Religions > Bible > Texas Gov. Rick Perry: Non-Christians are condemned to spend eternity in hell
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06 Nov 2006 01:06:54 PM |
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry: Non-Christians are condemned to spend eternity in hell |
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Perry was among some 60 mostly Republican candidates for Tuesday's
midterm election attending a Sunday service at San Antonio's
Cornerstone Church, where pastor John Hagee said in his sermon
non-Christians were "going straight to hell with a non-stop ticket,"
The Dallas Morning News reported.
Afterward, Perry told reporters there was nothing in the sermon he
could disagree with, prompting quick condemnations from opponents.
"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does he?" said
independent candidate Kinky Friedman. "Being obsessed with who's going
to heaven and who's going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time."
Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more cautious
in his remarks.
"God is the only one who can make the decision as to who gets into the
kingdom of heaven," Bell said.
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06 Nov 2006 03:49:21 PM |
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"Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com> wrote in message
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http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Great. So now I can assume the governor of my state, without the benefit of
trial, has decided that in agreement with his god, I deserve to be tortured
forever.
No wonder I voted against the *****.
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| User: "gerry" |
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07 Nov 2006 12:11:44 AM |
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As opposed to Texans, who are in Republican hell already.
Williams wrote:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Perry was among some 60 mostly Republican candidates for Tuesday's
midterm election attending a Sunday service at San Antonio's
Cornerstone Church, where pastor John Hagee said in his sermon
non-Christians were "going straight to hell with a non-stop ticket,"
The Dallas Morning News reported.
Afterward, Perry told reporters there was nothing in the sermon he
could disagree with, prompting quick condemnations from opponents.
"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does he?" said
independent candidate Kinky Friedman. "Being obsessed with who's going
to heaven and who's going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time."
Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more cautious
in his remarks.
"God is the only one who can make the decision as to who gets into the
kingdom of heaven," Bell said.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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06 Nov 2006 01:53:04 PM |
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On 6 Nov 2006 11:06:54 -0800, "Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com>
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Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more cautious
in his remarks.
He should be more cautions in his way of life. "More cautious in his
remarks" means he should lie about what he thinks. Which, considering
his predecessor, is probably a good thing if he doesn't want to be
unemployed.
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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06 Nov 2006 01:59:39 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On 6 Nov 2006 11:06:54 -0800, "Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com>
wrote:
Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more cautious
in his remarks.
He should be more cautions in his way of life. "More cautious in his
remarks" means he should lie about what he thinks. Which, considering
his predecessor, is probably a good thing if he doesn't want to be
unemployed.
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Does that mean that Jesus doesn't love us anymore?
Greywolf
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| User: "Ghod" |
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06 Nov 2006 03:32:21 PM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
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On 6 Nov 2006 11:06:54 -0800, "Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com>
wrote:
Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more
cautious
in his remarks.
He should be more cautions in his way of life. "More cautious in
his
remarks" means he should lie about what he thinks. Which,
considering
his predecessor, is probably a good thing if he doesn't want to be
unemployed.
--
Does that mean that Jesus doesn't love us anymore?
Er, no Virginia, he never did.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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06 Nov 2006 09:58:27 PM |
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On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:32:21 -0600, "Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote:
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On 6 Nov 2006 11:06:54 -0800, "Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com>
wrote:
Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more
cautious
in his remarks.
He should be more cautions in his way of life. "More cautious in
his
remarks" means he should lie about what he thinks. Which,
considering
his predecessor, is probably a good thing if he doesn't want to be
unemployed.
--
Does that mean that Jesus doesn't love us anymore?
Er, no Virginia, he never did.
Love anyone, or anything else.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise
as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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| User: "milou" |
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06 Nov 2006 04:23:32 PM |
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On 6 Nov 2006 11:06:54 -0800, "Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com>
wrote:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Quote from a famous essay:
"As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different
religions that exist in the world today.
Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their
religion, you will go to Hell.
Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do
not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go
to Hell."
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Nov 2006 09:30:09 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:23:32 +0000, milou <puce@zig.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On 6 Nov 2006 11:06:54 -0800, "Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com>
wrote:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Quote from a famous essay:
"As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different
religions that exist in the world today.
Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their
religion, you will go to Hell.
Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do
not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go
to Hell."
