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29 Oct 2006 07:49:29 PM |
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Satanic teachings in public schools |
I vaguely remember being taught evolution in science classes, but one
of the nagging memories I have from high school is the clearly biased
teaching on "Divine Authority," in Social Studies courses. Does anyone
else remember how certain monarchs were talked about condescendingly
for their belief that they ruled by appointment of God? I clearly went
along with my teachers, and believed for the longest time that this was
a perverted belief that lead to tyranny. However, since I have became
saved I now realize that all authority comes from God above. See:
Romans 13:1, John 19:11, ect. There appears to be more ways than one
that the devil has infiltrated our public schools.
Thank you,
-posterguy
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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29 Oct 2006 08:23:53 PM |
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people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING
COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
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| User: "Gatekeeper" |
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29 Oct 2006 09:39:52 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING
COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be a matched
pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back from falling off of
a roof, have his spine healed so that he could get up out of a sick
bed where he had lain for three years. The Dr. said he would never be
able to get up again, but then God apparently had other plans! He is
80 years old now and still going strong!
The Eastgate is open, the King is in Residence! Whosoever Will, may
come in!
Gatekeeper
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| User: "Ralph" |
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30 Oct 2006 11:25:50 AM |
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"Gatekeeper" <gatekeeper.eastgate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1gq9wtombung$.7d9afvvna561$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING
COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be a matched
pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back from falling off of
a roof, have his spine healed so that he could get up out of a sick
bed where he had lain for three years. The Dr. said he would never be
able to get up again, but then God apparently had other plans! He is
80 years old now and still going strong!
The Eastgate is open, the King is in Residence! Whosoever Will, may
come in!
Gatekeeper
To which one can only say, *****!
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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30 Oct 2006 05:39:35 PM |
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has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be a matched
pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back from falling off of
a roof, have his spine healed so that he could get up out of a sick
bed where he had lain for three years. The Dr. said he would never be
able to get up again, but then God apparently had other plans! He is
80 years old now and still going strong!
LMAO, you are so full of it, it is incredible, I do wonder why none of these
"miracles" made the newspaper
LOL.
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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30 Oct 2006 06:03:43 PM |
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SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be a matched
pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back from falling off of
a roof, have his spine healed so that he could get up out of a sick
bed where he had lain for three years. The Dr. said he would never be
able to get up again, but then God apparently had other plans! He is
80 years old now and still going strong!
LMAO, you are so full of it, it is incredible, I do wonder why none of these
"miracles" made the newspaper
Probably for the same reason jesus didn't.
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| User: "gatekeeper" |
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31 Oct 2006 12:45:57 AM |
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SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be a matched
pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back from falling off of
a roof, have his spine healed so that he could get up out of a sick
bed where he had lain for three years. The Dr. said he would never be
able to get up again, but then God apparently had other plans! He is
80 years old now and still going strong!
LMAO, you are so full of it, it is incredible, I do wonder why none of these
"miracles" made the newspaper
LOL.
Miracles are not for the newspaper, or for you to mock! They are for
the person that experiences the miracle. I do not believe that God
intended miracles to be used to set up some sort of healing platform (
you already ask me about Benny Hinn, etc.) I do not see in the story
of Jesus, where He made a big deal out of healing a blind person. He
healed the blind person because He Loved them and He wanted them to be
able to see! He did not do this for notoriety, or newspapers, or
curiosity seekers! He did not do these things inorder to prove who He
was either! That really drove the nay-Sayers nanny, cause He would not
play their games with them!
By your response to this story, it goes to show, that even when you
hear of someone being healed, instead of trully caring for them, and
being glad that at least this one was healed, you still mock God! That
is ok with me, it does not stop me from praying for folks, and seeing
sick people get well, it just convinces me that there is nothing to be
gained by notifying the newspapers, and telling folks like you! You
choose not to believe, which is your right to choose, and I choose not
to share the specifics with you! The specifics were for the person who
was healed, not you and any need you may have to ventilate!
