Religions > Bible > Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned.
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"John P. Boatwright" |
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02 Dec 2005 11:10:03 PM |
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Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
Here's where a senior astronomer at SETI (funded by NASA)
denies they're looking for intelligence "out there":
http://www.seti.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=ktJ2J9MMIsE&b=194993&ct=1638783
(watch the wrap if there is any)
Notice how pathetic his denial of their own charter is, which
is mentioned here on the same site:
http://www.seti.org/site/pp.asp?c=ktJ2J9MMIsE&b=178899
ha ha ha...
Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence... is denied
when someone mentions "Intelligent Design"... 'cuz
God was mentioned, and scientists don't want to be KNOWN
to be saying the same stuff...
Like when they claim their THOUSANDS of FALSE gods in
the theory of "Natural Selection"... made up gods they
make up willy nilly any time they want to, and claim you
have to worship said false gods as your creator...
Then they LIE when you point out they're saying what they're
saying... say they aren't saying what their own charter
says... see the site... an open LIE... lying like a slug.
"No, we're not looking for intelligence... we're looking
for uh... let's see... what are we looking for... uh..."
ha ha ha....
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Yournameheres personal Cthulhu" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
03 Dec 2005 03:32:51 PM |
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"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> suddenly spluttered:
"No, we're not looking for intelligence... we're looking
for uh... let's see... what are we looking for... uh..."
The only shameless liar here is you. Unless, that is, Dickbrained
Squawkin's happens along. All you had to say was to admit that even
the carefully stated explanation you linked to and quoted from, of the
difference between looking for life on other worlds and looking for
God, was far too abstruse for you to understand. The best way of doing
this would have been to remain silent.
This is the last time I will try to help you to avoid looking
extremely stupid. Take my advice, and go and get an education.
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Look at the logo and tell me Christianity isn't a death cult.
D Silverman BAAWA and bar.
AA #2208
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
02 Dec 2005 11:36:45 PM |
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"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Really? So what are your sins? I mean, what have you done
that justifies the death penalty?
Do tell.
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
03 Dec 2005 12:19:05 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Really? So what are your sins? I mean, what have you done
that justifies the death penalty?
Do tell.
Everyone dies, no exceptions.
We all have a death penalty coming up.
The question is... who will be saved, and who won't.
God told Job that ONLY his ARM can save, your arm
can not save you.
Jesus is the ARM OF GOD... the same ARM OF GOD showing
up as a man, DYING for the transgressions of others,
foretold in Isaiah 53.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
03 Dec 2005 06:52:02 PM |
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"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote
JTEM wrote:
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Really? So what are your sins? I mean, what have you done
that justifies the death penalty?
Everyone dies, no exceptions.
You're not answering the question. What sins have you
committed which justify the death penalty?
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
04 Dec 2005 03:56:23 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote
JTEM wrote:
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Really? So what are your sins? I mean, what have you done
that justifies the death penalty?
Everyone dies, no exceptions.
You're not answering the question. What sins have you
committed which justify the death penalty?
Like I said, everyone dies, no exceptions.
It's all temporary, a test... what will you do?
As you live your life... what will you do?
Your life will eventually end... what sins will you
be judged for? How many are there to be judged for?
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
03 Dec 2005 11:37:43 AM |
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"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote in message
news:43913725.198D@For-God.net...
JTEM wrote:
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Really? So what are your sins? I mean, what have you done
that justifies the death penalty?
Do tell.
Everyone dies, no exceptions.
We all have a death penalty coming up.
The question is... who will be saved, and who won't.
God told Job that ONLY his ARM can save, your arm
can not save you.
Jesus is the ARM OF GOD... the same ARM OF GOD showing
up as a man, DYING for the transgressions of others,
foretold in Isaiah 53.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
John,
Notice how the God-Haters are the first to jump in?
`snickers`
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
03 Dec 2005 06:11:42 PM |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:37:43 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote in message
news:43913725.198D@For-God.net...
JTEM wrote:
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Really? So what are your sins? I mean, what have you done
that justifies the death penalty?
Do tell.
Everyone dies, no exceptions.
We all have a death penalty coming up.
The question is... who will be saved, and who won't.
God told Job that ONLY his ARM can save, your arm
can not save you.
Jesus is the ARM OF GOD... the same ARM OF GOD showing
up as a man, DYING for the transgressions of others,
foretold in Isaiah 53.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
John,
Notice how the God-Haters are the first to jump in?
`snickers`
Notice how neither you nor John are capable of answering a simple
question? To repeat it, what have either of you done that would
justify the death penalty?
