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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Dore"
Date: 24 Apr 2004 02:00:16 PM
Object: Surviving the Tribulation
The beast wants you dead!
The Illuminati, the rulers of the beast, held meetings concerning with
population control. Their goal is to rid the earth of overpopulation,
getting the numbers down to 500 million, with the survivors to be their mind
controlled, robot slaves, so they can live as gods, but I have a different
plan. They have created biological, chemical and nuclear warfare, as well as
the “business” of diseases, cancers, heart disease, Aids, Sars, West Nile
virus, war etc. to attain this goal. They have recently implemented
chemtrails to pollute your air, as well as making absolutely sure, you need
an air polluting vehicle, which pours millions of gallons of carbon monoxide
and other chemicals into the air. Carbon monoxide at high levels induces
brain damage, destroys the bodies immune systems and causes death. And you
wonder why you are having trouble thinking or remembering things, it’s
because you are breathing in carbon monoxide daily, while you sit at every
red light, sucking in the exhaust from the car in front of you, slowly
destroying your brain cells.
Chemtrails, found to contain ethylene dibromide(EDB), an extremely
hazardous pesticide, EDB was banned by the US Environmental Protection
Agency in 1983, are being seen all over the US and Canada, and if you take
notice, you will probably see them over your skies in the morning and at
dusk. You can view pictures of these chemtrails from all over the nation and
in Canada at.
http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html
I will also post pictures that I have taken myself of chemtrails over my
hometown, on my website and on the gatheringtherighteous yahoo group.
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/gatheringtherighteous/lst
The EDB in chemtrails have been known to cause respiratory distress and
diseases as well as being retained in the testes, causing sterilization.
Now what to do to survive the beast’s intent on your destruction.
Get a water Distiller.
The water is poisoned. Nationwide there are over 2100 organic and inorganic
chemicals that have been added to water and 156 of them are pure
carcinogens. You can’t even trust bottled water. The fallout from Chemtrails
is also getting into the ground and into the water.
Change your diet.
Americans are obese but they are nutritionally starving. Processing and
COOKING food destroys ALL nutritional value, and the additives are
destructive to your body. The chemicals and hormones they put into your
cattle, chicken etc to make them fat for high profits, are then in your body
when you eat them. The animals also are drinking the water polluted from the
chemtrails. The seas and rivers are polluted and fish are found to have high
levels of agents, toxins and poisons as well. So if you eat fish, try to eat
those caught in open sea, where the levels are diluted. Eat organic and eat
raw fruits and vegetables as the main part of your diet. Get into
healthfoods and do the research to find what foods and supplements are used
to remove toxins from your body, as well as pertain to your unique
situations and problems. A few examples of things that remove toxins are
green tea, chlorella, and spirulina. Take vitamins and take extra fiber
every day. You can get fiber supplements at your local drug store. Your
colon is where your body absorbs the toxins and keep circulating them in
your blood stream, so make sure you eliminate these toxins that you take in
daily in your food, water and air.
Here are a few websites to consider and ones that I recommend. But you can
probably find many natural health websites.
http://www.herbalhealer.com/
http://www.herbalhealer.com/breakingnews.shtml/
http://www.hacres.com/home.asp/
The Patriot Acts are specifically designed to have you arrested,
incarcerated, and eventually exterminated. Now the Patriot Acts were
designed and marketed as laws regarding supposedly terrorists outside the
US, that are against the United States, (which don’t exist, btw, for all
terrorism is orchestrated, trained, financially supported and implemented by
the beast) however, in their subtle deceptions it will be used against it’s
own civilians and in so many words, describes “terrorists” as anyone who is
part of a hate group (Christians), breaks the law, speaks out against the
government and/or demands Constitutional rights.
Be mindful of what you say publicly, privately, in emails, on the phone etc.
The Patriot Acts allows the government to monitor every tiny thing you do
and say without any of your knowledge. My telephone is tapped now, and you
can tell if your phone is being monitored because you will hear gaps and
interruptions of silence every few minutes during your conversations.
However, although I am being monitored, do not fear interaction or
conversations with me, for they KNOW who I am, and they will do nothing to
me, so trusting in me, will have multitudes of angels protecting you as
well. They are only monitoring me to see if I am amassing groups and
inciting an uprising or rebellion against them, which you can clearly see, I
am not, so that is their only concern. By following my instructions, they
will find you innocent as doves, and law abiding citizens and will have NO
reason to arrest, injure, abuse or harass you.
http://www.infowars.com/police_state.html/
They will eventually outlaw the Bible as hate literature, and any Christian
speaking against homosexuality will help institute this law. So do not speak
about homosexuality at any time, not even at home in front of children,
