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The 1000 yrs and beyond |
Part 1
Jer 25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end
of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be
lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the
ground.
SATAN IN CHAINS
How would you like to be seated before a gigantic stage about 2,000
feet wide and actually watch the play-out of human history before your
eyes? There you could see the final destiny of every man, woman, and
child who has ever lived in this world. God, indeed, gives us such a
panoramic preview in one of the most dramatic prophecies in the Bible.
Some people have harbored the dream that society will eventually
correct itself and will develop into a golden age of millennial peace.
In this grand Utopia everyone is supposed to be converted and will
cooperate in building a new world of brotherhood and peace. I wish
this could be a true picture of the future, but it is exactly the
opposite of what the Bible portrays. Jesus said, "As it was in the
days of Noe (Noah), so shall it be also in the days of the Son of
man." Luke 17:26. Paul said, "Evil men and seducers shall wax worse
and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." 2 Timothy 3:13. No, this
dream of a temporal millennium is just a vast delusion, and we are not
interested in dreams or fancies. We want to know the facts about the
future and what will happen to every person who has been a part of
this earthly scene. So we turn to the Bible subject of the millennium.
Most people know that the word "millennium" is not even found in the
Bible at all. It is taken from two Latin words: "milli," meaning a
thousand, and "annum," meaning a year. But even though the word is not
mentioned in the Scriptures there are references to a thousand-year
period of time. Invariably, they are clustered around the doctrine of
the resurrection from the dead.
TWO RESURRECTIONS
Jesus taught that there will be two general resurrections: "Marvel not
at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the
graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done
good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil,
unto the resurrection of damnation." John 5:28, 29.
Before giving further specific proof on this point, we must note that
Christ referred to the resurrection of life and the resurrection of
damnation. This seems to indicate that the saved and lost do not arise
at the same time. Two separate resurrections are described. The book
of Revelation confirms this fact. John wrote, "Blessed and holy is he
that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death
hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and
shall reign with Him a thousand years." Revelation 20:6.
The use of the term "first resurrection" is proof that there must be
more than one. If I say, "This is the first house I built," you know
that I had to build at least one other.
Two points are established in this text. First, only the good people
will have any part in the first resurrection. It plainly says,
"Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection."
Second, we learn that the resurrection of those saints is the
beginning point of the millennium, because after being raised they
"shall reign with him a thousand years." According to this verse, none
of the wicked will have any part in the first resurrection. This is
also established by verses 4 and 5 which describe the resurrection of
those "which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither
had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and
they lived (came to live) and reigned with Christ a thousand years. .
.. . This is the first resurrection."
This leaves no doubt about the class who will be included in the first
resurrection. It is only for those who remained faithful to Christ.
But in the midst of that text we find a very significant,
parenthetical sentence: "But the rest of the dead lived not again
until the thousand years were finished." Verse 5.
Obviously, the "rest of the dead" can only be in reference to the
wicked. They will come forth from their graves at the end of the
millennium - when "the thousand years were finished."
Now we have a clear picture before us of two resurrections separated
by a thousand years. The good people are raised at the beginning of
the millennium, and the wicked are resurrected at the end.
CHRIST'S COMING INTRODUCES THE MILLENIUM
Can we now find from the Scriptures when this first resurrection takes
place, which introduces the millennium? Yes. Paul declares that it
happens at the coming of Christ. "For the Lord himself shall descend
from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with
the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first." 1
Thessalonians 4:16.
Here are the saints being raised "first" - in the first resurrection.
And it takes place amidst the glory and grandeur of the second coming
of Jesus. This marks the beginning of the millennium.
When Jesus comes there will be only four groups of people for Him to
deal with: the righteous dead, the righteous living, the wicked dead,
and the wicked living. All who have ever been born will fall into one
of those categories. The Bible gives a fascinating picture of what
happens to each of these classes when Christ returns in His glory.
First, the righteous dead are described as rising first to meet the
Lord. Then Paul continues with these words: "Then we which are alive
and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to
meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1
Thessalonians 4:17.
Picture that scene of transcendent joy and rapture. The saints are
raised from their dusty beds and changed into glorious immortality. At
the same moment, the righteous living are translated and are given
immortal bodies just like the resurrected ones. Paul writes: "Behold,
I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be
changed. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised
incorruptible . . . and this mortal must put on immortality." 1
Corinthians 15:51-53.
Possessing those new bodies that will never suffer pain or die, all
the saved ones will be caught up to meet Jesus in the air. His feet
will not touch the earth at that time. He has come to honor the
promise made to His people just before leaving this earth: "In my
Father's house are many mansions . . . I go to prepare a place for
you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." John
14:2, 3.
WITH CHRIST A THOUSAND YEARS
Where will Christ take those redeemed ones who meet Him in the clouds?
To the mansions of His Father where He has prepared a place for us.
Can there be any doubt as to where He ascended after leaving this
earth? Peter had been curious and actually questioned the Master about
those mansions and that place. Jesus was answering Peter's question in
John 14:1-3. Go back three verses into the previous chapter: "Simon
Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him,
Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me
afterwards." John 13:36.
Here is interesting proof that Peter will someday go to the place
where Jesus was about to go. And where was that? Jesus said, "I go to
prepare a place for you." Did He not ascend to His Father's house, in
the heavens, where the mansions were? Christ told Peter that he could
not follow Him then, but that someday he would follow Him where He was
going.
There are those who say that no one from this earth will ever go to
heaven, but this would be contradicting the words of Jesus. It would
also be contrary to John's description in Revelation 19:1: "And after
these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying,
Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord
our God."
John's vision of the future places the saints in heaven. That is where
Jesus promised to take them - to His Father's house and the place He
had prepared. This will not be the permanent home of the saved, but it
is surely the place where Christ takes them to spend a thousand years
with Him.
Now, let us find out what happens to all the wicked when Christ
returns. We have already established that the wicked dead do not live
again "until the thousand years are finished." They simply remain in
their graves during the millennium. No change takes place for them
until a thousand years later.
But what about the wicked who will live until Christ's return? How are
they affected? Paul answers: "And to you who are troubled rest with
us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty
angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be
punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord,
and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in
his saints." 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10.
Notice what happens to sinners at the same time the saints are
glorified. Sin cannot exist in His presence and the wicked are
destroyed by His glory. "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom
the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy
with the brightness of his coming." 2 Thessalonians 2:8.
John describes the desperate attempts of the wicked to escape from
Christ's presence when He returns. They will hide in the dens and
rocks of the mountains, and pray, "Fall on us, and hide us from the
face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the
Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to
stand?" Revelation 6:16, 17.
The sinners will be cut down by the bright glory of God as though a
thousand volts of electricity had fallen upon them. Jesus spoke of
that moment in these words: "For as the lightning cometh out of the
east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the
Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is there will the eagles be
gathered together." Matthew 24:27, 28. Christ indicated that the
bodies of the wicked dead will be scattered as a result of the blazing
glory of His return.
John described the wicked who survived the battle of Armageddon. "And
the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled
with their flesh." Revelation 19:21. His words parallel those of
Jesus. The bodies of the lost will be food for vultures, immediately
upon the appearance of Christ in the heavens.
Now we are prepared to answer a question that has puzzled many people.
Can anyone repent and be saved after the coming of Jesus? Absolutely
not. The Bible is very explicit on this point. John records the actual
words of a mighty decree which Christ declares just before His return
to this earth. "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he
which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous,
let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy
still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give
every man according as his work shall be." Revelation 22:11, 12.
