Religions > Bible > Stephen M. Adams confirms his core polytheism again
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"Pastor Steve Winter" |
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13 May 2005 11:38:34 PM |
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Stephen M. Adams confirms his core polytheism again |
Stephen M. Adams <adamst@no.spam> spake thusly and wrote:
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will
keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come
unto him, and make our abode with him.
John 14:23 [KJV]
There's that pesky 'we' and 'our' - Jesus refers to the Father and himself.
as "we" not "me". And says "our" abode not "my" abode.
There is no escaping this point: Jesus is NOT the Father.
It is good when filthy false-christian scum like Stephen Adams so
blatantly admit their polytheism as they try to defend it with
their carnal misunderstanding of scripture.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the
Father?
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Before Abraham was, I am.
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you.
Matthew 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they
seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they
understand.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "Stephen M. Adams" |
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| Title: Re: Stephen M. Adams confirms his core polytheism again |
17 May 2005 10:32:05 AM |
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Pastor Steve Winter <steve.NO--SPAM@prime.org> writes:
Stephen M. Adams <adamst@no.spam> spake thusly and wrote:
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will
keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come
unto him, and make our abode with him.
John 14:23 [KJV]
There's that pesky 'we' and 'our' - Jesus refers to the Father and himself.
as "we" not "me". And says "our" abode not "my" abode.
There is no escaping this point: Jesus is NOT the Father.
It is good when filthy false-christian scum like Stephen Adams so
blatantly admit their polytheism as they try to defend it with
their carnal misunderstanding of scripture.
Notice that Winter refuses to actually address the verse above. It
says *we* and *our* when referring to God the Father and to Jesus.
But no surprise, it's the same evasion that Winter uses when he is
confronted with Stepehn's statement in Acts about seeing Jesus standing
at the right hand of the Father. And numerous other verses which make
it quite clear that God is Triune in nature.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the
Father?
Since the Son is 'homoousios' (of one being) with the Father, and the
Son is fully God, then Jesus' words are fully compatibile with the
Triune nature of God.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Before Abraham was, I am.
Duh. The son is eternal. But not accoring to Winter! According
to Winter's false theology, the Son could NOT have existed prior
to the birth of Jesus! This verse shows Winter to be deadly wrong.
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you.
If we were denying that Jesus is fully God, then this verse would be
a problem. But we beleive that Jesus is fully God and fully man.
The Son is "God from God, Light from Light, Very God of Very God."
Matthew 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they
seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they
understand.
This accurately describes you and your heresy.
XXXXXX Winter
If you claim the title, you should have no trouble telling us where and
by whom you were ordained. Failure to answer this simple question should
demonstrate for any and all who are reading this thread that you have no
intent of being honest about ANYTHING.
It's really too bad that your attorney didn't actually do what the Court
asked him to do in his formal brief, and that you're going to lose. It
would be so much fun to ask you, under oath, to answer all the questions
you have refused to answer here. But, it'll never happen, since your
case is over once the appeals court rules.
-Stephen
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Space Age Cybernomad Stephen Adams
(remove SPAM to reply)
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| User: "Rob" |
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| Title: Re: Stephen M. Adams confirms his core polytheism again |
17 May 2005 12:12:05 PM |
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On 17 May 2005 15:32:05 GMT, Stephen M. Adams <adamst@no.spam> wrote:
Pastor Steve Winter <steve.NO--SPAM@prime.org> writes:
Stephen M. Adams <adamst@no.spam> spake thusly and wrote:
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will
keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come
unto him, and make our abode with him.
John 14:23 [KJV]
There's that pesky 'we' and 'our' - Jesus refers to the Father and himself.
as "we" not "me". And says "our" abode not "my" abode.
There is no escaping this point: Jesus is NOT the Father.
It is good when filthy false-christian scum like Stephen Adams so
blatantly admit their polytheism as they try to defend it with
their carnal misunderstanding of scripture.
Notice that Winter refuses to actually address the verse above. It
says *we* and *our* when referring to God the Father and to Jesus.
John 14:23 is not proof God exists in 3 persons. It is only proof Christ is one
with the Father the same way any child of God is one with the Father.
John 17:21-22 My prayer for all of them is that they will be one, just as you
and I are one, Father--that just as you are in me and I am in you, so they will
be in us, and the world will believe you sent me. {22} "I have given them the
glory you gave me, so that they may be one, as we are-- (NLT)
Rob
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| User: "Pastor Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: Stephen M. Adams confirms his core polytheism again |
17 May 2005 11:44:32 PM |
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Stephen M. Adams <adamst@no.spam> spake thusly and wrote:
It is good when filthy false-christian scum like Stephen Adams so
blatantly admit their polytheism as they try to defend it with
their carnal misunderstanding of scripture.
Notice that Winter refuses to actually address the verse above. It
says *we* and *our* when referring to God the Father and to Jesus.
Like I said before, it is good when these false-christian filth
like Stephen Adams so blatantly confirm their core polytheism.