because they are teaching the children in the schools, to rat on their
parents and actually tempting them with $100 payoffs. Other things they are
asking children to report on are if you own any guns or have drugs, so if
you do, so you might want to take care of that situation now, before the
Homeland Security force is amassed and in place.
They are now considering implementing the military draft in Congress. I have
NO doubt, this bill will pass with flying colors of the red, white and blue
and will begin in 2005. All children between the ages of 18-26, male and
female, will have to serve in the military or for Homeland security and this
is MANDATORY. Even if they sign up as conscientious objectors, they will
still have to enter the military, but will not be trained in combat.
However, although the ONLY requirement in the bill is that they will NOT be
trained in combat, doesn’t necessarily mean that they will never be “IN”
combat. You have to understand the mindset and deceit that the beast uses to
always get the ends to it’s means. They carefully word their bills so that
they can twist, distort and find loopholes to get what they want. They need
a massive military force for their intentions are to invade, control and
occupy every nation on the earth, as well as militarily police the civilians
of the US, thus the demand for service to Homeland security. This bill also
provides ALL power to the President, which is completely UNCONSTITUTIONAL,
thus PROVING the soon to be revealing of the Anti-christ, the son of
perdition as foretold in prophecy. When inducted into the military, your
children will forced to take the mark of the beast, a computer chip placed
beneath the skin, as well as be forced to take “precautions” such as cipro,
and other chemical agents, that supposedly helps prevent biological warfare
illnesses, however, the “preventions” will possibly leave them sterile, or
have other major health affects. As in the two gulf wars, they used depleted
uranium in their bombs, that have irradiated, not only the area, but their
soldiers as well, and thousands are returning home with various permanent
ill affects caused by this radiation, so it is likely this will occur in any
war that the US is engaged in. They are also providing the means that anyone
between the ages of 18-26 will not be able to leave the country and dodge
the draft, as in the past. So, if you have children between those ages and
you do NOT want them serving the beast as their military police, you may
want to consider leaving this country NOW, before the draft is law.
Now if you do not heed my advice and find yourself arrested, as a “suspected
terrorist”, expect to lose your home, possessions, all money and family. You
will have NO ability to defend yourself, and you will be incarcerated
indefinitely with no rights under the law. They will take your children and
make them wards of the state, which then will train them to be their
mind-controlled slaves, possibly sold into the sex slavery trade. Where do
you think many of these children on your milk boxes go when reported
abducted? You have to remember, these people are SATANISTS, and they use
many of these Satanic families for their lucrative business intents and are
bred just for mind-controlled sex slaves or for mind controlled violent
outbursts. It is fact that the US government is in the business of child sex
rings, and the world being as evil as it is, there is a major market for
this, so the possibility of your child being taken and used for this purpose
is high. The fact, that you are hearing so much about child abductions,
parents murdering their children, and school shootings, which are acts
performed by these Satanic mind controlled slaves, is the beast attempting
to show that they need to raise your children and provide “security” for
them, thus YOU losing your parental rights and they taking your children
away to profit off this ever increasing business.
The beast is as evil as it gets. So don’t doubt for one moment that anything
I say here is not true. And remember whatever the most evil thing you can
possibly think of or ever even imagined, the US government and the beast is
indulging in these horrors and worse. And as servants of the devil you can
be darn sure that every word from any government official’s mouth is a
bold-faced LIE, and all of the things that they do, is done in secret, and
most of the public are blinded by their brain-washing, propaganda,
manipulation and deceit, so do NOT be fooled by them. And even though what
they do is in secret, as was written in the Word, everything is being
revealed if you are paying attention and doing the research you will
discover just how evil these rulers, your President, your government is.
Matt 10:26
26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be
revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
KJV
Now, none of this is to scare you, although it is very frightening, because
it is absolutely true, however, what is more frightening is ignoring these
warnings and FACTS and pretending it is not occurring and then being caught
in ignorance. The truth sets you free, so be mature and informed by the
truth no matter how evil, frightening and horrific it is, then act wisely
accordingly, regarding what you learn and you will be protected and endure
until the end of the tribulation, where freedom and the wonderful government
of God will come at last.
If anyone would like to know more about the beast and the hidden truths,
please email me with your postal address and I will send you the
information.
dorewilliamson@verizon.net
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
.

