On 1 Aug 2006 01:31:55 -0700,
LYING SACK OF CRAP, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

Bigoted Loser, "bobandcarole" wrote:

Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

July 31, 2006 -

Israel is mobilizing 3 more divisions (5,000 troops each, for
a total of 15,000) of reservists... and SYRIA's president has just
ordered its military to increase its readiness and alert status,
saying that Syria "will not abandon" it's ally, Lebanon. "Prepare
better and train harder for whatever may come next," he said,
per CNN.

Also -- Israel's war cabinet just authorized a wider ground
war in Lebanon.

THREE major escalations within just the last few minutes.

So what, Israel will kick ***** and take names

(When Is. 17:1 gets fulfilled... possibly within days or weeks,
now, with the nuking of Damascus...

Don't stop there, nuke the whole friggin middle east

...it'll be VERY interesting to see the reactions in here by those
who claimed it would never happen. If they remain silent after
that, I'll RE-post their DENIAL posts, and spread a LOT of omelet
very publicly all over their faces.)

Craig, you seem very hateful toward middle eastern people.

LYING is your long suit. I've been to the Middle East multiple times
(Israel *and* the Arab nations) and have very much enjoyed the
company of all of the really neat people I've met there. And any ONE
of them would be worth more than a million of YOU.

<remaining CRAP flushed>

The Oligarchical Leadership of
the RRR Cult has -- from Day One --
Targeted the Folks MOST Susceptible
to Accepting their Clueless Propaganda:
The Mentally-Challenged.
WITHOUT Whom, there could BE No RRR Cult.

Keep this corollary question in mind as you read...

WHY does the idea of repressively *controlling*
people and seeking to destroy personal liberties
that are truly NONE of their business... hold a
strong APPEAL for many *Lower-I.Q.* people?


A primary common denominator of the lemmings of the
RRR Cult is their propensity for being busybodyish control-
freaks with respect to personal matter that are *none* of
their business.

And the RRR Cult DEPENDS upon its base having that
mental and/or personality defect!

*How* do the cult's leaders FIND such people... and *why*
would those people *have* such a personality defect? This
article will begin an exploration of those points, among others.

Unfortunately for America, the leaders of the (pseudo-)
Religious Radical Right had determined right from the get-go,
over 30 years ago, that in order to successfully SUBVERT the
personal liberties of hundreds of millions of Americans actually
*depended* upon the RRR Cult's crafty leaders being able to
CON the USA's most vulnerable segment into subscribing to
the cult's hateful and repressive agendas.

Of course, *IF* the leaders could have drawn upon facts --
*relevant* facts, to build a case for destroying vital freedoms,
then this question would have been less likely to arise.

When support for ANY program or agenda can be gleaned
via the application of strong and relevant FACTS upon which
a case can empirically be built, then direct appeal can be made
to just about everyone.

But no such support even EXISTS for the RRR Cult.

There are NO relevant facts upon which its oligarchical
leaders can draw. They *literally* are nonexistent. And
WITHOUT those, there goes the ball game for attracting and
recruiting people having normal and above-normal IQ levels.

The ONLY hope for the RRR's leaders was for them to make
a very concerted, consistent, and constant effort to concoct
and disseminate propaganda that would mask the underlying
hatefulness that underlies their agendas, WHILE sounding
sensible and acceptable to the less astute folks. To the people
who, through no fault of their own, were born with the ONE
characteristic that would make them the primary victims of the
RRR's recruitment techniques. Those who are LEAST able to
integrate the information their minds are receiving, and test
and compare that information against relevant facts... in
order to evaluate its acceptability. Those in society having
IQs of 85 and under.*

*(With 100 being average. HALF of any signifi-
cantly-sized random population will have IQs at
or above 100. And half will be under 100. It's
a normal bell curve. An unskewed curve. Thus,
130 and above is quite high, and 5% of the
population is found within that lofty realm.
(Qualification for Mensa... the high-IQ frat...
starts at 138. All above that level comprise 2%
of the population.

At the other end of the curve lie the 5% having
IQs of 70 and less. 70 is generally regarded by
mental health professionals to be the threshold
of mild mental retardation. Just as is the case
with Mensa, 1 out of every 50 people lie 38
points away from the mean (100), having IQs
of 62 and below.

