SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD



 Religions > Bible > SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD

LINK TO THIS PAGE  


rating :  0   |  0


  Page 1 of 1

1

 
Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
Date: 24 Jan 2008 06:10:28 PM
Object: SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD
Shall we compare body counts in the bible?
Let's see, the loving, caring christian god character drowned the whole
world, killed the firstborn of Egypt as well as its army after a devastating
series of plagues, ordered and personally participated in the slaughter of
countless individuals during a genocidal rampage of his chosen people,
fathered a
son specifically to be killed, and personally tortured a poor slob named
Job on a bet, and don't forget about demanding that Abraham MURDER his only
son.
The dreaded satan character did... Uhh... I don't know. I suppose he might
have killed someone at some point, but I'm not sure.
The satan character is a sweetheart compared to the evil monster
COLD-HEARTED ***** character called the christian god.
.

User: "BRAINIAC"

Title: Re: SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD 27 Jan 2008 03:34:48 AM
On 25 Jan, 00:10, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <kill...@killgod.com>
wrote:

Shall we compare body counts in the bible?

=A0Let's see, the loving, caring christian god character drowned the whole=
world, killed the firstborn of Egypt as well as its army after a devastati=

ng

series of plagues, ordered and personally participated in the slaughter of=
countless individuals during a genocidal rampage of his chosen people,
fathered a
=A0son specifically to be killed, and personally tortured a poor slob name=

d

=A0Job on a bet, and don't forget about demanding that Abraham MURDER his =

only

son.

And lets not forget the question, where did he get those clothes of
animal skins that he gave to Adam and Eve?


=A0The dreaded satan character did... Uhh... I don't know. I suppose he mi=

ght

=A0have killed someone at some point, but I'm not sure.

=A0The satan character is a sweetheart compared to the evil monster
COLD-HEARTED ***** character called the christian god.

.

User: "Scott H"

Title: Re: SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD 25 Jan 2008 08:11:52 AM
On Jan 24, 7:10=A0pm, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <kill...@killgod.com>
wrote:

Shall we compare body counts in the bible?

=A0Let's see, the loving, caring christian god character drowned the whole=
world,

We are told that He was upset about the increasing corruption on
Earth.

killed the firstborn of Egypt as well as its army after a devastating
series of plagues, ordered and personally participated in the slaughter of=
countless individuals during a genocidal rampage of his chosen people,

I didn't like reading about that either.

fathered a
=A0son specifically to be killed,

In what passage are we told that Jesus was born specifically to be
crucified?

and personally tortured a poor slob named
=A0Job on a bet,

Let's be fair here: God gave back Job everything he had, plus more.

and don't forget about demanding that Abraham MURDER his only
son.

=A0The dreaded satan character did... Uhh... I don't know. I suppose he mi=

ght

=A0have killed someone at some point, but I'm not sure.

=A0The satan character is a sweetheart compared to the evil monster
COLD-HEARTED ***** character called the christian god.

One of my biggest qualms with Christianity and relating religions is
"the Satan." Who is Satan, and what is his intellectual attitude
toward the world? We are told that he tried to raise his throne to the
height of God's, and that he is the profoundly evil enemy of God and
all mankind. But *why* would he hate us? Is there a specific aspect of
the world that Satan dislikes? Again, who is Satan?
.
User: "Harold Saxon"

Title: Re: SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD 25 Jan 2008 08:26:58 AM
On 25 Jan, 14:11, Scott H <zinites_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Jan 24, 7:10=A0pm, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <kill...@killgod.com>
wrote:

Shall we compare body counts in the bible?


=A0Let's see, the loving, caring christian god character drowned the who=

le

world,


We are told that He was upset about the increasing corruption on
Earth.

killed the firstborn of Egypt as well as its army after a devastating
series of plagues, ordered and personally participated in the slaughter =

of

countless individuals during a genocidal rampage of his chosen people,


I didn't like reading about that either.

fathered a
=A0son specifically to be killed,


In what passage are we told that Jesus was born specifically to be
crucified?

According to the Christian point of view the whole of Isaiah 53
foretells the persecution and death of Jesus.
Also there are a number of passages in the Gospels where Jesus tells
his Apostles that this is going to happen to him.
So it was preordained, and even when he is praying before the event,
he asks God to spare him this situation if possible.
But of course he has to go through with it.


and personally tortured a poor slob named
=A0Job on a bet,


Let's be fair here: God gave back Job everything he had, plus more.

