the Constitutional
framework.
There is absolutely no legal basis for your claim.

Do you need a law for every conceivable behavior unfitting the Presidency?

According to the U.S. Constitution, yes.
.

User: "Craig Chilton"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 10:22:00 PM

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:16:43 -0600,
Scott wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"CB" wrote:

Thore Schmechtig <commoner@carcosa.de> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

...there is absolutely NO sensible or valid reason to *deny*
gay couples the right to same-sex marriage, with ALL the advan-
tages that heterosexual married couples have.

NONE, whatsoever.

And that is why your sociopathic and hateful crusade against
gays will fail *just* as abjectly as the racists' agenda did with
respect to segregation in 1965, and interracial marriage in 1967.

Today, we remember *those* bigots as a pathetic, sick joke.

And a few years froim now, that's just how *you* homophobic
bigots will be remembered by society.

And you'll have no one to blame but your sick selves.

Let's hope that the time will come soon. :)

The sooner, the better. The presence of such obviously ignorant and
hateful people in America is an embarrassment to us in front of the rest
of the world.

Political and social lifestyles may change but morality will
never change.

And the REAL manifestation of morality can be seen by the way a
person treats others. The closer he comes to following the Golden Rule
(which *is* found three times in the Bible, with slight variations of
wording), the more moral a person is. Bigots are IMmoral sociopaths.

You poor lost child.

ROTFL!!!!!!
The only "lost" people in this issue are the bigots who are watching
their loathesome and hateful agenda against equality circling the Drain
of Extinction. Where it belongs.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
.

User: "Thore Schmechtig"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 10:33:27 AM

Hey,

Today, we remember *those* bigots as a pathetic, sick joke.
And a few years froim now, that's just how *you* homophobic
bigots will be remembered by society.

Let's hope that the time will come soon :)
--
"From the fury of the Northmen, o Lord, deliver us!"
(Desperate prayer of Irish monks when the Viking dragon ships were sighted. Obviously the Lord had more important things to do than to help his faithful...)
Greetings from Thore "Tocis" Schmechtig
Emails to commoner AT carcosa DOT de will need a "HI-AK 523" in the subject or go down the drain!
.

User: "CB"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 11:57:45 AM

"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave
unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" (Genesis 2:24).
--
CB
"For I am the Lord, I change not" (Malachi 3:6a). "Jesus Christ the same
yesterday, and to day, and for ever" (Hebrews 13:8).
http://www.bible.com/answers/agift.html
Political and social lifestyles may change but morality will never change.
"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:buh0ta$ha9fa$1@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...

Hey,

Today, we remember *those* bigots as a pathetic, sick joke.
And a few years froim now, that's just how *you* homophobic
bigots will be remembered by society.

Let's hope that the time will come soon :)

--
"From the fury of the Northmen, o Lord, deliver us!"
(Desperate prayer of Irish monks when the Viking dragon ships were

sighted. Obviously the Lord had more important things to do than to help his
faithful...)

Greetings from Thore "Tocis" Schmechtig
Emails to commoner AT carcosa DOT de will need a "HI-AK 523" in the

subject or go down the drain!
.

User: "Fletch F. Fletch"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 12:49:29 PM

"CB" <Pray@forme.org> wrote in message
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"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave
unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" (Genesis 2:24).

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." (A Tale of Two
Cities 1:1)
Given the level of acceptable evidence, it seemed relevant.
Fletch
.

User: "Light Templar"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 01:22:26 PM

"Fletch F. Fletch" <notme31415@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> wrote in message
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"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave
unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" (Genesis 2:24).

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." (A Tale of Two
Cities 1:1)

Given the level of acceptable evidence, it seemed relevant.

Fletch

Far more relevant than what CB quoted anyway.
.

User: "scott;."
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 05:17:44 PM

"Light Templar" <I@DONTACCEPTEMAIL.FAM> wrote in message
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"Fletch F. Fletch" <notme31415@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> wrote in message
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"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall

cleave

unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" (Genesis 2:24).

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." (A Tale of Two
Cities 1:1)

Given the level of acceptable evidence, it seemed relevant.

Fletch

Far more relevant than what CB quoted anyway.

CB is right on the mark.
.

User: "Bernard Hubbard"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	20 Jan 2004 12:06:22 AM

"scott;." <BySpam@noSpam.com> wrote in
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"Light Templar" <I@DONTACCEPTEMAIL.FAM> wrote in message
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"Fletch F. Fletch" <notme31415@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"CB" <Pray@forme.org> wrote in message
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"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and
shall

cleave

unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" (Genesis 2:24).

