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16 Jun 2007 07:56:08 AM |
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Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Stepp spent time with high school and college girls who were all, to some
extent, participating in this ubiquitous "hookup culture." Their
experiences-as disturbing as they are-are something that every parent
should know about. But in large part, it's parents, along with educators
and churches, who have fallen down on the job here.
These girls talk about parents who stress the importance of academic and
career achievement but never talk to them about how to make
relationships work, and often fail to set the example of a good marriage.
For "romantic" education, they turn their kids over to the schools, who
teach them all about the technical side of sex and little else. Sadly, our
kids, who know more information about sex than possibly any previous
generation, know almost nothing about how-or even why-to maintain
loving relationships.
Thus, a pattern is emerging of young women and men too busy, and too
determined on independence, to build real relationships. They engage in
brief sexual encounters with partners they hardly know, both parties
seeking control and freedom from hurt-and yet, somehow, guess what?
They end up hurting anyway. In failing to teach our kids how to love,
we've unwittingly sentenced them to a sexual landscape that's nothing
more than a barren wasteland.
Even many of Stepp's subjects recognize how backwards it is that they
find it easier to go to bed with a stranger, than to walk across campus
holding hands with a young man they like. They recognize it-but they
have no idea how to change it. And, according to Stepp, biblical
messages on this topic are not getting through to them either.
Does all this mean there's no hope for our kids to be able to live lives of
purity? Not at all. Make sure you read the next two commentaries,
because I'm going to be talking about what we as Christian parents can
do to keep our kids from ending up scarred, jaded, and wary of love and
commitment. In particular, Monday's commentary, just after Father's
Day weekend, will focus on the difference that dads make-a difference
that's much bigger than you might realize.
As Stepp says in her book, "Fathers and adolescent daughters do less
together than fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, and mothers and
sons. Would they do more if they knew that their daughters might drink
less often, start dating later and begin sex later if they paid more
attention? That's what the research shows." For more on what that
means for you and your kids, be sure to read Monday's "BreakPoint."
Note: This commentary was delivered by Prison Fellowship President
Mark Earley.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
For Further Reading and Information
Laura Sessions Stepp, Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex,
Delay Love and Lose at Both (Riverhead, 2007).
Miriam Grossman, Unprotected (Sentinel, 2007).
"Unhooked: The New Cultures of Casual Sex," MSNBC.com, 5 March
2007.
Lauren Green, "Chastity or Not: The Pressures of Sex Influencing The
Quest For Love" Fox News Blog, 24 May 2007.
Regis Nicoll, "On Campuses, Purity is a 'Relic,'" The Point, 26 March
2007.
Breakpoint Commentary No. 070214, "A Chaste Approach to Sex:
Princeton's Anscombe Society."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 060214, "Providing a Rationale: The
Biblical Case for Chastity."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 050915, "Moral Sexuality in a Morally
Neutral World: Smart Sex."
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"Promises Promises" <pp_aery_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Stepp spent time with high school and college girls who were all, to some
extent, participating in this ubiquitous "hookup culture." Their
experiences-as disturbing as they are-are something that every parent
should know about. But in large part, it's parents, along with educators
and churches, who have fallen down on the job here.
These girls talk about parents who stress the importance of academic and
career achievement but never talk to them about how to make
relationships work, and often fail to set the example of a good marriage.
For "romantic" education, they turn their kids over to the schools, who
teach them all about the technical side of sex and little else. Sadly, our
kids, who know more information about sex than possibly any previous
generation, know almost nothing about how-or even why-to maintain
loving relationships.
Thus, a pattern is emerging of young women and men too busy, and too
determined on independence, to build real relationships. They engage in
brief sexual encounters with partners they hardly know, both parties
seeking control and freedom from hurt-and yet, somehow, guess what?
They end up hurting anyway. In failing to teach our kids how to love,
we've unwittingly sentenced them to a sexual landscape that's nothing
more than a barren wasteland.
Even many of Stepp's subjects recognize how backwards it is that they
find it easier to go to bed with a stranger, than to walk across campus
holding hands with a young man they like. They recognize it-but they
have no idea how to change it. And, according to Stepp, biblical
messages on this topic are not getting through to them either.
Does all this mean there's no hope for our kids to be able to live lives
of
purity? Not at all. Make sure you read the next two commentaries,
because I'm going to be talking about what we as Christian parents can
do to keep our kids from ending up scarred, jaded, and wary of love and
commitment. In particular, Monday's commentary, just after Father's
Day weekend, will focus on the difference that dads make-a difference
that's much bigger than you might realize.
As Stepp says in her book, "Fathers and adolescent daughters do less
together than fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, and mothers and
sons. Would they do more if they knew that their daughters might drink
less often, start dating later and begin sex later if they paid more
attention? That's what the research shows." For more on what that
means for you and your kids, be sure to read Monday's "BreakPoint."
Note: This commentary was delivered by Prison Fellowship President
Mark Earley.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
For Further Reading and Information
Laura Sessions Stepp, Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex,
Delay Love and Lose at Both (Riverhead, 2007).
Miriam Grossman, Unprotected (Sentinel, 2007).
"Unhooked: The New Cultures of Casual Sex," MSNBC.com, 5 March
2007.
Lauren Green, "Chastity or Not: The Pressures of Sex Influencing The
Quest For Love" Fox News Blog, 24 May 2007.
Regis Nicoll, "On Campuses, Purity is a 'Relic,'" The Point, 26 March
2007.
Breakpoint Commentary No. 070214, "A Chaste Approach to Sex:
Princeton's Anscombe Society."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 060214, "Providing a Rationale: The
Biblical Case for Chastity."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 050915, "Moral Sexuality in a Morally
Neutral World: Smart Sex."
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Thank you for posting that! God Bless!
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18 Jun 2007 01:11:46 AM |
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On 15 Jun., 18:33, "Gabriel" <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10qnrg.hv2.17.1@news.alt.net...
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Stepp spent time with high school and college girls who were all, to so=
me
extent, participating in this ubiquitous "hookup culture." Their
experiences-as disturbing as they are-are something that every parent
should know about. But in large part, it's parents, along with educators
and churches, who have fallen down on the job here.