Maybe so, but look at all that unnecessary suffering, caused by Satan
and God seeing how far Job could be pushed before he would curse God
rather than praise him.


and don't forget about demanding that Abraham MURDER his only
son.


=A0The dreaded satan character did... Uhh... I don't know. I suppose he =

might

=A0have killed someone at some point, but I'm not sure.


=A0The satan character is a sweetheart compared to the evil monster
COLD-HEARTED ***** character called the christian god.


One of my biggest qualms with Christianity and relating religions is
"the Satan." Who is Satan, and what is his intellectual attitude
toward the world? We are told that he tried to raise his throne to the
height of God's, and that he is the profoundly evil enemy of God and
all mankind. But *why* would he hate us? Is there a specific aspect of
the world that Satan dislikes? Again, who is Satan?

As I have been told in my Christian upbringing, Satan is another name
for Lucifer, and this fellow was one of the highest of the high in the
ranks of the angels in Heaven.
And apparently he thought that he was better than God and persuaded
about one third of the other angels to follow him instead of God.
A massive battle erupts, the good guys win, and the bad guys are
thrown down, some say into hell others that they were cast down on the
earth.
Either way, instead of controlling these pesky angels gone bad, God
lets them roam around doing bad things.
I guess he is "the Master" to God's "the Doctor", although I suspect
the roles are actually reversed.
.
User: "Chief Thracian"

Title: Re: SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD 25 Jan 2008 03:23:46 PM
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:26:58 -0800 (PST), Harold Saxon
<saxon.harold@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

As I have been told in my Christian upbringing, Satan is another name
for Lucifer, and this fellow was one of the highest of the high in the
ranks of the angels in Heaven.

The Origin Of Evil (or "I Love Lucifer")
by
Ezekiel J. Krahlin (Jehovah's Queer Witness)
Once upon a time--long long before Adam & Steve were created--Jehovah
realized that the universe could never be complete without something
called "evil". He tried to explain this to the Host of Angels (his
only companions at that early time; though numbering in the hundreds),
but they were all confused and aghast at this shocking concept. All
that is, but one: Lucifer. When the Big Cheese saw that only Little
Lucy was not aghast (but simply confused) he called him into his inner
chamber, where they could be alone. (Archangel Gaybriel served them
each a pot of lavender tea before departing behind the curtains.)
"Hey Little Buddy," declares the Good Master, "why aren't you also
shocked by my proclamation?" To which Lucky replies: "My Father, of
course I am confused, but I'd never be judging you. After all, you're
our Creator...so even if I don't comprehend one of your decisions, I
still trust you. I could never conceive of you ever doing any
wrong...even though this is the FIRST TIME I have become perplexed by
anything you've ever said or done."
Jehovah contemplatively sips his tea, then leans forward. "You don't
really grasp what evil is all about, do you?"
"Of course not." shrugs Lucifer, "This is the first time I've ever
heard of such a thing. And it does what, you say? Distorts truth and
makes intelligent beings feel bad, and do wrong?"
"Why don't I give you a visual?" resolves YHVH, who then projects a
holographic scene that hovers between the two.
Therein, Lucifer witnesses the awesome advent of evil upon a newly
created species called "man". Wherein Lucifer weeps for the first
time, some sparkly tears dropping into the teacup (which by the way is
the primal origin of the Holy Grail). Lucy dries his eyes with the hem
of his sleeve, and exclaims, "Oh, my father, what terrible betrayal.
How could you wish such forces unleashed in any universe? But I can
only trust your decisions, and offer to serve you in this outcome, as
best I can. For as much as I abhor this new energy entering the
cosmos, that you call 'evil'...I also understand that it is a
necessary process in spritual evolution towards perfection. That
without any evil in this world, humans would never be challenged to
become the true hero that dwells within each and every soul." Lucifer
then takes a deep breath and sets down his cup. "Okay, Dad. How can I
help you in this terrible mission?"
So with great sorrow and pride, Jehovah requests that Lucifer play the
role of Master of Evil. This time around, Lucy is indeed terribly
shocked, and lowers his head in shame and sorrow for some moments;
then looks up and into the eyes of His Father, to say: "I will do
this, only because if I didn't, you'd be alone to carry this out. I
wish to relieve your burdens as much as possible. For I do love you
much!"
Jehovah took him up into his strong arms. "You are the only one of my
angels who has never lacked in any way, complete faith in my plans.
For that, I make you The Devil Himself, that you may tempt man to go
astray. And in so tempting, each is offered the chance to resist
temptation, and become a hero in overthrowing your seductions. You
will be vilified, scapegoated, and ultimately despised by all but a
few wise folks. Indeed, not until the end of this First Cycle of
Creation, will the wrongs against you be righted, and will you be
celebrated as My Most Beloved First Born."
Having agreed to be partners in this Great Mission, Lucifer calls
together a meeting of all the angels, and presents his case: to usurp
the Creator and run the show ourselves. He is very persuasive, thanks
to a gilded tongue, and manages to convince a third of the angelic
host. War breaks out. So Lucifer dutifully plays out his incredible
roles through history, including one of his "time out" past lives,
where he is willfully sacrificed on a cross, to reaffirm his total
devotion to One who asked of him this awesome responsibility. For with
every seduction, Lucky always prays in his heart that you won't be
tempted.
MORAL OF THIS TALE
Evil is a necessary evil.
And if you really love your enemy, then one must also find
a way to love, and forgive, the Ultimate Enemy.
--finis
You may read the ILLUSTRATED version of this tale here:
http://www.gay-bible.org/write/2_evil.htm
--------------------------------------------------------------
Permission granted by author for anyone to distribute this
writing free of charge (including translation into any
language)...under condition that no profit is made therefrom,
and that it remain intact and complete, including title and
credit to the original author.
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
http://www.gay-bible.org
--------------------------------------------------------------
--
Zeke Krahlin
http://www.gay-bible.org
.
User: "Harold Saxon"

