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Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"David W. Barnes" |
| Date: |
10 Dec 2004 08:39:21 PM |
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Sound Familiar? |
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders
of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple
matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the
country to greater danger."
No - it isn't the Republicans, or the White House. It was Herman
Goering at the Nuremberg trials.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
15 Dec 2004 07:31:10 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
The woman made the decision when she opened her legs
and knew that she could get pregnant.
Which is why she was using contraceptive measures.
Guess what? It didn't work. And she it might not
before she spread her legs.
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Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
15 Dec 2004 07:46:17 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave. She chose to continue her pregnancy of her
own free will. Therefore, she was not force to continue her pregnancy,
and thus was not enslaved by the like of you. An embryo/fetus cannot
be the master and enslave the woman, because it cannot demand the
woman's servitude. However, the state and dictatorial and unloving
people like you can by making abortion illegal and/or unavailable. You
FORCE the woman to continue an unwanted pregnancy, and thus you are
responsible for all the harm she takes from the pregnancy and to her
life afterwards because you prevent her from getting the abortion that
she preferred to get to end that pregnancy. Since you demand the
control of her body and demand that she continue her pregnancy against
her will, you are responsible for all the consequences.
The woman made the decision when she opened her legs
and knew that she could get pregnant.
Which is why she was using contraceptive measures.
Guess what? It didn't work. And she it might not
before she spread her legs.
Sorry, but she does have to do what you say. She is free to get an
abortion if she so desires. It is not your choice to make, unless you
are willing to pay for all the medical, living, and educational
expenses for all the women that you enslave and all the children that
you force them to have. As well as all the time for their enslavement
and physical and emotional assaults and torture that the unwanted
pregnancies cause these women.
The price is to high for my conscience. Apparently you care so little
for the women that it is not too high for yours.
Her life, her body, her choice. And unless you are willing to take on
innumerable pregnancies yourself, it is not your choice to make.
Therefore, get out of the bedroom window and live your own life. She
is not bound by your hatred and disrespect of her life and her rights
and her opinion. She is not your slave, no matter how much you want
her to be.
Mark Sebree
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Pastor Dave Raymond
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
15 Dec 2004 08:30:52 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why? If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you? Maybe because she considered
you her baby? Why don't you ask her.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
15 Dec 2004 11:01:15 PM |
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Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
You're a liar.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why?
Presumably because she wanted to have children.
If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Do you think you're impressing anybody by acting like a stupid *****?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 10:48:33 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:01:15 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, (Ray Fischer)
pontificated:
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
You're a liar.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why?
Presumably because she wanted to have children.
If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Do you think you're impressing anybody by acting like a stupid *****?
Why not show her this post? Show her your words and
see what she thinks.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 11:26:40 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:01:15 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, (Ray Fischer)
pontificated:
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
You're a liar.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why?
Presumably because she wanted to have children.
If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Do you think you're impressing anybody by acting like a stupid *****?
Why not show her this post? Show her your words and
see what she thinks.
I'm a mother twice over, and I think you're a moron. And he's still right.
--
--sexkitten--CONGRESS.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/n)?
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 02:19:06 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:26:40 -0700, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:01:15 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, (Ray Fischer)
pontificated:
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
You're a liar.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why?
Presumably because she wanted to have children.
If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Do you think you're impressing anybody by acting like a stupid
*****?
Why not show her this post? Show her your words and
see what she thinks.
I'm a mother twice over, and I think you're a moron. And he's still
right.
Of course you think that and in your mind and the mind of almost everyone
reading this you are correct.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 02:28:29 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:26:40 -0700, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:01:15 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, (Ray Fischer)
pontificated:
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
You're a liar.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why?
Presumably because she wanted to have children.
If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Do you think you're impressing anybody by acting like a stupid
*****?
Why not show her this post? Show her your words and
see what she thinks.
I'm a mother twice over, and I think you're a moron. And he's still
right.
Of course you think that and in your mind and the mind of almost everyone
reading this you are correct.
In reality I am also correct. It's just that the rest of us are a lot
more connected to it than you.