These girls talk about parents who stress the importance of academic and
career achievement but never talk to them about how to make
relationships work, and often fail to set the example of a good marriag=
e=2E
For "romantic" education, they turn their kids over to the schools, who
teach them all about the technical side of sex and little else. Sadly, =
our
kids, who know more information about sex than possibly any previous
generation, know almost nothing about how-or even why-to maintain
loving relationships.
Thus, a pattern is emerging of young women and men too busy, and too
determined on independence, to build real relationships. They engage in
brief sexual encounters with partners they hardly know, both parties
seeking control and freedom from hurt-and yet, somehow, guess what?
They end up hurting anyway. In failing to teach our kids how to love,
we've unwittingly sentenced them to a sexual landscape that's nothing
more than a barren wasteland.
Even many of Stepp's subjects recognize how backwards it is that they
find it easier to go to bed with a stranger, than to walk across campus
holding hands with a young man they like. They recognize it-but they
have no idea how to change it. And, according to Stepp, biblical
messages on this topic are not getting through to them either.
Does all this mean there's no hope for our kids to be able to live lives
of
purity? Not at all. Make sure you read the next two commentaries,
because I'm going to be talking about what we as Christian parents can
do to keep our kids from ending up scarred, jaded, and wary of love and
commitment. In particular, Monday's commentary, just after Father's
Day weekend, will focus on the difference that dads make-a difference
that's much bigger than you might realize.
As Stepp says in her book, "Fathers and adolescent daughters do less
together than fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, and mothers and
sons. Would they do more if they knew that their daughters might drink
less often, start dating later and begin sex later if they paid more
attention? That's what the research shows." For more on what that
means for you and your kids, be sure to read Monday's "BreakPoint."
Note: This commentary was delivered by Prison Fellowship President
Mark Earley.
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For Further Reading and Information
Laura Sessions Stepp, Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex,
Delay Love and Lose at Both (Riverhead, 2007).
Miriam Grossman, Unprotected (Sentinel, 2007).
"Unhooked: The New Cultures of Casual Sex," MSNBC.com, 5 March
2007.
Lauren Green, "Chastity or Not: The Pressures of Sex Influencing The
Quest For Love" Fox News Blog, 24 May 2007.
Regis Nicoll, "On Campuses, Purity is a 'Relic,'" The Point, 26 March
2007.
Breakpoint Commentary No. 070214, "A Chaste Approach to Sex:
Princeton's Anscombe Society."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 060214, "Providing a Rationale: The
Biblical Case for Chastity."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 050915, "Moral Sexuality in a Morally
Neutral World: Smart Sex."
--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
Thank you for posting that! God Bless!- Skjul tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -
- Vis tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -
Yes, it confirms how sick your religion is, as do your posts.
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15 Jun 2007 08:16:14 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:33:56 GMT, "Gabriel"
<gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for posting that! God Bless!
Which one?
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15 Jun 2007 08:54:40 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:33:56 +0000, Gabriel wrote:
"Promises Promises" <pp_aery_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10qnrg.hv2.17.1@news.alt.net...
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Stepp spent time with high school and college girls who were all, to some
extent, participating in this ubiquitous "hookup culture." Their
experiences-as disturbing as they are-are something that every parent
should know about. But in large part, it's parents, along with educators
and churches, who have fallen down on the job here.
These girls talk about parents who stress the importance of academic and
career achievement but never talk to them about how to make
relationships work, and often fail to set the example of a good marriage.
For "romantic" education, they turn their kids over to the schools, who
teach them all about the technical side of sex and little else. Sadly, our
kids, who know more information about sex than possibly any previous
generation, know almost nothing about how-or even why-to maintain
loving relationships.
Thus, a pattern is emerging of young women and men too busy, and too
determined on independence, to build real relationships. They engage in
brief sexual encounters with partners they hardly know, both parties
seeking control and freedom from hurt-and yet, somehow, guess what?
They end up hurting anyway. In failing to teach our kids how to love,
we've unwittingly sentenced them to a sexual landscape that's nothing
more than a barren wasteland.
Even many of Stepp's subjects recognize how backwards it is that they
find it easier to go to bed with a stranger, than to walk across campus
holding hands with a young man they like. They recognize it-but they
have no idea how to change it. And, according to Stepp, biblical
messages on this topic are not getting through to them either.
Does all this mean there's no hope for our kids to be able to live lives
of
purity? Not at all. Make sure you read the next two commentaries,
because I'm going to be talking about what we as Christian parents can
do to keep our kids from ending up scarred, jaded, and wary of love and
commitment. In particular, Monday's commentary, just after Father's
Day weekend, will focus on the difference that dads make-a difference
that's much bigger than you might realize.
As Stepp says in her book, "Fathers and adolescent daughters do less
together than fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, and mothers and
sons. Would they do more if they knew that their daughters might drink
less often, start dating later and begin sex later if they paid more
attention? That's what the research shows." For more on what that
means for you and your kids, be sure to read Monday's "BreakPoint."
Note: This commentary was delivered by Prison Fellowship President
Mark Earley.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
For Further Reading and Information
Laura Sessions Stepp, Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex,
Delay Love and Lose at Both (Riverhead, 2007).
Miriam Grossman, Unprotected (Sentinel, 2007).
"Unhooked: The New Cultures of Casual Sex," MSNBC.com, 5 March
2007.
Lauren Green, "Chastity or Not: The Pressures of Sex Influencing The
Quest For Love" Fox News Blog, 24 May 2007.
Regis Nicoll, "On Campuses, Purity is a 'Relic,'" The Point, 26 March
2007.
Breakpoint Commentary No. 070214, "A Chaste Approach to Sex:
Princeton's Anscombe Society."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 060214, "Providing a Rationale: The
Biblical Case for Chastity."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 050915, "Moral Sexuality in a Morally
Neutral World: Smart Sex."
--
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Thank you for posting that! God Bless!
Oh take it to a religious ng already.