Now the man who had his spine healed, he will be glad to talk to you,
or any phone pole about his healing! I know, because I have spent
enough time around him, to know that he is not afraid to share with
anyone! Now being a farmer from way back, he would just as soon plow
you over, as be able to carry on a delicate, nice conversation! He is
not mean, he just gets excited! So if you would like to talk to him, I
expect I could arrange that if you email me your phone number!
The Eastgate is Open, the King is in Residence! Whosoever Will, may
come in!
Gatekeeper
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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31 Oct 2006 07:18:02 PM |
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"gatekeeper" <gatekeeper.eastgate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162277157.070281.312010@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be a matched
pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back from falling off of
a roof, have his spine healed so that he could get up out of a sick
bed where he had lain for three years. The Dr. said he would never be
able to get up again, but then God apparently had other plans! He is
80 years old now and still going strong!
LMAO, you are so full of it, it is incredible, I do wonder why none of
these
"miracles" made the newspaper
LOL.
Miracles are not for the newspaper, or for you to mock! They are
a crock of *****.
was it a miracle when andrea yates MURDERED her children and the christian
sky pixie laughed his ***** off and watched the show while her kids were being
killed ?
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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31 Oct 2006 09:27:08 PM |
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gatekeeper wrote:
Now the man who had his spine healed, he will be glad to talk to you,
or any phone pole about his healing! I know, because I have spent
enough time around him, to know that he is not afraid to share with
anyone! Now being a farmer from way back, he would just as soon plow
you over, as be able to carry on a delicate, nice conversation! He is
not mean, he just gets excited! So if you would like to talk to him, I
expect I could arrange that if you email me your phone number!
Oh, *****. I saw that gag in an old Abbott and Costello movie.
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| User: "Alric Knebel" |
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30 Oct 2006 06:50:19 AM |
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Gatekeeper wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING
COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be a matched
pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back from falling off of
a roof, have his spine healed so that he could get up out of a sick
bed where he had lain for three years. The Dr. said he would never be
able to get up again, but then God apparently had other plans! He is
80 years old now and still going strong!
Oh, man. Here we go. Get the shovel. Those stories even SOUND
made-up: "he was laid out on a SICK BED for THREE YEARS." "Three
years," the magic number. And "sick bed." What a pretentious twit.
You're either a tent revivalist or some other con man. Hey, you crooked
ape, not everyone is as stupid as the rubes you gather in your carnival
tent.
Or maybe YOU'RE a rube, yourself.
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Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
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| User: "Alan Connor" |
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31 Oct 2006 03:05:57 AM |
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On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kbt8ddd59feb4@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Gatekeeper wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
wrote:
people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING,
CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be
a matched pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back
from falling off of a roof, have his spine healed so that he
could get up out of a sick bed where he had lain for three
years. The Dr. said he would never be able to get up again,
but then God apparently had other plans! He is 80 years old
now and still going strong!
Oh, man. Here we go. Get the shovel. Those stories even
SOUND made-up: "he was laid out on a SICK BED for THREE YEARS."
"Three years," the magic number. And "sick bed." What a
pretentious twit. You're either a tent revivalist or some
other con man. Hey, you crooked ape, not everyone is as stupid
as the rubes you gather in your carnival tent.
Or maybe YOU'RE a rube, yourself.
So you _know_ those stories are made up? Are you psychic? Have
you carefully investigated them like a scientist would before
passing judgement?
You ought to research "spontaneous remission". That's where
people who have a dreadful disease like cancer, and are near
death, quickly become completely healthy. It's a scientifically
recognized, and unexplained, phenomenon.
If that can happen, why not the things described above?
If you respond with more juvenile insults, I'm going to know that
you are nothing but another ignorant, snot-nosed punk running his
mouth on the Usenet, and I'll killfile you.
Alan
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http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/contact.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/survival/index.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/linux-unix/index.html
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| User: "Alric Knebel" |
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01 Nov 2006 05:14:50 PM |
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Alan Connor wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kbt8ddd59feb4@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Gatekeeper wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
wrote:
people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING,
CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be
a matched pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back
from falling off of a roof, have his spine healed so that he
could get up out of a sick bed where he had lain for three
years. The Dr. said he would never be able to get up again,
but then God apparently had other plans! He is 80 years old
now and still going strong!