How many more times would you like to respond to that post?
--
--sexkitten--Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 02:12:43 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:26:40 -0700, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:01:15 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, (Ray Fischer)
pontificated:
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
You're a liar.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why?
Presumably because she wanted to have children.
If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Do you think you're impressing anybody by acting like a stupid *****?
Why not show her this post? Show her your words and
see what she thinks.
I'm a mother twice over, and I think you're a moron. And he's still right.
Of course you think that. You are pro-abortion and
support murdering innocent babies.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 10:26:12 PM |
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Dave
I'm a mother twice over, and I think you're a moron. And he's still right.
Of course you think that. You are pro-abortion and
support murdering innocent babies.
And there is the "morality" of the pro-lie fanatic: They spit on
their Bible in a disgusting attempt to make women suffer.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 02:27:10 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:26:40 -0700, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:01:15 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, (Ray Fischer)
pontificated:
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
You're a liar.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why?
Presumably because she wanted to have children.
If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Do you think you're impressing anybody by acting like a stupid *****?
Why not show her this post? Show her your words and
see what she thinks.
I'm a mother twice over, and I think you're a moron. And he's still right.
Of course you think that.
....because I'm a mother.
You are pro-abortion and
support murdering innocent babies.
So how do you figure that, since both my babies are alive?
--
--sexkitten--In war, truth is the first casualty.
-Aeschylus
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 02:29:54 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:27:10 -0700, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:26:40 -0700, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:01:15 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, (Ray Fischer)
pontificated:
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
You're a liar.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why?
Presumably because she wanted to have children.
If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Do you think you're impressing anybody by acting like a stupid *****?
Why not show her this post? Show her your words and
see what she thinks.
I'm a mother twice over, and I think you're a moron. And he's still right.
Of course you think that.
...because I'm a mother.
You are pro-abortion and
support murdering innocent babies.
So how do you figure that, since both my babies are alive?
By your words.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 02:53:11 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:27:10 -0700, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:26:40 -0700, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:01:15 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, (Ray Fischer)
pontificated:
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
You're a liar.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why?
Presumably because she wanted to have children.
If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Do you think you're impressing anybody by acting like a stupid *****?
Why not show her this post? Show her your words and
see what she thinks.
I'm a mother twice over, and I think you're a moron. And he's still right.
Of course you think that.
...because I'm a mother.
You are pro-abortion and
support murdering innocent babies.
So how do you figure that, since both my babies are alive?
By your words.
Which? "Mother"? "Moron"? "Right"?
--
--sexkitten--"I smell blood and an era of prominent madmen."
-W.H. Auden
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 09:47:25 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from taking any
actiions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing with an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
She chose to continue her pregnancy of her own free will.
Why? If you weren't a human life before birth, why did
she choose to have you?
Because she wanted to have children.
Maybe because she considered
you her baby?
An anticipatory label that would not be in effect until my birth. Just
as a person may label something that they want and working toward
getting "my <object>", it does not make that object actually yours
until it comes into existance or your possession.
Therefore, I and every other person was not a baby or person prior to
his or her birth.
Why don't you ask her.
Because I do not need to. I have known this for many years.
Apparently, you cannot face the truth and the facts, given that you
have completely ignored and snipped the majority of my post. You
cannot answer the questions asked of you, and you cannot face the facts
when they are presented to you. So you cannot face the dillema and
intolerance of your position.
Mark Sebree
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
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16 Dec 2004 10:49:07 AM |
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On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from taking any
actiions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing with an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 12:52:06 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their
pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from taking
any
actions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing with
an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by
your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
Good thing that abortion is not murder then. It never has been, and it
never will be.
And you are certainly not compassionate, since you want to enslave
women and force them to endure unwanted pregnancies against their
wills, as well the physical, emotional, and financial hardships they
bring.
Mark Sebree
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 07:30:34 PM |
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On 16 Dec 2004 10:52:06 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their
pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from taking
any
actions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing with
an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by
your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
Good thing that abortion is not murder then. It never has been, and it
never will be.