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." (A
Tale of Two Cities 1:1)

Given the level of acceptable evidence, it seemed relevant.

Fletch

Far more relevant than what CB quoted anyway.

CB is right on the mark.

Mark who?
--
Bernard Hubbard
Australian, Gay, Green and Proud.
.

User: "Thore Schmechtig"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	20 Jan 2004 07:21:28 AM

CB is right on the mark.

He's a bigot and hatemonger. If I'd still care (read: If I'd still be a
christian) I'd not hesitate to call him a heretic.
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A (CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALIST
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
"atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
(4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself a Christian.
.

User: "CB"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	20 Jan 2004 08:37:21 AM

"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:buja5r$hlr9n$1@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...

CB is right on the mark.

He's a bigot and hatemonger. If I'd still care (read: If I'd still be a
christian) I'd not hesitate to call him a heretic.

Can ya feel the love?

TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A (CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALIST

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of yours.

DEUTERONOMY 4:35,39 - Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that
the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this
day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven
above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
1 KINGS 8:60 - That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is
God, and that there is none else.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
created from dirt.

I feel none of that. I feel you hate the idea of Christians holding to
traditional Biblical teachings and not contemporary ideas based on
'progressive' and enlightened Scientology.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
believing in a Triune God.

There are Evil spirits in this world. How could one explain Saddamn, his
sons or their idol, Hitler (Occultist)?

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
"atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
including women, children, and trees!

Who am I to question God? Attempting to rationalize Jehovah into an uncaring
God is to question His wisdom. Like with Job, it is not this life I look to,
it is the next. Man is powerless to control Jehovah.
You mix Evil with Goodness in describing Jehovah. I suggest you attend a few
Messianic Bible study classes to clear things up. You seem confused.

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

I can understand your confusion. Intellectually you assign equality to man
made religions to Truth. Bible study can help save you from the 'island'
your own now. I would not have you to be ignorant, brother.
The Resurrection is the Promise of ever lasting life. This life was
corrupted from the beginning. It is the next life we Christians look forward
to and the Return of the King who died for our sins, rose from the dead,
proving we to will ascend into the sky. First those who died in faith, then
those who are still alive will meet them in the sky. Funny how you know so
much but have little understanding. Is there hope in you for a better life?

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
(4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
generations old.

You put faith in man made measurements like Carbon Dating, scientifically
established in the 20th century.
The history of the Jewish people is in the Bible and there for all who
thirst for It. Proof of God is the history of His people.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

Personally I believe that God will extinguish the souls of the lost into the
Lake of Fire because God 'is' merciful.

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

There are abominations of Goodness everywhere. That's why it's important to
get the Word from as close to the Source as possible, from a Messianic Bible
teacher.
By the way, Noah's Arc was discovered by science as was the flood and the
Dead Scrolls. So science can and does compliment the Bible. Scientology is
self worship.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

You don't seem to understand how prayer works. First, God likes to be
praised for the gift of life He's given to you. No prayer works without
praising him first. Second, prayers are answered in ways in which most do
not comprehend. If your keeping score on the results, you're going to be
disappointed every time. Third, your heart isn't right with God so your
'knocking' may be viewed as a sales call rather than humble prayer. God has
Caller ID you know.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself a Christian.

The second biggest lie the devil convinced the world was, your not worthy.
What 'is' Knowledge without Wisdom?
Most people confuse ego, arrogance and education with wisdom. It is the
simple, child like choice of accepting God's Word as Truth that kindles a
thirst for Knowledge. What profits a man to have the knowledge of the Bible
but doesn't believe It?
--
CB
"For I am the Lord, I change not" (Malachi 3:6a). "Jesus Christ the same
yesterday, and to day, and for ever" (Hebrews 13:8).
http://www.bible.com/answers/agift.html
.

User: "Thore Schmechtig"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	20 Jan 2004 11:01:50 AM

CB is right on the mark.

He's a bigot and hatemonger. If I'd still care (read: If I'd still be a
christian) I'd not hesitate to call him a heretic.

Can ya feel the love?

To each his own. You get what you deserve.
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A (CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALIST
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
"atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
(4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself a Christian.
.

User: "Thore Schmechtig"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	20 Jan 2004 07:19:58 AM

Political and social lifestyles may change but morality will never change.