This indicates that every case has been settled for eternity.
Probation is ended. Christ lays aside His priestly robes and leaves
the heavenly sanctuary where He has been interceding as our great High
Priest. Now He returns as King of kings to execute judgment. There can
be no more opportunity to repent. All will remain as they have been
found in the books of heaven. In fact, who could repent and be saved
during the millennium? The righteous are already immortalized in
heaven, and the wicked are all dead. It would be just as logical to
think of someone rising up in the casket and repenting, as to think of
anyone turning to God after Jesus comes.
Jeremiah beheld this earth in vision following the return of Christ.
He described it thus: "The slain of the Lord shall be at that day from
one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall
not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon
the ground." Jeremiah 25:33. Of course, they won't be gathered. Nobody
is here to do it. No one can weep for them, because the earth is
entirely emptied of all its inhabitants. The dead bodies of the wicked
will be scattered all over the earth, in the same places where they
were cut down by the glory of God's presence.
THE EARTH IN RUINS
The earth itself will be a shambles during the thousand years, as a
result of the devastating earthquake which attends the coming of
Christ. "And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and
there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the
earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great . . . And every island
fled away, and the mountains were not found." Revelation 16:18, 20.
The physical results of this convulsive earthquake are alluded to by
both Isaiah and Jeremiah. "Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty,
and maketh it waste. . . . The land shall be utterly emptied, and
utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word. . . . The earth
is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is
moved exceedingly." Isaiah 24:1, 3, 19.
The shocks and the after-shocks of that earthquake will spread
desolation to every corner of the earth. Inhabited islands will
disappear into the sea; great mountain chains will disintegrate and
vanish. Jeremiah wrote: "I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without
form and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld the
mountains, and lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I
beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens
were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and
all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord
and by his fierce anger." Jeremiah 4:23-26.
At the coming of Jesus every work of man will be humbled to the dust.
Skyscrapers are leveled to the ground, the sky darkens, and even the
birds disappear. The righteous are removed from the earth and all the
wicked are slain. No wonder the Bible says that it is a fearful thing
to fall into the hands of the living God. To be unprepared in that day
is the greatest tragedy to be imagined.
To be continued...
Source: Satan in Chains - www.amazingfacts.com
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12 Nov 2004 07:28:50 AM |
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Part 2:
SATAN BOUND
Now, the question arises, "Where is Satan during all this great
manifestation?" Going back to Revelation 20:1-3 we read about the
Devil during the millennium: "And I saw an angel come down from
heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his
hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the
Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into
the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he
should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be
fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season." What an
amazing scene! The Devil is bound for that thousand years and cast
into the bottomless pit.
Fortunately, we do not have to speculate about the location of that
bottomless pit. The Bible makes it very clear. The original Greek word
for "bottomless pit" is "abussos," from which we get our English word
"abyss," meaning "a deep place." That same word is used again in the
Greek version of Genesis 1:2: "And the earth was without form, and
void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep." The word "deep"
here is the Greek word "abussos" which is translated as "bottomless
pit" in Revelation 20:1. In other words, this earth was called the
"abussos" after God formed it; before He called order and design out
of it. Lying in disorganized darkness it was referred to as the
bottomless pit.
During the millennium this planet will revert to a similar state of
desolation and chaos. Jeremiah describes it in the very same words,
"without form and void." Again, it is designated by the prophet John
as the "abussos," or "bottomless pit." Satan will be confined right
here on this torn-up, destroyed world for a thousand years while the
saints are in heaven.
Someone may ask, "But what about the chain?" Just remember that Satan
is a fallen angel, and spiritual beings cannot be bound with literal
chains. The Bible speaks about the evil angels being bound with chains
of darkness. The purpose of the binding is "that he should deceive the
nations no more till the thousand years should be fulfilled." The only
possible way to accomplish this is to take Satan away from all the
people, or take the people away from him. Even putting him into a
deep, literal pit would not prevent him from deceiving the people,
because he has millions of imps to carry on his work.
The fact is that the Devil is bound by circumstances which forbid him
access to any human being during the thousand years. Recently, a man
told me that Satan is already bound and has been ever since 1914. That
struck me as one of the most incredible of all statements. Surely if
he is bound today, somebody is doing his work for him. And if the
world is in this shape without his evil scheming, we had better pray
that he doesn't get loose, or we really are in for trouble. If he is
bound now, it would have to be with a rubber chain that stretches from
New York to Moscow and all around the circle of the earth.
No, he is not bound today, but he will be while this earth is in
confused disorder. Unable to deceive a single soul, he will inhabit
this desolate planet for a thousand years contemplating the havoc his
program has produced. The righteous are in heaven, the wicked are all
dead, and he has no one to work on till the end of the millennium.
I have tried to think about the Devil during this period. What is he
going to do? The earth is covered with darkness, dead bodies are
everywhere, and all is absolute confusion. For six thousand years
Satan has been plenty busy. He has followed folk around trying to
devise their destruction. His chief employment for centuries has been
to accuse, mislead and destroy. Suddenly, though, he has nothing to
do. They are all taken away, and he is left with his own thoughts.
What will the Devil do? That will be the most miserable punishment
that Satan will have to suffer. Forced to live with himself for a
thousand years! No one to deceive at all; just thinking, thinking,
thinking.
I am sure he will think about the past and remember all the terrible
deeds of darkness he has committed. He will think about the future and
the prophecies of God concerning his own destiny. Listen, the Devil is
a good Bible student. Do not fool yourself. Give him credit where it
is due. He knows the Bible better than you do. Oh yes, holy men of God
wrote as they were moved by the Holy Ghost, but the Devil was looking
over their shoulder and memorizing every bit of it. The Devil knows
better than we do that every word of the Bible is true. He knows that
everything about heaven is true, because he used to live there. He
knows that it is just as beautiful and wonderful as the Bible
describes it, but he doesn't want anybody else to believe that. So, he
is desperately working to keep people from studying this Book and to
keep people off their knees.
If people can once understand what the Bible teaches about the great
plan of salvation, Satan knows that his power will be destroyed at
that very moment. So, I picture him as thinking of these things and
looking ahead to the future, knowing that his utter destruction has
already been determined. The Bible itself declares that he will be
burned and brought to ashes.
I suppose, also, that he will think about many of the people he
tempted while the earth was still standing. Perhaps his thoughts will
go back to the poor alcoholic who was struggling to be free. Time
after time he crawled out of the gutter, determined never to take
another drink. But Satan waylaid the man with constant harassment and
temptation, and down he would go into the gutter again. Finally, the
desperate alcoholic dared to lay hold of Jesus Christ as his Lord and
Saviour, and he was delivered from Satan's power. Now Satan knows that
the man is forever beyond his influence, and he will never be able to
assail him again.
Yes, I picture the Devil wandering over this depopulated planet and
stumbling over the decaying bodies of those who were slain by the
glory of God. And perhaps one of those bodies will attract Satan's
special attention because he recognizes and remembers the man. He was
a good, moral man with a fine family. Everybody liked him. He was
honest and paid his debts. People were attracted to him. He was a good
neighbor and a good citizen. There were times when the man was drawn
to make a decision to follow the Lord all the way. His wife pleaded
with him to do so, and his little girls prayed for him every night.