And you are certainly not compassionate, since you want to enslave
women and force them to endure unwanted pregnancies against their
wills, as well the physical, emotional, and financial hardships they
bring.
2 Samuel, Chapter 3 SAB
3:1
Now there was long war between the house of Saul and the house of David:
but David waxed stronger and stronger, and the house of Saul waxed weaker
and weaker.
3:2
And unto David were sons born in Hebron: and his firstborn was Amnon, of
Ahinoam the Jezreelitess;
3:3
And his second, Chileab, of Abigail the wife of Nabal the Carmelite; and
the third, Absalom the son of Maacah the daughter of Talmai king of
Geshur;
3:4
And the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith; and the fifth, Shephatiah
the son of Abital;
3:5
And the sixth, Ithream, by Eglah David's wife. These were born to David
in Hebron
See David has 7 wifes but women should stop being whores. Wait until
marriage for sex. Open your legs and be a ***** and you
must deal with the consequences. If you don't want to
be pregnant, don't be a *****.
Gen.19:32-36 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie
with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their
father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her
father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this
night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed
of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and
the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay
down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child
by their father.
Gen.38:8-9 "And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and
marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed
should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his
brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground."
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 11:04:45 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 10:52:06 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women
continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their
pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from
taking
any
actions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do
so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing
with
an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by
your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
Good thing that abortion is not murder then. It never has been, and
it
never will be.
And you are certainly not compassionate, since you want to enslave
women and force them to endure unwanted pregnancies against their
wills, as well the physical, emotional, and financial hardships they
bring.
2 Samuel, Chapter 3 SAB
3:1
Now there was long war between the house of Saul and the house of
David:
but David waxed stronger and stronger, and the house of Saul waxed
weaker
and weaker.
3:2
And unto David were sons born in Hebron: and his firstborn was Amnon,
of
Ahinoam the Jezreelitess;
3:3
And his second, Chileab, of Abigail the wife of Nabal the Carmelite;
and
the third, Absalom the son of Maacah the daughter of Talmai king of
Geshur;
3:4
And the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith; and the fifth,
Shephatiah
the son of Abital;
3:5
And the sixth, Ithream, by Eglah David's wife. These were born to
David
in Hebron
See David has 7 wifes but women should stop being whores.
No problem there. They are not whores. They are not taking money for
sex as you are accusing them of.
Wait until
marriage for sex.
Or not. There is no reason to wait for marriage if they don't want to.
You have no right to tell them how to live their own lives.
Open your legs and be a *****
Wrong. Your opinion is not the truth. Having sex does not make them a
*****.
and you
must deal with the consequences.
And one of the valid ways to deal with it is to get an abortion, if she
does not want to continue the pregnancy.
If you don't want to
be pregnant, don't be a *****.
Why do you think that women are taking money for sex? There are not
that many prostitutes anywhere in the USA. (except maybe Nevada, where
is it legal)
Sex does not make a woman a "*****", sex for money does. And your
labels are meaningless because of the disrespect and hatefulness that
is inherent in them.
Gen.19:32-36 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie
with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made
their
father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with
her
father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine
this
night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve
seed
of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also:
and
the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she
lay
down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with
child
by their father.
Gen.38:8-9 "And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife,
and
marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the
seed
should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his
brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground."
And what is your meaningless mythology supposed to mean? Is that your
reason for your disrespect of women and your desire to punish them and
force them to suffer? All you are showing is that you have no respect
for women, that you do not respect their intelligence, their opinions,
or their beliefs. You think you have the right to force your beliefs
down other people's throats until they gag on the hatred inherent in
your position. You are using your beliefs as an excuse to command and
demand their servitude and slavery.
Let us know what you grow up and become a man, because right now you
are acting like a little boy.
Mark Sebree
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
17 Dec 2004 09:12:41 AM |
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On 16 Dec 2004 21:04:45 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 10:52:06 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women
continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their
pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from
taking
any
actions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do
so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing
with
an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by
your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
Good thing that abortion is not murder then. It never has been, and
it
never will be.
