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20 Dec 2007 12:51:59 AM |
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SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE |
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm :
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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20 Dec 2007 04:10:14 AM |
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| User: "John Jones" |
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20 Dec 2007 02:57:26 PM |
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On 20 Dec, 06:51, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE |
20 Dec 2007 08:28:19 AM |
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On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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| User: "John Jones" |
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| Title: BIG CAPITAL LETTERS RESPONSE!!! HERE !!! |
20 Dec 2007 08:29:19 AM |
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On Dec 20, 2:28=EF=BF=BDpm, wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: =EF=BF=BDhttp://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". =EF=BF=BDThis is not exactly "=
Mighty
God", but close. =EF=BF=BD"Strong" is more correct (but it is different =
from
strong of "hazak"). =EF=BF=BDHere both El and Gibor are nouns - this is =
short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. =EF=BF=BDThe wor=
d
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. =EF=BF=BDRather, it is an astral plane imposter of th=
e
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." =EF=BF=BDGod, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix fo=
und in
the name of each Archangel: =EF=BF=BDMikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. =EF=BF=BDF=
urthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. =EF=BF=BDOne can only conclude th=
at the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. =EF=BF=BDHe is called a chi=
ld in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. =EF=BF=BD=
There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. =EF=BF=BDMoshe's confusion b=
egan
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. =EF=BF=BDFrom that l=
imited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.- Hide quoted text -=
- Show quoted text -
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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| Title: I NEED ATTENTION BECAUSE I HAVE ISSUES, SO I USE BIG CAPITOL LETTERS. |
20 Dec 2007 08:36:34 AM |
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On Dec 21, 1:29 am, John Jones <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
On Dec 20, 2:28=EF=BF=BDpm, wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: =EF=BF=BDhttp://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". =EF=BF=BDThis is not exactly=
"Mighty
God", but close. =EF=BF=BD"Strong" is more correct (but it is differen=
t from
strong of "hazak"). =EF=BF=BDHere both El and Gibor are nouns - this i=
s short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong=
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. =EF=BF=BDThe w=
ord
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. =EF=BF=BDRather, it is an astral plane imposter of =
the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." =EF=BF=BDGod, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix =
found in
the name of each Archangel: =EF=BF=BDMikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. =EF=BF=
=BDFurthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. =EF=BF=BDOne can only conclude =
that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. =EF=BF=BDHe is called a c=
hild in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. =EF=BF=
=BDThere
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. =EF=BF=BDMoshe's confusion=
began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. =EF=BF=BDFrom that=
limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.- Hide quoted text=
-
- Show quoted text -
I HAVE TO SAY THAT WAS A GREAT POST JOHN. I LIKE BIG CAPITOL LETTERS
AND I HAVE BIG ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME, SO YOU SHOULD CARE.
SHALOM,
SNOW
A cold in the head causes less suffering than an idea. Everything you
want is out there waiting for you to ask. Everything you want also
wants you. But you have to take action to get it. I am not sincere,
even when I say I am not.
Jules Renard
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| User: "John Jones" |
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| Title: BIG CAPITOL LETTERS MISSPELT IN CAPITAL FARCE - REUTERS |
20 Dec 2007 01:47:02 PM |
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On 20 Dec, 14:36, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Dec 21, 1:29 am, John Jones <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
On Dec 20, 2:28=EF=BF=BDpm, wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: =EF=BF=BDhttp://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". =EF=BF=BDThis is not exact=
ly "Mighty
God", but close. =EF=BF=BD"Strong" is more correct (but it is differ=
ent from
strong of "hazak"). =EF=BF=BDHere both El and Gibor are nouns - this=
is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Stro=
ng
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. =EF=BF=BDThe=
word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worshi=
p
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. =EF=BF=BDRather, it is an astral plane imposter o=
f the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same=
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false=
..
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." =EF=BF=BDGod, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffi=
x found in
the name of each Archangel: =EF=BF=BDMikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. =EF=BF=
=BDFurthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated t=
o
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actuall=
y
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, th=
e
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. =EF=BF=BDOne can only conclud=
e that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. =EF=BF=BDHe is called a=
child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. =EF=
=BF=BDThere
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, bu=
t
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and=
rabbinical commentators were also confused. =EF=BF=BDMoshe's confusi=
on began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. =EF=BF=BDFrom th=
at limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.- Hide quoted te=
xt -
- Show quoted text -
I HAVE TO SAY THAT WAS A GREAT POST JOHN. I LIKE BIG CAPITOL LETTERS
AND I HAVE BIG ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME, SO YOU SHOULD CARE.
