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"Patrick Babb" |
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20 Apr 2004 08:46:05 AM |
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Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
Hello everyone. I have what is probably a fairly common question for
you all.
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path, I've
begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm considering reading
the Bible (Old and New Testament), and have heard you shouldn't just
read it from front to back. Rather, you should start with the
synoptics (matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and would
appreciate any suggestions. Also, I do want to emphasize that I plan
to read the Old Testament as well, so any suggestions regarding that
would be helpful.
Thanks in Advance,
Patrick Babb
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
29 Apr 2004 03:17:51 PM |
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On 20 Apr 2004 06:46:05 -0700, (Patrick Babb) wrote:
Hello everyone. I have what is probably a fairly common question for
you all.
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path, I've
begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm considering reading
the Bible (Old and New Testament), and have heard you shouldn't just
read it from front to back. Rather, you should start with the
synoptics (matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and would
appreciate any suggestions. Also, I do want to emphasize that I plan
to read the Old Testament as well, so any suggestions regarding that
would be helpful.
Thanks in Advance,
Patrick Babb
Patrick,
When you sit down to your favorite meal, do you have an order you eat
it? Most usually do, such as eat the dessert last etc. Thus the best
order to read the Bible is to start from Genesis, and end at
Revelation. That way, when the NT is quoting and discussing the OT,
you will have a better understanding what they are talking about.
But, just as order is not 100% necessary when eating your meal because
all your body cares about is getting it all down, then reading all of
the Bible is the most important regardless which order you do it.
That is my two cents.
Sincerely, James
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
20 Apr 2004 10:25:23 AM |
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On 20 Apr 2004 06:46:05 -0700, (Patrick Babb)
wrote:
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path,
If there is such a thing...
I've
begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm considering reading
the Bible (Old and New Testament), and have heard you shouldn't just
read it from front to back. Rather, you should start with the
synoptics (matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
I would advise just the opposite. The Pentateuch is the foundation
atop which the rest of the Bible is built. Read it first, but not in
isolation or you won't understand it.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and would
appreciate any suggestions.
Read the KJV for its poetry, but read the NRSV for more accurate
translation.
Also, I do want to emphasize that I plan
to read the Old Testament as well, so any suggestions regarding that
would be helpful.
You might try "Asimov's Guide to The Bible"
ISBN 0-517-34582-X which is out of print but can be found in
libraries and used book stores.
Another helpful tool is the "Oxford Companion to the Bible"
And if a local library keeps back issues of magazines, look for the
Bible Review and the Biblical Archaeology Review.
## I was born agnostic and I'll diagnostic!
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
20 Apr 2004 08:08:56 PM |
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"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
news:d6fa80d30fjje05f51t484ku56pq8vkteo@4ax.com...
I would advise just the opposite. The Pentateuch is the foundation
atop which the rest of the Bible is built. Read it first, but not in
isolation or you won't understand it.
Don't listen to John Ings. Read the gospels and understand everything Christ
said until it is written on your heart and mind, and then DO it, to receive
the Holy Spirit of truth, whom then would guide you into all truths, and
then you can go and read the rest of the Bible, and will then have a better
understanding of it ALL.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
news:d6fa80d30fjje05f51t484ku56pq8vkteo@4ax.com...
On 20 Apr 2004 06:46:05 -0700, (Patrick Babb)
wrote:
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path,
If there is such a thing...
I've
begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm considering reading
the Bible (Old and New Testament), and have heard you shouldn't just
read it from front to back. Rather, you should start with the
synoptics (matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
I would advise just the opposite. The Pentateuch is the foundation
atop which the rest of the Bible is built. Read it first, but not in
isolation or you won't understand it.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and would
appreciate any suggestions.
Read the KJV for its poetry, but read the NRSV for more accurate
translation.
Also, I do want to emphasize that I plan
to read the Old Testament as well, so any suggestions regarding that
would be helpful.
You might try "Asimov's Guide to The Bible"
ISBN 0-517-34582-X which is out of print but can be found in
libraries and used book stores.
Another helpful tool is the "Oxford Companion to the Bible"
And if a local library keeps back issues of magazines, look for the
Bible Review and the Biblical Archaeology Review.
## I was born agnostic and I'll diagnostic!
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| User: "RainLover" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
21 Apr 2004 06:54:01 AM |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 01:08:56 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:
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Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
Hey Dore,
A little off topic. . .
I just have to comment... You have WAY too much stuff going on with your main web site page!! I
have a cablemodem connection and it's one of the longest loading sites I've visited! I feel sorry
for the person with a 56k modem, or LESS... in my area, the phone lines can only handle 28k speeds.
Why not consider breaking it up a lot and loosing the music?
James, Seattle
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
21 Apr 2004 05:03:36 PM |
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:33oc80dcnr0hs1fnt7bda7adrbtmm4sjh2@4ax.com...