Oh, man. Here we go. Get the shovel. Those stories even
SOUND made-up: "he was laid out on a SICK BED for THREE YEARS."
"Three years," the magic number. And "sick bed." What a
pretentious twit. You're either a tent revivalist or some
other con man. Hey, you crooked ape, not everyone is as stupid
as the rubes you gather in your carnival tent.
Or maybe YOU'RE a rube, yourself.
So you _know_ those stories are made up? Are you psychic? Have
you carefully investigated them like a scientist would before
passing judgement?
You don't need to be a scientist to investigate these things. As a
person who went to a lot of different churches, I've heard of people
praying to be spared from cancer, and they died of it anyway. I've also
heard some of these tent revivalists claim to have seen "a leg grow."
More than one. However, I never actually have met anyone who actually
saw it themselves. In other words, the revivalist, whom I equate to a
carnival barker, is selling a claim to intrigue his rubes. After a
while, you recognize the popularity of these claims, as they seem to be
most affective on the gullible. There's the promise of seeing something
amazing, so the rubes fill the tent.
You ought to research "spontaneous remission". That's where
people who have a dreadful disease like cancer, and are near
death, quickly become completely healthy. It's a scientifically
recognized, and unexplained, phenomenon.
"Spontaneous remission" doesn't have anything to do with religion, and
everything to do with attitude. It's scientifically recognized not as a
"miracle" (such as growing a leg) but as the consequence of an attitude
change. It just so happens that some people use religion to get a
positive attitude, and other people use something else. It all works
out the same.
If that can happen, why not the things described above?
Because you can't grow a leg, and polio is permanent. All the attitude
in the world won't change that, because of the nature of the illness.
When you've seen it with your own two eyes, let me know. But I've heard
the claim before and now when I hear it, I know it's just a common claim
of conmen, like the crying statues of Jesus and Mary. Cancer is
different. Cancer is an affliction that is in flux at all times, and
your body can become stronger under certain conditions and fight it off.
Polio is immediate and final, like having your arm cut off. Like I
said, when you see any of this with your own two eyes (and, please,
spare me the doubting-Thomas comparisons, because I actually have faith;
I just know con-jobs when I hear it), let me know. In fact, do you have
any stories like that, things you saw with your own two eyes? Now,
don't tell me about your aunt who had cancer and from the brink of
death, she recovered. That's part of the NATURAL process. Tell me
stories of undeniable supernatural altering of deformed physical flesh
that you've seen yourself.
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Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
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| User: "Alan Connor" |
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02 Nov 2006 01:03:35 AM |
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On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kiajgfljs07a2@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Alan Connor wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kbt8ddd59feb4@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Gatekeeper wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
wrote:
people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING,
CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god has the
jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be
a matched pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back
from falling off of a roof, have his spine healed so that he
could get up out of a sick bed where he had lain for three
years. The Dr. said he would never be able to get up again,
but then God apparently had other plans! He is 80 years old
now and still going strong!
Oh, man. Here we go. Get the shovel. Those stories even
SOUND made-up: "he was laid out on a SICK BED for THREE
YEARS." "Three years," the magic number. And "sick bed."
What a pretentious twit. You're either a tent revivalist or
some other con man. Hey, you crooked ape, not everyone is as
stupid as the rubes you gather in your carnival tent.
Or maybe YOU'RE a rube, yourself.
So you _know_ those stories are made up? Are you psychic? Have
you carefully investigated them like a scientist would before
passing judgement?
You don't need to be a scientist to investigate these things.
As a person who went to a lot of different churches, I've heard
of people praying to be spared from cancer, and they died of
it anyway.
That's pure hearsay. Anecdotal evidence.
In short: *****. Gossip.
Utterly worthless.
You do not know that everyone who has prayed to be spared from
cancer in a church died of cancer.
You obviously have not even read any of the studies done on
the healing power of prayer, much less investigated it yourself.
And you obviously have no intention of doing so.
Save it for the peasants. You are just another ignorant bigot,
More eloquent than most, but a facility with words and knowledge
are not the same thing at all.