User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 24 Apr 2004 02:27:02 PM
LOL
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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The beast wants you dead!

Now why would you want that ?

The Illuminati,

Is pure conspiracy-theory fiction

the rulers of the beast, held meetings concerning with
population control. Their goal is to rid the earth of overpopulation,
getting the numbers down to 500 million, with the survivors to be their

mind

controlled, robot slaves, so they can live as gods, but I have a different
plan. They have created biological, chemical and nuclear warfare, as well

as

the "business" of diseases, cancers, heart disease, Aids, Sars, West Nile
virus, war etc. to attain this goal.

They didn't, but overpopulation itself creates its own solutions,
starvation, shortages, wars, plagues.....
<snip>
.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 24 Apr 2004 03:35:09 PM
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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LOL

That's Ok, Glenn, as you well know, I don't want you surviving the
tribulation anyway.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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LOL

"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4Pyic.32271$2v.14939@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...


The beast wants you dead!


Now why would you want that ?

The Illuminati,


Is pure conspiracy-theory fiction

the rulers of the beast, held meetings concerning with
population control. Their goal is to rid the earth of overpopulation,
getting the numbers down to 500 million, with the survivors to be their

mind

controlled, robot slaves, so they can live as gods, but I have a

different

plan. They have created biological, chemical and nuclear warfare, as

well

as

the "business" of diseases, cancers, heart disease, Aids, Sars, West

Nile

virus, war etc. to attain this goal.


They didn't, but overpopulation itself creates its own solutions,
starvation, shortages, wars, plagues.....

<snip>


.
User: "Rick"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 24 Apr 2004 10:06:55 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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LOL



That's Ok, Glenn, as you well know, I don't want you surviving the
tribulation anyway.

--
Dore

Thus saith the beast

www.dorewilliamson.com



"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:108lfs62kfnqlb7@corp.supernews.com...


LOL

"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4Pyic.32271$2v.14939@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...


The beast wants you dead!


Now why would you want that ?

The Illuminati,


Is pure conspiracy-theory fiction

the rulers of the beast, held meetings concerning with
population control. Their goal is to rid the earth of overpopulation,
getting the numbers down to 500 million, with the survivors to be

their

mind

controlled, robot slaves, so they can live as gods, but I have a

different

plan. They have created biological, chemical and nuclear warfare, as

well

as

the "business" of diseases, cancers, heart disease, Aids, Sars, West

Nile

virus, war etc. to attain this goal.


They didn't, but overpopulation itself creates its own solutions,
starvation, shortages, wars, plagues.....

<snip>




.
User: "Falkentyne"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 27 Apr 2004 08:07:00 PM
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 03:06:55 GMT, "Rick" <hoganrj@bigpond.net.au.au>
wrote:


"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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LOL



That's Ok, Glenn, as you well know, I don't want you surviving the
tribulation anyway.

--
Dore


Thus saith the beast

Hah.....
This would make a great Science fiction movie....
I'm not so sure that Dore is *the* beast, but he definitely is *A*
beast.....
Peter must be turning in his grave.......
.


User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 26 Apr 2004 08:38:44 AM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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LOL


That's Ok, Glenn, as you well know, I don't want you surviving the
tribulation anyway.

Survived my tribulation already.
BTW you also didn't want me to survive 2001, remember ?
So seeing as your desires are worthless, I am certian that I will survive
"the" tribulation, as well :-)

--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com

Glenn (Christian Mystic)
<snip>
.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 27 Apr 2004 09:52:49 PM
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Survived my tribulation already.
BTW you also didn't want me to survive 2001, remember ?
So seeing as your desires are worthless, I am certian that I will survive
"the" tribulation, as well :-)

You may have survived your own tribulation but what does that have to do
with the tribulation spoken about in the Word that will come upon the whole
earth?
And it is true that I wanted you dead, so many times in fact, however, God
saw fit to keep you alive, so your evil and darkness will provide the
background for the awesome light of those who fight against you. You see,
even evil has a purpose.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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LOL


That's Ok, Glenn, as you well know, I don't want you surviving the
tribulation anyway.