Only one thing really stood in his way, but somehow he could not
surrender his will fully to the will of Christ. It was always in his
mind to do so someday, but the Devil kept supplying him with excuses
for waiting. Then suddenly, unexpectedly, the clouds rolled back like
a curtain and Christ returned. The man was not prepared. He was cut
down with all the others who were living for self.
Now Satan looks upon the tortured features of the dead man, and a
hideous grin spreads over his face. His strategy was successful, and
this man, at least, will never have another opportunity to be saved.
He is lost forever.
Oh, the utter folly of failing to decide for Christ while the moments
of probation linger! Some are toying with sin and trifling with the
convictions of God's Holy Spirit. You may be a church member and a
professed Christian, but if there is one cherished sin in your life
right now, you are playing games with God. Confess and forsake that
sin without another moment of delay. Could our eyes be opened for one
second to the awful consequences of sin, no one would dare hesitate to
follow Jesus all the way.
DRAMATIC CLOSE OF THE MILLENIUM
Now we come to the closing events of the millennium. What dramatic
developments will mark the end of the thousand years? "And when the
thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison."
Revelation 20:7.
This loosing of Satan is easy to understand when we read verse 5
again, "The rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years
were finished." All the lost of the ages will be raised out of their
graves at the end of the millennium. This is what releases the Devil
to begin his work of deception once more.
Perhaps you are wondering how he could further deceive those who have
already passed the point of redemption. Here is the way John answers
that question: "And (he) shall go out to deceive the nations which are
in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them
together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And
they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of
the saints about, and the beloved city; and fire came down from God
out of heaven, and devoured them." Revelation 20:8, 9.
Several important things are brought to view in these verses. After
the wicked are resurrected at the end of the millennium, Satan leads
them in an attack against the New Jerusalem. He deceives them into
thinking they can actually capture the dwelling place of God and the
immortalized saints. That Holy City descends from heaven, following
the thousand years. "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem,
coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for
her husband." Revelation 21:2.
This is the event described by the prophets of old, when the saints
will return to this earth from Paradise. According to Zechariah,
Christ's feet will touch the earth, and some spectacular things take
place. "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,
which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall
cleave in the midst thereof toward the north, and half of it toward
the south . . . and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints
with thee." Zechariah 14:4, 5.
Please notice that Jesus will make contact with the earth when He
returns with the saints. When He came for the saints at the beginning
of the millennium, His feet did not touch the ground. All were caught
up to meet Him. But now as the great, heavenly space city approaches
this planet, the Mount of Olives splits under the touch of the Son of
God. A mighty plain is created for a landing spot, and the New
Jerusalem settles to earth.
RESURRECTION OF THE WICKED
At the same time that the City descends the wicked are raised, and
this releases Satan to deceive them into attacking. Again he has
someone to work on. I have tried to imagine how the great deceiver
will address that host of lost souls. Perhaps he will even claim that
they were resurrected by his power. Charging God with unjustly
throwing him out of the city, he now urges the army of the wicked to
help him reclaim his former position. No doubt he will make flattering
offers of honor and power to those who excel in the battle.
I suppose that Napoleon, Alexander, Sennacherib, Hitler, and Stalin
will be there. Oh, I am not sure, of course; I am just using these as
examples. Maybe some of these repented before death, but there will be
plenty of great generals and military leaders in the ranks of Satan's
army as he goes up against God. Many of those men died with curses on
their lips; and now, when they are resurrected, they are still
cursing, and they are still in the frame of mind to fight. It won't be
hard for Satan to get them in line as they march against the City of
God.
Sometimes people ask me, "How long will they fight? How long will it
take them to get ready for that battle?" I do not know, because the
Bible is silent here. I am certain, though, that the Devil will not
try to win by just throwing rocks at the Holy City. He will surely
devise some terrible, devastating weapons to use. He has a mighty,
ingenious mind when it comes to preparing instruments of war. No doubt
there will be atomic weapons involved. They will set a D-Day. There
could be a countdown at which time they plan to blast away at the Holy
City. From all earthly viewpoints, it seems that the saints are
doomed. The explosive, destructive weapons will be able to shatter the
walls into smithereens. But then, suddenly, God intervenes. He turns
His own fiery power loose upon that assembled army of the wicked. Read
it in verse 9 of Revelation 20: "And they went up on the breadth of
the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved
city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."
And that is the end of the wicked. There it is. Right here on this
earth the fire of God descends. The wicked people are burned up as
they launch a final, desperate attack against God. This is the hell
fire of the Bible.
THE TRANSPARENT WALL OF SEPARATION
Listen, one of the saddest pictures of all, I believe, is revealed in
Revelation 21:11. In describing the Holy City it says: "Having the
glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even
like a jasper stone, clear as crystal." The walls of that City will be
like glass. The wicked will be able to look right through and see
everything on the inside of that City. Have you ever thought of some
of the sad meetings that will take place by those walls of the New
Jerusalem? Talk about the famous wall of China or the Wailing Wall in
Jerusalem! But this wall is going to reveal some of the most
heart-rending scenes that have ever taken place on this earth.
I picture the resurrection of that man who had such a wonderful
family, and who almost made his decision for Christ - the one who
intended to do it later. As he comes forth in the second resurrection,
he looks around for his wife and two little girls. Nothing but open,
empty graves meet his vision, and his ears are assailed by the cries
and curses of the lost. He is swept up in the maelstrom of frenzied
preparation for the battle.
As he approaches the gleaming, transparent walls, he is overwhelmed by
the splendor of the scene. Far in the distance he sees the outshining
of the glorious rainbow surrounding the throne of God. The River of
Life flows forth from the throne, and great branches of the Tree of
Life arch over the river, bearing their magnificent fruit of
immortality. The man is transfixed by the beauty. Glorious, radiant
angels move around inside the City. He gazes at the streets of purest
gold and the indescribable mansions on every side. As he stands,
spellbound, he thinks, "What a fool I was to lose all of this."
Then, I picture this man as his eyes try to encompass all the grandeur
of the landscape. Moving figures inside begin to come into clearer
focus. Suddenly, his heart skips a beat, as he catches a glimpse of
some familiar forms on the other side of the wall. His eyes light up
with recognition of his wife and children as they draw nearer. The man
waves and beckons. He cries out to catch their attention but the words
bounce back as an empty echo from the shining walls.
Then, and only then, will the true horror of his situation be
realized. A flood of memories will fill his mind. He remembers so
vividly the prayers of his little girls for their daddy to be saved.
He lives over again the tender convictions that brought tears to his
eyes, the struggle with conscience, and the decision to wait. The
words of his wife now return to torment him. "Honey, why don't you
surrender to Jesus? Don't worry about your job. I will work, and we
will get along. The Lord will provide. I love you so much, and Jesus
loves you." He had fought the stubborn rebellion but slowly yielded to
the practical demands of his job and his carnal friends. Now he would
give anything in the world to return to that moment. If only he could
take his little girls in his arms again, and kiss his dear wife,
assuring them that their prayers have been answered.
Oh, the remorse of that moment! The man stretches out his arms and
cries out, "Please pray for me once more!" But it is too late, and
before the jasper-clear wall, I can see that father and husband fall
on the ground, screaming and pleading for one more chance that can
never be granted. Surely this will be the greatest punishment for
those who finally realize what it means to be lost.
"WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN?"
Oh, how I wish I could paint this picture so graphically concerning
surrender and its importance that every person would settle it with
God before going to bed tonight. We must know that we have given
ourselves completely to the Lord Jesus Christ. I know there are some
who would rather hear you say, "Let's not get fanatical, let's not do
anything extreme. Let's just wait, and things will take care of
themselves." The very same people who say that now will some day be
crying out on the other side of the wall of the New Jerusalem and
saying: "Oh, why didn't someone tell me? Why didn't somebody make me
do it when I had the opportunity?"