You with your ludicrous claims are a perfect proof of the opposite. Get
lost pseudo-christian. As long as you defile the basic commandments of
christianity you have no right to call yourself christian.
UNWRITTEN RULES OF (PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALISM
1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical,
psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive
4a. Specific example for 4.: Cry for "freedom of religion", but
whenever followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts
agree, scream "Persecution!"
5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of God's personal plan for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to God himself
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of God's plans
for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of Gods will
for
the betterment of mankind.
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information
in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as left wing
propaganda)
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything unless you purport to
forgive on behalf of other people unconnected with you for whom you
don't
have that right anyhow.
.

User: "Craig Chilton"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	19 Jan 2004 01:49:38 PM

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:57:45 -0500,
"CB" wrote:

Thore Schmechtig <commoner@carcosa.de> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

...there is absolutely NO sensible or valid reason to *deny*
gay couples the right to same-sex marriage, with ALL the advan-
tages that heterosexual married couples have.

NONE, whatsoever.

And that is why your sociopathic and hateful crusade against
gays will fail *just* as abjectly as the racists' agenda did with
respect to segregation in 1965, and interracial marriage in 1967.

Today, we remember *those* bigots as a pathetic, sick joke.

And a few years froim now, that's just how *you* homophobic
bigots will be remembered by society.

And you'll have no one to blame but your sick selves.

Let's hope that the time will come soon. :)

The sooner, the better. The presence of such obviously ignoran and
hateful people in America is an embarrassment to us in front of the rest
of the world.

Political and social lifestyles may change but morality will
never change.

And the REAL manifestation of morality can be seen by the way a
person treats others. The closer he comes to folloing the Golden Rule
(which *is* found three times in the Bible, with slight variations of
wording), the more moral a person is. Bigots are IMmoral sociopaths.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
.

User: "Thore Schmechtig"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	20 Jan 2004 07:18:37 AM

Hi,

Let's hope that the time will come soon. :)

The sooner, the better. The presence of such obviously ignoran and
hateful people in America is an embarrassment to us in front of the rest
of the world.

Well, for the sake of fairness I have to point out that the USA are not
the only country with such misled bigots. I remember some time ago when
the famous German actor Hildegard Knef died, the mayor of Berlin held a
speech at the funeral service... the whole nation mourned... guess
what? A religious fanatic rose to disrupt the speech with "Being gay is
a sin! Being gay is a sin!". The mayor was openly homosexual. The bigot
was close to being lynched by the outraged crowd...
<cynism> Oh what a good deed. Insulting the sad feelings of a whole
nation because of some long-debunked claim in a dusty old book!

(bowing head in respect)
Let these words be known throughout the world! All the bastards in the
newsgroups accusing each other of being heretics obviously forgot the
very foundation of what they call their faith!
Hail to you who is not afraid to proclaim the truth!
--
"From the fury of the Northmen, o Lord, deliver us!"
(Desperate prayer of Irish monks when the Viking dragon ships were sighted. Obviously the Lord had more important things to do than to help his faithful...)
Greetings from Thore "Tocis" Schmechtig
Emails to commoner AT carcosa DOT de will need a "HI-AK 523" in the subject or go down the drain!
.

User: "Craig Chilton"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	20 Jan 2004 09:51:42 PM

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:18:37 +0100,
"Thore Schmechtig" <

> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"CB" wrote:

Thore Schmechtig <

> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

...there is absolutely NO sensible or valid reason to *deny*
gay couples the right to same-sex marriage, with ALL the
advantages that heterosexual married couples have.

NONE, whatsoever.

And that is why your sociopathic and hateful crusade against
gays will fail *just* as abjectly as the racists' agenda did with
respect to segregation in 1965, and interracial marriage in 1967.

Today, we remember *those* bigots as a pathetic, sick joke.

And a few years froim now, that's just how *you* homophobic
bigots will be remembered by society.

And you'll have no one to blame but your sick selves.

Let's hope that the time will come soon. :)

The sooner, the better. The presence of such obviously ignorant and
hateful people in America is an embarrassment to us in front of the rest
of the world.

Well, for the sake of fairness I have to point out that the USA are not
the only country with such misled bigots. I remember some time ago when
the famous German actor Hildegard Knef died, the mayor of Berlin held a
speech at the funeral service... the whole nation mourned... guess
what? A religious fanatic rose to disrupt the speech with "Being gay is
a sin! Being gay is a sin!" The mayor was openly homosexual. The bigot
was close to being lynched by the outraged crowd...