Survived my tribulation already.
BTW you also didn't want me to survive 2001, remember ?
So seeing as your desires are worthless, I am certian that I will survive
"the" tribulation, as well :-)

--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com


Glenn (Christian Mystic)

<snip>


.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 29 Apr 2004 05:13:02 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Survived my tribulation already.
BTW you also didn't want me to survive 2001, remember ?
So seeing as your desires are worthless, I am certian that I will

survive

"the" tribulation, as well :-)


You may have survived your own tribulation but what does that have to do
with the tribulation spoken about in the Word that will come upon the

whole

earth?

See Gen.1:10-11 for what God calls earth = soil, land, My, literally seven
year long, tribulation began in the USA (North American "earth") and ended,
with some very LITERAL fulfilments of tribulation prophecy, while I was in
the Philippines (I ran away to the Philippines, hoping to escape the
tribulation which I saw coming to me, only to dive deeper into it !)
The sun went out at noon, like as a moonless night, a literal hail of
flaming rocks fell all around me, the water, rivers and streams (and an
ocean 'red tide' called this because the water come ashore blood red) became
bitter "wormwood", and the fishes died, and floated on the water, people
died all around me, when it cleared, just a little, the sun and moon's light
was BLOOD RED...
It was UNDENYABLE, at least for me, I was experiencing "THE" tribultation,
of my life ! I was just a bit too close to Mt Pinatubo when it erupted :-(,
while involved in a successful rescue of the children, their moms, and some
of the younger men who had lived in the mountain's cone. Their "elders"
stayed to try to appease the anger of the 'mountain god' (sad)
YES this tribulation came to the "whole earth" that I happened to be on. See
Ecc.1:9-10, the prophecies are continually fulfilled at least once,
somewhere of this planet, in every generation

And it is true that I wanted you dead, so many times in fact, however, God
saw fit to keep you alive, so your evil and darkness will provide the
background for the awesome light of those who fight against you.

God kept me alive, because I am HIS, just like when I was just shy of my
16th birthday, when I had died on an operating table, He sent me back, after
I had experienced my RAPTURE to Heaven !

You see, even evil has a purpose.

Rev.12:10-11, yes, EVEN the ACCUSER has a purpose !

--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com

Glenn (Christian Mystic)
<snip>
.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 30 Apr 2004 06:10:55 PM
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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God kept me alive, because I am HIS, just like when I was just shy of my
16th birthday, when I had died on an operating table, He sent me back,

after

I had experienced my RAPTURE to Heaven !

And you threw it ALL away when Satan tempted you into his realm of
mysticism, lies and evil.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Survived my tribulation already.
BTW you also didn't want me to survive 2001, remember ?
So seeing as your desires are worthless, I am certian that I will

survive

"the" tribulation, as well :-)


You may have survived your own tribulation but what does that have to do
with the tribulation spoken about in the Word that will come upon the

whole

earth?


See Gen.1:10-11 for what God calls earth = soil, land, My, literally seven
year long, tribulation began in the USA (North American "earth") and

ended,

with some very LITERAL fulfilments of tribulation prophecy, while I was in
the Philippines (I ran away to the Philippines, hoping to escape the
tribulation which I saw coming to me, only to dive deeper into it !)
The sun went out at noon, like as a moonless night, a literal hail of
flaming rocks fell all around me, the water, rivers and streams (and an
ocean 'red tide' called this because the water come ashore blood red)

became

bitter "wormwood", and the fishes died, and floated on the water, people
died all around me, when it cleared, just a little, the sun and moon's

light

was BLOOD RED...
It was UNDENYABLE, at least for me, I was experiencing "THE" tribultation,
of my life ! I was just a bit too close to Mt Pinatubo when it erupted

:-(,

while involved in a successful rescue of the children, their moms, and

some

of the younger men who had lived in the mountain's cone. Their "elders"
stayed to try to appease the anger of the 'mountain god' (sad)

YES this tribulation came to the "whole earth" that I happened to be on.

See

Ecc.1:9-10, the prophecies are continually fulfilled at least once,
somewhere of this planet, in every generation


And it is true that I wanted you dead, so many times in fact, however,

God

saw fit to keep you alive, so your evil and darkness will provide the
background for the awesome light of those who fight against you.