I am amazed at the way people are influenced by their friends - by the
words of those who are very well-meaning. What comfort will those
words be when the friends are also on the outside of the wall looking
in? Sometimes people are held back by possessions, or jobs, or bank
accounts; but what comfort will it be to have a great, heaping pile of
earthly treasure and still be on the outside looking through the
walls? What about the religious leaders and teachers who have
comforted people by telling them not to worry about keeping the
commandments? The same religious teachers are also on the outside.
Every one of us should now be searching the Word of God in order to
know what to do. The Bible is the blueprint for salvation. The most
powerful, motivating forces in society today will soon be exposed as
less than worthless. Finally, men are going to throw their gold and
silver into the streets to the moles and the bats. At last, people
will have to give up those things that meant so much in this life. If
it is going to come to that finally - if men are going to throw them
away as Isaiah 2 describes it - why won't they throw them away now in
order to make their calling and election sure?
If you wait, refusing to make a decision to follow Christ all the way,
I can promise you one thing, someday you are going to know that the
still, small voice of the Spirit has made its final plea. The Bible
will be closed up forever on the pulpit, and the pews will be
completely emptied of all the people. Suddenly, every man, woman, and
child will be called to face God. The busy life of this world will
grind to a crashing halt. The jazz will suddenly be turned off, the
bright lights will go out into darkness forever, and the radio and TV
chips are going to melt together. No one will go about his or her
business, because God will suddenly intervene and call every man,
woman, and child to account. The world will be torn by the devastating
earthquake we read about in Revelation 16. The sea will be lashed to a
fury by the voice of the hurricane. The inhabited islands of this
earth will move, turn slightly, and drop out of sight. Great mountains
will twist and turn, and then be thrown out onto the plains
disintegrated by the mighty, volcanic action of the earth. Dark, angry
clouds will fill the sky, clashing against each other. The lightning
will reach out from those clouds to envelop this earth in a great
sheet of flame. Men, white as ghosts, will run to and fro, hither and
yon, seeking for some shelter; and they will find none. And then,
amidst the screams of terror, the great hailstones of God will come
crashing down with a sickening thud, making kindling wood out of all
the buildings and houses of this earth.
In the midst of all this, there will appear in the distant heavens a
tiny spot of glory that will draw nearer to the earth, getting larger
and larger. At first, very few will observe it, but then as it comes
closer, the dazzling light of it will attract every eye. Inhabitants
of every continent on earth will look up and behold the glory of Jesus
and all the angels. What a solemn moment it will be! For the first
time since the flood there will be no fun-making, no giddy laughter,
no levity. Every mouth will be closed, and a solemn, sober spirit will
fall upon every heart.
How cheap the dollar is going to look then. How ridiculous it will
seem that man allowed the mockery of some friend to hold him back from
making that decision. On every side voices will be heard crying out,
"Too late! Too late!" And those words will echo all around the earth,
while the redeemed look up and say, "Lo, this is our God. We have
waited for Him and He will save us."
So the story of this lost planet closes just exactly like it began.
After the fire has destroyed the wicked, and burned out all the curse
of sin, God will make it over again. This earth, delivered from all
the blighting effect of transgression, will be recreated into the
original paradise that God intended it to be. "Nevertheless we,
according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth,
wherein dwelleth righteousness." 2 Peter 3:13. Jesus said, "Blessed
are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth." Matthew 5:5. And so
they shall!
Source: Satan in Chains - www.amazingfacts.com
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| User: "alanm" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
12 Nov 2004 09:12:46 AM |
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"Cindy" <truth@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I have a conspiracy theory for you Cindy:
Do you think Der Krappalot was abducted by numerology aliens ?
He might have known too much.
LOL !
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| User: "Cindy" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
12 Nov 2004 09:39:55 AM |
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"alanm" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:Op4ld.33781$K7.18588@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:
: "Cindy" <truth@nospam.com> wrote in message
: news:cn2ec5$v7o@library2.airnews.net...
: >
:
: I have a conspiracy theory for you Cindy:
:
: Do you think Der Krappalot was abducted by numerology aliens ?
:
: He might have known too much.
:
: LOL !
:
Shame on you, you are like a veritable vessel of wrath.
What's wrong, missing a punching bag?
What is your purpose on this Newsgroup? Why are you here?
I have some advice, and a word of warning for you AlanM:
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
" Love one another as I have loved you"
Zec 7:9 Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Execute true
judgment, and shew mercy and compassions every man to his brother
Jam 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no
mercy..
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels
with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:And before
him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from
another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:And he shall
set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed
of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation
of the world"
"Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the
least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye
cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"
~ Cindy
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| User: "alanm" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
13 Nov 2004 08:09:43 AM |
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"Cindy" <cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
news:2vk4dfF2mvsprU1@uni-berlin.de...
"alanm" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:Op4ld.33781$K7.18588@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:
: "Cindy" <truth@nospam.com> wrote in message
: news:cn2ec5$v7o@library2.airnews.net...
: >
:
: I have a conspiracy theory for you Cindy:
:
: Do you think Der Krappalot was abducted by numerology aliens ?
:
: He might have known too much.
:
: LOL !
:
Shame on you, you are like a veritable vessel of wrath.
What's wrong, missing a punching bag?
Let me summarise. When Der Krappalot wishes people were dead that's OK with
you and he's "Crying out to God". When I make a joke about Der Krappalot I'm
a "vessel of wrath". What a bizarre way you have of balancing issues. I
tend to agree with Lamarr. You do come across as a whacko in some respects.
What is your purpose on this Newsgroup? Why are you here?
What are you here Cindy ? To push your whacko theories ?
I have another conspiracy theory for you: Do you think Susan Williams has
been abducted by demonology aliens ?
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| User: "Cindy" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
13 Nov 2004 09:12:12 AM |
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"alanm" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:HAold.35081$K7.1338@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:
: "Cindy" <cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
: news:2vk4dfF2mvsprU1@uni-berlin.de...
: >
: > "alanm" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
: > news:Op4ld.33781$K7.18588@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
: > :
: > : "Cindy" <truth@nospam.com> wrote in message
: > : news:cn2ec5$v7o@library2.airnews.net...
: > : >
: > :
: > : I have a conspiracy theory for you Cindy:
: > :
: > : Do you think Der Krappalot was abducted by numerology aliens ?
: > :
: > : He might have known too much.
: > :
: > : LOL !
: > :
: >
: > Shame on you, you are like a veritable vessel of wrath.
: >
: > What's wrong, missing a punching bag?
:
: Let me summarise.
This is not a summary of what you wrote, or why. You are attacking me
to divert from being accountable for yourself.
When Der Krappalot wishes people were dead that's OK with
: you and he's "Crying out to God".
What a sTrAnGe thing for you to notice, considering the only thing you
have ever defended on this Newsgroup has been Teresita in respect to
her profound disrespect for the lives of anyone who is not Catholic,
and you couldn't notice her telling us even after her very public
apologies that it was understandable that Rome wiped out her
non-Catholic neighbours and burnt them at the stake.
