Religions > Bible > Sanctity of Human Life Week in Honor of President Bush
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"Dr. James Slaughter" |
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20 Jan 2005 01:53:53 PM |
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Sanctity of Human Life Week in Honor of President Bush |
Our radio station is sponsoring Sanctity of Human Life Week, in
honor of the second inauguration of Our Pro Life President,
George W. Bush!
Special Programs all week. If you are in Texas you can listen on
90.9 FM, but everyone in the whole wide world can listen on
www.kcbi,org
--
Dr. James Slaughter, Professor of Creation Science
Criswell Bible Institute, Dallas, Texas
www.criswell.edu
Listen to our 100,000 watt radio station on 90.9 FM in Texas
or online at www.kcbi.org
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Sanctity of Human Life Week in Honor of President Bush |
26 Jan 2005 01:14:07 PM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Mike V." <michaelav@SPAMcox.net> wrote in message
What a great idea.
Killing a 100,000 people to save them.
Well, not, that sort of depends on what the end result is, it seems to me.
How many "combatants"
died during the Civil War and during the First World War. How many
"combatants" and "non-
combatants died durint the Second World War. Would you say that all those
people who died, died
in vain?
It's wrong for you to equate the Iraqi Holocaust with the US Civil War.
The Confederacy was never accused of having nuquluer bombs.
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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| Title: Re: Sanctity of Human Life Week in Honor of President Bush |
26 Jan 2005 03:33:44 PM |
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"Sanders Kaufman" <steveross27@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Mike V." <michaelav@SPAMcox.net> wrote in message
What a great idea.
Killing a 100,000 people to save them.
Well, not, that sort of depends on what the end result is, it seems to
me. How many "combatants"
died during the Civil War and during the First World War. How many
"combatants" and "non-
combatants died durint the Second World War. Would you say that all
those people who died, died
in vain?
It's wrong for you to equate the Iraqi Holocaust with the US Civil War.
The Confederacy was never accused of having nuquluer bombs.
What in the world are you talking about. I did not equate the Iraqi
Holocaust to
the justification for the Civil War. As for having a nuclear bomb, let me
suggest, it is
not the possession of that capability that is the problem, it is whether you
trust that
person or country with that capability. And if you do not trust them with
that capability,
then why should you trust them even if they do not have the capability. No
matter what the
so-called civilized world does to stop the proliferation of nuclear bombs,
the simple fact is
that as each decade passes, more and more countries have that capability,
and more and
more countries will have that capability (if they want it) as the years go
by. The United Nations
Security Council "forced" a soverign country to accept inspectors, because
they thought that
Saddam had WMD's. Well, there is a whole bunch of countries who have
WMD's, with the US
leading the pack. Why didn't they force the United States to accept
inspectors, and tell the United
States to disarm or else. The reason is, the world community "thinks" that
the United States will
act responsible, they did not "think" that Saddam would act responsibly.
I was also simply pointing out that in war people die, and in some wars, a
whole lot of people die.
To equate the number who have or will die in this war, has to be weighed
against those who
have died, and will die. Is there any doubt that during his time in
power Saddam killed, jailed, tortured tens of thousands, if not hundreds of
thousands of his own
people (not to mention those his army were responsible for killing during
their war with Iran,
Kuwait, the Kurds, and those in the south of his country). How many more of
them would have
died had he continued in power. How many would have continued to die if his
sons took over
when he passed away.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Sanctity of Human Life Week in Honor of President Bush |
26 Jan 2005 04:54:35 PM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Sanders Kaufman" <steveross27@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
Why didn't they force the United States to accept inspectors, and tell the
United
States to disarm or else. The reason is, the world community "thinks"
that the United States will
act responsible, they did not "think" that Saddam would act responsibly.
Now that's just dumb.
The rest of the world doesn't *allow* the US to keep it's WMD.
Many fear us because we have it, just as we fear others who have it.
In fact - it's our own posession of WMD that is the greatest incentive for
others to obtain it.
As the War against the People of Iraq has proven - any nation without WMD
cannot keep the US from occupying their nation, slaughtering their people,
scattering their police and army and torturing their innocent civillians...
to death.
They do not, as you seem to think trust the US to act responsibly.
They'd be fools to think that.
How many would have continued to die if his sons took over when he passed
away.