God kept me alive, because I am HIS, just like when I was just shy of my
16th birthday, when I had died on an operating table, He sent me back,

after

I had experienced my RAPTURE to Heaven !

You see, even evil has a purpose.


Rev.12:10-11, yes, EVEN the ACCUSER has a purpose !

--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com


Glenn (Christian Mystic)

<snip>


.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 01 May 2004 06:08:36 AM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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God kept me alive, because I am HIS, just like when I was just shy of my
16th birthday, when I had died on an operating table, He sent me back,

after

I had experienced my RAPTURE to Heaven !


And you threw it ALL away when Satan tempted you into his realm of
mysticism, lies and evil.

You sure did

--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com

Glenn (Christian Mystic)
<snip>
.

User: "erikc"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 30 Apr 2004 09:25:12 PM
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:10:55 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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God kept me alive, because I am HIS, just like when I was just shy of my
16th birthday, when I had died on an operating table, He sent me back,

after

I had experienced my RAPTURE to Heaven !


And you threw it ALL away when Satan tempted you into his realm of
mysticism, lies and evil.

And you know this precisely how? What gives you the right to tell someone how
they will relate to the god they believe in or the one they don't?
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.
.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 04 May 2004 04:11:18 PM
Thanks Erikc
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:10:55 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>

wrote:


"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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God kept me alive, because I am HIS, just like when I was just shy of

my

16th birthday, when I had died on an operating table, He sent me back,

after

I had experienced my RAPTURE to Heaven !


And you threw it ALL away when Satan tempted you into his realm of
mysticism, lies and evil.


And you know this precisely how? What gives you the right to tell someone

how

they will relate to the god they believe in or the one they don't?


Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.

.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 04 May 2004 06:37:17 PM
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Erikc

Glenn supporting the ignorant concepts of atheists. What does that tell you?
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Erikc

"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:10:55 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>

wrote:


"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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God kept me alive, because I am HIS, just like when I was just shy of

my

16th birthday, when I had died on an operating table, He sent me

back,

after

I had experienced my RAPTURE to Heaven !


And you threw it ALL away when Satan tempted you into his realm of
mysticism, lies and evil.


And you know this precisely how? What gives you the right to tell

someone

how

they will relate to the god they believe in or the one they don't?


Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
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Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.



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User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 05 May 2004 10:47:55 AM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Erikc


Glenn supporting the ignorant concepts of atheists. What does that tell

you?
That you are misinformed

--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com

Glenn (Christian Mystic)
.

User: "erikc"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 05 May 2004 07:04:50 PM
On Tue, 04 May 2004 23:37:17 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109g1ncom03l8fb@corp.supernews.com...

Thanks Erikc


Glenn supporting the ignorant concepts of atheists. What does that tell you?

That perhaps atheists and christians can find common ground, even though they
may have radically differring sets of beliefs?
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.
.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 06 May 2004 09:28:25 PM
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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That perhaps atheists and christians can find common ground, even though

they

may have radically differring sets of beliefs?

Being an atheist, obviously, you have NO clue of what it means to be a TRUE
Christian, who are those who have the mind of Christ, not in agreement with
those EVIL ONES, who DENY GOD. There is NO common ground between
righteousness and evil. Glenn is NO Christian.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 23:37:17 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>

wrote:


"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109g1ncom03l8fb@corp.supernews.com...

Thanks Erikc


Glenn supporting the ignorant concepts of atheists. What does that tell

you?


That perhaps atheists and christians can find common ground, even though

they

may have radically differring sets of beliefs?

Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.

.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 08 May 2004 04:03:19 PM
Coming from you, thanks, as you are wrong about so many other things, why
not this as well ?
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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That perhaps atheists and christians can find common ground, even though

they

may have radically differring sets of beliefs?


Being an atheist, obviously, you have NO clue of what it means to be a

TRUE

Christian, who are those who have the mind of Christ, not in agreement

with

those EVIL ONES, who DENY GOD. There is NO common ground between
righteousness and evil. Glenn is NO Christian.

--
Dore

www.dorewilliamson.com



"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 23:37:17 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>

wrote:


"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109g1ncom03l8fb@corp.supernews.com...

Thanks Erikc


Glenn supporting the ignorant concepts of atheists. What does that tell

you?