I have not ever said I agree with this, nor do I, and I have addressed
this subject myself, but I do understand he has been through alot of
pain in his life and where he gets this from as he has quoted the OT
scriptures he is going by. I will say at least he knows to put this in
God's hands, and trust he will take care of things. I have been on
this group alot of years now, and have seen Daryls growth, and know
that he is quick to acknowledge any error or wrong doing and has a
heart to learn. I do not believe that Daryl would ever physically harm
anyone, nor condone nor defend another doing so, and he has written
this himself many times in different ways. If other's took the time to
know him and talk to them they would understand this also. He is a
friend of mine, and yet when another posted in my name and was wrong
and in error he didn't hesitate to rebuke who he thought was me,and he
was right to do so, when you love someone you do not suffer sin to be
on them, or leave them in error.
:When I make a joke about Der Krappalot I'm
: a "vessel of wrath". What a bizarre way you have of balancing
issues. I
: tend to agree with Lamarr. You do come across as a whacko in some
respects.
I do not care about the opinion of someone who thinks "inborn rights"
come from the government not God, and who defends lying, follows the
"end justifies the means" principle of the jesuits, and claims he does
this only cause we see him doing it. Lamarr claims people have the
right to post about overthrowing our government and killing those who
worship God differently than they do, and can say nothing to them
about it, but then says we don't have a right to post that this is
wrong nor should we say this is being a terrorist, and has to wage
constant warfare against us because of it. That is my definition of a
Wacko.
I would be more worried if someone like this did not think I was a
wacko as well.
: >
: > What is your purpose on this Newsgroup? Why are you here?
: >
:
: What are you here Cindy ? To push your whacko theories ?
You didn't answer Alan, problem?
I am here because I am concerned about the lies and deceit being
promoted on this newsgroup,which is supposed to be Seventh-day
Adventist, but appears to be Babylon, I want others to be prepared for
the time of trouble coming and be ready for Jesus' return on a
personal level as well. Again- when you post nothing but personal
attacks, minus anything remotely connected with scripture or
Christian beliefs and the majority of your posts consist of only:
"ZZZZzzzzzz" or,
"Idiot" or,
"Dolt" or,
"Der krappolot"
And zero else, not even the content of the post you are replying to,
than I am glad you think I am different and I am posting Wacko
theories.
:
: I have another conspiracy theory for you: Do you think Susan
Williams has
: been abducted by demonology aliens ?
:
I think people have a life and other responsibilities outside this
Newsgroup.
And yes, I miss Susan too. Don't worry, Susan will be back. :-D
~ Cindy
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| User: "alanm" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
13 Nov 2004 10:15:53 AM |
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"Cindy" <truth@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:cn58o7$1bb@library2.airnews.net...
"alanm" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:HAold.35081$K7.1338@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:
: "Cindy" <cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
: news:2vk4dfF2mvsprU1@uni-berlin.de...
: >
: > "alanm" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
: > news:Op4ld.33781$K7.18588@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
: > :
: > : "Cindy" <truth@nospam.com> wrote in message
: > : news:cn2ec5$v7o@library2.airnews.net...
: > : >
: > :
: > : I have a conspiracy theory for you Cindy:
: > :
: > : Do you think Der Krappalot was abducted by numerology aliens ?
: > :
: > : He might have known too much.
: > :
: > : LOL !
: > :
: >
: > Shame on you, you are like a veritable vessel of wrath.
: >
: > What's wrong, missing a punching bag?
:
: Let me summarise.
This is not a summary of what you wrote, or why. You are attacking me
to divert from being accountable for yourself.
Make up whatever stories you like Cindy.
When Der Krappalot wishes people were dead that's OK with
: you and he's "Crying out to God".
What a sTrAnGe thing for you to notice, considering the only thing you
have ever defended on this Newsgroup has been Teresita in respect to
her profound disrespect for the lives of anyone who is not Catholic,
and you couldn't notice her telling us even after her very public
apologies that it was understandable that Rome wiped out her
non-Catholic neighbours and burnt them at the stake.
This is indicative of the game playing that goes on. It isn't a matter of
defending or attacking certain characters. It is a matter of truth. In
following the truth it may be necessary to attack. Complex isn't it ? I must
admit I didn't notice the last point you mentioned. So much crap goes on
here, it's not surprising. I notice what I notice.
I have not ever said I agree with this, nor do I, and I have addressed
this subject myself, but I do understand he has been through alot of
pain in his life and where he gets this from as he has quoted the OT
scriptures he is going by. I will say at least he knows to put this in
God's hands, and trust he will take care of things. I have been on
this group alot of years now, and have seen Daryls growth, and know
that he is quick to acknowledge any error or wrong doing and has a
heart to learn. I do not believe that Daryl would ever physically harm
anyone, nor condone nor defend another doing so, and he has written
this himself many times in different ways. If other's took the time to
know him and talk to them they would understand this also. He is a
friend of mine, and yet when another posted in my name and was wrong
and in error he didn't hesitate to rebuke who he thought was me,and he
was right to do so, when you love someone you do not suffer sin to be
on them, or leave them in error.
Daryl's growth ? What growth would that be Cindy ? From a numerology
crackpot to a bigger numerology crackpot ?
:When I make a joke about Der Krappalot I'm
: a "vessel of wrath". What a bizarre way you have of balancing
issues. I
: tend to agree with Lamarr. You do come across as a whacko in some
respects.
I do not care about the opinion of someone who thinks "inborn rights"
come from the government not God, and who defends lying, follows the
"end justifies the means" principle of the jesuits, and claims he does
this only cause we see him doing it. Lamarr claims people have the
right to post about overthrowing our government and killing those who
worship God differently than they do, and can say nothing to them
about it, but then says we don't have a right to post that this is
wrong nor should we say this is being a terrorist, and has to wage
constant warfare against us because of it. That is my definition of a
Wacko.
I would be more worried if someone like this did not think I was a
wacko as well.
: >
: > What is your purpose on this Newsgroup? Why are you here?
: >
:
: What are you here Cindy ? To push your whacko theories ?
You didn't answer Alan, problem?
No.
I am here because I am concerned about the lies and deceit being
promoted on this newsgroup,which is supposed to be Seventh-day
Adventist, but appears to be Babylon, I want others to be prepared for
the time of trouble coming and be ready for Jesus' return on a
personal level as well. Again- when you post nothing but personal
attacks, minus anything remotely connected with scripture or
Christian beliefs and the majority of your posts consist of only:
"ZZZZzzzzzz" or,
"Idiot" or,
"Dolt" or,
"Der krappolot"
It's "Der Krappalot" Cindy. Please focus and get it right.
And zero else, not even the content of the post you are replying to,
than I am glad you think I am different and I am posting Wacko
theories.
:
: I have another conspiracy theory for you: Do you think Susan
Williams has
: been abducted by demonology aliens ?
:
I think people have a life and other responsibilities outside this
Newsgroup.
And yes, I miss Susan too. Don't worry, Susan will be back. :-D
Missed like a hole in the head Cindy.
~ Cindy
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| User: "Teresita" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
13 Nov 2004 11:36:12 AM |
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In article <cn58o7$1bb@library2.airnews.net>, Cindy says...
What a sTrAnGe thing for you to notice, considering the only thing you
have ever defended on this Newsgroup has been Teresita in respect to
her profound disrespect for the lives of anyone who is not Catholic,
and you couldn't notice her telling us even after her very public
apologies that it was understandable that Rome wiped out her
non-Catholic neighbours and burnt them at the stake.
Cindy, post a link to a google search proving that I said it was understandable
that Rome wiped out her non-Catholic neighbors and burnt them at the stake AFTER
my May 2004 apologies, or repent of lying.