Title: Re: SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD 25 Jan 2008 04:34:48 PM
On 25 Jan, 21:23,
(Chief Thracian)
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:26:58 -0800 (PST), Harold Saxon

<saxon.har...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

As I have been told in my Christian upbringing, Satan is another name
for Lucifer, and this fellow was one of the highest of the high in the
ranks of the angels in Heaven.


The Origin Of Evil (or "I Love Lucifer")
by
Ezekiel J. Krahlin (Jehovah's Queer Witness)

Once upon a time--long long before Adam & Steve were created--Jehovah
realized that the universe could never be complete without something
called "evil". He tried to explain this to the Host of Angels (his
only companions at that early time; though numbering in the hundreds),
but they were all confused and aghast at this shocking concept. All
that is, but one: Lucifer. When the Big Cheese saw that only Little
Lucy was not aghast (but simply confused) he called him into his inner
chamber, where they could be alone. (Archangel Gaybriel served them
each a pot of lavender tea before departing behind the curtains.)

"Hey Little Buddy," declares the Good Master, "why aren't you also
shocked by my proclamation?" To which Lucky replies: "My Father, of
course I am confused, but I'd never be judging you. After all, you're
our Creator...so even if I don't comprehend one of your decisions, I
still trust you. I could never conceive of you ever doing any
wrong...even though this is the FIRST TIME I have become perplexed by
anything you've ever said or done."

Jehovah contemplatively sips his tea, then leans forward. "You don't
really grasp what evil is all about, do you?"

"Of course not." shrugs Lucifer, "This is the first time I've ever
heard of such a thing. And it does what, you say? Distorts truth and
makes intelligent beings feel bad, and do wrong?"

"Why don't I give you a visual?" resolves YHVH, who then projects a
holographic scene that hovers between the two.

Therein, Lucifer witnesses the awesome advent of evil upon a newly
created species called "man". Wherein Lucifer weeps for the first
time, some sparkly tears dropping into the teacup (which by the way is
the primal origin of the Holy Grail). Lucy dries his eyes with the hem
of his sleeve, and exclaims, "Oh, my father, what terrible betrayal.
How could you wish such forces unleashed in any universe? But I can
only trust your decisions, and offer to serve you in this outcome, as
best I can. For as much as I abhor this new energy entering the
cosmos, that you call 'evil'...I also understand that it is a
necessary process in spritual evolution towards perfection. That
without any evil in this world, humans would never be challenged to
become the true hero that dwells within each and every soul." Lucifer
then takes a deep breath and sets down his cup. "Okay, Dad. How can I
help you in this terrible mission?"