That perhaps atheists and christians can find common ground, even though

they

may have radically differring sets of beliefs?

Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.



.

User: "erikc"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 08 May 2004 01:05:44 PM
On Fri, 07 May 2004 02:28:25 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:d4oi90hgml11bqqaf17bucufv0e1u0k34p@4ax.com...

That perhaps atheists and christians can find common ground, even though

they

may have radically differring sets of beliefs?


Being an atheist, obviously, you have NO clue of what it means to be a TRUE
Christian, who are those who have the mind of Christ, not in agreement with
those EVIL ONES, who DENY GOD. There is NO common ground between
righteousness and evil. Glenn is NO Christian.

Precisely how do you know this and does anybody agree with you?
Actually, it doesn't matter, Dore, you can rant and rave and judge all you
want, but without power to enforce your judgements, you're just a voice crying
in the wilderness.
It must be terribly lonely where you are.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.
.


User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 06 May 2004 03:55:31 PM
Exactly
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 23:37:17 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>

wrote:


"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109g1ncom03l8fb@corp.supernews.com...

Thanks Erikc


Glenn supporting the ignorant concepts of atheists. What does that tell

you?


That perhaps atheists and christians can find common ground, even though

they

may have radically differring sets of beliefs?

Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.

.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 06 May 2004 09:29:34 PM
Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109l9hnestthjb4@corp.supernews.com...

Exactly

John 8:44-45
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because
there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
KJV
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Exactly

"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 23:37:17 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>

wrote:


"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109g1ncom03l8fb@corp.supernews.com...

Thanks Erikc


Glenn supporting the ignorant concepts of atheists. What does that tell

you?


That perhaps atheists and christians can find common ground, even though

they

may have radically differring sets of beliefs?

Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.



.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 08 May 2004 04:00:29 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109l9hnestthjb4@corp.supernews.com...

Exactly


John 8:44-45
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will

do.

He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because
there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
KJV

There she goes talking about herself, again

--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com

Glenn (Christian Mystic)
.

User: "Henry Etta"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 07 May 2004 03:48:52 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109l9hnestthjb4@corp.supernews.com...

Exactly

John 8
7But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If
any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at
her." 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones
first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman Dore still standing there.
10Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Dore, where are they? Has no one
condemned you?"
11"No one, sir," she said.
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and live your life
of sin."
Henry Etta




John 8:44-45
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will
do.
He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because
there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
KJV

--
Dore

www.dorewilliamson.com



"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Exactly

"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 23:37:17 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>

wrote:


"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109g1ncom03l8fb@corp.supernews.com...

Thanks Erikc


Glenn supporting the ignorant concepts of atheists. What does that
tell

you?


That perhaps atheists and christians can find common ground, even
though

they

may have radically differring sets of beliefs?

Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.





.

User: "erikc"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 08 May 2004 01:05:47 PM
On Fri, 07 May 2004 02:29:34 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109l9hnestthjb4@corp.supernews.com...

Exactly




John 8:44-45
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because
there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
KJV

Oh, please. Anybody can quote scripture, it doesn't mean anything. Tell us
in your own words, without either quoting scripture or using your stock
phrases, just what your beef with Glenn is.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.
.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 08 May 2004 06:58:04 PM
Her beef has to do with misinterpreting the word 'mystic' as so many people
often do
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 May 2004 02:29:34 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>

wrote:


Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109l9hnestthjb4@corp.supernews.com...

Exactly




John 8:44-45
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will

do.

He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because
there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
KJV


Oh, please. Anybody can quote scripture, it doesn't mean anything. Tell

us

in your own words, without either quoting scripture or using your stock
phrases, just what your beef with Glenn is.

Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.

.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 08 May 2004 07:26:13 PM
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109qt0er380a53e@corp.supernews.com...

Her beef has to do with misinterpreting the word 'mystic' as so many

people

often do

No, your problem is attempting to pretend that something EVIL is something
good.
Isa 5:20-24
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for
light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for
bitter!
21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own
sight!
22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to
mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of
the righteous from him!
24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the
chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up
as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and
despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
KJV
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109qt0er380a53e@corp.supernews.com...

Her beef has to do with misinterpreting the word 'mystic' as so many

people

often do

"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:9kjo9010l4al63gmrcdphshl84d7f4116h@4ax.com...

