"Kelly A. Siebecke" <hisown12@theriver.com> wrote in message
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Rod wrote:

I was put here to serve the Lord, not man, and not Terrell. You cannot
get a man to come to Christ by beating him down ! I told the guy the
facts, no more or less, and I have no intention of consulting YOU before
saying something.If that displeases you, cope with it.

Why ???? Because: Jesus instructed US to treat others as we would be
treated. Now, am I going to follow CHrist, or Terrell ?? I'll give you
a smal hint: IT ISN'T YOU.

If you were indeed put here "to serve the Lord" you might want to check
out Psalm 141:3 "Set a guard, O the Lord, to my mouth; keep watch at
the door of my lips."

The Lord putting a guard on our mouths is a good way to keep a foot out
of there; something you might have wanted to think about before making
your previous post to Terrell. I'm going to bet that Terrell's post
was merely an agreement with the one you originally put into this
thread. The beams and splinters comment was likely aimed at Bible
John, not you.

Don't be so quick to judge next time, okay? Rather, think first...

Thank you, and you are correct.

Terrell

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:49:31 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis"
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"Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:55:14 GMT, "Terrell D Lewis"
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"Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:54:42 -0000, "Bible John"
<johnw_94020@yahoo.comPDA> wrote:

Cult
Prayer List



Please pray for the following unbelievers below for their salvation.
If
I
have made any errors on the page below, or you are on this page by
mistake,
then please email me and send your testimony, your theology of the
trinity,
Christ, and salvation and I will remove you if it is biblical. However
if
you reply and say that you believe that Jesus was the first created
being,
Lucifer's spirit brother, deny the doctrine of the Trinity, or give me
some
other false teaching of one of the many cults you will remain on this
list.

Remember my top priority is praying for those who belong to a
Christian
Cult.

This list is meant for Christians to pray for those on this list. It
was
never
designed as a form of harassment regardless of what anyone says.

Must of missed this one in the killfilters ---- is blackmail something
you
consider "Christian?"

And btw, you have me wrong, I am not a "Liberal Christian," I am a
Mystic
Christian (can there be any other kind?) rhetorical question - of
course,
one cannot truley be a CHristian and not be a mystic. If you're going
to
attempt to blackmail me, you might as well get the facts straight.

Terrell

Terrell,

I hope BJ didn't hurt your feelings. It's obvious he like you better
than me calling you what he is. He calls me a Oneness Pentecostal.
The boy lacks a sense of justice.

However, with regard to your comment about Christians being mystic.
That can not be so if we understand "Christian" to mean disciple of
Christ. A diciple follows the teacher and the teacher's revealed
teachings not guesses about this and that. What God has revealed we
can know. What God keeps secret we can not know. That pretty much
knocks out "musterion" philosophy.

Deuteronomy 29:29 KJV
The secret [things belong] unto the LORD our God: but those [things
which are] revealed [belong] unto us and to our children for ever,
that [we] may do all the words of this law.

2 Peter 1:3 KJV
According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that
[pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that
hath called us to glory and virtue:

That which can be known by knowledge can be known; but the secret
things that have not been made known can not be known. After all,
anything made known in the senses world can be known by the god of
this world who it appears God likes to keep guessing.

Actually no, BJ doesn't hurt my feelings - I just like to point how what a
hypocrite his from time to time.

As to the rest, a "mystic" is one who believes that one can communicate
with
"the Divine" or "God" directly. By definition a Christian should be a
mystic.

Via the manifestations of the spirit. By definition a Christian
according to the Bible (Acts 11:26) should be a disciple of the Lord
Jesus Christ because Christians is the label assigned to disciples by
unbelievers. In use, however, Christian can mean just about anything
depending on who is using it and the context in which it is used.

As to "hidden," you are probably thinkling of the word "occult" which
means
"hidden," and here too, since Paul told us that certain knowledge is
"hidden," Christianity, too is an "occult" religion.

As to "hidden" I was thinking of "musterion" (mystery) used in the NT
and "sathar" (secret) used in the OT. A mystery or secret revealed is
no longer a secret or a mystery and is therefore not hidden. "Occult"
is a word derived from Latin and is not a word found in Scripture.
"Occult" like "Christian" is of pagan origin. So I can not apply
non-Scriptural definitions to Scriptural things. I think you are
referring to what God said through Paul in -

1 Corinthians 2:7 KJV
But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery [Gr. musterion], [even]
the hidden [Gr. apokrupto] [wisdom], which God ordained before the
world [Gr. aion = age] unto our glory:

And in the context how did he "speak" it? There are only a few ways
to "speak" via the power of God.

Paul did not say certain knowledge was hidden. He was speaking about
wisdom which is knowledge applied correctly and therefore that which
has been revealed. One can not know what is not available to know and
one can not apply knowledge that has not been made known. We have, by
his divine inherent power, been given all things that pertain to life
and godlines through the knowledge of him that called us to glory and
virtue. We have the knowledge, so it is not a mystery and it is not
hidden