So with great sorrow and pride, Jehovah requests that Lucifer play the
role of Master of Evil. This time around, Lucy is indeed terribly
shocked, and lowers his head in shame and sorrow for some moments;
then looks up and into the eyes of His Father, to say: "I will do
this, only because if I didn't, you'd be alone to carry this out. I
wish to relieve your burdens as much as possible. For I do love you
much!"

Jehovah took him up into his strong arms. "You are the only one of my
angels who has never lacked in any way, complete faith in my plans.
For that, I make you The Devil Himself, that you may tempt man to go
astray. And in so tempting, each is offered the chance to resist
temptation, and become a hero in overthrowing your seductions. You
will be vilified, scapegoated, and ultimately despised by all but a
few wise folks. Indeed, not until the end of this First Cycle of
Creation, will the wrongs against you be righted, and will you be
celebrated as My Most Beloved First Born."

Having agreed to be partners in this Great Mission, Lucifer calls
together a meeting of all the angels, and presents his case: to usurp
the Creator and run the show ourselves. He is very persuasive, thanks
to a gilded tongue, and manages to convince a third of the angelic
host. War breaks out. So Lucifer dutifully plays out his incredible
roles through history, including one of his "time out" past lives,
where he is willfully sacrificed on a cross, to reaffirm his total
devotion to One who asked of him this awesome responsibility. For with
every seduction, Lucky always prays in his heart that you won't be
tempted.

MORAL OF THIS TALE

Evil is a necessary evil.

And if you really love your enemy, then one must also find
a way to love, and forgive, the Ultimate Enemy.

An interesting angle to say the least, well done in presenting this
rather Alice down the rabbithole view of things.
:)


--finis

You may read the ILLUSTRATED version of this tale here:

http://www.gay-bible.org/write/2_evil.htm

--------------------------------------------------------------
Permission granted by author for anyone to distribute this
writing free of charge (including translation into any
language)...under condition that no profit is made therefrom,
and that it remain intact and complete, including title and
credit to the original author.

Ezekiel J. Krahlinhttp://www.gay-bible.org
--------------------------------------------------------------

--
Zeke Krahlinhttp://www.gay-bible.org

.


User: "Scott H"

Title: Re: SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD 25 Jan 2008 10:50:36 AM
On Jan 25, 9:26=A0am, Harold Saxon <saxon.har...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

And apparently he thought that he was better than God and persuaded
about one third of the other angels to follow him instead of God.

In my opinion, claiming to be better than God is far less excusable
than claiming to be equal to him. Even pantheists define God as the
universe itself, including themselves and all the matter it contains.
I don't feel ready to conclude that the suffering in the world is due
to a being called Satan. However, I do think that the aspect of the
world that is closest to being *that evil* is deliberate selfishness
at another's expense, whose perpetrators I consider to be rather like
the adult versions of the schoolyard bully.
Social Darwinist movements like eugenics are admittedly more complex
than bullying, as its proponents tell us that it will improve our
quality of life, but to some degree it still seems tainted by
selfishness--in this case, the selfishness of the strong and healthy
at the expense of the weak or unhealthy--and we witnessed the violent
extreme of this when Hitler rose to power.
There are many important issues that I think social Darwinists need to
address in their arguments. Among them are: whether such a program
would actually allow the human race to attain its "peak" in evolution,
how long we would be able to remain in such a state, and whether this
"peak stage" of human evolution is ultimately worth the suffering
endured for it. Among one million men, would you torture 999,999 just
so that one could be a superman?
But I don't think anyone should ever be bullied for amusement at all,
particularly when they are made to feel a lot of pain (as I was
shortly after I became religious).
.
User: "Harold Saxon"

Title: Re: SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD 25 Jan 2008 01:29:32 PM
On 25 Jan, 16:50, Scott H <zinites_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Jan 25, 9:26=A0am, Harold Saxon <saxon.har...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

And apparently he thought that he was better than God and persuaded
about one third of the other angels to follow him instead of God.