I just have to comment... You have WAY too much stuff going on with your
main web site page!! I
have a cablemodem connection and it's one of the longest loading sites
I've visited! I feel sorry
for the person with a 56k modem, or LESS... in my area, the phone lines
can only handle 28k speeds.
Why not consider breaking it up a lot and loosing the music?
I appreciate your comments and will take them into consideration, however, I
have DSL and it loads in less than 5 seconds, no more than any other
website. But it IS worth the wait, if you have a longer loading time.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:33oc80dcnr0hs1fnt7bda7adrbtmm4sjh2@4ax.com...
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 01:08:56 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
Hey Dore,
A little off topic. . .
I just have to comment... You have WAY too much stuff going on with your
main web site page!! I
have a cablemodem connection and it's one of the longest loading sites
I've visited! I feel sorry
for the person with a 56k modem, or LESS... in my area, the phone lines
can only handle 28k speeds.
Why not consider breaking it up a lot and loosing the music?
James, Seattle
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| User: "Weatherwax" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
20 Apr 2004 05:45:58 PM |
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"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
news:d6fa80d30fjje05f51t484ku56pq8vkteo@4ax.com...
patrick_babb@yahoo.com (Patrick Babb) wrote:
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path,
If there is such a thing...
I've begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm
considering reading the Bible (Old and New Testament),
and have heard you shouldn't just read it from front to
back. Rather, you should start with the synoptics
(matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
I would advise just the opposite. The Pentateuch is the
foundation atop which the rest of the Bible is built. Read
it first, but not in isolation or you won't understand it.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and
would
appreciate any suggestions.
Read the KJV for its poetry, but read the NRSV for more
accurate translation.
How can you possibly rocommend the KJV? Some readers do believe
that the "Elizabethan" language is poetic, but that makes it more
difficult to understand. Its format of placing each verse in a
separate paragraph adds to the difficulty of comprehension and
leads to quoting verses out of context (a Christian habit.)
As for the poetry in the Bible, the KJV translators didn't even
know that it existed. Yet poetry makes up nearly one third of
the Old Testament.
I agree that the NRSV is perhaps the most accurate translation.
It is especially good in the poetic passages.
Also, I do want to emphasize that I plan to read the Old
Testament as well, so any suggestions regarding that
would be helpful.
You might try "Asimov's Guide to The Bible"
ISBN 0-517-34582-X which is out of print but can be
found in libraries and used book stores.
Another helpful tool is the "Oxford Companion to the Bible"
And if a local library keeps back issues of magazines, look
for the Bible Review and the Biblical Archaeology Review.
I recommend "The New Oxford Annotated NRSV Bible". An excellent
translation, with a scholarly commentary.
--
Wax
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
22 Apr 2004 04:44:15 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:45:58 GMT, "Weatherwax"
<weatherwax@worldnet.net> spake thusly:
"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
news:d6fa80d30fjje05f51t484ku56pq8vkteo@4ax.com...
patrick_babb@yahoo.com (Patrick Babb) wrote:
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path,
If there is such a thing...
I've begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm
considering reading the Bible (Old and New Testament),
and have heard you shouldn't just read it from front to
back. Rather, you should start with the synoptics
(matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
I would advise just the opposite. The Pentateuch is the
foundation atop which the rest of the Bible is built. Read
it first, but not in isolation or you won't understand it.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and
would
appreciate any suggestions.
Read the KJV for its poetry, but read the NRSV for more
accurate translation.
How can you possibly rocommend the KJV? Some readers do believe
that the "Elizabethan" language is poetic, but that makes it more
difficult to understand. Its format of placing each verse in a
separate paragraph adds to the difficulty of comprehension and
leads to quoting verses out of context (a Christian habit.)
The KJV is based on a different set of texts than the
NRSV.
As for the poetry in the Bible, the KJV translators didn't even
know that it existed. Yet poetry makes up nearly one third of
the Old Testament.
That is a stupid statement.
I agree that the NRSV is perhaps the most accurate translation.
It is especially good in the poetic passages.
A Greek version of Playboy is probably very accurate.
That doesn't mean it's worth reading.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"Evolution destroys utterly and finally the very reason
Jesus' earthly life was supposedly made necessary.
Destroy Adam and Eve and the original sin and in the
rubble, you will find the sorry remains of the Son of
God. If Jesus was not the Redeemer... and this is what
evolution means, then Christianity is nothing."
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
29 Apr 2004 09:33:22 PM |
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it was written.
How can you possibly rocommend the KJV? Some readers do believe
that the "Elizabethan" language is poetic, but that makes it more
difficult to understand. Its format of placing each verse in a
separate paragraph adds to the difficulty of comprehension and
leads to quoting verses out of context (a Christian habit.)