---
"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
04 Dec 2005 01:03:28 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 19:11:42 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
To repeat it, what have either of you done that would
justify the death penalty?
You assume you are owed something. You have been
given your life here. Live it. Then when you die, you
get nothing after that. Nothing is owed you and what
you had already, was a gift anyway. You are assuming
that you are owed eternal life in Heaven.
Of course, you could live forever. Your choice.
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
04 Dec 2005 02:44:19 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 07:03:28 GMT, Ananias917
<_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 19:11:42 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
To repeat it, what have either of you done that would
justify the death penalty?
You assume you are owed something.
You assume much in thinking that I assume anything. Once again, you
jump to conclusions, without reading for content and context, and
while snipping much of the relevant back discussion.
To put things back in context, Boatwright was referring to death as a
penalty. Please bear in mind that words actually have meaning: a
penalty is something imposed on someone for an infraction. If death
is, in fact, a penalty, what has he done to merit such a penalty?
You have been
given your life here. Live it. Then when you die, you
get nothing after that. Nothing is owed you and what
you had already, was a gift anyway.
An interesting POV; you sound closer to an atheist than a Christian
here. It is, of course, diametrically opposed to both what Boatwright
was saying (that death is a penalty), and mainstream Christianity (the
immortality of the soul).
You are assuming
that you are owed eternal life in Heaven.
Again, I am assuming nothing; you're being very presumptuous in
stating such.
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"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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04 Dec 2005 05:22:47 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 15:44:19 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 07:03:28 GMT, Ananias917
<_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 19:11:42 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
To repeat it, what have either of you done that would
justify the death penalty?
You assume you are owed something.
You assume much in thinking that I assume anything.
If you did not assume that you are owed something in
that scenario, then you wouldn't be whining about it.
Your whole argument is based on what you claim God
should and shouldn't do for you, when you die. That
means that you are implying that He owes you eternal
life with Him.
You've got your life here. It was a gift. Enjoy it.
When you die, you get nothing. So what? You're
not owed anything.
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"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "raven1" |
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05 Dec 2005 05:28:08 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:22:47 GMT, Ananias917
<_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 15:44:19 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 07:03:28 GMT, Ananias917
<_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 19:11:42 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
To repeat it, what have either of you done that would
justify the death penalty?
You assume you are owed something.
You assume much in thinking that I assume anything.
If you did not assume that you are owed something in
that scenario, then you wouldn't be whining about it.
Your whole argument is based on what you claim God
should and shouldn't do for you, when you die.
No, it's based on Boaty calling death a penalty. A penalty is a form
of punishment. So, again, what has he done to merit such a punishment?
That
means that you are implying that He owes you eternal
life with Him.
In case it's somehow escaped you, I'm an atheist, Einstein. I don't
believe in your "God", nor do I believe that an imaginary being can
owe anyone anything. I do believe, however, that words have actual
meanings, and that theists shouldn't be allowed to use them to mean
whatever they please without being called on it. If death is a
punishment, what is it a punishment for?
You've got your life here. It was a gift. Enjoy it.
When you die, you get nothing. So what? You're
not owed anything.
Your ability to continue to completely miss the point is truly
breathtaking.
Let me put this in terms even you should be able to understand:
Boaty referred to death as a "penalty".
The last time I checked, a penalty was a form of punishment.
Got it so far?
Good. Now what has he (or anyone else) done to deserve such a
punishment?
---
"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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06 Dec 2005 11:05:42 AM |
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On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:28:08 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
To repeat it, what have either of you done that would
justify the death penalty?
You assume you are owed something.
You assume much in thinking that I assume anything.
If you did not assume that you are owed something in
that scenario, then you wouldn't be whining about it.
Your whole argument is based on what you claim God
should and shouldn't do for you, when you die.
No, it's based on Boaty calling death a penalty. A penalty is a form
of punishment. So, again, what has he done to merit such a punishment?
Death is the result of living. Permanent death is the
result of you rejecting the Lord. Do so, if you wish.
Then die. You are not owed anything and your life
here was a gift in the first place. So you haven't
lost anything and have gained a free life.
Cased closed, your whining is done now.
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
06 Dec 2005 03:46:13 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:05:42 GMT, Ananias917
<_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:28:08 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
To repeat it, what have either of you done that would
justify the death penalty?
You assume you are owed something.
You assume much in thinking that I assume anything.
If you did not assume that you are owed something in
that scenario, then you wouldn't be whining about it.
Your whole argument is based on what you claim God
should and shouldn't do for you, when you die.
No, it's based on Boaty calling death a penalty. A penalty is a form
of punishment. So, again, what has he done to merit such a punishment?