And you are certainly not compassionate, since you want to enslave
women and force them to endure unwanted pregnancies against their
wills, as well the physical, emotional, and financial hardships they
bring.
2 Samuel, Chapter 3 SAB
3:1
Now there was long war between the house of Saul and the house of
David:
but David waxed stronger and stronger, and the house of Saul waxed
weaker
and weaker.
3:2
And unto David were sons born in Hebron: and his firstborn was Amnon,
of
Ahinoam the Jezreelitess;
3:3
And his second, Chileab, of Abigail the wife of Nabal the Carmelite;
and
the third, Absalom the son of Maacah the daughter of Talmai king of
Geshur;
3:4
And the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith; and the fifth,
Shephatiah
the son of Abital;
3:5
And the sixth, Ithream, by Eglah David's wife. These were born to
David
in Hebron
See David has 7 wifes but women should stop being whores.
No problem there. They are not whores. They are not taking money for
sex as you are accusing them of.
Davey was pretty fecund; seven wifes!
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 11:10:23 PM |
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On 16 Dec 2004 21:04:45 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 10:52:06 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women
continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their
pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from
taking
any
actions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do
so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing
with
an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by
your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
Good thing that abortion is not murder then. It never has been, and
it
never will be.
And you are certainly not compassionate, since you want to enslave
women and force them to endure unwanted pregnancies against their
wills, as well the physical, emotional, and financial hardships they
bring.
2 Samuel, Chapter 3 SAB
3:1
Now there was long war between the house of Saul and the house of
David:
but David waxed stronger and stronger, and the house of Saul waxed
weaker
and weaker.
3:2
And unto David were sons born in Hebron: and his firstborn was Amnon,
of
Ahinoam the Jezreelitess;
3:3
And his second, Chileab, of Abigail the wife of Nabal the Carmelite;
and
the third, Absalom the son of Maacah the daughter of Talmai king of
Geshur;
3:4
And the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith; and the fifth,
Shephatiah
the son of Abital;
3:5
And the sixth, Ithream, by Eglah David's wife. These were born to
David
in Hebron
See David has 7 wifes but women should stop being whores.
No problem there. They are not whores. They are not taking money for
sex as you are accusing them of.
That was an imposter that posted that. I would think
you would know better than to fall for a scam like
that. That's a compliment. Really.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
20 Dec 2004 09:44:30 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 21:04:45 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 10:52:06 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women
continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their
pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still
be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from
taking
any
actions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do
so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are
dealing
with
an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound
by
your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
Good thing that abortion is not murder then. It never has been,
and
it
never will be.
And you are certainly not compassionate, since you want to
enslave
women and force them to endure unwanted pregnancies against their
wills, as well the physical, emotional, and financial hardships
they
bring.
[irrelevant mythological babble snipped]
See David has 7 wifes but women should stop being whores.
No problem there. They are not whores. They are not taking money
for
sex as you are accusing them of.
That was an imposter that posted that. I would think
you would know better than to fall for a scam like
that. That's a compliment. Really.
It was the same email as you use, at least as it appears on Google,
after they shorten it. Originating from "tampabay.rr.com". Same sig
as well. (not that that is hard to forge. Just cut & paste.) Besides,
I don't read what you write that often, so I am not that familiar with
your style as such dicussions progress.
MArk Sebree
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
20 Dec 2004 01:31:15 PM |
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On 20 Dec 2004 07:44:30 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
See David has 7 wifes but women should stop being whores.
No problem there. They are not whores. They are not taking money
for sex as you are accusing them of.
That was an imposter that posted that. I would think
you would know better than to fall for a scam like
that. That's a compliment. Really.
It was the same email as you use, at least as it appears on Google,
after they shorten it. Originating from "tampabay.rr.com". Same sig
as well. (not that that is hard to forge. Just cut & paste.) Besides,
I don't read what you write that often, so I am not that familiar with
your style as such dicussions progress.