<snip>
Alan
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| User: "Alric Knebel" |
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02 Nov 2006 05:33:03 AM |
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Alan Connor wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kiajgfljs07a2@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Alan Connor wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kbt8ddd59feb4@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Gatekeeper wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
wrote:
people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING,
CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god has the
jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be
a matched pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back
from falling off of a roof, have his spine healed so that he
could get up out of a sick bed where he had lain for three
years. The Dr. said he would never be able to get up again,
but then God apparently had other plans! He is 80 years old
now and still going strong!
Oh, man. Here we go. Get the shovel. Those stories even
SOUND made-up: "he was laid out on a SICK BED for THREE
YEARS." "Three years," the magic number. And "sick bed."
What a pretentious twit. You're either a tent revivalist or
some other con man. Hey, you crooked ape, not everyone is as
stupid as the rubes you gather in your carnival tent.
Or maybe YOU'RE a rube, yourself.
So you _know_ those stories are made up? Are you psychic? Have
you carefully investigated them like a scientist would before
passing judgement?
You don't need to be a scientist to investigate these things.
As a person who went to a lot of different churches, I've heard
of people praying to be spared from cancer, and they died of
it anyway.
That's pure hearsay. Anecdotal evidence.
In short: *****. Gossip.
Utterly worthless.
You do not know that everyone who has prayed to be spared from
cancer in a church died of cancer.
You obviously have not even read any of the studies done on
the healing power of prayer, much less investigated it yourself.
You must have not read a single thing I said, or you're just to dumb to
understand what you read. I said plainly that being spared a death of
cancer had nothing to do with RELIGION or a miraculous healing. It has
something to do with an attitude change, and in some cases, an attitude
was changed due to a person's religious faith, and sometimes it's
something else. I said cancer is a disease that's in flux all the time,
so any healing is part of a natural process in response to an attitude
change. I've heard the same claims about acupuncture.
And you obviously have no intention of doing so.
I don't need to, because I don't disbelieve that prayer can have a
healing effect. But the change isn't a reaction to the intercession by
an invisible supernatural being. If it was supernatural, the change
would be immediate, and drugs and so forth wouldn't be necessary to
facilitate the recovery. I myself have recovered from poor health by
such an attitude change, but it was more work on my part than miracle.
Save it for the peasants. You are just another ignorant bigot,
More eloquent than most, but a facility with words and knowledge
are not the same thing at all.
And you're an clumsy bigot, with inferior reading skills. I asked you
if YOU have seen with your own two eyes the growth of a leg or the
recovery of some deformed flesh. You didn't answer. My standard of
proof is too reality based for you. You're just a pissy little twit,
angry that someone can come along and challenge you with so much
confidence. You clearly were intimidated by my response, since you
didn't address any of it. If you have some scientific proof of a
supernatural intercession, by all means, produce it. Otherwise, you
twit, shut the hell up.
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Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
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| User: "" |
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02 Nov 2006 05:37:53 PM |
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Alric Knebel wrote:
Alan Connor wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kiajgfljs07a2@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Alan Connor wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kbt8ddd59feb4@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Gatekeeper wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
wrote:
people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING,
CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god has the
jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be
a matched pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back
from falling off of a roof, have his spine healed so that he
could get up out of a sick bed where he had lain for three
years. The Dr. said he would never be able to get up again,
but then God apparently had other plans! He is 80 years old
now and still going strong!
Oh, man. Here we go. Get the shovel. Those stories even
SOUND made-up: "he was laid out on a SICK BED for THREE
YEARS." "Three years," the magic number. And "sick bed."
What a pretentious twit. You're either a tent revivalist or
some other con man. Hey, you crooked ape, not everyone is as
stupid as the rubes you gather in your carnival tent.
Or maybe YOU'RE a rube, yourself.
So you _know_ those stories are made up? Are you psychic? Have
you carefully investigated them like a scientist would before
passing judgement?
You don't need to be a scientist to investigate these things.
As a person who went to a lot of different churches, I've heard
of people praying to be spared from cancer, and they died of
it anyway.