In my opinion, claiming to be better than God is far less excusable
than claiming to be equal to him. Even pantheists define God as the
universe itself, including themselves and all the matter it contains.

Which particular pantheists are you referring to?


I don't feel ready to conclude that the suffering in the world is due
to a being called Satan. However, I do think that the aspect of the
world that is closest to being *that evil* is deliberate selfishness
at another's expense, whose perpetrators I consider to be rather like
the adult versions of the schoolyard bully.

Suffering as a consequence of natural disasters is part of life no
matter who you are or what you believe.
Suffering as a consequence of the acts of another human being is
actually something that can be stopped.


Social Darwinist movements like eugenics are admittedly more complex
than bullying, as its proponents tell us that it will improve our
quality of life, but to some degree it still seems tainted by
selfishness--in this case, the selfishness of the strong and healthy
at the expense of the weak or unhealthy--and we witnessed the violent
extreme of this when Hitler rose to power.

The eugenics program of Hitler's regime had next to nothing to do with
evolution and everything to do with his personal dream of creating a
master race.
Ironically he would have been disposed of as an "inferior being" if
such a master race had come from the eugenics program he began.


There are many important issues that I think social Darwinists need to
address in their arguments. Among them are: whether such a program
would actually allow the human race to attain its "peak" in evolution,
how long we would be able to remain in such a state, and whether this
"peak stage" of human evolution is ultimately worth the suffering
endured for it. Among one million men, would you torture 999,999 just
so that one could be a superman?

This is what I mean about it having nothing to do with evolution.
Evolution is not about producing a race of supermen but is about life
adapting to the changing environment in which it exists.
And how may I ask does torturing 999,999 people produce 1 superman?


But I don't think anyone should ever be bullied for amusement at all,
particularly when they are made to feel a lot of pain (as I was
shortly after I became religious).

Actually you will find that most bullies hide behind the mask of
religion, because all bullies suffer from lack of self confidence,
have very weak egos, and are actually the biggest cowards under the
sun.
I had one rule when I was at school, if the bully picked on me, I
fought back.
After which they either avoided me, or became my friends.
That may sound cruel but it was at the time the only way to break the
cycle of violence.
.
User: "Scott H"

Title: Re: SATAN IS A LOT NICER THAN THE COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD 25 Jan 2008 07:06:43 PM
On Jan 25, 2:29=A0pm, Harold Saxon <saxon.har...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

And how may I ask does torturing 999,999 people produce 1 superman?

I'm not claiming that it does. The limitation of the rights of some
for the quicker advancement of others is a presumption of the
eugenicist argument.
.






  Page 1 of 1

1

 


Related Articles
THE"EVIL" SATAN VERSUS THE "LOVING,C ARING" COLD-HEARTED ***** CHRISTIAN GOD
COMPARING BODY COUNTS - "EVIL SATAN" VERSUS "LOVING, CARING CHRISTIAN GOD"
COMPARING BODY COUNTS IN THE BIBLE, THE "EVIL" SATAN VERSUS THE "LOVING, CARING" CHRISTIAN GOD
COMPARING BODY COUNTS - SATAN VS. THE LOVING, CARING CHRISTIAN GOD
The Masonic Order Satan's little helpers? No Mason is Saved and thus, not a Christian!!!!!!!!
SATAN VERSUS THE LOVING, CARING CHRISTIAN GOD
Re: Satan wants Christian to have the image of the cross
the loving, caring christian god vs. satan -who's the real ***** ?
The Masonic Order Satan's little helpers? No Mason is Saved and thus, not a Christian!!!!!!!!
COMPARING BODY COUNTS - SATAN VERSUS THE "LOVING, CARING" CHRISTIAN GOD
Re: Please, Tell Me Why You Hate America, Americans, Jesus, and God so much you worship Bush and Satan
Re: AMERICA IS GREAT satan
Volleyball is EVIL, it's the sport of SATAN ! ! !
DN Satan's Conqueror 12/30/2004
What Satan does not want you to know!
 

NEWER

pg.1232     pg.940     pg.716     pg.544     pg.412     pg.311     pg.234     pg.175     pg.130     pg.96     pg.70     pg.50     pg.35     pg.24     pg.16     pg.10     pg.6     pg.3     pg.1

OLDER