ALL of this is genetic luck of the draw. People
don't get to choose to be born either highly
intelligent or mentally-challenged. But the RRR
Cults leaders slather over the latter. For not
only is that the cult's base -- but it *also* is the
cult's ONLY POSSIBLE base! Very, very FEW
people who are capable of integrating data
well, and FACT-testing it in their mind, would
even *begin* to be fooled by the VACUOUS
DISinformation, lies, phony dogmas, and
semantic word-games that the cult's leaders
spew in order to con the less intelligent... and
KEEP them deceived and deluded.

Only a mere 5% of America's population has subscribed
to the ludicrous and lying dogmas and agendas of the RRR
Cult. The nation's population is 300,000,000. Factor out
the children under age 10 any you have around 220 million.
Thus, around 11 million people are lemmings of the RRR Cult.

"Well-l-l-l... how bad can *that* be?," you might ask.

THIS bad:

RRR Cult : our rights :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water

(Guaranteed, we just lost comprehension capability of
most RRR cultists right there. Analogies just fly right over
their heads. Which isn't surprising, when one considers that
Mensa realized decades ago that ability to employ and under-
stand analogies is directly proportional to IQ... and has
employed the Miller Analogies Test as a valid entrance med-
ium ever since.)

What a shame it is that those whom the RRR Cult's
leaders have victimized won't be able to understand most
of the basic points I'm about to make, so that the *COULD*
offer arguments in response, rather than the usual whines,
yowls, and vacuous insults that the always offer instead.

And WORSE... *far* worse... the vast majority of the
cult's lemmings' mentality probably is so limited that they
either are not even in here to begin with, or if they are,
would be unable to come up with intelligent answers. The
RRR cultists who participate in Usenet and blogs are the
cream of the crop, most likely, intelligence-wise, and they
are not up to it. Not even remotely.

Let's see just HOW "dense" a person has to be, to accept
the disinformation of the RRR, in some examples:

(1) The RRR says...

"Abortion is wrong, and must be outlawed."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- Since you claim to be Christians, WHERE
in the Bible is there *anything* to support
that stance?

-- How can you even THINK of asking us to
support an agenda that seeks to relegate
girls and women to 2nd-class-citizen status?

-- How can you even THINK of asking us to
support an agenda that would FORCE
millions of girls and women to gestate
UNwanted pregnancies to term, at the
expense of countless of their future
opportunities, their well-being, and their
economic status over years to come?

(2) The RRR says:

"We must change the culture!"

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- WHERE does the Bible authorize you (or us)
to act as *enforcers* of either its percepts
or *your* humanly-concocted dogmas vs.
society. The Bible appoints NO such
Gestapo. In fact, it even FORBIDS it! See
1 Cor. 5:12-13.

(2) The RRR says:

"Fight for the public display of the 10
Commandments."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- WHY? Considering the fact that there is
*no* Constitutional provision that would
keep us from displaying them on PRIVATE
property. And if enough of us chose to
do that, we'd hardly ever be out of sight
of them.

-- Since 17% of the American population
is NOT Judeo-Christian, WHY would you
ask us to disregard the right of those tens
of millions of people to NOT have govern-
mental *endorsement* of another religion
foisted upon them?

(3) The RRR says:

"Fight to keep 'In God We Trust" on our
coins and currency."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- WHY? What difference would it make if
our money went BACK to being the way
it USED to be, before those words
appeared on it? Was America *cursed*
back in those days? Or were we doing
pretty much as well then as we've been
doing since?

-- If someone were to claim that America
is a "white" nation, there would be instant
outcries of "Bigotry!!" Because ours is a
multi-racial nation. So -- WHY doesn't
the SAME reaction come about whenever
you say or imply that America is a
"Christian" nation? (Even though it is
a nation containing 40 million or more
NON-Christians.)

(4) The RRR says:

"Fight to keep 'under God' in the Pledge
of allegiance."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- "WHY? How did we manage to get along
just FINE *before* that alteration was
applied to it in 1954? Why should we
slap millions on NON-believers in the face
by even *suggesting* that they should
recite words in which they do not believe?