That's pure hearsay. Anecdotal evidence.
In short: *****. Gossip.
Utterly worthless.
You do not know that everyone who has prayed to be spared from
cancer in a church died of cancer.
You obviously have not even read any of the studies done on
the healing power of prayer, much less investigated it yourself.
You must have not read a single thing I said, or you're just to dumb to
understand what you read. I said plainly that being spared a death of
cancer had nothing to do with RELIGION or a miraculous healing. It has
something to do with an attitude change, and in some cases, an attitude
was changed due to a person's religious faith, and sometimes it's
something else. I said cancer is a disease that's in flux all the time,
so any healing is part of a natural process in response to an attitude
change. I've heard the same claims about acupuncture.
And you obviously have no intention of doing so.
I don't need to, because I don't disbelieve that prayer can have a
healing effect. But the change isn't a reaction to the intercession by
an invisible supernatural being. If it was supernatural, the change
would be immediate, and drugs and so forth wouldn't be necessary to
facilitate the recovery.
I myself have recovered from poor health by
such an attitude change, but it was more work on my part than miracle.
Alric, *remember*
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this not
from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, lest any man
should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Save it for the peasants. You are just another ignorant bigot,
More eloquent than most, but a facility with words and knowledge
are not the same thing at all.
And you're an clumsy bigot, with inferior reading skills. I asked you
if YOU have seen with your own two eyes the growth of a leg or the
recovery of some deformed flesh. You didn't answer. My standard of
proof is too reality based for you. You're just a pissy little twit,
angry that someone can come along and challenge you with so much
confidence. You clearly were intimidated by my response, since you
didn't address any of it. If you have some scientific proof of a
supernatural intercession, by all means, produce it. Otherwise, you
twit, shut the hell up.
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Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
Alan,
"For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they
have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any
time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and
understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
" (Matthew 13:15)
Thanks,
-posterguy
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| Title: Re: teachings in public schools |
03 Nov 2006 04:38:07 AM |
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wrote:
Alric Knebel wrote:
Alan Connor wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kiajgfljs07a2@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Alan Connor wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<12kbt8ddd59feb4@corp.supernews.com>, "Alric Knebel" wrote:
Gatekeeper wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
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people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING,
CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god has the
jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be
a matched pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back
from falling off of a roof, have his spine healed so that he
could get up out of a sick bed where he had lain for three
years. The Dr. said he would never be able to get up again,
but then God apparently had other plans! He is 80 years old
now and still going strong!
Oh, man. Here we go. Get the shovel. Those stories even
SOUND made-up: "he was laid out on a SICK BED for THREE
YEARS." "Three years," the magic number. And "sick bed."
What a pretentious twit. You're either a tent revivalist or
some other con man. Hey, you crooked ape, not everyone is as
stupid as the rubes you gather in your carnival tent.
Or maybe YOU'RE a rube, yourself.
So you _know_ those stories are made up? Are you psychic? Have
you carefully investigated them like a scientist would before
passing judgement?
You don't need to be a scientist to investigate these things.
As a person who went to a lot of different churches, I've heard
of people praying to be spared from cancer, and they died of
it anyway.
That's pure hearsay. Anecdotal evidence.
In short: *****. Gossip.
Utterly worthless.
You do not know that everyone who has prayed to be spared from
cancer in a church died of cancer.
You obviously have not even read any of the studies done on
the healing power of prayer, much less investigated it yourself.
You must have not read a single thing I said, or you're just to dumb to
understand what you read. I said plainly that being spared a death of
cancer had nothing to do with RELIGION or a miraculous healing. It has
something to do with an attitude change, and in some cases, an attitude
was changed due to a person's religious faith, and sometimes it's
something else. I said cancer is a disease that's in flux all the time,
so any healing is part of a natural process in response to an attitude
change. I've heard the same claims about acupuncture.
And you obviously have no intention of doing so.
I don't need to, because I don't disbelieve that prayer can have a
healing effect. But the change isn't a reaction to the intercession by
an invisible supernatural being. If it was supernatural, the change
would be immediate, and drugs and so forth wouldn't be necessary to
facilitate the recovery.