--
Teresita aka Ruby Redinger
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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| User: "Cindy" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
13 Nov 2004 01:06:48 PM |
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"Teresita" <teresita@dataway.com> wrote in message
news:cn5gmc01d9a@drn.newsguy.com...
: In article <cn58o7$1bb@library2.airnews.net>, Cindy says...
: >
: >What a sTrAnGe thing for you to notice, considering the only thing
you
: >have ever defended on this Newsgroup has been Teresita in respect
to
: >her profound disrespect for the lives of anyone who is not
Catholic,
: >and you couldn't notice her telling us even after her very public
: >apologies that it was understandable that Rome wiped out her
: >non-Catholic neighbours and burnt them at the stake.
:
: Cindy, post a link to a google search proving that I said it was
understandable
: that Rome wiped out her non-Catholic neighbors and burnt them at the
stake AFTER
: my May 2004 apologies, or repent of lying.
I don't knowingly lie, that is your practice.
On the 5th you announced you would be leaving usenet on May 24th:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com)
Subject: Re: Q. for Teresita
In article <2g09kaF2vftkU1@uni-berlin.de>, Andrew says...
Hi Terisita! I was afraid you had forsaken arca for the Baptists.
I'm about to let my USENET account expire on May 24. Life will be
very casual
these last few days.
==============
And you wrote this after all your false apologies, on the 23rd right
before you left:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com)
Subject: Re: Alan can only agree with Teresita?
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,
alt.religion.christian.baptist, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.talk.creationism, alt.religion.christian.adventist
Date: 2004-05-23 14:35:08 PST
Do you now understand that the following scripture under the New
Covenant
applies to a Church that goes around persecuting and wiping out her
neighbors?
I do not agree that the following scripture applies to the Roman
Catholic
Church.
Since you tell us it was "Necessary" and " just business" and "merely
carrying out God's command" to burn heretics,and not an Catholic
error;
I apologise for telling you it was necessary and just business and
merely
carrying out God's command to burn heretics.
YOU DID NOT say it was "understandable" YOU SAID "IT WAS NECESSARY"
and referred to it as the "GOOD OLD DAYS".
I apologize for choosing the words "necessary" and "good old days"
rather than
"understandable". <----------------------
~ Cindy
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
30 Mar 2005 01:50:07 PM |
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"Cindy" <cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
news:2vn4rhF2o655pU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Teresita" <teresita@dataway.com> wrote in message
news:cn5gmc01d9a@drn.newsguy.com...
: In article <cn58o7$1bb@library2.airnews.net>, Cindy says...
: >
: >What a sTrAnGe thing for you to notice, considering the only thing you
: >have ever defended on this Newsgroup has been Teresita in respect to
: >her profound disrespect for the lives of anyone who is not Catholic,
: >and you couldn't notice her telling us even after her very public
: >apologies that it was understandable that Rome wiped out her
: >non-Catholic neighbours and burnt them at the stake.
:
: Cindy, post a link to a google search proving that I said it was
understandable
: that Rome wiped out her non-Catholic neighbors and burnt them at the
stake AFTER
: my May 2004 apologies, or repent of lying.
I don't knowingly lie, that is your practice.
I think you mean you are never knowingly wrong, to lie is to state what you
believe untrue, with the INTENT of deception. Now as to lying being
Teresita's practice, one(you) CAN disbelieve any and all 'evidences' that
(you) are wrong, and STILL believe in what (you) had said to be true, EVEN
AFTER being presented "over and over" again 'evidences' that (you) are
wrong.
As we cannot *read minds* there is no point, (except after said liar plainly
admits that he/she lied), that we can *correctly* call someone a liar. The
closest I can come to saying this about someone is to say, "you are wrong,
and appearantly stubbornly so, as to the point of ignoring anything and
everything which proves you to be wrong"
Try that, and leave the mindreading judgments to God
On the 5th you announced you would be leaving usenet on May 24th:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com)
Subject: Re: Q. for Teresita
In article <2g09kaF2vftkU1@uni-berlin.de>, Andrew says...
Hi Terisita! I was afraid you had forsaken arca for the Baptists.
I'm about to let my USENET account expire on May 24. Life will be
very casual
these last few days.
==============
And you wrote this after all your false apologies, on the 23rd right
before you left:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com)
Subject: Re: Alan can only agree with Teresita?
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,
alt.religion.christian.baptist, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.talk.creationism, alt.religion.christian.adventist
Date: 2004-05-23 14:35:08 PST
Do you now understand that the following scripture under the New
Covenant
applies to a Church that goes around persecuting and wiping out her
neighbors?
I do not agree that the following scripture applies to the Roman
Catholic
Church.
Since you tell us it was "Necessary" and " just business" and "merely
carrying out God's command" to burn heretics,and not an Catholic
error;
I apologise for telling you it was necessary and just business and
merely
carrying out God's command to burn heretics.
YOU DID NOT say it was "understandable" YOU SAID "IT WAS NECESSARY"
and referred to it as the "GOOD OLD DAYS".
I apologize for choosing the words "necessary" and "good old days"
rather than
"understandable". <----------------------
~ Cindy
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
31 Mar 2005 03:08:39 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:114m04v6dtrdf22@corp.supernews.com...
"Cindy" <cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
news:2vn4rhF2o655pU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Teresita" <teresita@dataway.com> wrote in message
news:cn5gmc01d9a@drn.newsguy.com...
: In article <cn58o7$1bb@library2.airnews.net>, Cindy says...
: >
: >What a sTrAnGe thing for you to notice, considering the only thing you
: >have ever defended on this Newsgroup has been Teresita in respect to
: >her profound disrespect for the lives of anyone who is not Catholic,
: >and you couldn't notice her telling us even after her very public
: >apologies that it was understandable that Rome wiped out her
: >non-Catholic neighbours and burnt them at the stake.
:
: Cindy, post a link to a google search proving that I said it was
understandable
: that Rome wiped out her non-Catholic neighbors and burnt them at the
stake AFTER
: my May 2004 apologies, or repent of lying.
I don't knowingly lie, that is your practice.
I think you mean you are never knowingly wrong, to lie is to state what
you believe untrue, with the INTENT of deception. Now as to lying being
Teresita's practice, one(you) CAN disbelieve any and all 'evidences' that
(you) are wrong, and STILL believe in what (you) had said to be true, EVEN
AFTER being presented "over and over" again 'evidences' that (you) are
wrong.
As we cannot *read minds* there is no point, (except after said liar
plainly admits that he/she lied), that we can *correctly* call someone a
liar. The closest I can come to saying this about someone is to say, "you
are wrong, and appearantly stubbornly so, as to the point of ignoring
anything and everything which proves you to be wrong"
Try that, and leave the mindreading judgments to God
On the 5th you announced you would be leaving usenet on May 24th:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com)
Subject: Re: Q. for Teresita
In article <2g09kaF2vftkU1@uni-berlin.de>, Andrew says...
Hi Terisita! I was afraid you had forsaken arca for the Baptists.
I'm about to let my USENET account expire on May 24. Life will be
very casual
these last few days.
==============
And you wrote this after all your false apologies, on the 23rd right
before you left:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com)
Subject: Re: Alan can only agree with Teresita?
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,
alt.religion.christian.baptist, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.talk.creationism, alt.religion.christian.adventist
Date: 2004-05-23 14:35:08 PST
Do you now understand that the following scripture under the New
Covenant
applies to a Church that goes around persecuting and wiping out her
neighbors?