SHALOM,
SNOW
A cold in the head causes less suffering than an idea. Everything you
want is out there waiting for you to ask. Everything you want also
wants you. But you have to take action to get it. I am not sincere,
even when I say I am not.
Jules Renard- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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| User: "John Jones" |
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| Title: CAPITAL LETTERS ACHIEVE BIG STATUS |
20 Dec 2007 02:49:12 PM |
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On 20 Dec, 14:36, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Dec 21, 1:29 am, John Jones <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
On Dec 20, 2:28=EF=BF=BDpm, wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: =EF=BF=BDhttp://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". =EF=BF=BDThis is not exact=
ly "Mighty
God", but close. =EF=BF=BD"Strong" is more correct (but it is differ=
ent from
strong of "hazak"). =EF=BF=BDHere both El and Gibor are nouns - this=
is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Stro=
ng
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. =EF=BF=BDThe=
word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worshi=
p
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. =EF=BF=BDRather, it is an astral plane imposter o=
f the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same=
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false=
..
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." =EF=BF=BDGod, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffi=
x found in
the name of each Archangel: =EF=BF=BDMikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. =EF=BF=
=BDFurthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated t=
o
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actuall=
y
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, th=
e
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. =EF=BF=BDOne can only conclud=
e that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. =EF=BF=BDHe is called a=
child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. =EF=
=BF=BDThere
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, bu=
t
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and=
rabbinical commentators were also confused. =EF=BF=BDMoshe's confusi=
on began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. =EF=BF=BDFrom th=
at limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.- Hide quoted te=
xt -
- Show quoted text -
I HAVE TO SAY THAT WAS A GREAT POST JOHN. I LIKE BIG CAPITOL LETTERS
AND I HAVE BIG ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME, SO YOU SHOULD CARE.
SHALOM,
SNOW
A cold in the head causes less suffering than an idea. Everything you
want is out there waiting for you to ask. Everything you want also
wants you. But you have to take action to get it. I am not sincere,
even when I say I am not.
Jules Renard- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE |
20 Dec 2007 02:45:32 PM |
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On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE |
20 Dec 2007 02:53:03 PM |
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On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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20 Dec 2007 02:53:27 PM |
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On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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20 Dec 2007 02:58:38 PM |
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On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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20 Dec 2007 03:09:18 PM |
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wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
So you keep posting this crap because you're a sanctimonious *****?
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20 Dec 2007 03:41:35 PM |
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wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
Do you really believe that repetition of the same tired screed is going
to change any minds? Quit wasting electrons.
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20 Dec 2007 04:58:48 PM |
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On Dec 20, 2:41 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Do you really believe that repetition of the same tired screed is going
to change any minds? Quit wasting electrons.
That works for ***** Cheney and George Bush.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "cactus" |
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20 Dec 2007 09:59:54 PM |
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skyeyes wrote:
On Dec 20, 2:41 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Do you really believe that repetition of the same tired screed is going
to change any minds? Quit wasting electrons.
That works for ***** Cheney and George Bush.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
I guess Orwell was right...
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20 Dec 2007 04:47:59 PM |
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On Dec 20, 4:41 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Do you really believe that repetition of the same tired screed is going
to change any minds?
Yes. It's a highly effective marketing and behavioral adjustment
technique. After a while the brain believes theres at least some truth
to anything it's heard over and over and over again.
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20 Dec 2007 09:58:55 PM |
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Awaken21 wrote:
On Dec 20, 4:41 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Do you really believe that repetition of the same tired screed is going
to change any minds?
Yes. It's a highly effective marketing and behavioral adjustment
technique. After a while the brain believes theres at least some truth
to anything it's heard over and over and over again.
In this case, it's 5 down, 12,752,336,149 to go, plus or minus 153.