Not as many as have been dying in Africa with *their* civil wars - that's
for sure.
You seem to have become confused.
The War against the People of Iraq was *not* a human rights mission.
The US killed all those innocent people because they they thought they were
gonna launch a nuquuluure first-strike... and 'cause they thought they were
crazed bloodthirsty Muslims.
Clearly, that faith-based fear was misplaced.
They were just a bunch of innocent people starving in the desert, victims of
economic state-sponsored terrorism.
If the US were in the business of overthrowing tyrannical regimes that
slaughter their own people - they'd be ALL OVER Africa.
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"The connection is that they're in the region where terrorists are come
from." - GWB
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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| Title: Re: Sanctity of Human Life Week in Honor of President Bush |
26 Jan 2005 07:23:10 PM |
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"Sanders Kaufman" <steveross27@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Sanders Kaufman" <steveross27@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
Why didn't they force the United States to accept inspectors, and tell
the United
States to disarm or else. The reason is, the world community "thinks"
that the United States will
act responsible, they did not "think" that Saddam would act responsibly.
Now that's just dumb.
The rest of the world doesn't *allow* the US to keep it's WMD.
Many fear us because we have it, just as we fear others who have it.
In fact - it's our own posession of WMD that is the greatest incentive for
others to obtain it.
So? What is the purpose of the UN? Let me suggest the purpose of the UN is
to
create an environment where world peace is a possibility (a task they do a
lousy job
of I might add). If they believe that the US is a threat to world peace,
then it just seems
to me, that they should have to balls to do something about it. To do
nothing is basically
abdicating their primary responsibility....that is if they believe the US is
a threat to
world peace, which I am sure some in the UN feel.
As the War against the People of Iraq has proven - any nation without WMD
cannot keep the US from occupying their nation, slaughtering their people,
scattering their police and army and torturing their innocent
civillians... to death.
That is a true statement. Countries have a tendency to look out for their
own self
interest ahead of anyone else. And countries with the power, tend to want
to keep
that power. Of course having said that, the US was able to easily conquer a
country
like Iraq, without using WMD's. And even had a country, like Iraq had
WMD's, by
which I mean a nuclear capability, they are no match for the nuclear
capability of the US,
and would never be able to match the nuclear capability of the US. The
problem as I have
argued in the past, is not the nuclear capability, but would they use that
capability.
They do not, as you seem to think trust the US to act responsibly.
They'd be fools to think that.
The US is no different that any other country. If they can and they feel
the need, they will act
in their own self interest.
How many would have continued to die if his sons took over when he passed
away.
Not as many as have been dying in Africa with *their* civil wars - that's
for sure.
Changing the subject? Okay, let us tackle that anyway. Let me suggest that
the world
was rightfully condemned by ignoring the plight of the jews during the
Second World War.
Let me further suggest, the world allowed Saddam to continue abusing and
killing his own
people for decades, while the world stood idly by, allowing that to happen,
even though
the world knew what was happening. And yes, people are dying in Africa, and
once again
the world is sitting on the sidelines, unwilling to do anything to stop the
carnage. What kind of
compasion is that? While the UN talks about the problem in the Sudan,
people in the Sudan
are dying, and will continue to die. Sometimes, the world needs to do more
than talk, and act.
You seem to have become confused.
The War against the People of Iraq was *not* a human rights mission.
The US killed all those innocent people because they they thought they
were gonna launch a nuquuluure first-strike... and 'cause they thought
they were crazed bloodthirsty Muslims.
Clearly, that faith-based fear was misplaced.
They were just a bunch of innocent people starving in the desert, victims
of economic state-sponsored terrorism.
I do not really much care what the reason was. I am old enough to know that
President's, more often than not, give us a story to justify their actions,
that they think will
convince us to support their policy. In my lifetime, we went to war with
Japan, on the premise
they attacked us. Of course any study of the events leading up to that
attack, would give
anyone pause to think about what made the Japanese feel that their backs
were against the wall
and that the only option was to attack. And while we proclaimed nutrality,
we stopped selling them scrap metal,
did everything possible to stop the flow of oil to their country, sent US
miliary personnel to fight along side
the Chinese. We went to war with North Korea because they invaded the
south. Was this country attacked?