(Or get a room)
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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15 Jun 2007 12:39:49 PM |
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On 16 jun, 14:56, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Stepp spent time with high school and college girls who were all, to some
extent, participating in this ubiquitous "hookup culture." Their
experiences-as disturbing as they are-are something that every parent
should know about. But in large part, it's parents, along with educators
and churches, who have fallen down on the job here.
These girls talk about parents who stress the importance of academic and
career achievement but never talk to them about how to make
relationships work, and often fail to set the example of a good marriage.
For "romantic" education, they turn their kids over to the schools, who
teach them all about the technical side of sex and little else. Sadly, our
kids, who know more information about sex than possibly any previous
generation, know almost nothing about how-or even why-to maintain
loving relationships.
Thus, a pattern is emerging of young women and men too busy, and too
determined on independence, to build real relationships. They engage in
brief sexual encounters with partners they hardly know, both parties
seeking control and freedom from hurt-and yet, somehow, guess what?
They end up hurting anyway. In failing to teach our kids how to love,
we've unwittingly sentenced them to a sexual landscape that's nothing
more than a barren wasteland.
Even many of Stepp's subjects recognize how backwards it is that they
find it easier to go to bed with a stranger, than to walk across campus
holding hands with a young man they like. They recognize it-but they
have no idea how to change it. And, according to Stepp, biblical
messages on this topic are not getting through to them either.
Does all this mean there's no hope for our kids to be able to live lives =
of
purity? Not at all. Make sure you read the next two commentaries,
because I'm going to be talking about what we as Christian parents can
do to keep our kids from ending up scarred, jaded, and wary of love and
commitment. In particular, Monday's commentary, just after Father's
Day weekend, will focus on the difference that dads make-a difference
that's much bigger than you might realize.
As Stepp says in her book, "Fathers and adolescent daughters do less
together than fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, and mothers and
sons. Would they do more if they knew that their daughters might drink
less often, start dating later and begin sex later if they paid more
attention? That's what the research shows." For more on what that
means for you and your kids, be sure to read Monday's "BreakPoint."
Note: This commentary was delivered by Prison Fellowship President
Mark Earley.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
For Further Reading and Information
Laura Sessions Stepp, Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex,
Delay Love and Lose at Both (Riverhead, 2007).
Miriam Grossman, Unprotected (Sentinel, 2007).
"Unhooked: The New Cultures of Casual Sex," MSNBC.com, 5 March
2007.
Lauren Green, "Chastity or Not: The Pressures of Sex Influencing The
Quest For Love" Fox News Blog, 24 May 2007.
Regis Nicoll, "On Campuses, Purity is a 'Relic,'" The Point, 26 March
2007.
Breakpoint Commentary No. 070214, "A Chaste Approach to Sex:
Princeton's Anscombe Society."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 060214, "Providing a Rationale: The
Biblical Case for Chastity."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 050915, "Moral Sexuality in a Morally
Neutral World: Smart Sex."
--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
Hard to find any serious research,
the reason probably is that professors have a higher divorce rate than
any other group, and they don't want anybody to find out it was their
own fault:)
Here's one though:
Couple Therapy
The Seven Principles That Make a Relationship Work
Sex therapy and relationship therapy go hand in hand. The divorce
statistics range anywhere from 50 - 60% in America. Marital
researcher, John Gottman, PhD, has come up with seven principles that
can help your marriage thrive.
Dr. Gottman has researched long-term marriages that work for over 20
years. His research methods have been both unique and thorough as he
collected data from the marital subjects by interviews and videotaped
daily interaction. His team of researchers also measured heart rate,
blood flow, sweat output, blood pressure, and immune function moment
by moment. As a result Dr. Gottman states that he is able to predict
divorce with 91% accuracy. The prediction is largely based on the
presence of what he calls the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in the
couple interactions. They are:
=B7 Criticism - Attacking the person instead of stating how you feel
about the troublesome behavior.
=B7 Defensiveness - High tension and lack of listening when discussing.
=B7 Contempt - Lack of respect and sarcasm in response to or about your
partner.
=B7 Stonewalling - Emotional shutdown and unresponsiveness in response
to attempts to communicate, especially about areas of conflict.
Dr. Gottman found two other important hallmarks of a long lasting
healthy marriage.
=B7 5 positives to 1 negative
=B7 The presence of marital conflict that gets resolved.
Not an easy thing to teach a young girl, I suppose.
I don't think I could do it,
I could tell the girl: Don't get pregnant, and don't get any venerial
diseases.
But that is not on Dr. Gottmans list, as you can see!
Peter van Velzen
June 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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15 Jun 2007 12:15:01 PM |
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On 16 jun, 14:56, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Stepp spent time with high school and college girls who were all, to some
extent, participating in this ubiquitous "hookup culture." Their
experiences-as disturbing as they are-are something that every parent
should know about. But in large part, it's parents, along with educators
and churches, who have fallen down on the job here.
These girls talk about parents who stress the importance of academic and
career achievement but never talk to them about how to make
relationships work, and often fail to set the example of a good marriage.
For "romantic" education, they turn their kids over to the schools, who
teach them all about the technical side of sex and little else. Sadly, our
kids, who know more information about sex than possibly any previous
generation, know almost nothing about how-or even why-to maintain
loving relationships.
Thus, a pattern is emerging of young women and men too busy, and too
determined on independence, to build real relationships. They engage in
brief sexual encounters with partners they hardly know, both parties
seeking control and freedom from hurt-and yet, somehow, guess what?
They end up hurting anyway. In failing to teach our kids how to love,
we've unwittingly sentenced them to a sexual landscape that's nothing
more than a barren wasteland.
Even many of Stepp's subjects recognize how backwards it is that they
find it easier to go to bed with a stranger, than to walk across campus
holding hands with a young man they like. They recognize it-but they
have no idea how to change it. And, according to Stepp, biblical
messages on this topic are not getting through to them either.
Does all this mean there's no hope for our kids to be able to live lives of
purity? Not at all. Make sure you read the next two commentaries,
because I'm going to be talking about what we as Christian parents can
do to keep our kids from ending up scarred, jaded, and wary of love and
commitment. In particular, Monday's commentary, just after Father's
Day weekend, will focus on the difference that dads make-a difference
that's much bigger than you might realize.