Christians, in general, aren't known for their education or cognitive
skills. Perry, and Bush, are grand examples of mental toddlerhood.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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07 Nov 2006 12:47:31 PM |
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Williams schrieb:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Perry was among some 60 mostly Republican candidates for Tuesday's
midterm election attending a Sunday service at San Antonio's
Cornerstone Church, where pastor John Hagee said in his sermon
non-Christians were "going straight to hell with a non-stop ticket,"
The Dallas Morning News reported.
Afterward, Perry told reporters there was nothing in the sermon he
could disagree with, prompting quick condemnations from opponents.
"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does he?" said
independent candidate Kinky Friedman. "Being obsessed with who's going
to heaven and who's going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time."
Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more cautious
in his remarks.
"God is the only one who can make the decision as to who gets into the
kingdom of heaven," Bell said.
Why has the USA become a religious country no different than the very
same coutries they are fighting against? When will a politician stand
up and say "I don't believe in god and my personal belief are nobody's
fucking business"? Why do American politicians ALWAYS have to mention
god or something religious whenever they open their mouths?!?
That's something you never hear from a politician in Europe. State and
religion are two distincts things. As it should be...
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Nov 2006 09:36:22 PM |
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On 7 Nov 2006 10:47:31 -0800, "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Williams schrieb:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Perry was among some 60 mostly Republican candidates for Tuesday's
midterm election attending a Sunday service at San Antonio's
Cornerstone Church, where pastor John Hagee said in his sermon
non-Christians were "going straight to hell with a non-stop ticket,"
The Dallas Morning News reported.
Afterward, Perry told reporters there was nothing in the sermon he
could disagree with, prompting quick condemnations from opponents.
"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does he?" said
independent candidate Kinky Friedman. "Being obsessed with who's going
to heaven and who's going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time."
Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more cautious
in his remarks.
"God is the only one who can make the decision as to who gets into the
kingdom of heaven," Bell said.
Why has the USA become a religious country no different than the very
same coutries they are fighting against? When will a politician stand
up and say "I don't believe in god and my personal belief are nobody's
fucking business"? Why do American politicians ALWAYS have to mention
god or something religious whenever they open their mouths?!?
That's something you never hear from a politician in Europe. State and
religion are two distincts things. As it should be...
The moronic fundies were shipped off to the colonies where they had a
whole continent to fill. And they did. Sanity is uncommon.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Nov 2006 01:59:07 PM |
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On 7 Nov 2006 10:47:31 -0800, "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
Why has the USA become a religious country no different than the very
same coutries they are fighting against?
But we're not. We're Christian, they're terrorist - that's their
religion. All of "them" are terrorists. How do we know that? Well,
they're not Christians, are they?
When will a politician stand
up and say "I don't believe in god and my personal belief are nobody's
fucking business"?
After SHE becomes the first gay black president.
Why do American politicians ALWAYS have to mention
god or something religious whenever they open their mouths?!?
Why do McDonald's employees always talk about food? You talk to the
sucke^H^H^Hcustomers about what you're selling.
That's something you never hear from a politician in Europe. State and
religion are two distincts things. As it should be...
Even where there's a state religion. Except in the 52nd state of the
US.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
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| User: "Bo Raxo" |
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07 Nov 2006 05:41:24 PM |
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Parsifal wrote:
Why has the USA become a religious country no different than the very
same coutries they are fighting against?
For starters, technically we're not fighting against any country. Our
national security team is so incredibly incompetent, our soldiers are
dying in countries whose governments are friendly to us. We're
fighting against a small number of terrorists and a huge number of
insurgents who are unhappy about our invading, bombing, and occupying
their country.
But I assume you refer to the small number of Muslim extremists.
Here's a handy Boraxo guide to the vital differences between them and
the U.S.:
- Muslim fundamentalists fly in to rage if you make a cartoon about
their most important religious figure. American fundamentalists fly in
to a rage if you burn a flag.
- Muslim fundamentalists kill rape victims. American fundamentalists
kill the doctors who end the unwanted pregnancies of rape victims.
- Muslim fundamentalists severely discriminate against anyone born a
female. American fundamentalists severely discriminate against anyone
born a homosexual.
- Muslim fundamentalists selectively interpret certain passages in the
Koran, while ignoring others, to justify their cruel beliefs. American
fundamentalists selectively interpret certain passages in the Bible,
while ignoring others, to justify their cruel beliefs.
See, completely different!
