"Rod" <icom706@att.net> wrote in message

Pastor Dave spoke:

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:41:35 -0600, Nancy Rudins
<nrudins@ncsa.uiuc.edu> said the following:

He came in, pretending to be someone else and a new
Bible student, who didn't know Vera.

Nancy, Di is the one that referred to me as a new bible student. I'm
a student that did not take it seriously and wasn't fully converted
to Christianity. I met vera a few months back in another group,
and I don't know her well, and I didn't know her well when I came
back into this group. I had visited previously as I had othert groups
and don't remember posting anything essential.


NO I did not. That is a lie. YOU said you were a new Christian that Vera had
led you to the Lord I never mentioned you being a new Bible student.

I have to say that I have never been so horrified in my
life as to see outright brazen lies published as they are
in here by Dave. Dave has to be brain fried to demonstrate
such outright definace to the Word of God, still knowing
what will happen to him in the end, unless he is actually
an atheist posing as a preterist. That would explain much.

He is the boldest male liar here in ACC.

Now, what I've said above isn't very flattering to Dave, but please
understand it
as the truth, and many times when a person is in opposition to Gods
natural order
the truth is going to cut them deeply.

That is right - it is the truth, and you have understated it a little to
Dave's favour, I would say. If I had explained it, he would not have got
away with it so well.

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:38:55 GMT, "Rod" <icom706@att.net>
said the following:


<Insert: Rod tried to strip this down to just alt.bible
and I am merely adding back in the groups he stripped.>


Nancy, this is also in the original thread, which actually
wasn't even the original thread, but was a perversion of
the thread I started (and yet, Rod claims to be an angel).

I wish to apologize to you Nancy, for using a couple
(just a couple, really) of cuss words down below,
but I felt that a wake up call to Rod was appropriate.

But anyway, since he responded to my post, but sent it
to you (you'll see what I mean below), I felt that it was
appropriate to start this thread ad make sure that you
saw it, dear (I am using the word "dear" affectionately
and not in a demeaning way, so please don't take it
in a sexist manner).

Pastor Dave spoke:

Rod is an *****, who is ***** because I exposed him!

He came in, pretending to be someone else and a new
Bible student, who didn't know Vera.

Nancy, Di is the one that referred to me as a new
bible student.

No Rod, YOU DID!!!

I'm a student that did not take it seriously
and wasn't fully converted to Christianity.

Which was your newest claim, after being exposed by me!

I met Vera a few months back in another group

Which was your NEW claim, AFTER I exposed you as
a LIAR, when YOU said that you DID NOT KNOW HER!!!

and I don't know her well

Your LATEST claim, which was simply CHANGED from
your previous claim THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW HER!!!

He was exposed and when that happened,
his foul mouth let loose!

This is a lie, Nancy.

No, it is the truth and you damn well know it!

It can be easily seen thru my posting history

You mean when, after being caught cussing at me
many messages in a row, you THEN tried to calm
your language down, trying to control your anger
at me for exposing you and tried to pretend to be
an angel, even though you were dumb enough to
quote yourself cussing at me while denying cussing
at me! DUH!!!

Bottom line: By "posting history", you mean the
messages that you will custom select to show Nancy,
that you posted after being exposed for your cussing,
which you did after criticizing me for cussing at you,
which I did in response to your insults toward me!
And you started cussing, after I exposed you for lying
about who you were

in this group

Note that you say, "in this group" and let us also note
that YOU JUST INTENTIONALLY STRIPPED OUT THE
OTHER GROUPS WHEN YOU RESPONDED JUST NOW,
because you knew that if you said that and left the other
groups intact in the header, that you would be lying!

So what does Roddy boy do??? Well, very simple!!!

Roddy boy strips out the rest of the groups from the
header, so that when he says it, he figures that since
he didn't write a post to JUST ALT.BIBLE, that he
could APPEAR to be honest, hoping that I would
respond and call him a liar, so then he could play
his little game about which group it happened in!

But what is the actual truth, Roddy boy? Simple!

The name of the thread I started, which further
exposed you, was changed to the title that we now
see above!

AND EVEN THOUGH I STILL RESPONDED AND IT WAS
THE FOLLOWING GROUPS THAT WERE IN THE HEADER
OF MY RESPONSE:

alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic,alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,aus.religion.christian

...RODDY BOY JUST RESPONDED TO THAT VERY MESSAGE
THAT I WROTE (WHICH IS OBVIOUS) AND INTENTIONALLY
STRIPPED THE OTHER GROUPS OUT OF THE HEADER, SO
THAT HE COULD MAKE HIS "I DIDN'T CUSS IN *_THIS_*
GROUP" CLAIM!!!

You are a damned liar and a word manipulator, Roddy boy!

And yet, you think you can come in here and play the angel?!

Why after being bagged each and every time you lie about me,
do you keep thinking that your stupid attempts to set me up
will work?!?

I'll tell you why... Y-O-U-R D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N to try
to get out of being caught! <chuckle!>

And here's the kicker, Rod (see below also)...