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23 Dec 2007 10:28:23 AM |
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On Dec 19, 10:51=A0pm, wrote:
From: =A0http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". =A0This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. =A0"Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). =A0Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. =A0The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. =A0Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." =A0God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: =A0Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. =A0Furthermore, it=
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. =A0One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. =A0He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. =A0There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. =A0Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. =A0From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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23 Dec 2007 11:18:47 AM |
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On Dec 23, 4:28=EF=BF=BDpm, wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:51=EF=BF=BDpm, wrote:
From: =EF=BF=BDhttp://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". =EF=BF=BDThis is not exactly "=
Mighty
God", but close. =EF=BF=BD"Strong" is more correct (but it is different =
from
strong of "hazak"). =EF=BF=BDHere both El and Gibor are nouns - this is =
short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. =EF=BF=BDThe wor=
d
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. =EF=BF=BDRather, it is an astral plane imposter of th=
e
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." =EF=BF=BDGod, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix fo=
und in
the name of each Archangel: =EF=BF=BDMikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. =EF=BF=BDF=
urthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. =EF=BF=BDOne can only conclude th=
at the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. =EF=BF=BDHe is called a chi=
ld in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. =EF=BF=BD=
There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. =EF=BF=BDMoshe's confusion b=
egan
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. =EF=BF=BDFrom that l=
imited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.- Hide quoted text -=
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23 Dec 2007 11:36:21 AM |
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On Dec 19, 10:51=A0pm, wrote:
From: =A0http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". =A0This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. =A0"Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). =A0Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. =A0The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. =A0Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." =A0God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: =A0Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. =A0Furthermore, it=
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. =A0One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. =A0He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. =A0There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. =A0Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. =A0From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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23 Dec 2007 03:13:59 PM |
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On Dec 19, 10:51=A0pm, wrote:
From: =A0http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". =A0This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. =A0"Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). =A0Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. =A0The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. =A0Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." =A0God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: =A0Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. =A0Furthermore, it=
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. =A0One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. =A0He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. =A0There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. =A0Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. =A0From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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| User: "Linda Lee" |
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| Title: Re: REDUNDANCY |
23 Dec 2007 03:48:50 PM |
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On Dec 23, 4:13 pm, wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:51 pm, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
Will you quit reposting your own posts endlessly, you freak.
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| User: "Linda Lee" |
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| Title: Re: SCRIPTURAL SCRAMBLING |
23 Dec 2007 03:47:16 PM |
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On Dec 20, 1:51 am, wrote:
From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". This is not exactly "Mighty
God", but close. "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
strong of "hazak"). Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
the name of each Archangel: Mikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
So now you're claiming Isa. 9:6 is referring to Mohammed. Not at all
surprising coming from one as bizarre as yourself.
You are combining every religion you've ever heard of, aren't you?
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| User: "John Jones" |
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| Title: INCREDIBLE BIG CAPITAL LETTERS POST SURPLUS !!!! |
20 Dec 2007 08:24:23 AM |
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On Dec 20, 6:51=EF=BF=BDam, wrote:
From: =EF=BF=BDhttp://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor". =EF=BF=BDThis is not exactly "Mi=
ghty
God", but close. =EF=BF=BD"Strong" is more correct (but it is different fr=
om
strong of "hazak"). =EF=BF=BDHere both El and Gibor are nouns - this is sh=
ort
full spell is "El Hu Gibor".
Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong
God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.
The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have
exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. =EF=BF=BDThe word
itself can also be translated as "Man of God".
[End Quote]
So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
imposter the LORD. =EF=BF=BDRather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
"LORD God." =EF=BF=BDGod, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix foun=
d in
the name of each Archangel: =EF=BF=BDMikha-el, Gibor-el, etc. =EF=BF=BDFur=
thermore, it
is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
ELOAH.
So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. =EF=BF=BDOne can only conclude that=
the
child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. =EF=BF=BDHe is called a child=
in
the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. =EF=BF=BDTh=
ere
may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
rabbinical commentators were also confused. =EF=BF=BDMoshe's confusion beg=
an
with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. =EF=BF=BDFrom that lim=
ited
experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE |
20 Dec 2007 08:19:29 AM |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:51:59 -0800, pjmutnick wrote:
SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE
What part of "atheism" are you not getting?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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Evolution is both fact and theory.
Creationism is neither.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE |
20 Dec 2007 01:35:46 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, bloodied us up with
this:
<snip>
Since scripture is hogwash, so must be your conjecture. Have a nice day.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE |
20 Dec 2007 01:41:25 AM |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:35:46 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, bloodied us up with
this:
<snip>
Since scripture is hogwash, so must be your conjecture. Have a nice day.
He will, if his ward for the terminally insane has an oversupply of
thorazine.
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| User: "chazwin" |
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| Title: Re: SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE |
20 Dec 2007 08:49:36 AM |
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Scriptural proof is an oxymoron.
Taking scriptural instruction is the very antithesis of reason and the
rational methodologies by which proof is gained.
Reading and looking for meaning inside scriptures is to surrender
yourself to faith.
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| User: "brian fletcher" |
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| Title: Re: SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE |
20 Dec 2007 05:56:31 PM |
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"chazwin" <chazwyman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c2e719f3-e945-4ee1-8f62-c3dbfed0e249@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Scriptural proof is an oxymoron.
Taking scriptural instruction is the very antithesis of reason and the
rational methodologies by which proof is gained.
Reading and looking for meaning inside scriptures is to surrender
yourself to faith.
Correct, then you surrender yourself to ideology and then intellectual
pursuit, until you finally recognize the one who is initiating the surrender
process.
BOfL
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