In fairness, I haven't heard about any extremist mullahs getting caught
patronizing a prostitute or buying illegal recreational drugs, so
perhaps they have one up in that respect over the American version of
the Taliban.
Bo Raxo
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| User: "Bo Raxo" |
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06 Nov 2006 11:26:32 PM |
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Williams wrote:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Q: If you're living in Texas, and you go to hell, how would you tell
the difference?
A: The food would get better.
Bo Raxo
Note to Marvin: that one, I actually did make up myself.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Nov 2006 12:09:29 PM |
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On 6 Nov 2006 21:26:32 -0800, "Bo Raxo" <forensics@earthcorp.com>
wrote:
Williams wrote:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Q: If you're living in Texas, and you go to hell, how would you tell
the difference?
Which part of Texas?
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the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his
children smart.
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| User: "Rabid Spud" |
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07 Nov 2006 12:38:13 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On 6 Nov 2006 21:26:32 -0800, "Bo Raxo" <forensics@earthcorp.com>
wrote:
Q: If you're living in Texas, and you go to hell, how would you tell
the difference?
Which part of Texas?
The panhandle?
If Hell was a giant frying pan, the controls would have to be located
somewhere.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Nov 2006 01:24:12 PM |
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:38:13 GMT, "Rabid Spud" <anon@ibid.cop> wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On 6 Nov 2006 21:26:32 -0800, "Bo Raxo" <forensics@earthcorp.com>
wrote:
Q: If you're living in Texas, and you go to hell, how would you tell
the difference?
Which part of Texas?
The panhandle?
If Hell was a giant frying pan, the controls would have to be located
somewhere.
If hell existed, it WOULD probably be located somewhere in West Texas,
from what Texan friends have told me.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator."
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06 Nov 2006 10:44:17 PM |
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Williams wrote:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Perry was among some 60 mostly Republican candidates for Tuesday's
midterm election attending a Sunday service at San Antonio's
Cornerstone Church, where pastor John Hagee said in his sermon
non-Christians were "going straight to hell with a non-stop ticket,"
The Dallas Morning News reported.
Afterward, Perry told reporters there was nothing in the sermon he
could disagree with, prompting quick condemnations from opponents.
"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does he?" said
independent candidate Kinky Friedman. "Being obsessed with who's going
to heaven and who's going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time."
Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more cautious
in his remarks.
"God is the only one who can make the decision as to who gets into the
kingdom of heaven," Bell said.
How about someone here giving the accepted Southern Baptist take on
Pastor Hagee's and Governor Perry's verdict for non-Christians. Are
they going straight to hell?
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06 Nov 2006 10:58:49 PM |
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Cazador wrote:
Williams wrote:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Perry was among some 60 mostly Republican candidates for Tuesday's
midterm election attending a Sunday service at San Antonio's
Cornerstone Church, where pastor John Hagee said in his sermon
non-Christians were "going straight to hell with a non-stop ticket,"
The Dallas Morning News reported.
Afterward, Perry told reporters there was nothing in the sermon he
could disagree with, prompting quick condemnations from opponents.
"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does he?" said
independent candidate Kinky Friedman. "Being obsessed with who's going
to heaven and who's going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time."
Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more cautious
in his remarks.
"God is the only one who can make the decision as to who gets into the
kingdom of heaven," Bell said.
How about someone here giving the accepted Southern Baptist take on
Pastor Hagee's and Governor Perry's verdict for non-Christians. Are
they going straight to hell?
I used to be a Southern Baptist. To a SB, *everyone* not in the room at
the moment is goin' to hell. We's all goin' ta hebbin together, and
they's all goin' ta hay-ell.
Didja hear the one about the SoBap marooned on a desert island? When
the Navy rescued him, they were impressed about the structures he'd
built on the island. "What's that one?", asked one sailor. "That's my
house.", the SoBap said. "Nice work!", the sailor said. "How about the
second one?" "Oh, that's my church!", the SoBap said. The sailor gave
him a funny look. "Ooo-kay...whatever. Hey, how about that third one?
What's that one for?"
"That's where I *used* to go to church-but I wouldn't be caught dead in
*there* anymore."
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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06 Nov 2006 10:52:07 PM |
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Williams wrote:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-111357-9560r
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed
SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism
from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned
to spend eternity in hell.
Hey, whatever. As long as I don't have to spend it with idiot
Christians....
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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