As Stepp says in her book, "Fathers and adolescent daughters do less
together than fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, and mothers and
sons. Would they do more if they knew that their daughters might drink
less often, start dating later and begin sex later if they paid more
attention? That's what the research shows." For more on what that
means for you and your kids, be sure to read Monday's "BreakPoint."
Note: This commentary was delivered by Prison Fellowship President
Mark Earley.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
For Further Reading and Information
Laura Sessions Stepp, Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex,
Delay Love and Lose at Both (Riverhead, 2007).
Miriam Grossman, Unprotected (Sentinel, 2007).
"Unhooked: The New Cultures of Casual Sex," MSNBC.com, 5 March
2007.
Lauren Green, "Chastity or Not: The Pressures of Sex Influencing The
Quest For Love" Fox News Blog, 24 May 2007.
Regis Nicoll, "On Campuses, Purity is a 'Relic,'" The Point, 26 March
2007.
Breakpoint Commentary No. 070214, "A Chaste Approach to Sex:
Princeton's Anscombe Society."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 060214, "Providing a Rationale: The
Biblical Case for Chastity."
Breakpoint Commentary No. 050915, "Moral Sexuality in a Morally
Neutral World: Smart Sex."
--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
Sorry do you have any data on parents that do talk about how to make
relationships work, and the influence that has on the succes of their
children in this affect?
Strangely people who stress the importance of it (like Roman Catholic
Popes, and Buddist Monks) mostly have no experience whatsoever!
Could it be that relationships for their succes depend on the partners
not be consious of what they are doing?
I know how my parents did it,
they genuinly cared for each other.
Maybe that's the only way.
Care ans seek someone who does.
I'll go on a google search,
and if I finds anything,
I let you know.
Before that, I'll go and check whether my wife is happy
Peter van Velzen
June 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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20 Jun 2007 08:00:04 AM |
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[snips]
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:15:01 -0700, wrote:
Sorry do you have any data on parents that do talk about how to make
relationships work, and the influence that has on the succes of their
children in this affect?
I'd be more interested in how his data deals with alternative sexuality,
and, in reference to your comment, what effect - if any - such parental
informing has on subsequent relationships based on non-traditional forms.
I know how my parents did it,
they genuinly cared for each other.
Maybe that's the only way.
Care ans seek someone who does.
Dunno if that's the whole answer, but it certainly couldn't hurt matters
any.
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"It's OK, Jimmy: Even Jesus would cheat on Tammy Faye."
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15 Jun 2007 10:41:38 AM |
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On Jun 16, 5:56 am, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Someone still hasn't gotten their rocks off :)
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15 Jun 2007 03:09:43 PM |
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On Jun 16, 5:56 am, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Someone still hasn't gotten their rocks off :)
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it. Why would anyone want to wait until they are beyond the
point of no return to find out if they are really prepared to meet God
and to face eternity?
I want to know what death means and what waits for me on the other side.
That's why I appreciate the fact that God sent His own Son into the world
to tell us what we need to know.
Jesus came and told us what to expect on the other side. Faithful men of
God wrote down all that God has revealed by His Son, and by the Spirit
through the prophets before Jesus. In the Bible (both the Old and the New
Testament) God provides the human race with a complete record of what we
need to know to be spiritually prepared for physical death.
Moses wrote down the facts of God's holy and righteous nature, and
provided the people of his day with a Teaching (a Torah) of all that God
wants and expects of people in our day-to-day living. In the days of
that first covenant (the Old Testament) nations and individuals were
judged on the basis of their compliance with God's revelation and
commands. Many faithful prophets in those days wrote down predictions
and warnings and instruction to help flesh out our understanding of God's
ways.
Then God sent His very own Son into the world. Jesus Christ came into
the world as the living Word of God, the perfect revelation of God's will
and God's nature. Where Moses had given us a set of commandments, Jesus
Christ came to bring us mercy and truth.
We need mercy, God's grace, to help us escape the trouble caused by our
own failure to do what God really wants of us. And, as the Bible says,
we have all failed at some point to meet God's perfect standard of
righteousness. Only Jesus Himself has not failed. He was a perfect human
being. And thankfully, He was more than that.
Jesus bought us grace in God's eyes by taking all the penalty for our
failures. He became sin for us so that we can become God's own perfect
righteousness in Christ. It's a case of trading places.
The Bible has a lot more to say about all these things. It is the inside
information we need to understand what God has done for us through Jesus
Christ. And the Bible tells us how to be sure we are ready to face God.
In a nut shell Jesus summed it up like this: "I tell you truthfully that
whoever who hears My message and believes in Him who sent Me has
everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from
death into life." (Read this for yourself in John 5:24, in the New
Testament of the Holy Bible.)
What Jesus is saying is that if we pay attention to what He says, and if
we believe God who sent Him, then we will not be judged with the rest of
the world for our failures in this life. We will have passed beyond
judgment, on into eternal life. That, my friend, is very good news.
God is not interested in destroying human lives. We do too good a job of
that on our own. God wants everyone to be saved, to be rescued from
eternal ruin. He wants us to live with Him in eternity. That's why
Jesus came to earth.
And Jesus made it possible for everyone and anyone to be forgiven, saved,
and rescued from sin when He died on the cross. He is called in
Scripture, "the Lamb of God" that takes away the sins of the world.
That's what He did. He took away the sin that would otherwise keep us
from God forever.
So now God is free to make His offer to everyone. We can become His
children by faith in Jesus Christ. We can be ready to die and ready to
truly live. In Jesus Christ we can become right with God and we can even
have His Holy Spirit inside to make us truly children of God forever.
That's the inside information God has given us. We can accept God's
offer or reject it. To accept it is to be made clean inside. To reject
it is to continue on in our own self-imposed darkness, and to die in our
sins. That would be a bad way to go into eternity. The better way to
get right with God here and now, and to face death someday with Christ as
our Savior.
Anyway, the whole story is found in the Bible. The part you need to read
first is in the New Testament. That's the part that tells us all about
Jesus and what it means to believe in Him. But all of the Bible is very
valuable information. The Old Testament shows us just how bad things can
be without God, and gives practical examples of how to walk everyday with
the Lord. You will really like the Psalms and Proverbs, as well as the
prophets.