I do not agree that the following scripture applies to the Roman
Catholic
Church.
Since you tell us it was "Necessary" and " just business" and "merely
carrying out God's command" to burn heretics,and not an Catholic
error;
I apologise for telling you it was necessary and just business and
merely
carrying out God's command to burn heretics.
YOU DID NOT say it was "understandable" YOU SAID "IT WAS NECESSARY"
and referred to it as the "GOOD OLD DAYS".
I apologize for choosing the words "necessary" and "good old days"
rather than
"understandable". <----------------------
~ Cindy
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01 Apr 2005 12:47:01 PM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:114op3uldt847cd@corp.supernews.com...
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:114m04v6dtrdf22@corp.supernews.com...
"Cindy" <cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
news:2vn4rhF2o655pU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Teresita" <teresita@dataway.com> wrote in message
news:cn5gmc01d9a@drn.newsguy.com...
: In article <cn58o7$1bb@library2.airnews.net>, Cindy says...
: >
: >What a sTrAnGe thing for you to notice, considering the only thing
you
: >have ever defended on this Newsgroup has been Teresita in respect to
: >her profound disrespect for the lives of anyone who is not Catholic,
: >and you couldn't notice her telling us even after her very public
: >apologies that it was understandable that Rome wiped out her
: >non-Catholic neighbours and burnt them at the stake.
:
: Cindy, post a link to a google search proving that I said it was
understandable
: that Rome wiped out her non-Catholic neighbors and burnt them at the
stake AFTER
: my May 2004 apologies, or repent of lying.
I don't knowingly lie, that is your practice.
I think you mean you are never knowingly wrong, to lie is to state what
you believe untrue, with the INTENT of deception.
A lie is the opposite of the truth. It doesn't matter whether you know it
is false, and deliberattely lie or whether you do so ignorantly, it is still
not truth. Teresita is a deceiver and proof of this has been posted many
times, would you like
more evidence?
Now as to lying being
Teresita's practice, one(you) CAN disbelieve any and all 'evidences'
that
(you) are wrong, and STILL believe in what (you) had said to be true,
2.Jesuit, Fig.: A crafty person; an intriguer
---- Webster's 1913 Dictionary
jesuit, one given to subtle casuistry.
-- The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth
Edition. 2000.
2. Jesˇuˇit an offensive term for somebody regarded as crafty or
scheming, especially somebody who uses deliberately ambiguous or
confusing words to deceive others
-- Encarta's online dictionary
Jesuit, [adj] having qualities characteristic of Jesuits or Jesuitism;
"Jesuitical education"
--- Worldnet dictionary
EVEN
AFTER being presented "over and over" again 'evidences' that (you) are
wrong.
What evidence? I see none from you, none from Teresita.
The only evidence I see in this post was the proof Teresita asked for.
Did you happen to notice, in addition to being a deceiver, Teresita believes
it is understandable to wipe out her non-Catholic neighbours?
Do you think it involves judging to determine you are justified in wiping
out those who believe differently then Rome?
Who should you be more critical of? Who should you ignore?
a. someone who lies and justifies murder.
2.someone who points this out as evil.
What did you do here?
As we cannot *read minds* there is no point, (except after said liar
plainly admits that he/she lied), that we can *correctly* call someone a
liar. The closest I can come to saying this about someone is to say,
"you
are wrong, and appearantly stubbornly so, as to the point of ignoring
anything and everything which proves you to be wrong"
Is it mindreading to quote someones own words?
Try that, and leave the mindreading judgments to God
Why is it the majority of self proclaimed Christians come preaching "thou
shalt not judge" and forget to get the huge beam out of their eye first?
In His Grace,
Aletheia
snipped for context:
Cindy:
On the 5th you announced you would be leaving usenet on May 24th:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com):
I'm about to let my USENET account expire on May 24. Life will be
very casual these last few days.
==============
Cindy:
And you wrote this after all your false apologies, on the 23rd right
before you left:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com)
Subject: Re: Alan can only agree with Teresita?
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,
alt.religion.christian.baptist, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.talk.creationism, alt.religion.christian.adventist
Date: 2004-05-23 14:35:08 PST
Cindy:
Do you now understand that the following scripture under the New
Covenant applies to a Church that goes around persecuting and
wiping out her neighbors?
Teresita:
I do not agree that the following scripture applies to the Roman
Catholic Church.
Cindy:
Since you tell us it was "Necessary" and " just business" and "merely
carrying out God's command" to burn heretics,and not an Catholic
error;
Teresita:
I apologize for choosing the words "necessary" and "good old days"
rather than
"understandable". <----------------------
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
07 Apr 2005 08:21:36 PM |
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"Cindy" <Cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
news:FGg3e.16871$DW.12273@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:114op3uldt847cd@corp.supernews.com...
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:114m04v6dtrdf22@corp.supernews.com...
"Cindy" <cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
news:2vn4rhF2o655pU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Teresita" <teresita@dataway.com> wrote in message
news:cn5gmc01d9a@drn.newsguy.com...
: In article <cn58o7$1bb@library2.airnews.net>, Cindy says...
<snip>
I don't knowingly lie, that is your practice.
I think you mean you are never knowingly wrong, to lie is to state what
you believe untrue, with the INTENT of deception.
A lie is the opposite of the truth.
Try falsehood / wrong is the opposit from the truth. BUT if someone believes
the earth is flat, and says so, that person would be wrong, but would not be
lying. Nor were you whenever you may have stated something false, IF you
believed it true, and had no desire to deceive / mislead
It doesn't matter whether you know it is false, and deliberattely lie or
whether you do so ignorantly,
No such thing as an ignorant lie
it is still not truth.
In that I can agree.
Teresita is a deceiver and proof of this has been posted many
times, would you like more evidence?
Unless you have a scientifically proven to be accurate mindreading machine,
you have no such evidence, but rather a list evidences which may prove her
to be wrong.
<snip>
As we cannot *read minds* there is no point, (except after said liar
plainly admits that he/she lied), that we can *correctly* call someone
a
liar. The closest I can come to saying this about someone is to say,
"you
are wrong, and appearantly stubbornly so, as to the point of ignoring
anything and everything which proves you to be wrong"
Is it mindreading to quote someones own words?
Nope, it isn't.
Try that, and leave the mindreading judgments to God
Why is it the majority of self proclaimed Christians come preaching "thou
shalt not judge" and forget to get the huge beam out of their eye first?
Look it the mirror.
In His Grace,
Aletheia
<snippers>
Glenn (Christian Mystic)
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| User: "Cindy" |
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05 Apr 2005 01:33:37 PM |
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Where is the accountability? Where are the answers?
"Cindy" <Cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
news:FGg3e.16871$DW.12273@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:114op3uldt847cd@corp.supernews.com...
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:114m04v6dtrdf22@corp.supernews.com...
"Cindy" <cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
news:2vn4rhF2o655pU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Teresita" <teresita@dataway.com> wrote in message
news:cn5gmc01d9a@drn.newsguy.com...
: In article <cn58o7$1bb@library2.airnews.net>, Cindy says...
: >
: >What a sTrAnGe thing for you to notice, considering the only thing
you
: >have ever defended on this Newsgroup has been Teresita in respect
to
: >her profound disrespect for the lives of anyone who is not
Catholic,
: >and you couldn't notice her telling us even after her very public
: >apologies that it was understandable that Rome wiped out her
: >non-Catholic neighbours and burnt them at the stake.