I myself have recovered from poor health by
such an attitude change, but it was more work on my part than miracle.
Alric, *remember*
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this not
from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, lest any man
should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)
And I do believe that's a non sequitur. You're sort of thick, aren't you.
Save it for the peasants. You are just another ignorant bigot,
More eloquent than most, but a facility with words and knowledge
are not the same thing at all.
And you're an clumsy bigot, with inferior reading skills. I asked you
if YOU have seen with your own two eyes the growth of a leg or the
recovery of some deformed flesh. You didn't answer. My standard of
proof is too reality based for you. You're just a pissy little twit,
angry that someone can come along and challenge you with so much
confidence. You clearly were intimidated by my response, since you
didn't address any of it. If you have some scientific proof of a
supernatural intercession, by all means, produce it. Otherwise, you
twit, shut the hell up.
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Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
Alan,
"For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they
have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any
time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and
understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
" (Matthew 13:15)
Oh, yeah. You're thick.
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Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
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| User: "Alan Connor FGA" |
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| Title: Re: [kook] Re: teachings in public schools |
02 Nov 2006 01:04:00 AM |
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Thanks for your kookfart, Beavis.
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| User: "Alan Connor FGA" |
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| Title: Re: [kook] Re: teachings in public schools |
31 Oct 2006 03:06:08 AM |
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Thanks for your kookfart, Beavis.
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| User: "Alric Knebel" |
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01 Nov 2006 05:16:12 PM |
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Alan Connor FGA wrote:
Thanks for your kookfart, Beavis.
That was interesting: two different responses, same name, one with a
added tag. What's up?
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Alric Knebel
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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01 Nov 2006 06:11:55 PM |
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Gatekeeper wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:53 GMT, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
people should not be worshipping a MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING
COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god
has the jackass christian god healed amputees yet?
I have seen legs grow out, where there had been Polio, to be a matched
pair, and I have seen a man that had a broken back from falling off of
a roof, have his spine healed so that he could get up out of a sick
bed where he had lain for three years. The Dr. said he would never be
able to get up again, but then God apparently had other plans! He is
80 years old now and still going strong!
So how come we're hearing about it from you, and not the JAMA?
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: Satanic teachings in public schools |
30 Oct 2006 06:07:22 PM |
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wrote:
I vaguely remember being taught evolution in science classes, but one
of the nagging memories I have from high school is the clearly biased
teaching on "Divine Authority," in Social Studies courses. Does anyone
else remember how certain monarchs were talked about condescendingly
for their belief that they ruled by appointment of God?
You were forced to read Thomas Paine, right?
I clearly went
along with my teachers, and believed for the longest time that this was
a perverted belief that lead to tyranny.
You believed correctly.
However, since I have became
saved I now realize that all authority comes from God above.
Not a goddamned thing comes from god. Not even god.
See:
Romans 13:1, John 19:11, ect. There appears to be more ways than one
that the devil has infiltrated our public schools.
That would be an improvement, alas, it isn't so.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Satanic teachings in public schools - Royalist nitwit! |
04 Nov 2006 07:09:37 PM |
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wrote:
I vaguely remember being taught evolution in science classes, but one
of the nagging memories I have from high school is the clearly biased
teaching on "Divine Authority," in Social Studies courses. Does anyone
else remember how certain monarchs were talked about condescendingly
for their belief that they ruled by appointment of God? I clearly went
along with my teachers, and believed for the longest time that this was
a perverted belief that lead to tyranny. However, since I have became
saved I now realize that all authority comes from God above. See:
Romans 13:1, John 19:11, ect. There appears to be more ways than one
that the devil has infiltrated our public schools.
Thank you,
-posterguy
===>Thank you, you royalist nitwit, for denouncing the
American Revolution, the Bill of Rights and the US
Constitution with one lousy comment based on the writings
of a crazy man called Saul/Paul! -- L.