(5) The RRR says:

"Pass 'DOMA' (so-called "Defense of Marriage
Acts") and a Constitutional Amendment
against same-sex marriage, so as to DEFEND
traditional marriage."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- HOW would gays marrying their same-sex
partners threaten the marriages of opposite-
sex couples? If a gay couple in a town had
been cohabiting for 15 years, and then found
one day that they could become legally
married... and then DID so... just HOW would
that do ANY harm to *any* opposite-sex couple
living in that town?

-- You condemn homosexuality because the Bible
referred to it as "an abomination." BUT --
*fortune-telling* ALSO is regarded in the Bible
as an "abomination." So WHY are you on the
case of homosexuality, but NOT condemning
the playing with Tarot Cards and Ouija Boards
with EQUAL vigor? Don't you know what a
**hypocrite** is?

SO --- people having average and above intelligence
*would* ask those questions that the RRR cultists DON'T
ask. And they'd do it in a heartbeat!

The fact that the lemmings DON'T challenge their
leaders with those highly-relevant questions is probably
the STRONGEST evidence of their limited mentality.

UNLESS one happened to be an *anomalous* person
having a combination of intelligence AND a desire to be
control-freakish toward people in the course of supporting
IRRATIONAL agendas... being an RRR cultist is the LAST
thing that any sensible and relatively-intelligent person
would ever want to be. The RRR's agendas not only are
unreasonable and repressive, but they ALSO are utterly
irrational, absurd, and downright ludicrous. Worst of all,
many of those agendas (such as the Anti-Choice regarding
abortion, and anti-EQUAL-rights for gays agendas... are
loathsomely anti-social and HATEFUL.

Until a reliable survey makes a determination otherwise,
which I doubt will happen, I'm betting that the *average*
IQ of RRR Cult lemmings is 80 or so, and more likely lower.
The cult's leaders deliberately target them, need them, and
successfully CON them. And *keep* them conned. Their
SOURCE of those lemmings has to be from the under-85
group. And that gives them 15% of the population to
target. They HAVE 11 million. Their TARGET group
contains (of people over 10 years of age) 33 million.

And THAT brings us to the question that is asked by the
subject header:

"WHY does repressively *controlling* people APPEAL
to so many *IGNORANT* people?"

Why don't those people, *despite* their usually-low IQs,
see how HATEFUL the RRR Cult's agendas are... and simply
*reject* them on THAT basis?

SOMETHING in those (or most of those) people must find
**controlling** other people appealing. Lack of self-esteem,
perhaps? Some sort of perceived need to "BE somebody?"
(But... *what* a thing to be!!)

Craig Chiton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

The Oligarchical Leadership of
the RRR Cult has -- from Day One --
Targeted the Folks MOST Susceptible
to Accepting their Clueless Propaganda:
The Mentally-Challenged.
WITHOUT Whom, there could BE No RRR Cult.

Keep this corollary question in mind as you read...

WHY does the idea of repressively *controlling*
people and seeking to destroy personal liberties
that are truly NONE of their business... hold a
strong APPEAL for many *Lower-I.Q.* people?


A primary common denominator of the lemmings of the
RRR Cult is their propensity for being busybodyish control-
freaks with respect to personal matter that are *none* of
their business.

And the RRR Cult DEPENDS upon its base having that
mental and/or personality defect!

*How* do the cult's leaders FIND such people... and *why*
would those people *have* such a personality defect? This
article will begin an exploration of those points, among others.

Unfortunately for America, the leaders of the (pseudo-)
Religious Radical Right had determined right from the get-go,
over 30 years ago, that in order to successfully SUBVERT the
personal liberties of hundreds of millions of Americans actually
*depended* upon the RRR Cult's crafty leaders being able to
CON the USA's most vulnerable segment into subscribing to
the cult's hateful and repressive agendas.

Of course, *IF* the leaders could have drawn upon facts --
*relevant* facts, to build a case for destroying vital freedoms,
then this question would have been less likely to arise.

When support for ANY program or agenda can be gleaned
via the application of strong and relevant FACTS upon which
a case can empirically be built, then direct appeal can be made
to just about everyone.

But no such support even EXISTS for the RRR Cult.

There are NO relevant facts upon which its oligarchical
leaders can draw. They *literally* are nonexistent. And
WITHOUT those, there goes the ball game for attracting and
recruiting people having normal and above-normal IQ levels.