Death is the result of living.
Then it is not a penalty.
Permanent death is the
result of you rejecting the Lord. Do so, if you wish.
Then die. You are not owed anything and your life
here was a gift in the first place. So you haven't
lost anything and have gained a free life.
Pascal's Wager is just as fallacious now as it was then, in that it
contains the rather gigantic assumptions that: a) you've chosen the
right deity out of the thousands mankind has postulated and b) he
isn't ***** at your rather crass gamesmanship.
Cased closed, your whining is done now.
Do you really think such arrogance is a good advertisement for
Christianity?
---
"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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08 Dec 2005 06:50:25 AM |
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:46:13 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
Death is the result of living.
Then it is not a penalty.
That's a matter of perspective.
For me, knowing what I know, it would be.
Permanent death is the
result of you rejecting the Lord. Do so, if you wish.
Then die. You are not owed anything and your life
here was a gift in the first place. So you haven't
lost anything and have gained a free life.
Pascal's Wager is just as fallacious now as it was then,
I never mentioned the concept. I stated that you
haven't lost anything, if you die unsaved. How does
that equate? Oh, it doesn't.
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
08 Dec 2005 09:14:44 AM |
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"Ananias917" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rtagp15qemhujpamubuhm6iovmgq52vc42@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:46:13 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
Death is the result of living.
Then it is not a penalty.
That's a matter of perspective.
For me, knowing what I know, it would be.
Permanent death is the
result of you rejecting the Lord. Do so, if you wish.
Then die. You are not owed anything and your life
here was a gift in the first place. So you haven't
lost anything and have gained a free life.
Pascal's Wager is just as fallacious now as it was then,
I never mentioned the concept. I stated that you
haven't lost anything, if you die unsaved. How does
that equate? Oh, it doesn't.
and, as has been said EVERY time some idiot brings up this issue - what if
YOU'RE wrong, and get the wrong "god" ... and the RIGHT one is more pissed
at you for worshiping a FALSE god than he would be of people who worshipped
NO god?
Why are you ignoring the call for evidence?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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08 Dec 2005 10:03:38 AM |
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:14:44 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote:
"Ananias917" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rtagp15qemhujpamubuhm6iovmgq52vc42@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:46:13 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
Death is the result of living.
Then it is not a penalty.
That's a matter of perspective.
For me, knowing what I know, it would be.
Permanent death is the
result of you rejecting the Lord. Do so, if you wish.
Then die. You are not owed anything and your life
here was a gift in the first place. So you haven't
lost anything and have gained a free life.
Pascal's Wager is just as fallacious now as it was then,
I never mentioned the concept. I stated that you
haven't lost anything, if you die unsaved. How does
that equate? Oh, it doesn't.
and, as has been said EVERY time some idiot brings up this issue - what if
YOU'RE wrong, and get the wrong "god" ... and the RIGHT one is more pissed
at you for worshiping a FALSE god than he would be of people who worshipped
NO god?
Why are you ignoring the call for evidence?
Different nym, same *****.
You know Ananias917 is Pastor Dave, right?
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
09 Dec 2005 01:42:32 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:18mgp155sqmr34j798ovo823qd0duovf21@4ax.com...
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:14:44 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote:
"Ananias917" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rtagp15qemhujpamubuhm6iovmgq52vc42@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:46:13 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
Death is the result of living.
Then it is not a penalty.
That's a matter of perspective.
For me, knowing what I know, it would be.
Permanent death is the
result of you rejecting the Lord. Do so, if you wish.
Then die. You are not owed anything and your life
here was a gift in the first place. So you haven't
lost anything and have gained a free life.
Pascal's Wager is just as fallacious now as it was then,
I never mentioned the concept. I stated that you
haven't lost anything, if you die unsaved. How does
that equate? Oh, it doesn't.
and, as has been said EVERY time some idiot brings up this issue - what if
YOU'RE wrong, and get the wrong "god" ... and the RIGHT one is more pissed
at you for worshiping a FALSE god than he would be of people who
worshipped
NO god?
Why are you ignoring the call for evidence?
Different nym, same *****.
You know Ananias917 is Pastor Dave, right?
Now I do...................
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| User: "Daniel & Annette Halligan" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
08 Dec 2005 03:25:46 PM |
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I enjoy Ananias. He has knowledge of the scripture. He challanges my
knoledge of Bible Prophecy and this is how we learn. Hang in there Ananias
Dan
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:18mgp155sqmr34j798ovo823qd0duovf21@4ax.com...
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:14:44 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote:
"Ananias917" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rtagp15qemhujpamubuhm6iovmgq52vc42@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:46:13 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
Death is the result of living.