On Fri, 07 May 2004 02:29:34 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>

wrote:


Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109l9hnestthjb4@corp.supernews.com...

Exactly




John 8:44-45
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye

will

do.

He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,

because

there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his

own:

for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
KJV


Oh, please. Anybody can quote scripture, it doesn't mean anything.

Tell

us

in your own words, without either quoting scripture or using your stock
phrases, just what your beef with Glenn is.

Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
=====
Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.



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User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 10 May 2004 01:53:57 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:FUenc.19133$vz5.399@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...

"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109qt0er380a53e@corp.supernews.com...

Her beef has to do with misinterpreting the word 'mystic' as so many

people

often do


No, your problem is attempting to pretend that something EVIL is something
good.

Mysticism, like Fundamentalism, literalism, and etc. are in theirselves
neither good nor bad, in themselves, it has more to do with the type of
mysticism, and what religion(s) it is attached to !

Isa 5:20-24
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for
light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for
bitter!
21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own
sight!

Yeah, like Dorie

22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to
mingle strong drink:

Please prove that I am 'mighty to drink...'

23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of
the righteous from him!
24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth

the

chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up
as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and
despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
KJV

Thank God none of the above applies to me, is THAT the best supposed attack
on mysticism that you can come up with ?

--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com

Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message

news:109qt0er380a53e@corp.supernews.com...

I repeat, again, Dorie's "beef" against me...

Her beef has to do with misinterpreting the word 'mystic' as so many

people

often do

Glenn (Christian Mystic)
.

User: "Henry Etta"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 09 May 2004 11:55:03 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:FUenc.19133$vz5.399@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...

"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:109qt0er380a53e@corp.supernews.com...

Her beef has to do with misinterpreting the word 'mystic' as so many

people

often do



No, your problem is attempting to pretend that something EVIL is something
good.

Isa 5:20-24
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for
light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for
bitter!
21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own
sight!
22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to
mingle strong drink:

I'll drink to that! <G>
Henry Etta
.












User: "Misty"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 28 Apr 2004 03:13:17 AM
Dore wrote:

"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:108q470e5n9gt34@corp.supernews.com...

Survived my tribulation already.
BTW you also didn't want me to survive 2001, remember ?
So seeing as your desires are worthless, I am certian that I will survive
"the" tribulation, as well :-)



You may have survived your own tribulation but what does that have to do
with the tribulation spoken about in the Word that will come upon the whole
earth?

Can you give us book chapter and verse for any Tribulation that has not
been fulfilled as of today?
This could bet very interesting if you can because then the bible is
redoing itself avery so often and we can tear out the pages of those
that have already been fulfilled.


And it is true that I wanted you dead, so many times in fact, however, God
saw fit to keep you alive, so your evil and darkness will provide the
background for the awesome light of those who fight against you. You see,
even evil has a purpose.

Even if you are mad at your brother without just cause "you are a murderer".
See the Gospel of Matthew.
Misty,


.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 28 Apr 2004 07:33:31 PM
"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
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Can you give us book chapter and verse for any Tribulation that has not
been fulfilled as of today?

Luke 17:26-30
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the
Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in
marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came,
and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank,
they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone
from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
KJV
Isa 28:22
22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I
have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon
the whole earth.
KJV
Zech 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people
that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while
they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their
holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
KJV
Isa 13:5-9
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and
the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a
destruction from the Almighty.
7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they
shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at
another; their faces shall be as flames.
9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce
anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof
out of it.
KJV
Rev 6:12-7:1
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a
great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the
moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth
her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every
mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the
chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man,
hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the
face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
KJV
Rev 16:2-11
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell
a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast,
and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as
the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of
waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which
art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given
them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true
and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given
unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God,
which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him
glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and
his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores,
and repented not of their deeds.
KJV
Rev 16:19-17:1
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the
nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto
her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the
weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the
hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
KJV
Rev 9:18-10:1
18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the
smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails
were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet
repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship
devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood:
which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of
their fornication, nor of their thefts.
KJV
cont

Even if you are mad at your brother without just cause "you are a

murderer".

See the Gospel of Matthew.