:
: Cindy, post a link to a google search proving that I said it was
understandable
: that Rome wiped out her non-Catholic neighbors and burnt them at
the
stake AFTER
: my May 2004 apologies, or repent of lying.
I don't knowingly lie, that is your practice.
I think you mean you are never knowingly wrong, to lie is to state
what
you believe untrue, with the INTENT of deception.
A lie is the opposite of the truth. It doesn't matter whether you know it
is false, and deliberattely lie or whether you do so ignorantly, it is
still
not truth. Teresita is a deceiver and proof of this has been posted many
times, would you like
more evidence?
Now as to lying being
Teresita's practice, one(you) CAN disbelieve any and all 'evidences'
that
(you) are wrong, and STILL believe in what (you) had said to be true,
2.Jesuit, Fig.: A crafty person; an intriguer
---- Webster's 1913 Dictionary
jesuit, one given to subtle casuistry.
-- The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth
Edition. 2000.
2. Jesˇuˇit an offensive term for somebody regarded as crafty or
scheming, especially somebody who uses deliberately ambiguous or
confusing words to deceive others
-- Encarta's online dictionary
Jesuit, [adj] having qualities characteristic of Jesuits or Jesuitism;
"Jesuitical education"
--- Worldnet dictionary
EVEN
AFTER being presented "over and over" again 'evidences' that (you) are
wrong.
What evidence? I see none from you, none from Teresita.
The only evidence I see in this post was the proof Teresita asked for.
Did you happen to notice, in addition to being a deceiver, Teresita
believes
it is understandable to wipe out her non-Catholic neighbours?
Do you think it involves judging to determine you are justified in wiping
out those who believe differently then Rome?
Who should you be more critical of? Who should you ignore?
a. someone who lies and justifies murder.
2.someone who points this out as evil.
What did you do here?
As we cannot *read minds* there is no point, (except after said liar
plainly admits that he/she lied), that we can *correctly* call someone
a
liar. The closest I can come to saying this about someone is to say,
"you
are wrong, and appearantly stubbornly so, as to the point of ignoring
anything and everything which proves you to be wrong"
Is it mindreading to quote someones own words?
Try that, and leave the mindreading judgments to God
Why is it the majority of self proclaimed Christians come preaching "thou
shalt not judge" and forget to get the huge beam out of their eye first?
In His Grace,
Aletheia
snipped for context:
Cindy:
On the 5th you announced you would be leaving usenet on May 24th:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com):
I'm about to let my USENET account expire on May 24. Life will be
very casual these last few days.
==============
Cindy:
And you wrote this after all your false apologies, on the 23rd right
before you left:
From: Teresita (teresita@newsguy.com)
Subject: Re: Alan can only agree with Teresita?
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,
alt.religion.christian.baptist, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.talk.creationism, alt.religion.christian.adventist
Date: 2004-05-23 14:35:08 PST
Cindy:
Do you now understand that the following scripture under the New
Covenant applies to a Church that goes around persecuting and
wiping out her neighbors?
Teresita:
I do not agree that the following scripture applies to the Roman
Catholic Church.
Cindy:
Since you tell us it was "Necessary" and " just business" and "merely
carrying out God's command" to burn heretics,and not an Catholic
error;
Teresita:
I apologize for choosing the words "necessary" and "good old days"
rather than
"understandable". <----------------------
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| User: "alanm" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
13 Nov 2004 08:54:06 AM |
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"alanm" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:HAold.35081$K7.1338@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Cindy" <cynthia@stopthespamlocalline.com> wrote in message
news:2vk4dfF2mvsprU1@uni-berlin.de...
"alanm" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:Op4ld.33781$K7.18588@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:
: "Cindy" <truth@nospam.com> wrote in message
: news:cn2ec5$v7o@library2.airnews.net...
: >
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: I have a conspiracy theory for you Cindy:
:
: Do you think Der Krappalot was abducted by numerology aliens ?
:
: He might have known too much.
:
: LOL !
:
Shame on you, you are like a veritable vessel of wrath.
What's wrong, missing a punching bag?
Let me summarise. When Der Krappalot wishes people were dead that's OK
with
you and he's "Crying out to God". When I make a joke about Der Krappalot
I'm
a "vessel of wrath". What a bizarre way you have of balancing issues. I
tend to agree with Lamarr. You do come across as a whacko in some
respects.
What is your purpose on this Newsgroup? Why are you here?
What are you here Cindy ? To push your whacko theories ?
I have another conspiracy theory for you: Do you think Susan Williams has
been abducted by demonology aliens ?
Oh well. That possibility was too good to be true.
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| User: "Dave Peachy" |
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| Title: Re: The 1000 yrs and beyond |
12 Nov 2004 12:01:09 PM |
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"Cindy" <truth@nospam.com> wrote in news:cn2ec5
$v7o@library2.airnews.net:
You have obviously put a lot of time and effort into your thoughts. Let
me share a couple more ideas you may want to incorporate into your
thinking.
Be very careful with the use of numbers in Revelations. Taking numbers
literally in apocalyptic liturature is to understand them symbolicly.
Thus the "seven Spirits of God" does not mean that there are seven holy
spirits but that the Spirit of God is seven-fold perfect. Likewise, the
thousand years probably does not correspond with 1000 calander years but
to a very long (10 x 10 x 10) period of time. The only other references
to a thousand years in Scripture outside of Revelation 20 are in Psalm
90:4 and 2Peter 3:8. To understand a thousand years as a thousand
calander years is interpreting the Scriptures literalisticly not
literally.
As for Satan's binding for a thousand years, please carefully consider
the context. The manner of Satan's binding is clearly spelled out-- he
can no longer deceive the nations. I would suggest that that is exactly
what we have experienced for the last 2000 years. Before Christ came
and bound the strong man, the knowledge of the True God was for the most
part limited to the tiny nation of Israel. There were, of course,
exceptions, but one could not find other nations that embraced the God
of Israel. Since the Cross we find that the truth of God has spread
throughout the world. Certainly not every one has believed but the
gates of hell have not been able to stand up against the Gospel witness
like they did before the Cross.
It is very difficult to not impose our presuppossitions upon the
Scriptures. We absolutely must let the Scriptures interpret themselves
and not try to fit them to our own thoughts. In Matthew 24:37ff a
carefull reading of the passage reveals that the ones who were "left
behind" were the blessed ones of God and the ones who were taken away
received the judgment of God. This parable is the source for the title
to the Left Behind books and films, but they, to my way of thinking,
have got it all backwards.
The first century Jews were convinced that the Christ (Messiah) would be
a political king who would restore the fortunes of the nation of Israel.
They were wrong and crucified the Messiah because He threated their
conception of the Kingdom of God. I pray that modern Christians will
not make the same mistake by rejecting the Messiah as given in the
Scriptures for some political savior of man's invention.
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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13 Nov 2004 10:37:13 PM |
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"And the earth was without form, and
void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep." The word "deep"
here is the Greek word "abussos" which is translated as "bottomless
pit"
It BECAME void and without form in the story of Genesis, because the last earth
age became evil and God destroyed it.
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| User: "PharLap" |
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14 Nov 2004 06:03:39 PM |
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In article <cn2d9b$cjf@library2.airnews.net>, "Cindy" <truth@nospam.com> wrote:
Where will Christ take those redeemed ones who meet Him in the clouds?
He won't have to for some of you
Your heads are already there!
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