What Steve fails to consider when he speaks about the verse in Matthew
is that Jesus was talking to oral traditionalist religious leaders
called Pharisees.

But if it will make you happy I will say it for you.
Jesus Christ is not God. Jesus Christ is not God the Creator

On Wed, 09 May 2007 09:59:26 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@cableone.net> wrote:

Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

Rod <kc0oeb@cableone.net> spake thusly and wrote:

You didn't report anything to law enforcement, you reported it
to Senator Jesse Helms office who is unable to do anything
about enforcing the pornography laws, and in doing so you
bought the publishers of the porn time to destroy the evidence
and escape the wrath of law enforcement !

What an ignorant, lying scum this sick pathetic excuse for a man
Rod Eastman is! Getting instructions from a US Senator is just
about the fastest way to get the DOJ to do anything.

Thats a load of crap Steve ! Your personal doubts about the DOJ's
dedication to it's work is not an excuse for allowing porn mongers
to escape justice.



You filthy

dirt will lie and say anything!

You accuse us of the very thing you put into practice daily !


Senator Helms, also, was not the

only one I reported the scum to.

Now your story changes AGAIN ! I'm going to keep this post for future
reference.

Of course the filthy dirt Rod Eastman doesn't say a word against
the filthy devil Stephen Adams who actually tried to help the
child porn publishers.

Wow ! The same old tired lie......

I even have a letter from Senator Helms regarding the matter that
I have put on the website http://www.jnahc.com/legal

All of this because the filthy trash Rod Eastman didn't have the
guts to walk as a Christian! The sick obsessed trash Rod Eastman
has even shown himself willing to commit criminal acts. (Durham
police IR reports 07-004454 and 07-072048)

Rod Eastman has a long history of harassment and stalking and
published threats. Rod Eastman is sick and obsessed and twisted.

Another tired old lie. The truth is that Steve Winter considers
anyone that replies to him and opposes his point of view as
harassing him. After that, should you reply to him further
he considers it as stalking him. I do oppose Steve's point of view
where scripture is concerned, and I will continue to reply to
him when he does or says something that I am in opposition to.

For example, I don't believe in calling people false christians,
scum, dirt, filthy, dog vomit, trash, weak minded, dimbulb, and
the list goes farther than I care to repeat for your benefit !

Steve also claims thru his words, and by his actions, that Christ
referred to everyone in this manner that wasn't a Oneness Apostolic
believer. This just isn't the truth at ALL ! The Bible explicitly
tells us that Christ referred to some publicans, Pharisees, scribes
and priests as hypocrites and described them as whited sepulchers
full of dead mens bones and all uncleaness. So Steve, in his infinite
wisdom decided that Christ wasn't describing them, but instead calling
these people filth, and dirt ! While I can agree that they certainly
sounded as if they were filthy, the facts are that Christ didn't call
them the aramaic equivalent of filth or dirt, but I'm sure He did
refer to them in the aramaic word(s) for "whited sepulchers full of
dead mens bones and all uncleaness".

What Steve fails to consider when he speaks about the verse in Matthew

is that Jesus was talking to oral traditionalist religious leaders
called Pharisees. Whether a Pharasee or a Sadducee; they would have
been "clean" in the physical sense because of their strict adherence
to the traditions. Whited sepulchres refers to the practice of
whiting sepulchres so that they could be seen so that people would not
touch them and become ceremoniously unlean. Jesus did not call anyone
false christian scum. Christians didn't exist yet and wouldn't until
after the resurrection. He didn't call anyone "scum". That came from
a man who thinks scum thoughts.

Rod Eastman is showing everyone what the devil can do to a weak,
ignorant man who is full of pride.

Steve Winter is showing the world what a liar can do to anyone
he chooses to target. Don't be afraid of this man if you encounter
him on usenet ! If he attacks you look up the Steve Winter FAQ
and find out how to deal with him, because in some cases he does
follow you across the internet, and he will even call your employer
and call you at home ! Now THAT is STALKING !

I think anyone worth convincing can see the malice and dishonesty
from both Charles "Quartus" Stanley, Robert Sowle, and Rod
Eastman. You slime are clearly grasping at straws and lying
because you have an indefensible position.

These filthy, sick, obsessed scum repeatedly publish malicious
libel about me for REPORTING CRIME to federal authorities years
ago when I was the pro se plaintiff in a federal lawsuit.