WITHOUT CAUSE? Is lies, evil, disobedience and disrespect to God, sins,
slander, verbal abuse, contempt, arrogance, defiance , pride, and Satanic
servitude, cause to be angry or not?
Oh and BTW, Glenn is NOT MY brother for he does NOT do the will of GOD.
Matt 12:50
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same
is my brother, and sister, and mother.
KJV
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
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Dore wrote:

"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Survived my tribulation already.
BTW you also didn't want me to survive 2001, remember ?
So seeing as your desires are worthless, I am certian that I will

survive

"the" tribulation, as well :-)



You may have survived your own tribulation but what does that have to do
with the tribulation spoken about in the Word that will come upon the

whole

earth?


Can you give us book chapter and verse for any Tribulation that has not
been fulfilled as of today?

This could bet very interesting if you can because then the bible is
redoing itself avery so often and we can tear out the pages of those
that have already been fulfilled.


And it is true that I wanted you dead, so many times in fact, however,

God

saw fit to keep you alive, so your evil and darkness will provide the
background for the awesome light of those who fight against you. You

see,

even evil has a purpose.


Even if you are mad at your brother without just cause "you are a

murderer".

See the Gospel of Matthew.

Misty,



.
User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 29 Apr 2004 04:46:22 PM
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"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
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<snipped a bunch of scriptures, which can be understood in many ways, to
which it is clear that my understanding of them, in (context with God's WILL
which cannot fail), does not match up with hers (Dorie's)>

Even if you are mad at your brother without just cause "you are a

murderer".

See the Gospel of Matthew.


WITHOUT CAUSE? Is lies, evil, disobedience and disrespect to God, sins,
slander, verbal abuse, contempt, arrogance, defiance , pride, and Satanic
servitude, cause to be angry or not?

Rev.12:10-11, there Dorie goes making ACCUSATIONS yet Again ! One wonders if
she will ever learn.

Oh and BTW, Glenn is NOT MY brother for he does NOT do the will of GOD.

You have funny ideas of just what "God's will" is.

Matt 12:50
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the

same

is my brother, and sister, and mother.
KJV

Thank you for confirming that I am Christ's brother !

--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com

Glenn (Christian Mystic)
.

User: "Misty"

Title: Re: Surviving the Tribulation 29 Apr 2004 05:38:22 AM
Dore wrote:

"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
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Can you give us book chapter and verse for any Tribulation that has not
been fulfilled as of today?



Luke 17:26-30
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the
Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in
marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came,
and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank,
they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone
from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
KJV

OK That be a on going Prophecy that has nothing to do with the Great Tribulation.


Isa 28:22
22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I
have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon
the whole earth.
KJV

Is this about the GT?


Zech 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people
that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while
they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their
holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
KJV

Is that about the GT? This one looks like it is against individuals.



Isa 13:5-9
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and
the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a
destruction from the Almighty.
7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they
shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at
another; their faces shall be as flames.
9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce
anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof
out of it.
KJV

Is that about the GT? It looks like that is about the destruction of old Jerusalem
70 AD..


Rev 6:12-7:1
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a
great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the
moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth
her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every
mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the
chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man,
hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the
face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
KJV

That is right after the GT. The first 7 verses are about the GT.


Rev 16:2-11
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell
a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast,
and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as
the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of
waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which
art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given
them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true
and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given
unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God,
which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him
glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and
his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores,
and repented not of their deeds.
KJV

Is that about the GT? or is it about the coming of the Son of Man?


Rev 16:19-17:1
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the
nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto
her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the
weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the
hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
KJV

Is that about the GT? or is that about the time long after the GT?



Rev 9:18-10:1
18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the
smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails
were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet
repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship
devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood:
which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of
their fornication, nor of their thefts.
KJV

Is that about the GT? yes it is and it is a done deal some time in the last
2,000 years. Some of it is going on today as in the aftermath in preparation
of the coming God laws on the land.
Misty,



cont


Even if you are mad at your brother without just cause "you are a


murderer".

See the Gospel of Matthew.



WITHOUT CAUSE? Is lies, evil, disobedience and disrespect to God, sins,
slander, verbal abuse, contempt, arrogance, defiance , pride, and Satanic
servitude, cause to be angry or not?

Oh and BTW, Glenn is NOT MY brother for he does NOT do the will of GOD.

Matt 12:50
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same
is my brother, and sister, and mother.
KJV

.








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