It is ONLY difficult to understand by those who do NOT have the Holy Spirit
of truth.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:33fg80pajl9r84k6n9uhdfrmqijnhevprt@4ax.com...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:45:58 GMT, "Weatherwax"
<weatherwax@worldnet.net> spake thusly:
"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
news:d6fa80d30fjje05f51t484ku56pq8vkteo@4ax.com...
patrick_babb@yahoo.com (Patrick Babb) wrote:
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path,
If there is such a thing...
I've begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm
considering reading the Bible (Old and New Testament),
and have heard you shouldn't just read it from front to
back. Rather, you should start with the synoptics
(matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
I would advise just the opposite. The Pentateuch is the
foundation atop which the rest of the Bible is built. Read
it first, but not in isolation or you won't understand it.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and
would
appreciate any suggestions.
Read the KJV for its poetry, but read the NRSV for more
accurate translation.
How can you possibly rocommend the KJV? Some readers do believe
that the "Elizabethan" language is poetic, but that makes it more
difficult to understand. Its format of placing each verse in a
separate paragraph adds to the difficulty of comprehension and
leads to quoting verses out of context (a Christian habit.)
The KJV is based on a different set of texts than the
NRSV.
As for the poetry in the Bible, the KJV translators didn't even
know that it existed. Yet poetry makes up nearly one third of
the Old Testament.
That is a stupid statement.
I agree that the NRSV is perhaps the most accurate translation.
It is especially good in the poetic passages.
A Greek version of Playboy is probably very accurate.
That doesn't mean it's worth reading.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"Evolution destroys utterly and finally the very reason
Jesus' earthly life was supposedly made necessary.
Destroy Adam and Eve and the original sin and in the
rubble, you will find the sorry remains of the Son of
God. If Jesus was not the Redeemer... and this is what
evolution means, then Christianity is nothing."
- Richard Bozarth, Atheist
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| User: "Louis Davidson" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
21 Apr 2004 12:23:40 AM |
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Well by now I assume that you are more confused than before you asked for
advice.
Read it your way.
What matters most is to understanding the Bible.
Matthew verse 18: will guide you, your Spirit will lead you.
Enjoy. It is a pleasant journey,
Louis.
"Patrick Babb" <patrick_babb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:29dbd66f.0404200546.506aef53@posting.google.com...
Hello everyone. I have what is probably a fairly common question for
you all.
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path, I've
begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm considering reading
the Bible (Old and New Testament), and have heard you shouldn't just
read it from front to back. Rather, you should start with the
synoptics (matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and would
appreciate any suggestions. Also, I do want to emphasize that I plan
to read the Old Testament as well, so any suggestions regarding that
would be helpful.
Thanks in Advance,
Patrick Babb
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| User: "Louis Davidson" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
21 Apr 2004 12:53:59 AM |
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Oops What matters most is understanding the Bible.
"Louis Davidson" <louisd20@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:xxnhc.36663$Yw5.11448@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Well by now I assume that you are more confused than before you asked for
advice.
Read it your way.
What matters most is understanding the Bible.
Matthew verse 18: will guide you, your Spirit will lead you.
Enjoy. It is a pleasant journey,
Louis.
"Patrick Babb" <patrick_babb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:29dbd66f.0404200546.506aef53@posting.google.com...
Hello everyone. I have what is probably a fairly common question for
you all.
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path, I've
begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm considering reading
the Bible (Old and New Testament), and have heard you shouldn't just
read it from front to back. Rather, you should start with the
synoptics (matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and would
appreciate any suggestions. Also, I do want to emphasize that I plan
to read the Old Testament as well, so any suggestions regarding that
would be helpful.
Thanks in Advance,
Patrick Babb
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| User: "disciple" |
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| Title: Re: Suggestions for Reading the Bible |
21 Apr 2004 11:14:03 PM |
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You can listen to the New Testament being read by someone else, for free
online at this website:
http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/bible.html Start with Matthew and go
all the way through to Revelation. You can also listen to the Old Testament
there.
It is good to ask God to teach you what the New Testament really means
before you read it or listen to it.
You can cover the bible quicker by listening to it on tape or at that
website on the computer. Your ears don't get tired as fast as your eyes do,
and the Bible is a big book.
Note: The King James version is the most accurate to the original writings.
There are some modern bibles that are really fakes and men have changed the
words around.
You can buy the cassette tapes with the Bible on it at Scourby.com.
Patrick Babb wrote in message
<29dbd66f.0404200546.506aef53@posting.google.com>...
Hello everyone. I have what is probably a fairly common question for
you all.
I'm an agnostic, and in my search to find my spiritual path, I've
begun studying various religions as a hobby. I'm considering reading
the Bible (Old and New Testament), and have heard you shouldn't just
read it from front to back. Rather, you should start with the
synoptics (matthew, luke, and john i think), and proceed from there.
Again, I've little experience with reading the Bible, and would
appreciate any suggestions. Also, I do want to emphasize that I plan
to read the Old Testament as well, so any suggestions regarding that
would be helpful.
Thanks in Advance,
Patrick Babb
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