No. We went to war in Vietnam because some policy types believed in the
Domino Theory and
because we were fighting the cold war. We invaded Hait a number of times,
were they ever a threat
to the US. We went to war in Panama. What was the reason given for that
adventure? Because the
leader of that country was aiding the drug trade. We invaded Greneda,
because we had American
citizens who were in danger. We got involved in Somalia and Lebanon, for
reason that escape me now. We went to war with Yugoslavia. What was the
reason given? The reason
given was that we had to act because if might get us involved in a wider war
in Europe. What do
you think the odds of that happening were. Oh yeh, we also got invovled in
the war in Yugoslavia, because
the "moslems" were being slaughtered....sound familiar? The list is
endless.
If the US were in the business of overthrowing tyrannical regimes that
slaughter their own people - they'd be ALL OVER Africa.
We just may be. And I would be in favor of that as well. Regardless of who
is President.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Sanctity of Human Life Week in Honor of President Bush |
27 Jan 2005 02:39:32 AM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Sanders Kaufman" <steveross27@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
How many would have continued to die if his sons took over when he
passed away.
Not as many as have been dying in Africa with *their* civil wars - that's
for sure.
Changing the subject? Okay, let us tackle that anyway. Let me suggest
that
Nope - just trying to keep up with the varying excuses for the War against
Iraq.
the world
was rightfully condemned by ignoring the plight of the jews during the
Second World War.
Actually, the Holocaust was not condemned, nor even widely known until AFTER
the war.
Let me further suggest, the world allowed Saddam to continue abusing and
killing his own
people for decades, while the world stood idly by, allowing that to
happen,
Yeah - makes you wonder why the African people, who are so much more
brutalized, are ignored by the west.
Why do you suppose the Bush Regime stands idly by while the African
continent is being emptied of human life?
God knows - conditions have been worse in Africa than in Iraq during the
same period.
They were just a bunch of innocent people starving in the desert, victims
of economic state-sponsored terrorism.
I do not really much care what the reason was. I am old enough to know
that
President's, more often than not, give us a story to justify their
actions, that they think will
Well, if you're just willing to sit back and be lied to - there's not much
point in speaking truth to you.
A'dios.
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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27 Jan 2005 01:07:37 PM |
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"Sanders Kaufman" <steveross27@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Sanders Kaufman" <steveross27@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
How many would have continued to die if his sons took over when he
passed away.
Not as many as have been dying in Africa with *their* civil wars -
that's for sure.
Changing the subject? Okay, let us tackle that anyway. Let me suggest
that
Nope - just trying to keep up with the varying excuses for the War against
Iraq.
No, what you are engaged in is what politicians and their advocates do to us
all the time,
if they have no answer to the statements that are posed, they do not answer
that statement
directly...they only answer the part of the statement they wish to answer.
the world
was rightfully condemned by ignoring the plight of the jews during the
Second World War.
Actually, the Holocaust was not condemned, nor even widely known until
AFTER the war.
Read you history.
Let me further suggest, the world allowed Saddam to continue abusing and
killing his own
people for decades, while the world stood idly by, allowing that to
happen,
Yeah - makes you wonder why the African people, who are so much more
brutalized, are ignored by the west.
Why do you suppose the Bush Regime stands idly by while the African
continent is being emptied of human life?
God knows - conditions have been worse in Africa than in Iraq during the
same period.
American President's, all of them, have ignored the plight of not only the
African
people but also a whole bunch of other people around the globe. It has very
little to
do with whether that President is a democrat or a republican. The African
continent has
been a basket case of as long as I can remember. Since that time, we have
had many
President's, both democrats and republicans. Have any of them adopted any
policy that
has changed the situation that exist in that continent. The answer is NO.
For that matter, has the
UN solved any of these festuring problems.
They were just a bunch of innocent people starving in the desert,
victims of economic state-sponsored terrorism.
I do not really much care what the reason was. I am old enough to know
that
President's, more often than not, give us a story to justify their
actions, that they think will
Well, if you're just willing to sit back and be lied to - there's not much
point in speaking truth to you.
Simply stating the historical fact.
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| User: "Rich Wood" |
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26 Jan 2005 03:33:39 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:49:27 GMT, Brother Keith
<brotherkeith2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
Our President Bush has save the lives of the thousands of Iraqs that
would of been killed and tortured in Saddams prisons and rape rooms.