These filthy trash like Rod Eastman have no problem with Stephen
Adams for actually trying to help real child porn publishers
avoid investigation.

Steve Adams created the Steve Winter FAQ to warn unwary visitors to
usenet about Steve Winter and his harassment and extortion tactics,
and ever since this information got out Steve Adams has been a target
of libel, defamation and harassment by "Pastor" Winter, also known
in some exclusive circles as the "Pastor from Hell" !

The filthy scum Rod Eastman actually boasted of abusing his
little sister.

Steve also has a bad trait of stretching the truth. I had a one
of a kind fight with my sister and hit her on the mouth ONCE
a long time ago. I won't tell anyone the circumstances as that
would violate a promise to my sister and make me guilty of
another wrong aside from punching here. However, when Steve
get a hold of info on something you've done wrong, he will do
his best to make it appear WORSE than it was. In my case he has
tried to make me appear as an habitual abuser which I am not.

The main thing is, once the truth is out into the daylight
"Pastor Winter" no longer has anything he can hold over your
head.

Will a real preacher do the things that Steve has done ? No. Not
on your life !

These false-christian scum have no problem being filthy
hypocrites and liars because they can't defend the stupid garbage
they believe against a real preacher.

We believe the scriptures as they are. Pastor Winter believes his
interpretation of the scriptures as he proclaims them to be. As you
will see about, Steve thinks our beliefs are stupid garbage.

So much "respect" for the Word of God from a real preacher. What
would he do to it if he actually hated it ??



Rod

Rod <kc0oeb@cableone.net> spake thusly and wrote:

What an ignorant, lying scum this sick pathetic excuse for a man
Rod Eastman is! Getting instructions from a US Senator is just
about the fastest way to get the DOJ to do anything.

Thats a load of crap Steve ! Your personal doubts about the DOJ's
dedication to it's work is not an excuse for allowing porn mongers
to escape justice.

The hypocrisy of these slime like Rod Eastman is astounding! The
scum has no problem with Stephen Adams trying to prevent an
investigation of his child porn publishing buddies.

If there was no investigation, little scum, why then was Stephen
Adams so fervently trying to protect his child porn publishing
buddies from being investigated. www.jnahc.com/legal

I reported Stephen Adams's porn publishing buddies to several law
enforcement agencies and the US District court, not just to a US
Senator.

What a sick, lying pathetic excuse for a man this Rod Eastman
is!!

I even have a letter from Senator Helms regarding the matter that
I have put on the website http://www.jnahc.com/legal

Pastor Winter

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On Wed, 09 May 2007 09:59:26 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@cableone.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

Rod <kc0oeb@cableone.net> spake thusly and wrote:

You didn't report anything to law enforcement, you reported it
to Senator Jesse Helms office who is unable to do anything
about enforcing the pornography laws, and in doing so you
bought the publishers of the porn time to destroy the evidence
and escape the wrath of law enforcement !

What an ignorant, lying scum this sick pathetic excuse for a man
Rod Eastman is! Getting instructions from a US Senator is just
about the fastest way to get the DOJ to do anything.

Thats a load of crap Steve ! Your personal doubts about the DOJ's
dedication to it's work is not an excuse for allowing porn mongers
to escape justice.

I would recommend STRONGLY, Rod, that you simply report to the FBI
and Crime Stoppers (contact John Walsh) what you know to be Steve's
"last known whereabouts". They are quite capable of "following the
fox's tracks to the hen house." so to speak.

If YOU, Rod, withhold the information YOU have, merely because YOU
"don't feel it's CURRENT", then you become complicit in a sense.

You waste a LOT of time in HERE when you could be REPORTING this
yourself, and then moving on with YOUR life!

If you're typing a post on your keyboard into this news group, then
you cannot be SIMULTANEOUSLY on the phone with the FBI!

"Think about it."

Then "Do something."

There was a notice on the bulletin board where I live awhile back. I'm
going to put one back up now that I remember it.

"If You See Something (or hear something)
Say Something "
(or do something).

Blessings!

john weatherly

You filthy

dirt will lie and say anything!

You accuse us of the very thing you put into practice daily !


Senator Helms, also, was not the

only one I reported the scum to.

Now your story changes AGAIN ! I'm going to keep this post for future
reference.