Your messages that you cussed in originally, had alt.bible
in the header and therefore, they DID still appear in
alt.bible and that means that even though you tried
to wrangle your way around it, YES, YOU DID still
cuss in alt.bible!!! Bagged, Roddy!!! Bawahahahaha!!!

that the only time I said vulgarity was when I was
using Daves quotes to provide evidence that he was
indeed being vulgar, to have proof to reference.

That's a lie! But here you are, trying to limit it to THIS
GROUP ONLY, so that you can demand that I quote
where you sent a post with cuss words to THIS GROUP
ONLY! But you know what, Roddy boy? You're still bagged!

And do you know why, stupid? Simple! Because...

Even though you limited this post to this one group,
the fact is, that the other posts that you sent with
cuss words, had this group in the header and so,
those cuss words DID appear IN THIS GROUP!
And therefore, your weak ***** attempt to try to
dodge the bullet didn't work anyway, moron!

And besides this, the fact is, I NEVER DENIED CUSSING!!!
And yet, here you are, PRETENDING by implication that
I did, since according to your lie typed above, you had to
"prove it"!

You see, UNLIKE YOU, Roddy boy, I don't lie and so,
I am as stupid as you! And what do I mean by that?
Simple! UNLIKE YOU, I do NOT quote myself doing
what someone said I did, while I try to deny doing it
in that response! DUH!!! Bawahahaha!!!

I have to say that I have never been so horrified in my
life as to see outright brazen lies published as they are
n here by Dave.

And here is Roddy boy, once again, trying to play the angel!

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

And this, after just being bagged lying above and even
after you have repeatedly lied to me and about me!

Now prove I lied, Roddy boy! And no, you repeating
your claim that I lied and just claiming that this response
is a lie, does not prove that it's a lie! Hello?! McFly?!

Yet he thinks that by just saying it didn't happen,
that makes him an angel, even when he is stupid
enough to quote his own foul language in the
message that he is denying using it in!

I explained this above Nancy.

You explained what a bad liar you are!

How can you possibly explain away denying what
you did, while quoting yourself doing it in a number
of posts, in various threads?!

Rod is not a very bright person! :)

Dave is a guy that uses personal attacks

I stated a fact! When you do as I described above,
which you DID DO, EVEN AFTER I kept telling you
about it, then no son, you cannot be very bright!!!

And now let us be honest here, which is something
that YOU know NOTHING about!

The fact is, that I was VERY POLITE to you when you
first came in here, playing your game, even though I
did know who you were and that you were trying to
set me up, pretending not only to be interested in
the Preterist doctrine, but also pretending to be
sympathetic to it AND EVEN TO AGREE WITH IT!!!

And you did this REPEATEDLY!!! You were trying to
set me up and when it didn't work and I finally decided
it was time to expose you, you went ballistic, Roddy!!!

I was intentionally polite to you, making sure to be,
so that when I did expose you, you wouldn't have
any excuses! And then, after exposing you and you
started cussing at me and started digging up old posts,
which proves you weren't new to these groups at all,
I cussed back at you a bit, not out of anger, but just
to let YOU THINK that you had gotten under my skin
with your first few vulgar responses, just to see what
you would say and lo and behold, Roddy boy went
apeshit!!! And then, when I pointed out this as well,
which was funny to watch (I'm sorry, but I consider
it funny to watch evil box itself in), you then immediately
tried to act like an angel and deny doing what you did,
in the very same thread and even while quoting yourself
doing it! D-U-U-H-H-H-H-H-H-H !!!!!!! <CHUCKLE!>

I let you set yourself up and I must give you creds, son,
'cause you did a damned good job of it! :)

But the bottom line is, that you tried to fool me into
thinking that you were new to usenet and that you
were a new Bible student and that you didn't know
Vera. But when I exposed you, THE VERY NEXT
MESSAGE *_FROM_* *_YOU_* was full of cussing!!!

Now who do you think looks like the sinner here?
You know who (even though I do admit that my
language is wrong (cuss words), but with you,
I just do it to watch you keep flipping between
"cussing posts" and "pretending to be an angel" posts,
because it's fun to watch evil contradict itself in the
same damned post! Hahaha!!!

In the short time I have been here, Dave has proven
to me that he will not hesitate at lying to anyone
about anyone

Once again, I call you a ***** liar! I have demanded
repeatedly that you prove this claim that I have lied,
EVEN ONCE! And the only thing you EVER said in response
to this demand from me, was to claim that what I just typed
was a lie and that's IT Rod! You know damned well that
you're lying about me being a liar and you know that when
someone demands proof of something, that just repeating
your claim that I lied, is not proof that I lied, you *****!

So as I said before, it's time to put up or shut up!
Were have a I lied, EVEN ONCE, EVER, ROD?!?

Provides my words quoted and then *_P-R-O-V-E_*
that it *_I-S_* a lie!!!

Look at the title, ***** wipe! Here you are, claiming that
"This is the flattest lie by Pastor Dave" and yet, you
offered ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PROVE that
anything I have ever said, is a lie! And that makes YOU
the liar, Roddy BOY!