MArk Sebree
Do you really think I don't know what I wrote? The
fact of an imposter impersonating me is well known and
even many atheists will attest to it. These things are
not hard to forge. Even the IP address can be forged.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 10:52:54 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 10:52:06 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women
continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their
pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from
taking
any
actions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do
so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing
with
an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by
your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
Good thing that abortion is not murder then. It never has been, and
it
never will be.
And you are certainly not compassionate, since you want to enslave
women and force them to endure unwanted pregnancies against their
wills, as well the physical, emotional, and financial hardships they
bring.
2 Samuel, Chapter 3 SAB
3:1
Now there was long war between the house of Saul and the house of
David:
but David waxed stronger and stronger, and the house of Saul waxed
weaker
and weaker.
3:2
And unto David were sons born in Hebron: and his firstborn was Amnon,
of
Ahinoam the Jezreelitess;
3:3
And his second, Chileab, of Abigail the wife of Nabal the Carmelite;
and
the third, Absalom the son of Maacah the daughter of Talmai king of
Geshur;
3:4
And the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith; and the fifth,
Shephatiah
the son of Abital;
3:5
And the sixth, Ithream, by Eglah David's wife. These were born to
David
in Hebron
See David has 7 wifes but women should stop being whores. Wait until
marriage for sex. Open your legs and be a ***** and you
must deal with the consequences. If you don't want to
be pregnant, don't be a *****.
Gen.19:32-36 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie
with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made
their
father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with
her
father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine
this
night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve
seed
of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also:
and
the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she
lay
down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with
child
by their father.
Gen.38:8-9 "And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife,
and
marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the
seed
should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his
brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground."
So, all you have to support your position is meaningless drivel and a
hateful mythology. I thought as much.
Why should I care what your insignificant mythology states? You have
no right to force anyone to submit to your beliefs. Therefore, you
have no right to force women to submit to an mythology that they do not
believe in. You are using your hateful mythology as an excuse to
enslave women and force them to suffer for no reason. What a small
minded and small hearted person you are.
You have made yourself plain. You have no good reason to force women
to continue an unwanted pregnancy, and you do not respect women at all.
You see them as objects, breeders, and slaves, not people. Your
choice of passages from your mythology makes that plain.
Let us know when you finally grow up, and become a man, instead of the
hateful little boy you are now.
Mark Sebree
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 02:14:00 PM |
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On 16 Dec 2004 10:52:06 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their
pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from taking
any
actions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing with
an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by
your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
Good thing that abortion is not murder then. It never has been, and it
never will be.
And you are certainly not compassionate, since you want to enslave
women and force them to endure unwanted pregnancies against their
wills, as well the physical, emotional, and financial hardships they
bring.
Solution: Women should stop being whores. Wait until
marriage for sex. Open your legs and be a ***** and you
must deal with the consequences. If you don't want to
be pregnant, don't be a *****.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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| Title: Re: Sound Familiar? |
16 Dec 2004 02:38:39 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 10:52:06 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 16 Dec 2004 07:47:25 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 17:46:17 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Dec 2004 08:10:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 14 Dec 2004 16:43:02 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
pontificated:
You don't have that right.
And you do not have the right to demand that women
continue
unwanted
pregnancies to completion against their wills.
Sure do, if it is illegal to have an abortion.
Then you are not demanding that women continue their
pregnancies
against their wills, the state is. And women will still be
slaves.
Have you apologized to your mother for making her a
slave?
I did not make her a slave.
Sure you did.
No, I did not. I did not force her to take or refrain from
taking
any
actions that she wanted to take. It was not in my power to do
so,
since at the time I was an embryo/fetus.
Your accusation falls flat on its face, because you are dealing
with
an
intelligent, educated, and compassionate foe that is not bound by
your
oppressive "morals" and agenda.
Murder does not equal compassion.
Good thing that abortion is not murder then. It never has been, and
it
never will be.
And you are certainly not compassionate, since you want to enslave
women and force them to endure unwanted pregnancies against their
wills, as well the physical, emotional, and financial hardships they
bring.
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