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"Jd" |
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21 Jul 2007 09:22:16 AM |
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So says the watchman |
And the watchman told, saying, "He came even unto them, and cometh not again: and the driving is
like the driving of Jehu the son of Nimshi; for he driveth furiously." (2Kings 9:20)
And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, "Is it peace, Jehu?" And he answered, "What
peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?" (2Kings
9:22)
Elijah had foretold the event…..
"And they went to bury her: but they found no more of her than the skull, and the feet, and the
palms of her hands." (2Kings 9:35)
Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, "This is the word of the Lord, which he spake
by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of
Jezebel" (2Kings 9:36)
---Witchcraft---
Here are a few of their beliefs. (Notice the environmental connection and disdain for the male of
the species)....
"A deep reverence for the earth. For this reason, many wiccans support conservation efforts,
animal rights causes, and many are vegetarian."
"An emphasis on personal experiences. Practitioners keep a journal of these experiences in their
book of shadows."
"A form of goddess worship, with a lesser enthusiasm for her consort, a horned entity known as "the
god" the devotion to a feminine deity reflects the wiccan dissatisfaction with traditional
monotheistic religions, which they consider patriarchal and demeaning to women . Their goddess has
many names- mother earth, Gaia, Ashtarte, Isis, and Osiris, to name a few. Many wiccans are Also
feminists."
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/cultwatch/indexw.html
Now "Gaia" mentioned above was invented by a scientist at NASA's JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory)
"James Lovelock is the author of approximately 200 scientific papers,
distributed almost equally among topics in Medicine, Biology,
Instrument Science and Geophysiology. He has filed more than 50
patents, mostly for detectors for use in chemical analysis. One of
these, the electron capture detector, was important in the development
of environmental awareness."
"He is the originator of the Gaia Hypothesis (now Gaia Theory) and has
written four books on the subject: Gaia: a new look at life on Earth,
(Oxford University Press, 1979); The Ages of Gaia, (W. W. Norton,
1988); Gaia: the practical science of planetary medicine, (Gaia Books,
1991), and Homage to Gaia (2000)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_philosophy
Here's Lovelock in his own words:
"For me, the personal revelation of Gaia came quite suddenly - like a
flash of enlightenment. I was in a small room on the top floor of a
building at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. It
was the autumn of 1965 ... and I was talking with a colleague, Dian
Hitchcock, about a paper we were preparing ... It was at that moment
that I glimpsed Gaia. An awesome thought came to me. The Earth's
atmosphere was an extraordinary and unstable mixture of gases, yet I
knew that it was constant in composition over quite long periods of
time. Could it be that life on Earth not only made the atmosphere, but
also regulated it - keeping it at a constant composition, and at a
level favourable for organisms?" James Lovelock (1991)
http://www.gaianet.fsbusiness.co.uk/gaiatheory.html
And make no mistake about it, "Gaia" is meant to be a goddess i.e. "Mother Earth"...
"Gaia is Mother Earth. Gaia is immortal. She is the eternal source of
life. She is certainly the mother of us all, including Jesus" - James
Lovelock (Science and Christian Belief, Vol. 4, No. 1, p. 6)
My view is that environmentalism and evolutionary teachings form the religion scientists have been
yearning for. 3 years after Lovelock had his "personal revelation" comes this....
"A religion old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the universe
as revealed by modern science, might be able to draw forth reserves of
reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths. Sooner or
later, such a religion will emerge." —Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot (1994)
As well as the "Earth Charter":
"The Earth Charter is a declaration of international values and
principles thought to be a necessary for building a just, sustainable,
and peaceful future. The idea of a Charter originated in 1987, when
the United Nations World Commission on Environment and Development
called for a new charter regarding fundamental principles for
sustainable development. In 1992, the need for a charter was urged by
then-Secretary General Boutros Boutros-Ghali at the Rio Earth Summit.
In 1994, the Earth Charter Initiative was formed by Maurice Stong,
secretary general of the Earth Summit and chairman of the Earth
Counsel, Mikhail Gorbachev, who was then president of Green Cross
International, with support with the government of The Netherlands."
Here's Gorbachev:
"My hope is that this charter will be a kind of Ten Commandments, a
"Sermon on the Mount," that provides a guide for human behavior toward
the environment in the next century and beyond."
— Mikhail Gorbachev
Jd
"I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night:
ye that make mention of the Lord, keep not silence, and give him no rest, till he establish, and
till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth." (Isaiah 62:6-7)
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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21 Jul 2007 09:50:53 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:22:16 GMT there was an Ancient Jd
<ZionsFire@att.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
---Witchcraft---
Here are a few of their beliefs. (Notice the environmental connection and disdain for the male of
the species)....
"A deep reverence for the earth. For this reason, many wiccans support conservation efforts,
animal rights causes, and many are vegetarian."
Gee, how awful. A group that believes that taking care of the only
known planet that can support our type of life is a good thing.
"An emphasis on personal experiences. Practitioners keep a journal of these experiences in their
book of shadows."
As opposed to the Christian doctrine of being born again and personal
relationships with Jesus?
"A form of goddess worship, with a lesser enthusiasm for her consort, a horned entity known as "the
god" the devotion to a feminine deity reflects the wiccan dissatisfaction with traditional
monotheistic religions, which they consider patriarchal and demeaning to women . Their goddess has
many names- mother earth, Gaia, Ashtarte, Isis, and Osiris, to name a few. Many wiccans are Also
feminists."
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/cultwatch/indexw.html
The consort is more often known as The Horned Man.
Osiris? ROTFLMAO. Osiris is male, doofus. Consort to Isis, was
killed and dismembered. Isis was able to find all the bits but his
penis, so a replacement was fashioned. Interesting fact: Osisiris was
killed in the spring and rose from the dead three days later.