There you go. Now you know. The rest is up to you.
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16 Jun 2007 01:23:53 AM |
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In article <10rh8d.hrr.19.1@news.alt.net>,
"Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_910@yahoo.com> wrote:
"g28401" <notrilia.republic@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181922098.606816.306250@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 5:56 am, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Someone still hasn't gotten their rocks off :)
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it.
Been there. Done that. I found none.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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18 Jun 2007 01:16:08 AM |
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On 15 Jun., 22:09, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"g28401" <notrilia.repub...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1181922098.606816.306250@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 5:56 am, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Someone still hasn't gotten their rocks off :)
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it. Why would anyone want to wait until they are beyond the
point of no return to find out if they are really prepared to meet God
and to face eternity?
Why would anyone listen to a pompous twit?
snip
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15 Jun 2007 08:15:02 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:09:43 -0400, "Promises Promises"
<pxp_ry_910@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ
Because sane adults know it's not "good news", but merely the
religious beliefs of mental defectives?
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15 Jun 2007 08:05:56 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:09:43 -0400, Promises Promises wrote:
"g28401" <notrilia.republic@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1181922098.606816.306250@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 5:56 am, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Someone still hasn't gotten their rocks off :)
Many of the people I know are always looking...
....for the door.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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16 Jun 2007 12:50:41 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message news:pan.2007.06.16.01.05.55.662449@com.mkbilbo...
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:09:43 -0400, Promises Promises wrote:
"g28401" <notrilia.republic@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1181922098.606816.306250@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 5:56 am, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Someone still hasn't gotten their rocks off :)
Many of the people I know are always looking...
...for the door. Nope!
Where Are We Headed
In these last days, we are seeing terrorist attacks, earthquakes, tsunamis,
hurricanes, mudslides, and many other natural disasters - the Lord told us
these things must happen, and He compared them to the birth pangs of a woman.
We see these events getting worse, seemingly with more frequency. Having said
that, these are not the only signs He gave us to show us when His return would
be near: There was the sign of knowledge increasing; people traveling more
often and to greater distances Dan 12:4 ; the persecution of Christians is
starting to become a prophecy-fulfillment, as we see many countries adopting
laws prohibiting Christian activities. We can no longer have the Ten
Commandments in some places; some words, such as Christmas, are now considered
offensive; we see Christian churches accepting homosexual preachers. And there
are so many more things happening that tell us Jesus is coming.
One of the reasons I have for writing this book is the fact that there are many
Christians who teach others that they should not study the Book of Revelation.
They give many reasons for this: Some say it's too confusing, and no one can
understand it; others say it's not meant to be read. While the excuses are
never- ending, I'm here to tell you three reasons why you should study the Book
of Revelation.
First, Revelation is the only book with the promise of being blessed if you
read it. Rev. i:3 Blessed is he who reads the words of this prophecy... God
does not change His mind - whoever reads His Revelation will be blessed. Yet we
still see people teaching that we should not study this book. God knew that
would happen, so He promised a blessing for those of us who read it, who hear
it and, of course, for those who adhere to that which is in it.
The second reason to study the book is that it is the Revelation of Jesus
Christ Himself. If you believe in Him, you should read His revelation. He told
John to write it because He had you in mind. Consider it a letter directly from
Jesus to you. When I read it, I realize He wrote it with a desire for me to
read it. And as I read it, I'm also blessed knowing He is showing me things
that the Old Testament prophets would have loved to have read and understood.
The third reason to study the book is that prophecy glorifies God when it is
fulfilled. Prophecy is what God promises will happen in the future. Because we
live in time, no man or angel knows the future. God lives in eternity, allowing
Him to see the future and the past as if it is the present. The prophecy in the
Bible proves to us that it could only have come from God. Some prophets wrote
down a prophecy and asked God for the interpretation, which shows us they were
not the authors of the Bible. When Daniel asked God for the meaning of some
prophecies God gave him, God told him it was not for him to understand; rather,
it was for those living in the last days. Dan 12:8. Having said that, if we
read the Book of Revelation and understand God's prophecies that are about to
happen, will we not give God the glory when they do happen? Of course we will.
So as you see them start to happen, you can tell God, "Lord, you said it would
happen, and it did happen as you said. I give you all the glory."
I want to say this to all my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ: I believe
Jesus Christ is about to return, and I want to challenge you to read this book
so that you may understand some of the signs that are happening at this very
moment in preparation for His return. This book arranges the prophecies of the
Book of Revelation chronologically so that God's prophecies will be easier to
understand. My intentions are to get you to realize that the Book of Revelation
shows us how great and just our God and Savior is. I truly believe that we are
at the brink of the moment when we will meet Jesus in the air. That's why I
felt the need to write this book.
I want to mention that I saw a show on TV in which thousands of Christians from
another country were all worshiping God. Our faith is global, which has made me
realize that when the rapture takes place, millions of us including, Catholics,
Protestants, and all those who believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior, will
meet our King, Jesus Christ, in the air. I can't wait to be together with all
of you in the presence of the One who made me - He is my hero, Jesus Christ.
I want to mention one more thing, today Christians are being tested, we have
seen movies like the passion of the Christ and we can read books like the
Davinci code along with the movie, God is putting the ball in your court and He
wants to know if you will you believe in Christ as God the Son and as your
savior or will you doubt in Him? It's your decision, and I hope that after
reading this book you will be able to make a clear decision in accepting Jesus
as your savior and that you will believe everything that He said about Himself.
Let me give you the example of the two thieves on the cross; when Jesus was
crucified two thieves were crucified next to Him, they both knew that Jesus was
claiming to be the Christ, but they saw that He was about to die, and so one of
them said; if you are the Christ; come down, save yourself and save us, in
other words; if you are really the Christ why are you on the cross? There is no
way that I will believe in you or in what you say since you are about to die,
and we know that the Christ is supposed to be a King who will live forever and
have a kingdom that will never end. This man made the decision to reject Jesus
as his Savior and he did not believe that He was the Christ. Jesus did not say
a word to that man, but the other thief said; do you not fear God, we deserve
death for our sins but this man has done nothing wrong, Lord, I believe that
you are the Christ even though you are on a cross, I see past the circumstances
and I put my faith in you, so please remember me when you come in your kingdom,
in other words; when you come to be King of this earth, don't forget about me.