"Like peas in a pod are the gods in their squad."<tm>
One of the reasons that the filthy and malicious false-christian
scum Stephen Adams has engaged in his malicious campaigns of
libel and other similar activities to try to silence me is that
I so easily show him for the lying false-christian filth he
really is by using his own words. That bothers Mr. Adams
greatly.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "Stephen M. Adams" |
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| Title: Re: Stephen M. Adams confirms his core polytheism again |
18 May 2005 10:09:03 AM |
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Pastor Steve Winter <steve.NO--SPAM@prime.org> writes:
Stephen M. Adams <adamst@no.spam> spake thusly and wrote:
It is good when filthy false-christian scum like Stephen Adams so
blatantly admit their polytheism as they try to defend it with
their carnal misunderstanding of scripture.
Notice that Winter refuses to actually address the verse above. It
says *we* and *our* when referring to God the Father and to Jesus.
Like I said before, it is good when these false-christian filth
like Stephen Adams so blatantly confirm their core polytheism.
"Like peas in a pod are the gods in their squad."<tm>
Notice once again that Winter *REFUSES* to address the Scriptures. He's
so quick to post his proof texts and curse others, but when confronted
with the actual teaching of the Bible, he reverts to his cursing and
name calling. That is because his theology cannot be defended.
One of the reasons that the filthy and malicious false-christian
scum Stephen Adams has engaged in his malicious campaigns of
libel and other similar activities to try to silence me is that
I so easily show him for the lying false-christian filth he
really is by using his own words. That bothers Mr. Adams
greatly.
Mr. Winter's claims are false. And he knows it. His lawsuit will
be formally dismissed shortly.
See: http://adamsemail.net/winter/winfaq.html
for details. Mr. Winter could have ended all of this long ago, and
still could. It's up to him.
-Stephen
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Space Age Cybernomad Stephen Adams
(remove SPAM to reply)
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| User: "Pastor Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: Stephen M. Adams confirms his core polytheism again |
18 May 2005 12:26:51 PM |
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Stephen M. Adams <adamst@no.spam> spake thusly and wrote:
One of the reasons that the filthy and malicious false-christian
scum Stephen Adams has engaged in his malicious campaigns of
libel and other similar activities to try to silence me is that
I so easily show him for the lying false-christian filth he
really is by using his own words. That bothers Mr. Adams
greatly.
Mr. Winter's claims are false. And he knows it. His lawsuit will
be formally dismissed shortly.
See my other post:
"Stephen Adams disproves his own garbage beliefs"
All Adams can do is engage in malicious libel and other malicious
activity because he cannot even begin to defend the stupid
garbage he believes in an open forum.
Let us not forget that Stephen Adams was even willing to try to
help child porn publishers avoid criminal investigation because
they had cooperated with him against me.
There is no depth too low for false-christian scum like Stephen
Adams when they and their garbage beliefs are soundly defeated in
an open forum.
See my other post:
"Stephen Adams disproves his own garbage beliefs"
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Stephen M. Adams confirms his core polytheism again |
21 May 2005 05:51:10 AM |
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Stephen M. Adams wrote:
Pastor Steve Winter <steve.NO--SPAM@prime.org> writes:
Stephen M. Adams <adamst@no.spam> spake thusly and wrote:
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will
keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come
unto him, and make our abode with him.
John 14:23 [KJV]
There's that pesky 'we' and 'our' - Jesus refers to the Father and
himself.
as "we" not "me". And says "our" abode not "my" abode.
There is no escaping this point: Jesus is NOT the Father.
It is good when filthy false-christian scum like Stephen Adams so
blatantly admit their polytheism as they try to defend it with
their carnal misunderstanding of scripture.
Notice that Winter refuses to actually address the verse above. It
says *we* and *our* when referring to God the Father and to Jesus.
But no surprise, it's the same evasion that Winter uses when he is
confronted with Stepehn's statement in Acts about seeing Jesus standing
at the right hand of the Father. And numerous other verses which make
it quite clear that God is Triune in nature.
So Jesus is god?
Hmmmm. So Jesus and his apostles are going to Jerusalem,
and he spots a fig tree. Since it is not yet fig season, there
are no figs so he curses the tree and it withers.
So, I am under the impression god is supposedly
the smartest being imaginable, so intelligent we can but
say that, we can never hope to appreciate how vastly
intelligent he really is, its beyond our meager imaginations.
So why did not god/Jesus command the tree to miraculously bring
forth figs rather than wither.
Thsi paints god as god/Jesus as stupid, peevish, and
bad tempered.
Excuse me while I laugh.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the
Father?
Since the Son is 'homoousios' (of one being) with the Father, and the
Son is fully God, then Jesus' words are fully compatibile with the
Triune nature of God.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Before Abraham was, I am.
Duh. The son is eternal. But not accoring to Winter! According
to Winter's false theology, the Son could NOT have existed prior
to the birth of Jesus! This verse shows Winter to be deadly wrong.
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you.
If we were denying that Jesus is fully God, then this verse would be
a problem. But we beleive that Jesus is fully God and fully man.
The Son is "God from God, Light from Light, Very God of Very God."
Matthew 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they
seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they
understand.
This accurately describes you and your heresy.
XXXXXX Winter
If you claim the title, you should have no trouble telling us where and
by whom you were ordained. Failure to answer this simple question should
demonstrate for any and all who are reading this thread that you have no
intent of being honest about ANYTHING.
It's really too bad that your attorney didn't actually do what the Court
asked him to do in his formal brief, and that you're going to lose. It
would be so much fun to ask you, under oath, to answer all the questions
you have refused to answer here. But, it'll never happen, since your
case is over once the appeals court rules.
-Stephen
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When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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