And if they had, no SENSIBLE person could have blamed them.

<cynism> Oh what a good deed. Insulting the sad feelings of a whole
nation because of some long-debunked claim in a dusty old book!

RRR cultists, wherever they are, are crazy as barn owls. And are
VERY hateful and wrongheaded bigots. But -- we must always remember
that those extremists are VASTLY outnumbered (by between 50 to 100 -1,
in the USA) by NORMAL, fair-minded, and tolerant Christians who are
unjustifiable being painted with a brush that only the RRR cultists
deserve. MOST Christians don't get involved AT ALL in the loathe-
some and sociopathic agendas of the RRR cultists.

(bowing head in respect)

Let these words be known throughout the world! All the bastards in the
newsgroups accusing each other of being heretics obviously forgot the
very foundation of what they call their faith! Hail to you who is not afraid
to proclaim the truth!

--
"From the fury of the Northmen, o Lord, deliver us!"
(Desperate prayer of Irish monks when the Viking dragon ships were
sighted. Obviously the Lord had more important things to do than to
help his faithful...)

Greetings from Thore "Tocis" Schmechtig
E-mails to

will need a "HI-AK 523" in
the subject or go down the drain!

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
.

User: "CB"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	20 Jan 2004 10:09:14 PM

"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:4024f1d9.33031393@netnews.mchsi.com...

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:18:37 +0100,
"Thore Schmechtig" <

> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"CB" wrote:

Thore Schmechtig <

> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Let's hope that the time will come soon. :)

The sooner, the better. The presence of such obviously ignorant

and

hateful people in America is an embarrassment to us in front of the

rest

of the world.

Well, for the sake of fairness I have to point out that the USA are

not

the only country with such misled bigots. I remember some time ago when
the famous German actor Hildegard Knef died, the mayor of Berlin held a
speech at the funeral service... the whole nation mourned... guess
what? A religious fanatic rose to disrupt the speech with "Being gay is
a sin! Being gay is a sin!" The mayor was openly homosexual. The bigot
was close to being lynched by the outraged crowd...

And if they had, no SENSIBLE person could have blamed them.

What a hateful thing to say.

<cynism> Oh what a good deed. Insulting the sad feelings of a whole
nation because of some long-debunked claim in a dusty old book!

RRR cultists, wherever they are, are crazy as barn owls.

Is that like a back woods, "Deliverance" expression?
And are

VERY hateful and wrongheaded bigots.

The only hateful words I EVER read is from your lot, your Leftist, morally
challenged lot.
But -- we must always remember

that those extremists are VASTLY outnumbered (by between 50 to 100 -1,
in the USA) by NORMAL, fair-minded, and tolerant Christians who are
unjustifiable being painted with a brush that only the RRR cultists
deserve.

Strong words but wrong. The presidents speech on what defines the
institution of marriage will be the prevailing standard for all time. The
majority and history is on the Right side.
MOST Christians don't get involved AT ALL in the loathe-

some and sociopathic agendas of the RRR cultists.

Until pushed.

(bowing head in respect)

Let these words be known throughout the world! All the bastards in

the

newsgroups accusing each other of being heretics obviously forgot the
very foundation of what they call their faith! Hail to you who is not

afraid

to proclaim the truth!

--
"From the fury of the Northmen, o Lord, deliver us!"
(Desperate prayer of Irish monks when the Viking dragon ships were
sighted. Obviously the Lord had more important things to do than to
help his faithful...)

Greetings from Thore "Tocis" Schmechtig
E-mails to

will need a "HI-AK 523" in
the subject or go down the drain!

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

User: "Fletch F. Fletch"
Title: Re: RRR Cult Bigots --- I "hate" (LOL!!) to break this to you, BUT...	20 Jan 2004 10:30:37 PM

Strong words but wrong. The presidents speech on what defines the
institution of marriage will be the prevailing standard for all time. The
majority and history is on the Right side.

Have a crystal ball, do you?
I suspect you will live long enough to be disappointed. I'm a Republican,
and I don't share the president's views on marriage. I'm not alone.
In any event, all of this sanctimony surrounding marriage is nauseating.
This institution is ***** on regularly. I guaran-damn-tee you than many,
perhaps most, of those arguing so hard for the sanctity of marriage have
broken their vows.
Fletch
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