Of course the filthy dirt Rod Eastman doesn't say a word against
the filthy devil Stephen Adams who actually tried to help the
child porn publishers.

Wow ! The same old tired lie......

I even have a letter from Senator Helms regarding the matter that
I have put on the website http://www.jnahc.com/legal

All of this because the filthy trash Rod Eastman didn't have the
guts to walk as a Christian! The sick obsessed trash Rod Eastman
has even shown himself willing to commit criminal acts. (Durham
police IR reports 07-004454 and 07-072048)

Rod Eastman has a long history of harassment and stalking and
published threats. Rod Eastman is sick and obsessed and twisted.

Another tired old lie. The truth is that Steve Winter considers
anyone that replies to him and opposes his point of view as
harassing him. After that, should you reply to him further
he considers it as stalking him. I do oppose Steve's point of view
where scripture is concerned, and I will continue to reply to
him when he does or says something that I am in opposition to.

For example, I don't believe in calling people false christians,
scum, dirt, filthy, dog vomit, trash, weak minded, dimbulb, and
the list goes farther than I care to repeat for your benefit !

Steve also claims thru his words, and by his actions, that Christ
referred to everyone in this manner that wasn't a Oneness Apostolic
believer. This just isn't the truth at ALL ! The Bible explicitly
tells us that Christ referred to some publicans, Pharisees, scribes
and priests as hypocrites and described them as whited sepulchers
full of dead mens bones and all uncleaness. So Steve, in his infinite
wisdom decided that Christ wasn't describing them, but instead calling
these people filth, and dirt ! While I can agree that they certainly
sounded as if they were filthy, the facts are that Christ didn't call
them the aramaic equivalent of filth or dirt, but I'm sure He did
refer to them in the aramaic word(s) for "whited sepulchers full of
dead mens bones and all uncleaness".

Rod Eastman is showing everyone what the devil can do to a weak,
ignorant man who is full of pride.

Steve Winter is showing the world what a liar can do to anyone
he chooses to target. Don't be afraid of this man if you encounter
him on usenet ! If he attacks you look up the Steve Winter FAQ
and find out how to deal with him, because in some cases he does
follow you across the internet, and he will even call your employer
and call you at home ! Now THAT is STALKING !

I think anyone worth convincing can see the malice and dishonesty
from both Charles "Quartus" Stanley, Robert Sowle, and Rod
Eastman. You slime are clearly grasping at straws and lying
because you have an indefensible position.

These filthy, sick, obsessed scum repeatedly publish malicious
libel about me for REPORTING CRIME to federal authorities years
ago when I was the pro se plaintiff in a federal lawsuit.

These filthy trash like Rod Eastman have no problem with Stephen
Adams for actually trying to help real child porn publishers
avoid investigation.

Steve Adams created the Steve Winter FAQ to warn unwary visitors to
usenet about Steve Winter and his harassment and extortion tactics,
and ever since this information got out Steve Adams has been a target
of libel, defamation and harassment by "Pastor" Winter, also known
in some exclusive circles as the "Pastor from Hell" !

The filthy scum Rod Eastman actually boasted of abusing his
little sister.

Steve also has a bad trait of stretching the truth. I had a one
of a kind fight with my sister and hit her on the mouth ONCE
a long time ago. I won't tell anyone the circumstances as that
would violate a promise to my sister and make me guilty of
another wrong aside from punching here. However, when Steve
get a hold of info on something you've done wrong, he will do
his best to make it appear WORSE than it was. In my case he has
tried to make me appear as an habitual abuser which I am not.

The main thing is, once the truth is out into the daylight
"Pastor Winter" no longer has anything he can hold over your
head.

Will a real preacher do the things that Steve has done ? No. Not
on your life !

These false-christian scum have no problem being filthy
hypocrites and liars because they can't defend the stupid garbage
they believe against a real preacher.

We believe the scriptures as they are. Pastor Winter believes his
interpretation of the scriptures as he proclaims them to be. As you
will see about, Steve thinks our beliefs are stupid garbage.

So much "respect" for the Word of God from a real preacher. What
would he do to it if he actually hated it ??



Rod

I would recommend STRONGLY, Rod, that you simply report to the FBI
and Crime Stoppers (contact John Walsh) what you know to be Steve's
"last known whereabouts".