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| User: "Alric Knebel" |
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| Title: Re: Satanic teachings in public schools |
29 Oct 2006 08:41:33 PM |
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wrote:
I vaguely remember being taught evolution in science classes, but one
of the nagging memories I have from high school is the clearly biased
teaching on "Divine Authority," in Social Studies courses. Does anyone
else remember how certain monarchs were talked about condescendingly
for their belief that they ruled by appointment of God? I clearly went
along with my teachers, and believed for the longest time that this was
a perverted belief that lead to tyranny. However, since I have became
saved I now realize that all authority comes from God above. See:
Romans 13:1, John 19:11, ect. There appears to be more ways than one
that the devil has infiltrated our public schools.
Thank you,
-posterguy
Clearly, you're a throwback to a darker, more superstitious time. If
what you're saying is true -- that you believe all authority comes from
God -- then it would never be possible to question authority, or
overthrow an evil one. This idea of yours is just plain stupid.
Keep up the good work. In a couple of generations, Christianity will be
a silly footnote in pop culture. Like all cults. You definitely prove
to us how right the rest of us -- the majority (the VAST majority) --
are reject you.
But, really, you're so terribly stupid, I'm thinking you're not a
Christian at all, and you're really just saying this stuff to make
Christians look bad. Like Colbert, on THE COLBERT REPORT. A lot of
people don't get he's being ironic to make right-wing conservatives look
bad.
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Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Satanic teachings in public schools |
30 Oct 2006 10:37:17 AM |
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SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim,
You really need a crash course in the doctrine of God's permissive
will, as oppose to his explicit will. There is God's permissive will,
as in, that which is assigned to the free will of man and thus allowed
by Him for us to realize our errors and what not (see Genesis 3:6). In
Genesis 3:6 the woman, Eve, and the man, Adam, ate of the forbidden
fruit that they were told not to eat. If God is all powerful, why did
he allow this?!? It is his permissive will! God's explicit will
refers to those things that he has come to pass regardless of human
will (See Matthew 26:39). In Matthew 26:39 Jesus did not want to
suffer death and crucifixion for the sins of mankind; however, it was
God's explicit will, and it could not be changed, for it was his will
that it should come to pass.
Thank you,
-posterguy
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: Satanic teachings in public schools |
30 Oct 2006 08:58:21 PM |
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<posterguy@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1162226237.318028.320180@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim,
You really need a crash course in the doctrine of God's permissive
will, as oppose to his explicit will.
and you need a crash course in how NOT to worship a mass-murdering,
child-killing COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Satanic teachings in public schools |
30 Oct 2006 10:06:16 PM |
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wrote:
I vaguely remember being taught evolution in science classes, but one
of the nagging memories I have from high school is the clearly biased
teaching on "Divine Authority," in Social Studies courses. Does anyone
else remember how certain monarchs were talked about condescendingly
for their belief that they ruled by appointment of God? I clearly went
along with my teachers, and believed for the longest time that this was
a perverted belief that lead to tyranny. However, since I have became
saved I now realize that all authority comes from God above. See:
Romans 13:1, John 19:11, ect. There appears to be more ways than one
that the devil has infiltrated our public schools.
Thank you,
-posterguy
We could have done without Hitler. If the devil said that Hitler
should not have ruled Germany, then in that case, I agree. However, if
you see some redeeming qualities about Hitler that you think God
approved of, let us know.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Satanic teachings in public schools |
04 Nov 2006 07:12:02 PM |
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wrote:
posterguy@mail.com wrote:
I vaguely remember being taught evolution in science classes, but one
of the nagging memories I have from high school is the clearly biased
teaching on "Divine Authority," in Social Studies courses. Does anyone
else remember how certain monarchs were talked about condescendingly
for their belief that they ruled by appointment of God? I clearly went
along with my teachers, and believed for the longest time that this was
a perverted belief that lead to tyranny. However, since I have became
saved I now realize that all authority comes from God above. See:
Romans 13:1, John 19:11, ect. There appears to be more ways than one
that the devil has infiltrated our public schools.
Thank you,
-posterguy
We could have done without Hitler. If the devil said that Hitler
should not have ruled Germany, then in that case, I agree. However, if
you see some redeeming qualities about Hitler that you think God
approved of, let us know.
===>You might also add Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. -- L.
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