The ONLY hope for the RRR's leaders was for them to make
a very concerted, consistent, and constant effort to concoct
and disseminate propaganda that would mask the underlying
hatefulness that underlies their agendas, WHILE sounding
sensible and acceptable to the less astute folks. To the people
who, through no fault of their own, were born with the ONE
characteristic that would make them the primary victims of the
RRR's recruitment techniques. Those who are LEAST able to
integrate the information their minds are receiving, and test
and compare that information against relevant facts... in
order to evaluate its acceptability. Those in society having
IQs of 85 and under.*

*(With 100 being average. HALF of any signifi-
cantly-sized random population will have IQs at
or above 100. And half will be under 100. It's
a normal bell curve. An unskewed curve. Thus,
130 and above is quite high, and 5% of the
population is found within that lofty realm.
(Qualification for Mensa... the high-IQ frat...
starts at 138. All above that level comprise 2%
of the population.

At the other end of the curve lie the 5% having
IQs of 70 and less. 70 is generally regarded by
mental health professionals to be the threshold
of mild mental retardation. Just as is the case
with Mensa, 1 out of every 50 people lie 38
points away from the mean (100), having IQs
of 62 and below.

ALL of this is genetic luck of the draw. People
don't get to choose to be born either highly
intelligent or mentally-challenged. But the RRR
Cults leaders slather over the latter. For not
only is that the cult's base -- but it *also* is the
cult's ONLY POSSIBLE base! Very, very FEW
people who are capable of integrating data
well, and FACT-testing it in their mind, would
even *begin* to be fooled by the VACUOUS
DISinformation, lies, phony dogmas, and
semantic word-games that the cult's leaders
spew in order to con the less intelligent... and
KEEP them deceived and deluded.

Only a mere 5% of America's population has subscribed
to the ludicrous and lying dogmas and agendas of the RRR
Cult. The nation's population is 300,000,000. Factor out
the children under age 10 any you have around 220 million.
Thus, around 11 million people are lemmings of the RRR Cult.

"Well-l-l-l... how bad can *that* be?," you might ask.

THIS bad:

RRR Cult : our rights :: 5% arsenic : glass of drinking water

(Guaranteed, we just lost comprehension capability of
most RRR cultists right there. Analogies just fly right over
their heads. Which isn't surprising, when one considers that
Mensa realized decades ago that ability to employ and under-
stand analogies is directly proportional to IQ... and has
employed the Miller Analogies Test as a valid entrance med-
ium ever since.)

What a shame it is that those whom the RRR Cult's
leaders have victimized won't be able to understand most
of the basic points I'm about to make, so that the *COULD*
offer arguments in response, rather than the usual whines,
yowls, and vacuous insults that the always offer instead.

And WORSE... *far* worse... the vast majority of the
cult's lemmings' mentality probably is so limited that they
either are not even in here to begin with, or if they are,
would be unable to come up with intelligent answers. The
RRR cultists who participate in Usenet and blogs are the
cream of the crop, most likely, intelligence-wise, and they
are not up to it. Not even remotely.

Let's see just HOW "dense" a person has to be, to accept
the disinformation of the RRR, in some examples:

(1) The RRR says...

"Abortion is wrong, and must be outlawed."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- Since you claim to be Christians, WHERE
in the Bible is there *anything* to support
that stance?

-- How can you even THINK of asking us to
support an agenda that seeks to relegate
girls and women to 2nd-class-citizen status?

-- How can you even THINK of asking us to
support an agenda that would FORCE
millions of girls and women to gestate
UNwanted pregnancies to term, at the
expense of countless of their future
opportunities, their well-being, and their
economic status over years to come?

(2) The RRR says:

"We must change the culture!"

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- WHERE does the Bible authorize you (or us)
to act as *enforcers* of either its percepts
or *your* humanly-concocted dogmas vs.
society. The Bible appoints NO such
Gestapo. In fact, it even FORBIDS it! See
1 Cor. 5:12-13.

(2) The RRR says:

"Fight for the public display of the 10
Commandments."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- WHY? Considering the fact that there is
*no* Constitutional provision that would
keep us from displaying them on PRIVATE
property. And if enough of us chose to
do that, we'd hardly ever be out of sight
of them.