Good God! I'm beginning to beieve the US Postal Service is supported,
almost entirely, by deliveries of mail order Pastor, Minister,
Brother, Sister and Televevangelist degrees.
Why do none of these religious zealots reveal their credentials? My
clergy friends are very proud to show me their credentials that show
years of heavy duty study in major Divinity Schools. Like Doctors,
they post them on their walls. I have friends with Harvard and Yale
divinity degrees and they split a gut when I show them the messages
that show up here.
I'll even accept "Brother Keith, J.E.R.K." so long as you tell us
where you were educated, so I know which schools offer J.E.R.K.
degrees. I'll even accept Criswell. I lived in Dallas, where they're
located, so I have some sort of guide as to the quality and depth of
the curriculum.
One other thing: you have no way of knowing how many people would have
been tortured or raped, so your premise is false. I don't believe we
have a count of previous victims on which to base a statistically
acceptable prediction.
I'm also wondering what's so appealing about alt.radio.broadcasting
that attracts them.
Rich
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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26 Jan 2005 04:54:30 PM |
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"Rich Wood" <richbwood@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:49:27 GMT, Brother Keith
<brotherkeith2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm also wondering what's so appealing about alt.radio.broadcasting
that attracts them.
AM Talk Radio hosts are using Usenet to research how to react to different
arguments.
So do DNC and RNC consultants.
They pay good money for people who can aggregate all this inane banter.
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| User: "David" |
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26 Jan 2005 09:53:32 AM |
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So our totrure prisons and rape rooms are better than Saddam's?
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:49:27 GMT, Brother Keith
<brotherkeith2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
Our President Bush has save the lives of the thousands of Iraqs that
would of been killed and tortured in Saddams prisons and rape rooms.
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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26 Jan 2005 12:37:32 PM |
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Absolutely.
"David" <rickets@knac.com> wrote in message
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So our totrure prisons and rape rooms are better than Saddam's?
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:49:27 GMT, Brother Keith
<brotherkeith2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
Our President Bush has save the lives of the thousands of Iraqs that
would of been killed and tortured in Saddams prisons and rape rooms.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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26 Jan 2005 01:14:09 PM |
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And they express their gratitude daily - sending a few more of your sons and
daughters home in coffinc, wheelchairs and stretchers.
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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Absolutely.
"David" <rickets@knac.com> wrote in message
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So our totrure prisons and rape rooms are better than Saddam's?
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:49:27 GMT, Brother Keith
<brotherkeith2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
Our President Bush has save the lives of the thousands of Iraqs that
would of been killed and tortured in Saddams prisons and rape rooms.
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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26 Jan 2005 03:37:53 PM |
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No, "some" are not very happy about what has happened in that region, and
they are expressing that feeling by the actions they take. What do you
expect?
If someone "occupied" the United States, don't you believe that there will
be
some in this country who would fight back, in any way they could. The Irish
fought
the English, Pakistan and India have been in a virtual state of war for
decades, Israel
and the Palestinians have been in a state of war for decades, Civil war is
common in Africa,
need I continue?
"Sanders Kaufman" <steveross27@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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And they express their gratitude daily - sending a few more of your sons
and daughters home in coffinc, wheelchairs and stretchers.
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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Absolutely.
"David" <rickets@knac.com> wrote in message
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So our totrure prisons and rape rooms are better than Saddam's?
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:49:27 GMT, Brother Keith
<brotherkeith2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
Our President Bush has save the lives of the thousands of Iraqs that
would of been killed and tortured in Saddams prisons and rape rooms.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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26 Jan 2005 04:54:38 PM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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No, "some" are not very happy about what has happened in that region, and
they are expressing that feeling by the actions they take. What do you
expect?
Like everyone else (you'd think) I would expect them to interrupt the
upcoming American elections in Iraq.
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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| Title: Re: Sanctity of Human Life Week in Honor of President Bush |
26 Jan 2005 07:23:53 PM |
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"Sanders Kaufman" <steveross27@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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No, "some" are not very happy about what has happened in that region, and
they are expressing that feeling by the actions they take. What do you
expect?
Like everyone else (you'd think) I would expect them to interrupt the
upcoming American elections in Iraq.
Huh?
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