Now "Gaia" mentioned above was invented by a scientist at NASA's JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory)
"James Lovelock is the author of approximately 200 scientific papers,
distributed almost equally among topics in Medicine, Biology,
Instrument Science and Geophysiology. He has filed more than 50
patents, mostly for detectors for use in chemical analysis. One of
these, the electron capture detector, was important in the development
of environmental awareness."
"He is the originator of the Gaia Hypothesis (now Gaia Theory) and has
written four books on the subject: Gaia: a new look at life on Earth,
(Oxford University Press, 1979); The Ages of Gaia, (W. W. Norton,
1988); Gaia: the practical science of planetary medicine, (Gaia Books,
1991), and Homage to Gaia (2000)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_philosophy
Which is named after the Greek goddess Gaia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_%28mythology%29
Goddess of the Earth. And since her worship dates back to 4,000BCE,
she predates Dr. Lovelock's use of the term, agreed?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Jd" |
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| Title: Re: So says the watchman |
26 Jul 2007 07:00:39 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:22:16 GMT there was an Ancient Jd
<ZionsFire@att.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
---Witchcraft---
Here are a few of their beliefs. (Notice the environmental connection and disdain for the male of
the species)....
"A deep reverence for the earth. For this reason, many wiccans support conservation efforts,
animal rights causes, and many are vegetarian."
Gee, how awful. A group that believes that taking care of the only
known planet that can support our type of life is a good thing.
"An emphasis on personal experiences. Practitioners keep a journal of these experiences in their
book of shadows."
As opposed to the Christian doctrine of being born again and personal
relationships with Jesus?
"A form of goddess worship, with a lesser enthusiasm for her consort, a horned entity known as "the
god" the devotion to a feminine deity reflects the wiccan dissatisfaction with traditional
monotheistic religions, which they consider patriarchal and demeaning to women . Their goddess has
many names- mother earth, Gaia, Ashtarte, Isis, and Osiris, to name a few. Many wiccans are Also
feminists."
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/cultwatch/indexw.html
The consort is more often known as The Horned Man.
Osiris? ROTFLMAO. Osiris is male, doofus. Consort to Isis, was
killed and dismembered. Isis was able to find all the bits but his
penis, so a replacement was fashioned. Interesting fact: Osisiris was
killed in the spring and rose from the dead three days later.
Now "Gaia" mentioned above was invented by a scientist at NASA's JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory)
"James Lovelock is the author of approximately 200 scientific papers,
distributed almost equally among topics in Medicine, Biology,
Instrument Science and Geophysiology. He has filed more than 50
patents, mostly for detectors for use in chemical analysis. One of
these, the electron capture detector, was important in the development
of environmental awareness."
"He is the originator of the Gaia Hypothesis (now Gaia Theory) and has
written four books on the subject: Gaia: a new look at life on Earth,
(Oxford University Press, 1979); The Ages of Gaia, (W. W. Norton,
1988); Gaia: the practical science of planetary medicine, (Gaia Books,
1991), and Homage to Gaia (2000)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_philosophy
Which is named after the Greek goddess Gaia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_%28mythology%29
Goddess of the Earth. And since her worship dates back to 4,000BCE,
she predates Dr. Lovelock's use of the term, agreed?
Heck no. You missed the point I made about evolutionists belonging to the Earth Mothers religion.
Like a guy said in another thread.... (paraphrase) only PHD evolutionists are qualified to explain
evolution.
So you have faith in your PHD evolutionists (since you're no expert yourself) and are therefore in a
cult.
Jd
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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27 Jul 2007 07:21:22 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:00:39 GMT there was an Ancient Jd
<ZionsFire@att.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Goddess of the Earth. And since her worship dates back to 4,000BCE,
she predates Dr. Lovelock's use of the term, agreed?
Heck no. You missed the point I made about evolutionists belonging to the Earth Mothers religion.
Actully evolutionary biologists belong to many different religions.
Like a guy said in another thread.... (paraphrase) only PHD evolutionists are qualified to explain
evolution.
Some guy in another thread. Great citation there.
So you have faith in your PHD evolutionists (since you're no expert yourself) and are therefore in a
cult.
It's PhD. The nice thing about science is I can examine the arguments
and evidence myself. Having an expert help you is nice, but if you
have a reasonable level of intelligence, known of it is a great
mystery.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Jd" |
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04 Aug 2007 06:24:23 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:00:39 GMT there was an Ancient Jd
<ZionsFire@att.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Goddess of the Earth. And since her worship dates back to 4,000BCE,
she predates Dr. Lovelock's use of the term, agreed?
Heck no. You missed the point I made about evolutionists belonging to the Earth Mothers religion.
Actully evolutionary biologists belong to many different religions.
Good. Then they've finally answered Darwin's question.
"The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of
being a science founded on an improved theory, is it then a science or faith?" (Charles Darwin).
Of course it's faith. Your science says that 16 billion years or so ago, earth began as 2 dust
particles which clung together. You believe that (by faith) don't you?
And billions upon billions of years later, after the evolutionary dust process had formed earth then
asteroids came along and brought water to earth in the form of catastrophic collisions.... thus
filling up the oceans. And of course you believe that by faith also.
Then, in a mere 3 or 4 billion years "life" created itself from the asteroid water by randomly
grabbing carbon molecules that where laying around everywhere and forming DNA.... from which
finally, the first amoeba arose from the slime (by pure accident), according to "the faith". Right?
Jd
"I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night:
ye that make mention of the Lord, keep not silence, and give him no rest, till he establish, and
till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth." (Isaiah 62:6-7)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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21 Jul 2007 11:21:57 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:22:16 +0000, Jd wrote:
And the watchman told, saying, "He posteth off topic in alt.atheism"
Yep.
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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