Then it is not a penalty.
That's a matter of perspective.
For me, knowing what I know, it would be.
Permanent death is the
result of you rejecting the Lord. Do so, if you wish.
Then die. You are not owed anything and your life
here was a gift in the first place. So you haven't
lost anything and have gained a free life.
Pascal's Wager is just as fallacious now as it was then,
I never mentioned the concept. I stated that you
haven't lost anything, if you die unsaved. How does
that equate? Oh, it doesn't.
and, as has been said EVERY time some idiot brings up this issue - what
if
YOU'RE wrong, and get the wrong "god" ... and the RIGHT one is more
pissed
at you for worshiping a FALSE god than he would be of people who
worshipped
NO god?
Why are you ignoring the call for evidence?
Different nym, same *****.
You know Ananias917 is Pastor Dave, right?
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
09 Dec 2005 01:43:24 AM |
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"Daniel & Annette Halligan" <Penguin@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
news:11ph8tt4g6psbdc@corp.supernews.com...
I enjoy Ananias. He has knowledge of the scripture. He challanges my
knoledge of Bible Prophecy and this is how we learn. Hang in there Ananias
Even Charlie Manson had his followers - so this is no surprise.
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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09 Dec 2005 02:35:24 PM |
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:25:46 -0600, "Daniel & Annette
Halligan" <Penguin@cybrzn.com> spake thusly:
I enjoy Ananias. He has knowledge of the scripture. He challanges my
knoledge of Bible Prophecy and this is how we learn. Hang in there Ananias
We aim to pressure. Er, I mean please. Yea, that's
it, "please". yea, that's the ticket, yea! :)
Dan
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:18mgp155sqmr34j798ovo823qd0duovf21@4ax.com...
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:14:44 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote:
"Ananias917" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:46:13 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
Death is the result of living.
Then it is not a penalty.
That's a matter of perspective.
For me, knowing what I know, it would be.
Permanent death is the
result of you rejecting the Lord. Do so, if you wish.
Then die. You are not owed anything and your life
here was a gift in the first place. So you haven't
lost anything and have gained a free life.
Pascal's Wager is just as fallacious now as it was then,
I never mentioned the concept. I stated that you
haven't lost anything, if you die unsaved. How does
that equate? Oh, it doesn't.
and, as has been said EVERY time some idiot brings up this issue - what
if
YOU'RE wrong, and get the wrong "god" ... and the RIGHT one is more
pissed
at you for worshiping a FALSE god than he would be of people who
worshipped
NO god?
Why are you ignoring the call for evidence?
Different nym, same *****.
You know Ananias917 is Pastor Dave, right?
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
09 Dec 2005 02:05:30 AM |
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:25:46 -0600, "Daniel & Annette Halligan"
<Penguin@cybrzn.com> wrote:
I enjoy Ananias. He has knowledge of the scripture. He challanges my
knoledge of Bible Prophecy and this is how we learn. Hang in there Ananias
In my experience, Dave's knowledge of anything, including scripture,
is practically nonexistent.
Dan
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| User: "Daniel & Annette Halligan" |
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09 Dec 2005 10:39:18 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:25:46 -0600, "Daniel & Annette Halligan"
<Penguin@cybrzn.com> wrote:
I enjoy Ananias. He has knowledge of the scripture. He challanges my
knoledge of Bible Prophecy and this is how we learn. Hang in there
Ananias
In my experience, Dave's knowledge of anything, including scripture,
is practically nonexistent.
Dan
After further review, I must agree. Keep praying for him.
Daniel
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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09 Dec 2005 07:38:24 PM |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:39:18 -0600, "Daniel & Annette
Halligan" <Penguin@cybrzn.com> spake thusly:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:25:46 -0600, "Daniel & Annette Halligan"
<Penguin@cybrzn.com> wrote:
I enjoy Ananias. He has knowledge of the scripture. He challanges my
knoledge of Bible Prophecy and this is how we learn. Hang in there
Ananias
In my experience, Dave's knowledge of anything, including scripture,
is practically nonexistent.
Dan
After further review, I must agree. Keep praying for him.
Really? You mean that I disagree with you, so I must
be wrong. I don't make the Bible all about me, so I
must be evil.
Let me ask you... Why is it that you haven't responded
to my post on the Rapture being a false doctrine?
Let's review...
I posted some things to you.
You said in a message to someone else that you like me,
because I keep you on your toes about your Biblical
knowledge.
I refute your rapture belief, which is obvious by your
lack of ability to respond and the fact that you
ignored my response completely.