Jesus did answer him, He said; today you will be with me in paradise. Both
thieves saw the one who claimed to be the Christ, and what they saw caused
doubts yet one chose not to believe while the other one believed and is now in
paradise, in this life there are a lot of doubts, what decision will you chose
to take?
The Promise of His Return
John was with the disciples in the presence of the resurrected Christ, and they
asked Jesus if He was finally going to be the King of Israel Jer. 23:5-6 just
as the prophets had promised. Acts \-.6-i Then, indeed, these coming together,
they asked Him, saying, Lord, do You at this time restore the kingdom to
Israel? (the disciples asked Him If He would be King now?) And He said to them,
It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in
His own authority (We notice that Jesus did not deny that He will be King of
Israel, but it was not time yet). Acts i:9-n And saying these things, as they
watched, He was taken up. And a cloud received Him out of their sight. And
while they were looking intently into the Heaven, He having gone, even behold,
two men in white clothing stood beside them, who also said, Men of Galilee, why
do you stand gazing up into the Heaven? This same Jesus who is taken up from
you into Heaven, will come in the way you have seen Him going into Heaven. The
disciples of Jesus Christ were eyewitnesses to His ascension on a cloud into
Heaven, and they had been told that just as Jesus went up into the clouds, He
would return in the clouds. They are the authors of the New Testament, and they
are the ones who tell us of His glorious return in the clouds, and we are
getting close to that day.
There are so many verses in the New Testament that say that Jesus will come in
the clouds, and we also see this in the Old Testament, such as in Dan 7:13 /
saw in the night visions, and behold, One like the Son of man (Jesus) came with
the clouds of Heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days (God the Father), and
they brought Him near before Him. The reason He constantly talks about
returning in the clouds is because He wants us to look up into Heaven in
anticipation of His return, so keep your eyes on Him. He told us to be ready,
to watch for His return! This also prevents us from believing in those who
claim to be Jesus Christ since we are told that He will come in the clouds and
every eye will see Him Rev i:7 when He comes back. That is why no one should
have believed David Koresh, and no one should believe the hundreds of men who
today say that they are Jesus Christ.
THE PROMISE:
JESUS WAS TAKEN UP IN THE CLOUDS AND-HE WILL RETURN IN THE CLOUDS
I want to explain the whole verse of Revelation 1:7 Behold, He comes with the
clouds, and every eye will see Him, and those who pierced Him will see Him, and
all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him. Even so, Amen. We read
that He will come in the clouds and "every eye will see Him" this includes
those who "pierced Him" but those who pierced Christ are dead, so how is this
possible? We must first learn that we all pierced Him since He died for us in
our place, but this scripture is also speaking of those who rejected Him and
are now dead, they will be able to see Him from hell because they are not
limited to the earthly eyes which can only see within a short distance, God
will allow them to see our Lord who they rejected, when He takes those
Christians who trusted in Him and in His promises. As they see this event
happen they will be filled with sorrow along with those on earth watching the
saints rejoicing as Christ receives them and gives them white robes while those
who rejected Him cannot have part in this awesome event known as the rapture
that is why we read "all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him."
All those who did not believe in the Word of God will realize that His promises
were true but it will be too late for them. Hopefully you will not be one of
those wailing but rather one of those caught up to meet Jesus in the air. 1 Th
4:17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in
the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall ever be with the Lord.
Do not miss out on this event!
The idea that someone can see far distances is not unbiblical for we see that
Stephen who was on earth saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God in Heaven.
Act 7:55 But being full of the Holy Spirit, looking up intently into Heaven, he
saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. Act 7:56 And
he said, Behold, I see Heaven opened and the Son of Man standing on the right
hand of God. This proves that those who pierced Jesus will indeed see Him from
hell when He raptures the church.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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16 Jun 2007 11:00:46 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 01:50:41 -0400, "Promises Promises"
<pxp_ry_910@yahoo.com> wrote:
In these last days
Aren't you people getting tired yet? It's been "in these last days"
for 2,000 years now.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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16 Jun 2007 01:17:15 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 02:50:41 -0400, Promises Promises wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message news:pan.2007.06.16.01.05.55.662449@com.mkbilbo...
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:09:43 -0400, Promises Promises wrote:
"g28401" <notrilia.republic@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1181922098.606816.306250@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 5:56 am, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Someone still hasn't gotten their rocks off :)
Many of the people I know are always looking...
...for the door. Nope!
Where Are We Headed
Over that way.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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15 Jun 2007 05:52:07 PM |
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On Jun 15, 3:09 pm, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it. Why would anyone want to wait until they are beyond the
point of no return to find out if they are really prepared to meet God
and to face eternity?
<rest of crap snipped>
Now, how'd I guess this post was leading into relgious dogma?
Brindal
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| User: "Promises Promises" |
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16 Jun 2007 01:03:21 AM |
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"Brindal" <Brindal87@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1181947927.516753.200090@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 15, 3:09 pm, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it. Why would anyone want to wait until they are beyond the
point of no return to find out if they are really prepared to meet God
and to face eternity?
<rest of crap snipped>
Now, how'd I guess this post was leading into relgious dogma?
Strong Delusion
God will let the world believe a lie. Why does He do that? Isn't that a
little unfair? No, it is just like it was when God hardened Pharaoh's
heart. Pharaoh wasn't weeping for the children of Israel, longing to let
them go free, being held back from his good intentions by God! If you think
that, you are entirely wrong. Pharaoh did not want to let them go, and what
God did was to force him to make a stand and come to a decision. God forced
him into a situation which revealed what was already in his heart. We see a
lot of people *****-footing around today. They won't take a stand for God.
They won't listen to the gospel. They are closed to it. God graciously
gives them His Word, but they don't want it. After they have heard the Word
of God but have refused to accept it, God will send them "strong delusion."
Why? Because they would not receive the truth. Then they are open to
believe the lie.