-- Since 17% of the American population
is NOT Judeo-Christian, WHY would you
ask us to disregard the right of those tens
of millions of people to NOT have govern-
mental *endorsement* of another religion
foisted upon them?

(3) The RRR says:

"Fight to keep 'In God We Trust" on our
coins and currency."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- WHY? What difference would it make if
our money went BACK to being the way
it USED to be, before those words
appeared on it? Was America *cursed*
back in those days? Or were we doing
pretty much as well then as we've been
doing since?

-- If someone were to claim that America
is a "white" nation, there would be instant
outcries of "Bigotry!!" Because ours is a
multi-racial nation. So -- WHY doesn't
the SAME reaction come about whenever
you say or imply that America is a
"Christian" nation? (Even though it is
a nation containing 40 million or more
NON-Christians.)

(4) The RRR says:

"Fight to keep 'under God' in the Pledge
of allegiance."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- "WHY? How did we manage to get along
just FINE *before* that alteration was
applied to it in 1954? Why should we
slap millions on NON-believers in the face
by even *suggesting* that they should
recite words in which they do not believe?

(5) The RRR says:

"Pass 'DOMA' (so-called "Defense of Marriage
Acts") and a Constitutional Amendment
against same-sex marriage, so as to DEFEND
traditional marriage."

The lemmings NEVER ask their leaders:

-- HOW would gays marrying their same-sex
partners threaten the marriages of opposite-
sex couples? If a gay couple in a town had
been cohabiting for 15 years, and then found
one day that they could become legally
married... and then DID so... just HOW would
that do ANY harm to *any* opposite-sex couple
living in that town?

-- You condemn homosexuality because the Bible
referred to it as "an abomination." BUT --
*fortune-telling* ALSO is regarded in the Bible
as an "abomination." So WHY are you on the
case of homosexuality, but NOT condemning
the playing with Tarot Cards and Ouija Boards
with EQUAL vigor? Don't you know what a
**hypocrite** is?

SO --- people having average and above intelligence
*would* ask those questions that the RRR cultists DON'T
ask. And they'd do it in a heartbeat!

The fact that the lemmings DON'T challenge their
leaders with those highly-relevant questions is probably
the STRONGEST evidence of their limited mentality.

UNLESS one happened to be an *anomalous* person
having a combination of intelligence AND a desire to be
control-freakish toward people in the course of supporting
IRRATIONAL agendas... being an RRR cultist is the LAST
thing that any sensible and relatively-intelligent person
would ever want to be. The RRR's agendas not only are
unreasonable and repressive, but they ALSO are utterly
irrational, absurd, and downright ludicrous. Worst of all,
many of those agendas (such as the Anti-Choice regarding
abortion, and anti-EQUAL-rights for gays agendas... are
loathsomely anti-social and HATEFUL.

Until a reliable survey makes a determination otherwise,
which I doubt will happen, I'm betting that the *average*
IQ of RRR Cult lemmings is 80 or so, and more likely lower.
The cult's leaders deliberately target them, need them, and
successfully CON them. And *keep* them conned. Their
SOURCE of those lemmings has to be from the under-85
group. And that gives them 15% of the population to
target. They HAVE 11 million. Their TARGET group
contains (of people over 10 years of age) 33 million.

And THAT brings us to the question that is asked by the
subject header:

"WHY does repressively *controlling* people APPEAL
to so many *IGNORANT* people?"

Why don't those people, *despite* their usually-low IQs,
see how HATEFUL the RRR Cult's agendas are... and simply
*reject* them on THAT basis?

SOMETHING in those (or most of those) people must find
**controlling** other people appealing. Lack of self-esteem,
perhaps? Some sort of perceived need to "BE somebody?"
(But... *what* a thing to be!!)

[[[ READERS: We already *know* what we can
expect from the lemmings, in response to this.
But I *welcome* the input and further specula-
tion regarding these points from thoughtful and
sensible readers. ]]]

I am pro-choice, Craig. If people choose to be some other way than the
way you want them to be, then I think they should be allowed to do it.
For instance, if an unborn baby

should be allowed to live.

She doesn't know my situation because she doesn't feel the need to go
looking into other people's business like you do.