Now, all of the sudden, you say that you agree that
"my knowledge of anything, especially Scripture,
is practically non-existent".
So what happened between the time you said you liked me
and the time you agreed with that statement?
Oh yea... I blew your rapture belief apart.
We both know that I did. You were eager to respond to
all of my messages, until you read that one, which was
a very polite message and now, all of the sudden, you
don't want to talk to me anymore.
Do you really think I don't know it's because your
vanity won't let you think that maybe, just maybe it
isn't all about you?
Are you so brainwashed that you can honestly think that
God sent Jesus to tell them what was going to happen,
because He was really talking right past them and
ignoring them, just to talk to you? Are you going to
try to tell me that's not vanity?
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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20 Dec 2005 10:00:00 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:05:42 GMT, Ananias917 <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:28:08 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> spake thusly:
To repeat it, what have either of you done that would
justify the death penalty?
You assume you are owed something.
You assume much in thinking that I assume anything.
If you did not assume that you are owed something in
that scenario, then you wouldn't be whining about it.
Your whole argument is based on what you claim God
should and shouldn't do for you, when you die.
No, it's based on Boaty calling death a penalty. A penalty is a form
of punishment. So, again, what has he done to merit such a punishment?
Death is the result of living. Permanent death is the
result of you rejecting the Lord.
You rejecting the Lord is the result of the Lord screwing up.
Do so, if you wish.
Then die. You are not owed anything and your life
here was a gift in the first place. So you haven't
lost anything and have gained a free life.
Cased closed, your whining is done now.
You haven't presented a case.
--
Barry
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Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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04 Dec 2005 04:03:24 PM |
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raven1 wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 07:03:28 GMT, Ananias917
An interesting POV; you sound closer to an atheist than a Christian
here. It is, of course, diametrically opposed to both what Boatwright
was saying (that death is a penalty), and mainstream Christianity (the
immortality of the soul).
No, I said we all have a death penalty coming up.
The question is, who will be saved?
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Science CAUGHT openly LYING and DENYING their own charter, when God is mentioned. |
04 Dec 2005 05:32:57 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:03:24 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
raven1 wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 07:03:28 GMT, Ananias917
An interesting POV; you sound closer to an atheist than a Christian
here. It is, of course, diametrically opposed to both what Boatwright
was saying (that death is a penalty), and mainstream Christianity (the
immortality of the soul).
No, I said we all have a death penalty coming up.
And once again, John, words actually mean something. What have you
done to deserve such a penalty?
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"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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04 Dec 2005 05:38:59 PM |
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raven1 wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:03:24 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
raven1 wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 07:03:28 GMT, Ananias917
An interesting POV; you sound closer to an atheist than a Christian
here. It is, of course, diametrically opposed to both what Boatwright
was saying (that death is a penalty), and mainstream Christianity (the
immortality of the soul).
No, I said we all have a death penalty coming up.
And once again, John, words actually mean something. What have you
done to deserve such a penalty?
Last time I checked, everyone dies... right?
When did this change?
After dying, you'll then be judged for all your sins,
as (IIRC) you reject Jesus having died for them.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "raven1" |
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05 Dec 2005 05:20:45 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:38:59 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
raven1 wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:03:24 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
raven1 wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 07:03:28 GMT, Ananias917
An interesting POV; you sound closer to an atheist than a Christian
here. It is, of course, diametrically opposed to both what Boatwright
was saying (that death is a penalty), and mainstream Christianity (the
immortality of the soul).
No, I said we all have a death penalty coming up.
And once again, John, words actually mean something. What have you
done to deserve such a penalty?
Last time I checked, everyone dies... right?
And the last time I checked, a penalty was a form of punishment. When
did this change?
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"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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03 Dec 2005 02:48:52 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Richard Dawkins
(Dawkins@Hell.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Notice how the God-Haters are the first to jump in?
`snickers`
Raytard, you're like a dog that, no matter how many times you rub its nose
in it, still shits the carpet.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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sig under construction
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| User: "raven1" |
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03 Dec 2005 10:48:40 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 06:19:05 GMT, "John P. Boatwright"
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
JTEM wrote:
"John P. Boatwright" <name@For-God.net> wrote
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Really? So what are your sins? I mean, what have you done
that justifies the death penalty?
Do tell.
Everyone dies, no exceptions.
We all have a death penalty coming up.
The question is... who will be saved, and who won't.
God told Job that ONLY his ARM can save, your arm
can not save you.
Jesus is the ARM OF GOD... the same ARM OF GOD showing
up as a man, DYING for the transgressions of others,
foretold in Isaiah 53.
That doesn't answer the question. What have you done that justifies
the death penalty?
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"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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