God is separating the sheep from the goats. God uses the best way in the
world to do it. If people will not receive the love of the truth, then God
sends them a "strong delusion, that they should believe a lie." What is the
"lie"? The lie of Antichrist is that Jesus Christ is not the Lord, that He
is not who He says He is. He will tell people that they are really smart in
not becoming religious nuts who believe in Jesus. He'll have some good
explanation for the departure of the saints from the earth at the Rapture
and will congratulate the people on having waited to build a kingdom on
earth with him. The people will believe him and will believe that
Antichrist will bring them the Millennium. They will not realize that they
are entering into the Great Tribulation. That is the lie, and people will
believe it because they believed not the truth.
McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981). Thru the Bible commentary. Based on the Thru
the Bible radio program. (electronic ed.) (5:416). Nashville: Thomas
Nelson.
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17 Jun 2007 04:33:16 PM |
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On Jun 16, 1:03 am, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Brindal" <Brinda...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1181947927.516753.200090@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 15, 3:09 pm, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it. Why would anyone want to wait until they are beyond the
point of no return to find out if they are really prepared to meet God
and to face eternity?
<rest of crap snipped>
Now, how'd I guess this post was leading into relgious dogma?
Strong Delusion
<crap snipped>
That is EXACTLY what you are under!!! A strong, wrong delusion!
Now stuff it and get outa here. . .your type belongs on a city street
corner yelling into the crowd.
Brindal
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17 Jun 2007 09:05:55 PM |
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"Brindal" <Brindal87@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1182115996.676916.205370@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 1:03 am, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Brindal" <Brinda...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1181947927.516753.200090@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 15, 3:09 pm, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it. Why would anyone want to wait until they are beyond the
point of no return to find out if they are really prepared to meet God
and to face eternity?
<rest of crap snipped>
Now, how'd I guess this post was leading into relgious dogma?
Strong Delusion
<crap snipped>
That is EXACTLY what you are under!!! A strong, wrong delusion!
Now stuff it and get outa here. . .your type belongs on a city street
corner yelling into the crowd.
Brindal
U1st! (-:
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16 Jun 2007 04:55:55 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 03:03:21 -0400, Promises Promises wrote:
McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981)
Do you have his permission to redistribute?
Or do you just enjoy breaking laws?
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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15 Jun 2007 05:59:16 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:52:07 -0700, Brindal <Brindal87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Jun 15, 3:09 pm, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it. Why would anyone want to wait until they are beyond the
point of no return to find out if they are really prepared to meet God
and to face eternity?
Why don't these morons think before posting such stupidity?
He has a heck of a lot of work to do before he can call it "good
news".
First of all he has to demonstrate that Jesus, God and heaven are more
than merely his religious beliefs.
<rest of crap snipped>
Now, how'd I guess this post was leading into relgious dogma?
Something to do with the moron's pretentiously stupid nym?
Brindal
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| User: "Promises Promises" |
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16 Jun 2007 01:01:34 AM |
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"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message news:656673timfnclo17ig48dav8q5eci2kvdf@4ax.com...
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:52:07 -0700, Brindal <Brindal87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Jun 15, 3:09 pm, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it. Why would anyone want to wait until they are beyond the
point of no return to find out if they are really prepared to meet God
and to face eternity?
Why don't these morons think before posting such stupidity?
He has a heck of a lot of work to do before he can call it "good
news".
First of all he has to demonstrate that Jesus, God and heaven are more
than merely his religious beliefs.
<rest of crap snipped>
Now, how'd I guess this post was leading into relgious dogma?
Something to do with the moron's pretentiously stupid nym?
UR Welcome!
The Certainty of Christ's Return
The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that
he would shew them a sign from heaven.
He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair
weather: for the sky is red.
And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and
lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not
discern the signs of the times? (Matthew 16:1-3)
When the Lord Jesus Christ came into the world over nineteen hundred
years ago, His coming had been so minutely foretold that we wonder how
anyone could fail to recognize Him when He came. As someone has said,
"Jesus came into the world with so many identification tags on Him that it
seems no one could miss recognizing Him as the promised Messiah when
He finally came." His coming had been foretold in hundreds of prophecies,
His ministry heralded by John the Baptist and evidenced by all the signs
which the prophets had foretold. It seems that the theologians of that day
should immediately have recognized this One, whose coming was the theme
of all the Old Testament prophecies and Scriptures. The prophets had
foretold the tribe from which He would come, the line of His genealogy, the
place where He would be born in Bethlehem and even prophesied His virgin
birth. Yet, when He came, they missed Him entirely.
His Miracles
In addition to all these identification marks, He came also with signs and
wonders and miracles, to prove that He was the promised Messiah. He
healed the sick, cleansed the lepers, raised the dead, cast out demons,
walked on the water and gave a thousand other evidences that He was the
One who indeed was to come. In spite of all this, they would not believe on
Him. So, in this passage of Scripture, the theologians came asking for a sign
from heaven. Jesus refused them entirely, castigating them severely for not
being able to read the signs of the times and understand the Scriptures. They
might have known, they should have known the Scriptures well enough to
have been expecting Him at this very time. Jesus calls them hypocrites who
are able to discern the face of the sky but are ignorant of the signs of the
times.
Jesus is Coming Again
This same Jesus, who came nineteen hundred years ago, is coming back
again, for He is now in heaven and waiting to return. No one who takes his
Bible seriously can doubt the return of the Lord Jesus Christ. His Second
Coming is mentioned two hundred and forty times in the New Testament
alone, more times by far than any other doctrine in the entire Bible. There is
no more certain truth in the entire Scriptures than the personal, literal,
imminent return of the Lord Jesus Christ to this earth.
An Undated Event
The exact day of this great event, however, has not been revealed. We
know not when He will come as far as the day and the hour are concerned.
All attempts to fix dates, therefore, are absolutely un-scriptural and can only
bring reproach upon the cause of Christ. All the date-setters of the past
have proved to be false prophets. Jesus Himself said in Matthew 24:36,
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no not the angels of heaven, but
my Father only." We, therefore, reject every attempt of men to fix the date
of our Lord's return.
The Times and the Seasons
When we say that we cannot know the day or the hour, it does not mean
that we cannot know the "times and the seasons." We are told definitely that
we may know when it is near and the general time when He will come back
again. One thing we do know, we are nearer the coming of Christ today
than we have ever been before in all of history. Each day brings us one day
closer to this certain event. The Bible abounds with signs which will reveal to
the spiritual Christian the nearness of His Second Coming. To ignore these
signs is to make ourselves partakers of the sin of the hypocrites of Jesus'
day who were rebuked and castigated for not knowing the signs of His First
Coming.
Jesus Himself gave us scores of signs and indications which He said would
precede His coming again by which we might know that His coming is
imminent. Again and again, in speaking of these signs, He assures us, "When
ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors"
(Matthew 24:33).
There are, then, two dangers. First, the danger of date setting, and, second,
the opposite evil, just as serious, of ignoring the signs of the times which tell
us when Jesus is about to come again. The believer need not be ignorant
concerning the time of our Lord's return. Some time ago I heard a preacher
speaking on the Second Coming who said, "No one can know when Jesus
is coming again, for He will come as a thief in the night. The thief does not
announce his coming or give any indication of when he may be expected."
This brother then quoted 1 Thessalonians 5, verses 2 and 3:
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief
in the night.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh
upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
There he stopped. Why stop there? Why not read verse 4 of 1
Thessalonians 5 and the verses which follow as well? Jesus comes as a thief
for the unsaved, to be sure, but certainly this passage was not spoken
concerning the believer. Here is the passage which follows:
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a
thief.
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the
night, nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober (1
Thessalonians 5:4-6).
Notice carefully, the coming of the Lord will not come as a thief for the
believer at all. That applies only to the unsaved. For this reason, the true
Christian studies the signs of the times as given in the Scriptures that he may
know when Jesus' coming is near. To fail to acquaint ourselves with the
signs of His return will merit the rebuke of the Lord Jesus Himself who said,
"O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern
the signs of the times?" (Matthew 16:3)
[1]
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[1]De Haan, M. R. (1997). The signs of the times. Originally published:
Signs of the times, and other prophetic messages. Grand Rapids, Mich. :
Zondervan Pub., 1951. (11). Grand Rapids, MI: Kregel Publications.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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16 Jun 2007 03:04:06 PM |
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"Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_910@yahoo.com> wrote in news:10sju6.3ch.17.1
@news.alt.net:
The Certainty of Christ's Return
....has been debunked by the failure of prophesy. But you people are blind,
and will never see this.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Convicted by Earthquack
Plonked by Fester
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Sexual Ethics - Wasteland |
16 Jun 2007 11:11:08 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:04:06 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
"Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_910@yahoo.com> wrote in news:10sju6.3ch.17.1
@news.alt.net:
The Certainty of Christ's Return
...has been debunked by the failure of prophesy. But you people are blind,
and will never see this.
Save your breath, Vic. All he knows how to do is copy crap from web
sites and paste it here. He's one step up from a post-bot.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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16 Jun 2007 11:51:39 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> bloodied us
up with this:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:04:06 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
"Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_910@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:10sju6.3ch.17.1 @news.alt.net:
The Certainty of Christ's Return
...has been debunked by the failure of prophesy. But you people are
blind, and will never see this.
Save your breath, Vic. All he knows how to do is copy crap from web
sites and paste it here. He's one step up from a post-bot.
Down, actually.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Mike" |
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15 Jun 2007 05:59:02 PM |
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On Jun 15, 4:09 pm, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"g28401" <notrilia.repub...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1181922098.606816.306250@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 5:56 am, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Someone still hasn't gotten their rocks off :)
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it.
People reject the "good news" about Jesus Christ because it is a
pile of superstitious horseshit.
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| User: "Promises Promises" |
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| Title: Re: Sexual Ethics - Wasteland |
16 Jun 2007 01:02:40 AM |
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"Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote in message news:1181948342.918665.238770@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 15, 4:09 pm, "Promises Promises" <pxp_ry_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"g28401" <notrilia.repub...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1181922098.606816.306250@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 5:56 am, "Promises Promises" <pp_aery...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sexual Ethics - Wasteland
An Unhooked Culture
In the book Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love,
and Lose at Both by Washington Post journalist Laura Sessions Stepp,
many stories are told about young women who have plunged headlong
into the "hookup culture," only to end up bruised, broken, scared, and
isolated.
Someone still hasn't gotten their rocks off :)
Many of the people I know are always looking for some inside information.
And mostly, they want to know how to save money, how to get more money,
how to best get this task done or how to avoid that problem.
People like to be in the know. No one wants to pay more than they really
need to, and nobody wants to face a problem that can be avoided with a
little know-how. I suppose most of us are like that.
That's why I'm always surprised when folks reject the good news about
Jesus Christ without even bothering to see for themselves if there is any
truth to it.
People reject the "good news" about Jesus Christ because it is a
pile of superstitious horseshit.
Nope!
The Age of Image
Jumping Out of the Self-Referential Box
We live in an image-laden age. Logic and reason have fallen in the streets.
Ancient passions and hatreds have replaced ancient ways of knowing. The rule
of personal choice has replaced absolute truth. Social structures begin to
come apart as age-old understandings give way to new definitions of family
and social function.
All of us are waiting; some are like the little boy standing at the seashore
watching the bubbly surf wash over his feet while all the while the sand
underneath gives way. Others are waiting with our eyes on the horizon
watching for the perfect wave to bear us out to sea-on the surfboard of new
prosperity and peace. Some of us only gaze with wonder at a previously hidden
expanse of sand, ignoring the warning sign as the sea recedes ever further,
unsuspectingly taken in as a tsunami rushes back from the deepest recesses of
the sea.
The world we live in-with its self-referential technologies, video games, and
endless material benefits to the few-works against our engagement with it.
Every hour on the hour, our eyes and ears are filled with images of untold
suffering and tragedy. Yet minute by minute we are promised that we can
become more beautiful, wealthier, ever young, and, yes, more sexually
attractive.
At the same time the church stands ready as never before for cultural
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